Well, at least one other person has a qualm with the anti-trust case (laissez faire capitalism ALL THE WAY), but that's offtopic.
The truth is M$ "didn't" pay anyone to say anything, because that would probably be illegal. And if you were the one of the palms who got greased (ie the person quoted in the parent post), you're not gonna rat out the person who paid you! Duh.
WOW that was an amazingly slanted article. Mentioning an anti-impeachment website but none of the hundreds of pro-impeachment domains? Passing one of history's greatest presidents, Ronald Reagan as a person who never did "understand the details of politics or government"? Riiiiiiiiite.
He is right though, politicians are notoriously old fasioned, and it'll be a long time before they jump on the net bandwagon. Besides, the internet voting hype thing would mean the death of the electoral congress, and we couldn't have that now could we??
Is that possible? I'm an idiot when it comes to the market, but what if they just decided to buy 75% of Red Hat's stock or something? Wouldn't that give them control of the publicly traded company?
You know, if the political and ethical rammifications of implementing an american version of this didn't make me want to cry, then this would be a really good idea! The only problem is, you can change the game of politics however you want, but the fact remains that it is just that: a game. Its unfortunate, but hey, it American.
Sounds great, but the problem is this: money makes the world go round. If the public (we) had their way, there would be no advertisements, so anything on the net that screams This is an AD will just be filtered out by our browsers and homemade proxy servers and the like (some people already do this with doubleclick stuff). And if the suits had their way, everything would be an add, and the net would just be a huge collection of buzzing neon signs saying "Eat at Joe's."
Advertisements are a nessecary evil, and if they bog down page access time enough, people will just stop hitting the page. And with less hits come less ads. It will balance in the end.
When did java become a failure? Its in every web page, ported to every system, taught in almost every college, and is considered the best web programming language out there? Not 5 years ago, there was no such thing as java, and now it is (at least in my college) the only language used to teach OO stuff, and it has been that way for about 3 years. I don't think that java has "died," and therefore don't think that linux will suffer that same fate. -davek
This is a funny thing, when you try to represent the human brain with NAND gates. Because no two people remember things in the same way. For example, when I want to remember a math equasion, I picture the page in the book that the equasion is on. That doesn't sound computer like. Its some wierd stuff. I still can't imagine what would happen if we actually used that 80% of the brain that we supposedly don't. -davek
One thing is for certain: college does not teach you anything that you couldn't learn by yourself (when it comes to technology). In the science fields you've got a bunch of PhD's talking down to you, but in the tech fields you're being taught by a bunch of guys who started out as college drop outs themselves. The only thing that college gives you is the PROOF that you know what you know. And as the industry matures and there are more and more 14-year-old haxors telling software companies that they're the next Steve Jobs, the fact that I have a piece of paper to prove it will get me that job over the other guy. -davek
aren't these the people who don't allow third party vendors to clone their machines? Did I miss when they started publishing the secritive hardware specs for the macintrash? And now they're trying to entice open-source people into doing free development because they are releasing 1% of the source code? I don't hate macs, but is this really going to have any effect? -davek
It's an invasion of privacy, plain and simple. It doesn't matter whether I'm encrypting or compressing 48 megs of plans to assasinate the President or goat porn, if I don't want you to see it, you should be able to make me. Oh, and becuase I know that big bro is watching, here are some more flag words for the government spiders to catch: bomb, terrorist, assasination, spy, encryption, communist, socialist, facist, nazi, etc..etc..etc
I'm glad that something has come out to quell the now abundant linux fires. If the hype about this "New OS" gets to big, it'll just be another flash-in-the-pan and no one will even care in 6 months. So keep the criticism coming! The numbers and facts will prove them all wrong. Lower total cost of ownership? Homosaywhat? $500 OS vs. FREE? Charge up the ass technical support vs. volumes of free resources on the web? What a blowhard. -davek
remember this: you can make money from FREE software! You can download redhat free over the net, but they still sell many many copies of the software in that little red white and blue box. Also, the entire idea behind free software is to give the software away, then charge for the hundreds of other things that go along with it (tech support, books, seminars, etc). Of course, this only works with software designed for the public, while it could be adapted for designed for a specific customer or business. Just becuase a business supports free software doesn't mean that they have to live in poverty. It can make money. -davek
Yes, but remember that linux has a user base that has doubled every year, and this is without any sort of mass marketing and publicity (until now). "Suits" are there to sell an inferior product at a high price to an uneducated buyer. Linux is a product that sells itself. -davek
Anyone see the bit that CNBC did on the Linux conference for Business Center yesterday? That's the cable station's biggest prime time business news show, it is sure to attract some investers. It was (yet another) fluf piece, but it was exposure on something that more people watch than CNN (IMO).
Just another example of the maturing of an industry. Just like young said, "You wouldn't buy a car if you weren't allowed to open the hood." Free software (not free beer) will take over the world, but I don't think that young should be credited with too much. -davek use slackware!!!
Micro is going to be dethroned, and while it probably won't die out completly, it will fade from its behemouth status sometime in the future. That will require another OS to take the place of windoze. Whether it is linux or something else remains to be seen, but there is much that can be said about the open-source movement and the tremendous development base that Linux has. Thus guy sounds like his greed is enough to keep as part of "The Machine." -davek
I never really understood why the government was so worried about encryption to begin with. I'm sure there is a really good reason that I'm not seeing (yea right), but I always thought that freedom of speech covered everything, even if it was in 1's and 0's. -davek
yet another linux piece that points out the fact that Linux is only for the computer-31337, thus ensuring that the world will be in the throws of microsloth for the rest of eternity. The only thing the CNN piece did was attach the OS name 'Linux' to one distribution: Red Hat. No mention of GNU or the GPL, no mention of the billions of software packages for the OS. Eh, but it's exposure. I guess you can't complain.
Oh, and just on a side note, I hope that micro wins it's antitrust case. I have actual reasons for this, but mostly its becuase I want the to feel the pain when the world discovers that Linux can actually be a user-friendly OS. -davek
Linux is my main development platform at work, and it's an operating system that the software doesn't even officially support. Any company that really wants to be free of the grip of microsloth, all the programs needed are out there.
gotta agree. What if the state of Virginia decides to define spam to include any email that contains the words "bomb" or "terrorist." This sounds like a good idea, but I believe this is the responsibility of the ISP's, not of the government. Scarry stuff. -davek homepage
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The truth is M$ "didn't" pay anyone to say anything, because that would probably be illegal. And if you were the one of the palms who got greased (ie the person quoted in the parent post), you're not gonna rat out the person who paid you! Duh.
-davek
He is right though, politicians are notoriously old fasioned, and it'll be a long time before they jump on the net bandwagon. Besides, the internet voting hype thing would mean the death of the electoral congress, and we couldn't have that now could we??
-davek
Is that possible? I'm an idiot when it comes to the market,
but what if they just decided to buy 75% of Red Hat's stock or something?
Wouldn't that give them control of the publicly traded company?
-davek
Advertisements are a nessecary evil, and if they bog down page access time enough, people will just stop hitting the page. And with less hits come less ads. It will balance in the end.
-davek
When did java become a failure? Its in every web page, ported to every system, taught in almost every college, and is considered the best web programming language out there? Not 5 years ago, there was no such thing as java, and now it is (at least in my college) the only language used to teach OO stuff, and it has been that way for about 3 years.
I don't think that java has "died," and therefore don't think that linux will suffer that same fate.
-davek
This is a funny thing, when you try to represent the human brain with NAND gates. Because no two people remember things in the same way. For example, when I want to remember a math equasion, I picture the page in the book that the equasion is on. That doesn't sound computer like. Its some wierd stuff. I still can't imagine what would happen if we actually used that 80% of the brain that we supposedly don't.
-davek
no plan 9. Try inferno, a much better OS.
-davek
One thing is for certain: college does not teach you anything that you couldn't learn by yourself (when it comes to technology). In the science fields you've got a bunch of PhD's talking down to you, but in the tech fields you're being taught by a bunch of guys who started out as college drop outs themselves. The only thing that college gives you is the PROOF that you know what you know. And as the industry matures and there are more and more 14-year-old haxors telling software companies that they're the next Steve Jobs, the fact that I have a piece of paper to prove it will get me that job over the other guy.
-davek
I'm waiting for the sleak, black, futuristic look of the new VT340! Yippie!
-davek
aren't these the people who don't allow third party vendors to clone their machines? Did I miss when they started publishing the secritive hardware specs for the macintrash? And now they're trying to entice open-source people into doing free development because they are releasing 1% of the source code? I don't hate macs, but is this really going to have any effect?
-davek
It's an invasion of privacy, plain and simple. It doesn't matter whether I'm encrypting or compressing 48 megs of plans to assasinate the President or goat porn, if I don't want you to see it, you should be able to make me.
Oh, and becuase I know that big bro is watching, here are some more flag words for the government spiders to catch:
bomb, terrorist, assasination, spy, encryption, communist, socialist, facist, nazi, etc..etc..etc
-davek
Alright, perhaps now I can convince my boss to allow us to support linux. Ah who am I kidding, he's a suit.
-davek
I'm glad that something has come out to quell the now abundant linux fires. If the hype about this "New OS" gets to big, it'll just be another flash-in-the-pan and no one will even care in 6 months. So keep the criticism coming! The numbers and facts will prove them all wrong. Lower total cost of ownership? Homosaywhat? $500 OS vs. FREE? Charge up the ass technical support vs. volumes of free resources on the web? What a blowhard.
-davek
remember this: you can make money from FREE software! You can download redhat free over the net, but they still sell many many copies of the software in that little red white and blue box. Also, the entire idea behind free software is to give the software away, then charge for the hundreds of other things that go along with it (tech support, books, seminars, etc). Of course, this only works with software designed for the public, while it could be adapted for designed for a specific customer or business.
Just becuase a business supports free software doesn't mean that they have to live in poverty. It can make money.
-davek
Yes, but remember that linux has a user base that has doubled every year, and this is without any sort of mass marketing and publicity (until now). "Suits" are there to sell an inferior product at a high price to an uneducated buyer. Linux is a product that sells itself.
-davek
this new site just looks like a re-slashdot with a suckier color scheme. They even ripped the poll? I know they wanted a portal, but come on!
-davek
Anyone see the bit that CNBC did on the Linux conference for Business Center yesterday? That's the cable station's biggest prime time business news show, it is sure to attract some investers. It was (yet another) fluf piece, but it was exposure on something that more people watch than CNN (IMO).
-davek
Just another example of the maturing of an industry. Just like young said, "You wouldn't buy a car if you weren't allowed to open the hood." Free software (not free beer) will take over the world, but I don't think that young should be credited with too much.
-davek
use slackware!!!
you do realize that the blue sky rangers programmed vectron to be unbeatable, right? Intelivision RULES!!! classicgaming
blue sky rangers
-davek
Micro is going to be dethroned, and while it probably won't die out completly, it will fade from its behemouth status sometime in the future. That will require another OS to take the place of windoze. Whether it is linux or something else remains to be seen, but there is much that can be said about the open-source movement and the tremendous development base that Linux has. Thus guy sounds like his greed is enough to keep as part of "The Machine."
-davek
I never really understood why the government was so worried about encryption to begin with. I'm sure there is a really good reason that I'm not seeing (yea right), but I always thought that freedom of speech covered everything, even if it was in 1's and 0's.
-davek
yet another linux piece that points out the fact that Linux is only for the computer-31337, thus ensuring that the world will be in the throws of microsloth for the rest of eternity. The only thing the CNN piece did was attach the OS name 'Linux' to one distribution: Red Hat. No mention of GNU or the GPL, no mention of the billions of software packages for the OS. Eh, but it's exposure. I guess you can't complain.
Oh, and just on a side note, I hope that micro wins it's antitrust case. I have actual reasons for this, but mostly its becuase I want the to feel the pain when the world discovers that Linux can actually be a user-friendly OS.
-davek
-davek
gotta agree. What if the state of Virginia decides to define spam to include any email that contains the words "bomb" or "terrorist." This sounds like a good idea, but I believe this is the responsibility of the ISP's, not of the government. Scarry stuff.
-davek
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