...they don't really need all these fancy brain scanning devices. They can just do this and get just as reliable results. It's what our society has basically become anyway. The whole reason for crap like this is to give a veneer of credibility by showing the public a machine that goes "bing!"
Even if the odds were 100% that it would hit it would be 171.5 years before any bureaucrat does anything.
Well, why else do you think they are telling us about it now? They want to make sure all the appropriate committees get formed, the possibility of a floor debate is debated in committee, experts are called in to give testimony, the Republicans hold up debate in committee, the Democrats call the Republicans "obstructionists", we have a new election or two, the Democrats hold up debate in committee, the Republicans demand a floor debate with an "up or down" vote, we start a new war which derails debate for a few years.
Then, when they finally do get around to a floor debate, the minority party filibusters just for the sake of being assholes. Then, at about year 170, they all "stand together" and make dramatic speeches about "bipartisanship" and "Zeus bless America" and how, since America was founded on Greco-Roman principles, we need to put "In Zeus We Trust" at least on our $10000 coins. Next, they contract out the work, but the contractors who won the bid are behind schedule and over budget. Finally, the Chinese, who have been working on this quietly the whole time, send some of their astronauts into space. They all die, but the asteroid is deflected and the Chinese use the developed technology to completely take over the world.
The problem with "If you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide" is that we all,
every one of us, has done something wrong in someone's eyes. Anything might be mis-construed
by an over-zealous watcher, mis-interpreted, mis-represented and mis-applied, the
simplest of innocent actions might be used to convict us.
Cardinal Richelieu: "If one would give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest man, I would find something in them to have him hanged."
Harvard and Yale educated MBA types who imbibed socialist theory with their mother's milk.
You obviously know nothing about Harvard or Yale. I know Harvard and Yale people, both personally and professionally. They are definitely *not* socialist types. People go to Harvard and Yale to be big-time professionals. In fact, part of the reason to go to these schools is the networking potentials, at least for business and law schools.
Turn off Rush Limbaugh and try to get out in the world for a change.
Stand with South Park: Ridicule Allah and his ultraviolent, child molesting "Prophet" while it is still legal!
Kudzu is for feeding goats. If you can get Americans to eat goat meat, you'll wipe out kudzu in short order.
Put goat meat in American supermarkets and they'll eat it. Americans eat anything and they don't care what it is.
Actually, most Americans are fairly narrow-minded about food. They won't eat "just anything." They'll simply eat a lot of the same old thing.
Anyway, what's wrong with goat? Lots of places have goat, you just don't see it in the States. The only place I got to try goat was in Indonesia. It's not really anything special, but you should try new things from time to time.
You can't see how having reasonable lending procedures and laws, as well as holding banks accountable for shady practices is a good idea? And you call *me* an idiot (and in ALL CAPS, no less). By the way, if you have to shout your point of view, rather than simply stating it, perhaps you should review what you believe. It's generally a sign that you don't have a clue. But, good luck with your "I'M RIGHT BECAUSE I TYPE IN ALL CAPS" meme.
Ah, another supporter of fascism in America (oh, sorry, I should have said "conservatism"). Please, go blow you brains out like your Führer did. The world would be better off without you in it.
My, you're such a pathetic angry little worm, aren't you.
You specifically spewed forth:
you're demanding fair credit? what gives you the right? you don't have any credit. if you want credit, there are terms. if you don't like the terms, you don't get credit. this has nothing to do with "fair".
So, you basically think that banks should be able to give out credit on whatever terms they want, even if it involves giving out loans in other people's names. That's why, in an actual civilized society, we have these things called "laws" which punish harmful behavior like this.
I know people like you hate the idea that people might actually have to obey laws and not screw innocent people over, but those of us who like living in reality prefer to have some semblance of civilization around.
The more financial liability we push off to those who make the mistakes, the more we will pay in the costs of goods and services and/or the more companies will play organizational games like incorporating overseas or contracting out data-gathering to "independent third parties" who can simply file liquidation bankruptcy in the event of a too-expensive data breach.
Or, when that is not possible, goods and services may not be offered at all because no company will sell them at a price that the public will pay after factoring in liability costs.
Great idea. Let's just let all corporations do anything they want. After all, we wouldn't want them to actually be accountable for anything, would we?
Is it fair that you have to worry for decades and pay for further credit monitoring when they are to blame for your information ending up in the wrong hands?
you're demanding fair credit? what gives you the right? you don't have any credit. if you want credit, there are terms. if you don't like the terms, you don't get credit. this has nothing to do with "fair".
Well, if someone uses your personal info to get a big loan in your name that you then have to pay back, it can be a bit of a problem. Sorry if understanding simple things like this is too difficult for you.
Figures are for the number of people jailed per 100,000 population, for 2007.
There is a more up to date list (7th edition) but I couldn't find a link for it that didn't require a PDF download.
USA: 714
China: 117
Although, to be fair, part of this is due to the fact that China *executes* a lot more of its convicts than we do.
Some people think anything you do or say is attention-whoring, even if you never wanted the attention. If a guy makes a joke in a forum post, he's a funny guy. If a girl makes a joke in a forum post, she's an attention whore. If a guy makes a good argument in a forum post, he's a smart guy. If a girl makes a good argument in a forum post, she's doing it for attention. She's ESPECIALLY an attention whore if people like her or agree with her.
The basic problem with your argument is that it assumes the existence of females on slashdot.
No, I mean phase. As in, put into phase with reality, rather than at 90 degrees with reality. Of course, some fundie nutjob no doubt was offended and modded me down. Keep it classy. When arguments don't work, you always resort to brute force. Because, you know, that's what Jesus would have done.
Slashdot Mirror
And here I was, thinking it was some kind of Star Trek fandom institute in the US.
...they don't really need all these fancy brain scanning devices. They can just do this and get just as reliable results. It's what our society has basically become anyway. The whole reason for crap like this is to give a veneer of credibility by showing the public a machine that goes "bing!"
Funny or not, why would that be a troll?
Max von Sydow has mod points.
Even if the odds were 100% that it would hit it would be 171.5 years before any bureaucrat does anything.
Well, why else do you think they are telling us about it now? They want to make sure all the appropriate committees get formed, the possibility of a floor debate is debated in committee, experts are called in to give testimony, the Republicans hold up debate in committee, the Democrats call the Republicans "obstructionists", we have a new election or two, the Democrats hold up debate in committee, the Republicans demand a floor debate with an "up or down" vote, we start a new war which derails debate for a few years.
Then, when they finally do get around to a floor debate, the minority party filibusters just for the sake of being assholes. Then, at about year 170, they all "stand together" and make dramatic speeches about "bipartisanship" and "Zeus bless America" and how, since America was founded on Greco-Roman principles, we need to put "In Zeus We Trust" at least on our $10000 coins. Next, they contract out the work, but the contractors who won the bid are behind schedule and over budget. Finally, the Chinese, who have been working on this quietly the whole time, send some of their astronauts into space. They all die, but the asteroid is deflected and the Chinese use the developed technology to completely take over the world.
In short, we're doomed either way.
640 clones of Chuck Norris should be enough for any asteroid.
We actually have nothing to worry about. Chuck Norris already stared out into space at the asteroid. It deflected itself out of fear.
He already had. He's just fucking with us!
But at least we'll get to see jet-skis explode in fabulous balls of flame!
The problem with "If you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide" is that we all, every one of us, has done something wrong in someone's eyes. Anything might be mis-construed by an over-zealous watcher, mis-interpreted, mis-represented and mis-applied, the simplest of innocent actions might be used to convict us.
Cardinal Richelieu: "If one would give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest man, I would find something in them to have him hanged."
Is God part of their fleet maintenance engineering crew?
Well, whatever role he plays, I wish he would smite the TSA!
And here I was hoping they would end the world!
You obviously know nothing about Harvard or Yale. I know Harvard and Yale people, both personally and professionally. They are definitely *not* socialist types. People go to Harvard and Yale to be big-time professionals. In fact, part of the reason to go to these schools is the networking potentials, at least for business and law schools.
Turn off Rush Limbaugh and try to get out in the world for a change.
On that, at least, we can agree ^_^ .
Slashdot sucks! I hope you all die horrible, lingering deaths!
Hell is other commenters.
Kudzu is for feeding goats. If you can get Americans to eat goat meat, you'll wipe out kudzu in short order.
Put goat meat in American supermarkets and they'll eat it. Americans eat anything and they don't care what it is.
Actually, most Americans are fairly narrow-minded about food. They won't eat "just anything." They'll simply eat a lot of the same old thing. Anyway, what's wrong with goat? Lots of places have goat, you just don't see it in the States. The only place I got to try goat was in Indonesia. It's not really anything special, but you should try new things from time to time.
Remember, we can't say "dyke". We can't even say "lesbian". It's "women in comfortable shoes".
You can't see how having reasonable lending procedures and laws, as well as holding banks accountable for shady practices is a good idea? And you call *me* an idiot (and in ALL CAPS, no less). By the way, if you have to shout your point of view, rather than simply stating it, perhaps you should review what you believe. It's generally a sign that you don't have a clue. But, good luck with your "I'M RIGHT BECAUSE I TYPE IN ALL CAPS" meme.
Ah, another supporter of fascism in America (oh, sorry, I should have said "conservatism"). Please, go blow you brains out like your Führer did. The world would be better off without you in it.
As a non-native English speaker. I wonder what's the meaning of "demilitarized", that's what is news to me.
It's one of those bizarre terms we have in Newspeak, kind of like "police action".
You specifically spewed forth:
So, you basically think that banks should be able to give out credit on whatever terms they want, even if it involves giving out loans in other people's names. That's why, in an actual civilized society, we have these things called "laws" which punish harmful behavior like this.
I know people like you hate the idea that people might actually have to obey laws and not screw innocent people over, but those of us who like living in reality prefer to have some semblance of civilization around.
The more financial liability we push off to those who make the mistakes, the more we will pay in the costs of goods and services and/or the more companies will play organizational games like incorporating overseas or contracting out data-gathering to "independent third parties" who can simply file liquidation bankruptcy in the event of a too-expensive data breach.
Or, when that is not possible, goods and services may not be offered at all because no company will sell them at a price that the public will pay after factoring in liability costs.
Great idea. Let's just let all corporations do anything they want. After all, we wouldn't want them to actually be accountable for anything, would we?
Is it fair that you have to worry for decades and pay for further credit monitoring when they are to blame for your information ending up in the wrong hands?
you're demanding fair credit? what gives you the right? you don't have any credit. if you want credit, there are terms. if you don't like the terms, you don't get credit. this has nothing to do with "fair".
Well, if someone uses your personal info to get a big loan in your name that you then have to pay back, it can be a bit of a problem. Sorry if understanding simple things like this is too difficult for you.
Just don't forget to pay your SCO licensing fees you cock-smoking teabaggers!
Okay. Now I'm really confused. What does Sarah Palin have to do with SCO???
Although, to be fair, part of this is due to the fact that China *executes* a lot more of its convicts than we do.
http://www.metafilter.com/93492/But-my-name-really-is-Deathblood-Blackaxe#3171416 From the section titled Reasons Why This Is Bad, Even If You're Not a Troll:, ninth bullet point:
The basic problem with your argument is that it assumes the existence of females on slashdot.
didn't phase their hate-addled brains one bit.
You mean faze.
No, I mean phase. As in, put into phase with reality, rather than at 90 degrees with reality. Of course, some fundie nutjob no doubt was offended and modded me down. Keep it classy. When arguments don't work, you always resort to brute force. Because, you know, that's what Jesus would have done.