Slashdot Mirror
Redhat's New Web Site
Jonathan Ocab wrote
in to tell us that Red Hat
has redone their site. You'll notice a summary of both
Freshmeat and Slashdot stories on the page, linkage to
User Friendly, as well as lots
of javascript mouseovers to consume bandwidth.
The site hasn't changed!
you guys have officially hit the big time. congrats!
Check out here
I think the site looks cool. Gives me something to look at while i'm at work. I love news snaggin sites.
Cya
Hm. I don't know what to say... what was wrong with their old website? The one with information that was unique to Red Hat? Sigh.
That's horrid. If I wanted to read slashdot/freshmeat headlines, I'd just go to slashdot. I don't understand what Redhat's trying to accomplish---are they just trying to make redhat.com a new Linux portal since they couldn't buy linux.com?
--A satisfied Redhat customer
I'll stick with /. & FreshMeat
I have to apologize to /.
/. and so I hit "reload" a lot. I was just amazed that of all the people reading the site I was able to get the first comment
I'm the original first poster. I only did it two or three times, but my meme seems to have infected the world. And it was never this stupid crap like "who serves the best chinese food" or "does it run gnulix". I'm just addicted to
Sorry.
What they really need to do is 10x the bandwidth of their ftp site so it's possible to get in at anything but 2:00am. Even mirrors are usually days or weeks behind.
like christianity, it's a good idea gone bad
we appreciate your appyloggy though
Wow they are posting slashdot stuff, even the polls and no link to slashdot, even the /. logo does not link back here...
Gee, I think I'll just make a site that collects stuff from other sites and redisplays it. Cool!! Then hopefully I'll get to be cool through some osmosic affect. Hell, since I'm that cool I can make up words like "osmosic".
Redhat truely entered a new era of lameness with this site.
Go Slackware!
Looks like they're trying too hard to be a Linux-specific Yahoo or Netcenter. Maybe we should call it "RedCenter" or "YaHat". Pretty soon there'll be a "My RedHat" button on your browser.
Their search is "powered by google". Cool!!!
Apologies to
I don't know what to think about Slashdot OEM'ing their headlines. And I don't think RedHat wants people exiting their portal site to
Man, you guys are such a bunch of whiny crybaby wankers. They just changed a few things on their website and you (moslty) all take it as an opportunity to slam them. Geez, grow the hell up. It's THEIR website if you don't like it stay the hell away.
Overly critical people tend to be the ones who have no clue anyway. I guess that says a lot about you. Bitching like a bunch of old ladies.
Haha probably. My guess is this is what they planned to do with linux.com, and they didn't want to throw out their plan. Sucks to them.
It was ME who first started the "first post" phenom!
No offence, but that's the worst spelling of 'apology' I've ever seen :P
Isn't this just going to make the hitrate
:)
decline since folks don't have to come here
anymore? Or do more people come here through
the portal? Anyway, a big ho hum to the
folks already coming here but what do they
matter? They are already enlightenned.
One more reason to run that spell checker
and get a proofer.
as well as lots of javascript mouseovers to consume bandwidth.
that's why i use lynx! at least the new site is comprehensible under lynx.
i'm tired of portals. what ever happened to sites that just present information relevant to what the site is about. i kinda miss the good 'ol days of mosaic 1.0.
Check out their knowledge base page... Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet? I used to be able to find the redhat mailing lists, to get helpful troubleshooting info... I'm still looking...
Red Hat, if you want to launch a portal get a new website like www.redhat-portal.com, don't prostitute your company and product website for this shit.
Why don't they just call it slashhat, or reddot?
Are there even any links to info about redhat on that page? Please change the domain name to linuxportal.com.
look at the linux index for more information about stuff along with the application index
he's drunk with power and has redone "his" (intel-funded) site to be really "cool".
have you checked around the revamped site? it is just unreal.
They do to!!! If you would use your little intuitive linux mind, you might find it...
sigh. these people should hire professionals.
The same thing that happened to Netscape is happening to Red Hat. Red Hat is dying and is trying to salvage itself by fscking with portal shite.
You're 100% correct. Redhat served its purpose, a site for RedHat linux, and it served it well. Now, we have to sift through a bunch of stuff we probably already read about (i read /. and freshmeat way before i'd ever hit redhat.com). That, and at 800x600, it's too big - which is a serious no-no.
Add another $0.02 CDN..
Looks like they made it in Micro$oft Publisher....
I think I know what the next poll subject should be:
The new RedHat linux portal site:
a. is OK
b. sucks
c. is one big rip-off
Let's see if they keep the slashdot poll on their web site now.
All the more reason NOT to be posting slashdot polls prominently on your front page. I think that is what most people are trying to say here. Make this a site about RedHat. Cater to the suits and consumers if you want to. But don't make this another lame portal site and incorporate stuff that the suits or joe websurfer ain't gonna understand in the first place.
I thought BoredAtWork was the first moron^H^H^Hperson to start this first post craze?
By the way, whatever happened 'ol Bored anyway?
When the new Freshmeat site was launched, you all bitched until scoop took it down. Why not use this again and bitch at webmaster@redhat.com?
I was so pissed when they got rid of their ftp search. I used to be able to grab any piece of software within 10 seconds by going http://www.redhat.com/search and typing a partial name.
At least now they brought back some of that by having the results of rpm2html in their google search. I was really getting tired of grabbing 00-find.Linux.gz off metalab everyday.
It's the same old site + yellow + links to
./ and freshmeat. I still can't find answers
to how to install GNOME 1.0 correctly
and how to install audio. It's still frustrating.
The portal nonsense aside, they should probably concentrate on fixing the broken links.
(ie. clicking on their new Powered by RedHat button, can't find their legal_statement.html ?!)
Whatever happened to "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"? Woof.
actually, the odds are that people going to the
redhat site are first timers looking for info
about linux. and what will they see? not what
they are looking for, that's for sure...
I've been using RH since 3.0.3, and I almost
never visit the RH site, except to download
errata. they're targeting the wrong audience...
Go figure ;-)
um, the first link says "Red Hat Software". That will take you to the corp page. Anyway, its's kind of neat. It shows newbies that there is a whole Linux community out there not just a few distros.
:P
Oh, and it's a lot better than M$'s page
RH is clueless. I hope Corel does better...
What a terrible colour scheme... it's hard on
my eyes. I hope RedHat changes this because I
don't want to go back to that site again....
Please RedHat change the colours!
So what? Does it have your name on it? What the f do you care? Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you boneheads sure waste a lot of time on trivial shit.
look under the knowledgebase and the faq-o-matic
c ache/300.html
http://www1.portal.redhat.com/knowledgebase/kb/
Freshmeat is maintained by a volunteer.
Redhat has has problems with broken links for as long as I can remember. Try accessing the 'Package Listing' link on the RH 5.2 page - which is now even HARDER to find.
They took a marginal web site, and fucked it beyond usability. Maybe they should hire a few HTML people to run the website. Bells and whistles and bullshit do not make a good website.
Piling tons of graphics and other crap on top of a small amount of meaningful data just pisses people off. Get a fucking clue, Red Hat. Don't let the marketing suits destroy you - because that is where you are headed.
Annoyed Anon. Coward
to mirror the poll is really lame
& the rest sucks too
misanthrop
must be running nt.
samedi@disinfo.nospam.net
If redhat's webmaster gets as much negative email as is posted here, they'll probably change it. I've sent in my comments. I got the creeps when I first saw it this morning - another portal site - this is supposed to be the representation of Linux to the corporate world by the biggest distributor of Linux in the US? Yikes! Let's hope they actually _read_ slashdot and get the message.
Checkout searchlinux.com. They have the redhat mailing lists and linux newsgroups in a searchable database sort of like dejanews. Works pretty well for me..
No. Whiny, flaming advokids on /. give all of Linux a bad name.
jaaaa, hei allle fixed skrivenda....nej!!!
Det virka i_k_a - eheh med netscape er det inte `fixed'.
o.
Oh, I forgot - this is slashdot... Stories that don't portray RH in a positive light are not allowed by the editors...
/. does not need to portray any company in a negative light if they don't want to. This in NOT a news site! /. is strictly dedicated to what Rob Malda and croonies thinks is kewl. I don't blame /. for not biting the hand that feeds them. Yeah, it's weak and lame that they don't tell it like it is anymore, but who can blame them for caving in for the $..
If you want unbiased Linux news reporting, go to linuxtoday.
LOL
I don't think RH put much thought about what they were linking into their main index page ;-)
;-)
It is not good having a link about how bad your website is right off the main page
Thanks for the clarification. Sorry, I hope I haven't tarnished you name now by implying that you started the whole first post craze. But I knew you were connected to it somehow ;-)
Quit bitching, your lame asses are still sitting here.
Morons...
Humm I got a hole bunch of bandwidth on my side... yet I get a time out on getting info from this new site...
sure wish I could see what all the hoopla is about... but who cares I use slackware anyway...
Talk about lame.
Cheesy colors, a krillion ads, a total
mess with no useful information.
Duh.
Slackware forever!
I went to http://199.183.24.134/ and clicked on
"Red Hat Software" (top left under the Red Hat!)
and got http://199.183.24.134/corp/index.html
which is nearly identical to the old site
(still at http://199.183.24.253/), Geez people,
quit whining. Neophytes will find it useful and
the stuff you want is still there...
Go to the new site at http://199.183.24.134/ (for those whose DNS info isn't up-to-date.) If you click on "Red Hat Software" (top left under the Red Hat!) you should get http://199.183.24.134/corp/index.html which is nearly identical to the old site which is still at http://199.183.24.253/...
I have to agree with the other 99% percent of the people. This new site bites. It's just plain weak in it's concept. I like RedHat, and I use it as I type this, but they took all the class out of the site. It used to be classy, now it's full of crap. The Linux Application link is full of commercial links. What the hell happened to GNU?!
That color scheme is just sick. It reminds me of this "hot dog color scheme" under windows that I saw once.
I don't know who redhat thinks they're targeting with this site. When I go (or more accurately, went) to www.redhat.com, it was to look for information about redhat -- info on a new release, updates, etc. That's what one expects from the site name. If they really had to make a portal, and god only knows why they felt that they did, they could at least put it at a different site name. I mean, I know they didn't get the www.linux.com address, but really...
Now I have to remember to type
http://www.redhat.com/corp/index.html
all the time instead of just the shorter memorable name. Bleh.
I hope that the people at redhat are listening and take this nonsense down, or move it somewhere else where it belongs.
All the people that are ratting on Redhat for what they did with it's site should look back on Netscape. I remember when you actually would go to netscape.com and get a real company site not that portal shit. The design is great the portal idea, eh.. It's okay.
You're a dork.
Support has always been along the top bar.
Guess where it still is?
That's the worst spelling of 'offense' I have ever seen. Irony is ironic.
They changed to this "new" look ages ago! Or am I just loosing my mind?
Snoop
OK, so now Rob has sold his soul. Please. It's totally unnecessary to single out Rob for a diss like that just because you don't like the presentation of Slashdot headlines on redhat.com.
This kind of go-for-the-throat criticism discredits Slashdot far more than any of your issues with the Red Hat page.
Actually javascript doesn't comsume bandwith. Cause that script is running on YOUR machine not on that server. So javascript is so called "bandwith" friendly. ( Yes it can comsume bandwith if you put 200kb gif animation on that script but that's not javascripts fault )
arse
And btw, I'm not the one who started first post junk. I just always seemed to sit down in the morning just as Rob posted stuff, and my comments were usually in the top 5 or so. Somebody(s?) noticed I got like 3 in a row one day, and decided to just hit reload constantly, just to get their name up first the next time. Seemed kinda dumb but harmless then, but now that every AC and his inbred cousing do it too, it really sucks...
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Just lurking, thanks!
What's a morperson? ;-)
Thanks. For a few minutes there I was a bit confused. Now I get it...
..it's pretty hideous. I can't design sites to save my life, but that's why I don't attempt to.
1. Red Hat should present unique Red Hat information prominently
/., freshmeat, E-mail, Linux related stock quotes, apps that you're interested in, upcoming Linux events in your area.
2. Ripping headlines from other sources is tacky. A sidebar maybe, but not the whole site.
3. The color scheme bites.
What would be nice is a Linux portal (but not on www.redhat.com) that would let you customize things you want to see -
Click on redhat.com's poll results - check which server it's going to.
Red Hat's not stealing anything - they've obviously come to some arrangement with Rob and co.
Syndicated content is going to be one of the next big things. Go Rob! (and co!)
...j
Aacck!
Hmm, it seems to be slashdotted.
However, a traceroute (www.redhat.com and redhat.com have the same results) brings up an interesting question...the trace gets all the way to router.redhat.com [199.183.24.225], which reports "Destination net unreachable." That means that something's getting through to RedHat, but not to the www server. My question is, what causes something like this? Is the router purposely dropping packets (and replying that the destination is unreachable) due to too much traffic, or is this the router's way of saying that its request to www.redhat.com timed out?
10 PRINT CHR$(205.5+RND(1)); : GOTO 10
Ok, a bit more info and to clarify my question - both router.redhat.com (which has very low ping times) and www.redhat.com (which times out) are on the same class C subnet, so apparently the bandwidth to the network is there. If it's not a bandwidth problem, what is the problem? Is the box down or overloaded? If Slashdot can handle a ton of visitors per day on one box, I don't see why RedHat can't handle a certain percentage of the Slashdot visitors clicking over to their site.
10 PRINT CHR$(205.5+RND(1)); : GOTO 10
Are all the applications listed proprietary? On the word processor page, there was no mention of Lyx. On the scientific page, there was no mention of gnuplot. Etc.
Why are only closed-source, binary-only, commercial applications listed in the application index? Even when better free alternatives exist, they are not listed. That kind of shows some bias, eh?
It seems redundant to have a listing of (older) Slashdot stories on the RedHat site... odds are, people looking at RedHat's site probably already read slashdot, anyway. Having the poll linking from there doesn't make much sense, either.
Frankly, I think their site looked better yesterday - streamlined, classy, and to the point. It looks trashy now.
Just my $0.02 (CDN)
"I'd like to make a promise and I'd like to make a vow, that when I've got something to say, sir, I'm gonna say it now
I thought that too, they are supplying /. content
but noone is seeing the banner ads that Rob's
supporters are paying for.
The difference between Canada and the USA is that in Canada healthcare is a right and gun ownership is a privilege.
TedC
Don't you think that redhat.com should show you the redhat news first? If I want news from slashdot, I'll go to slashdot. If I want to find out something about Red Hat, I don't want to wade through other site's news to find it.
Also, what's the deal with the slashdot links? Are they trying to insulate people from the "evil" comments threads? The page you get taken to when you click on a slashdot headline is like a neutered version of our beloved page. There is no way to get from the redhat page to the original story.
Rob, I hope you got some money out of this deal, because you've really sold your soul.
Rob has to be involved. They don't even have LINK to slashdot!!! All the links that look like they should be external just point to the redhat site. What a travesty.
They don't even bother to put a notice up that says "This stuff belongs to Slashdot," and the same goes for Freshmeat junk. If someone were to check out that site, they'd see the articles or the polls and think it was Red Hat's deal, not someone else's work. The more time that passes the more irritated I become with RH. Praise Bob for Stampede.
Looks stupid. We don't need more headline snagging Websites. Tired.
The new look sucks!
Red Hat are so un-original they can't even come up with their own polls!
I didn't even get to look at the site before it went down, but I was doing a traceroute, and saw this as the last hop:
www2.portal.redhat.com
AHHHHHHHHHHH!
...Slashdot stories like that? I mean, on top of IT is open-content, but /. is not. Maybe they have some sort of licensing agreement with Rob? .
It's not like most of the headline grabbers, they really are reproducing the entire story (minus the comments of course.)
So what's the deal? Same with freshmeat apparently
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The real Paul Vallee is slashdot userid 2192, and, what do you mean it's not cool to point out your low userid?
Wow! It sucks just as much as other portal sites. They need to keep in mind that people go to redhat.com to find out about RedHat products and services. Details of the CDs and the training and support services need to be prominently displayed on the front page. If people want news, they'll go to slashdot, freshmeat or elsewhere, not RedHat. I've got no objection to the summaries being there, but they shouldn't be the main focus of the site.
Oh, and the garish colours suck, too. Still, with Gnome 1.0 and kernel 2.2, RedHat 6.0 should be pretty good when it's released.
"The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike." -- Delos B. McKown
Normally yes. But keep in mind, Redhat isnt dieing out like Netscape was/is, it is THRIVING... This isn't some attempt to save itself.. it is THE number one distro and has more outside support than anyone else.. it has to be going on fine with its financial problems.
does this new site not look more like a box of marlboro cigarettes than the old site???
Marques Johansson
I think the portal site is a good idea, and feel that a link to Slashdot, Freshmeat, and Userfriendly belong on the page, or belong on a page marked 'Linux community' or somesuch. I also liked the link to the Google Linux search engine. RedHat has some good ideas here, and just need to get it organized in a better manner.
- Sam Trenholme
The secret to enjoying Slashdot is to realize that it should not be taken too seriously.
It was a nice thought. For people new here this is what Redhat.com used to look like.
- Sam Trenholme
The secret to enjoying Slashdot is to realize that it should not be taken too seriously.
i always tell my clients to look at redhat.com if they want the lowdown on linux. it had various corporate announcement and link to redhat/linux articles in the press.
now, it has stuff about the new playstation 2 and some mozilla party at a bar in san francisco on the main page. how is this supposed to help my calls for linux? how does that benifit my corporate clients? slashdot scares non-techies and now redhat has decidedly put up a barrier of technobabble stolen from slashdot.
i will now remove that redcom.com bumper sticker from my bmw. i work in the same building as sco's kernel group. they're probably laughing at me now.
you know it's a sad day for linux when their web site looks better on IE4/Win95 than it does on NS4.5/Solaris and NS4.5/Linux. Wow, using the default font settins with netscape, some text on the redhat site in five pixels high. that's fun to read!
Now Redhat looks like the biggest joke in town. Take this for example:
Posted by The.Heathen on Wednesday March 03, @02:20PM | X11/Games
Posted by CmdrTaco on Thursday March 04, @10:48AM |from the shake-your-groove-thang dept.
This stuff will bring linux to the mainstream? People will look at redhat.com and associate the linux community with the junky slashdot posts (kde/gnome/gpl/bsd rulez/sux first! not! etc)
I've now lost all respect for Redhat and because Redhat is portrayed as the official linux, it will hurt linux' image.
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BECAUSE...it now gives all of linux a bad name
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and redhat links to all those whiny /. kids
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Wonder what OS they're using?
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nope it's back up...and still sucks
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the title bar etc. isn't bad but i would definately sidebar the slashdot/freshmeat news and have RH news down the middle. Or at least present the portal part a little better. oh hell, make a portal.redhat.com and move the layout there. The portal idea is cool i guess but not for a corporate homepage. Its kinda unprofessional. I would have been confused as hell if i was a newbie looking for linux info etc. Let alone if I was a PHB.
oh well, just my 2 cents
-doobman
The sites linux.com and redhat.com are not for us.
Its for PH bosses who will buy Linux. What they will do first? Right. They will type "linux.com" and "redhat.com".
That's not for geeks, but that does not means that that's bad!
Andrew
I guess they could not make enough money selling Linux.
I'm glad. If they want a portal, let them use another URL for that.
The new RedHat portal
[o] sucks
[o] does not suck
[o] Rob Sucks/This Poll Sucks/Slashdot Sucks/First Post!
Your penance is to get an account and use it. Amen.
I've finally had it: until slashdot gets article moderation, I am not coming back.
Since it would seem their site moved, and it's taking ages for the cached entry to expire.
I've finally had it: until slashdot gets article moderation, I am not coming back.
I agree with previous posters that we don't need another site snagging headlines from slashdot, freshmeat, etc. Its easy enough to see all of this data on their respective sites, or slashdot itself which aggregates Freshmeat data (and presents it better than the Red Hat site).
That said, the site needs to polish up spacing inside cells, and some color issues.
There is far too much wasted space on the left and right gutters/borders of the page. You should always avoid large clumps of whitespace. Slashdot and Freshmeat have good approaches to conserving real estate - Red Hat does not.
This site also seems confusing for users who want to find out more about Red Hat itself. It seems to be more of a slashdot tribute site.
Whitespace along the gutters cannot improve the readability of the cramped font.
Hrmm.. having the /. poll on Redhat seems like
a bad idea. Sometimes these polls aren't exactly
business friendly (What's your favorite beer?). Do we really need these to be on a non-lighthearted site like Redhat?
/. == Good Clean Fun
Redhat == Business trying to make money and impress the pointy hairs..
Anyone else notice the sudden break in VA Research's virtual monopoly on sponsoring Linux-related sites?
/much/ more expensive than an equivalent VA sever, at least as far as I can tell. What are you getting for about double the price? Or am I just reading things wrong over there?
I feel bad for VA, since they've put so much more work into Linux. I visited the IBM Netfinity pages and didn't see a thing about Linux other than the official announcement - if you try building your own Netfinity, Linux isn't even an option.
The Netfinity is also
Incidentally, I agree with the consensus that Redhat's site is lousy. I didn't mind the colours, but if I want to read Slashdot, Fresh Meat or User Friendly, well, I'll visit them myself.
D
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I love RedHat and all, but you'd think they'd know to make their site somewhat lynx friendly. There's god darned [inline]'s all over the place. There isn't even a text based version. Oh well...
what a color scheme.... did RH hire a bunch of former McDonald's employees?
The new and improved RedHat site has nothing to do with RedHat. It is a piss-poor attempt at co-branding (vis a vis /. and Freshmeat). I already have three portal sites, and all three of them are better than RedHat's. The colors are ugly, and the content is lame/irrelevant/sucks.
Psychic prediction: The RedHat site will be changed within the next two days.
I vote for this too !!! I'm curious as to whether RedHat will use that poll and have a link to the (obvious) result (negative).
- sigs are for wimps.
Agreement there; this "Now with Portal" trend is really tired...
It seems that you are right.
-matt
Seems like so many people here are on machines connected to T1's, college LAN's, and 28.8/56K modems. Unless you people are playing Quake at the same time you're trying to view Red Hat's site, I don't see how they're wasting your bandwidth.
Some bandwidth waste is good. The effects make the site easier and more pleasant to deal with. Aesthetics (sp?) count you know. I don't feel like reading black text against a gray background all day long.
(As if Slashdot doesn't waste bandwidth, using images for story subject groups instead of a bandwidth saving text link.)
'Portal' does seem to be the buzz word these days, doesn't it? Can't wait to see what happens to the stock.
The tables were terribly slow and the headlines from SlashDot and FreshMeat seemed kind of pointless and, well, tacky. They would have been better served buying a banner on SlashDot and leaving their page the way it was. A real honest to goodness find everything here Linux Portal would be nice, but this certainly ain't it.
Hear, hear. If I want to see Slashdot, I can click my mouse. Quite frankly, Red Hat's site has been a big loser for a long time. This job, at least the front page, looks like they grabbed some html'ers from the local high school and paid 'em a few bucks to gin up a page. I hope that's the case, because if they paid more for professionals, they got ripped.
Oh, and ditto the complaint on broken links. That tradition was certainly maintained. They may sell a good distribution, but their web site is an embarassment.
=h=
Ah, thankyouverymuch.
Ugh. I think I hate that yellow...
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In a real emergency, we would have all fled in terror, and you would not have been notified.
Same here.. even cleared my cache and reloaded.
It's the same old site!
I'd think that if they want to become a sort of general Linux portal, they'd provide easy access to what I would consider essential Linux resources. The Linux Documentation Project comes immediately to mind, although other Linux FAQ's and sites would also be nice. Ghod knows there's enough room for some extra links in the sidebars.
Weblogging Considered Harmful:
I found that it was nearly impossible to find support infomation on the old RedHat site.
Either what I was looking for wasn't there, or I couldn't find it. I find the new site is a big improvement in this regard.
Is it just me or are fixed width websites annoying. Used to be that HTML rendered in whatever sized browser window you had. Lately everyone want's to tell you how big your browser window should be. Fight the power! =)
hehe.. and see what they do then.
I've been trying for the last hour, and it seems to be down. Either that or the proxy is filtering out dubious material again.
Life sucks but death doesn't put out at all....
Plus there sould be an option for "I haven't seen it yet due to the Slashdot Effect/Red Hat's shitty bandwidth".
Kai MacTane: Web developer for hire in San Francisco
hey. you forgot the obligatory 'huh?'.
also, i think the new site sucks. ugly. it's just sad that slashdot had to be part of the imminent demise of redhat.com...
i guess redhat got really mad that they didn't get linux.com, eh? the former owner of that domain chastised redhat for just tossing money at him, and not offering a linux-supportive plan for the web site. they sure are trying to be supportive now, eh?!?
this new site just looks like a re-slashdot with a suckier color scheme. They even ripped the poll? I know they wanted a portal, but come on!
-davek
6th Street Radio @ddombrowsky
In other news, astrophysicists have announced that they now know what all that dark matter is: it's stupidity.
like others have said, it's a rehash of other sites all pasted together.
/., and freshmeat. but the site is redhat.com -- makes no sense to me.
the older version had a professional look to it, something I could show to a manager.
the new one? arghhhh. i don't even like looking at it. the focus is on "linux",
i keep thinking "this is a joke, right?"
"My ass is a portal."
/. news, I can (surprise) get that at /. and not freshmeat news because (more surprise) I can get that at freshmeat.net.
Portals are sooo 1997. It's ugly, it's stupid, it's worthless. All I want from a RedHat site is RedHat info. Not
RedHat, are you listening? The average Linux user doesn't want a portal. The average Linux user can write his/her own in HTML. Additionally, the average Portal user a) doesn't know Linux from a vacuum cleaner and b) is already portalling through Yahoo or Netscape.
Give up this madness and launch a site that people can be proud of (or here's an idea, fix RHCN so it actually works).
It seems that Redhat cannot even keep their new links up to date. The link to "today's" UserFriendly is several days old...
What new site!
They re-did their site MONTHS AGO! Right along with the release of RedHat 5.2....
Get with it boys!
-+- Dr. Frag
- The page dos not error-free run through:validator.w3.org Hu!? Even
/. fails!? - It is not LYNX-clean (no ALT-Attribs etc.)
- It is too slow (more than 30 seconds from Europe)
- It's not user-friendly, not "clear" enough
How to avoid this:- Read the alertboxes
- use a 14.400 Modem to simulate over-sea connections (this is no joke!)
- use tidy to clean up Your pages
- try with LYNX before publishing!
Why this is important:People using the best OS should write the best code.
Anybody besides me think it's odd for a Linux site to be using a MS font? Granted, the HTML does degrade gracefully, but still...