"Really? The polls were NOT slanted 70% against, and even if they were, the rule of law here is that only congress can declare war, and they did."
In other words, you're saying that I'm wrong, yet conceding that I may be correct (I am.) but that the issue of democratic process is unimportant.
In a democratic system, the people's voices are supposed to matter. Even though the U.S. system is not a pure democracy, we are allegedly represented by elected officials. There was way too large a gap between public opinion and the congressional vote to believe that democracy is working.
"So, it was not, as you said, entirely a matter for the UN and not the US/UK/Coalition."
It has nothing to do with which Army does the fighting. It has everything to do with the justification. The war was not sanctioned by any democratic body. Furthermore, the primary reason that GW gave for going in has turned out to be bogus.
"There are valid legal reasons justifying the war. Technically, Saddam was in violation of the terms of the 1991 cease-fire."
But that's a matter for the U.N., not for US+UK+... IMO, certain UN member countries should have been aboard, but they have their own agendas and by rule of law are entitled to vote any way they like. There were pre-war opinion polls that said about 70% of the U.S. thought that we should not go to war unless the U.N. approved.
So we have the U.S. citizens saying no, the U.N. saying no and yet Bush just goes right ahead and starts the war.
What I just can't understand is how, as soon as the war started, so many people could change their minds and support the man who showed a total disregard for their wishes. Machiavelli comes to mind when I think about how Bush tries to justify his actions by claiming that it's all in the name of democracy.
"And the GPL is what makes sure that it will stay in the public domain."
No, the GPL ensures that it is *not* in the public domain, but that enhancements *are* covered by the GPL. The government should choose between public domain and a GPL style license on a case-by-case basis.
If a government funds the from-scratch development of a project there may be no reason to release under GPL, or BSD for that matter. Whatever rights are granted to the software should be granted only to the taxpayers. I'm not interested in funding the development of other nations, especially these days.
Let's say I sell brooms by running commercials on soap operas. Scratch that, I'm selling soap. And let's say that I learn that 20% of the viewers watch tv on a PVR. I realize that PVRs allow consumers to skip commercials, so that sucks for me. But I'd still rather that they be skipping *my* commercials than my competitors. I know that once in a while, they'll see my product for a second. And by making the ad entertaining, I can still improve my odds.
The name of the game is broadcasting. The broader the better. They need to make the program listings accessible. IMO, they should consider sending it out in XML over usenet.
The directors have a fiduciary responsibility to do attempt to do whatever is "advertised" in the prospectus as well as abiding by rules of law.
You can't talk about making money without talking about the risk. One could argue that M$ greedy approach to business will backfire in the end and that stockholders will get burned. Hell, if it weren't for Bush getting into office, MS's shareholders would have paid a big penalty for the company's transgressions.
Believe it or not, the owners of publically listed companies do have a conscience and would be happy with a modest return on an honest investment rather than being along for a ride with Bonnie and Clyde.
Morse code... my thoughts exactly. That ought to be enough prior art to invalidate the MS patent.
But really it was probably a prehistoric toad-like creature that did the actual innovating. Well done, Mr. Gates, your vast enterpise has the same mental capacity as a prehistoric reptile.
"I know it isn't perfect, but in a case of a process going harvast and eating eat all VM up, it will be the one to be killed, very sure, nothing endagered, POINT!"
The badness() func in 2.4.22 uses these factors: psize, cputime, runtime, is_superuser, and is_nice.
So consider a system that starts a large database server and an instance of a db client program at boot time. The db server allocates a bit less than half of VM. After a while, the client program goes crazy and eats up the remaining VM.
Assume: The client becomes as large as the db server. The runtime of the 2 procs is the same. is_superuser == 0 for both procs. is_nice == 0 for both procs.
cputime becomes the deciding factor, and it isn't a longshot that the db server will have used fewer cycles than the runaway client. The db server would be killed.
The scoring heuristic you described is not perfect. Healthy processes are endangered any time there's a shortage of VM regardless of which process or processes caused it.
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The parent, was talking about processes "munching RAM", not VM.
On a system with no swap, all of VM would be exhausted very quickly by a runaway, at which point the behavior you're describing would kick in. But on a system *with* swap, IO waits act like a brake. In some cases it gives the admin time to stop the runaway train before it hits the wall (no more VM).
My dad was selling those newfangled electronic Friden calculators back in the mid sixties when I was a little kid. Once in a while, he'd bring home one of the old mechanical machines that had been traded in, like this one. I'd love to have one of those babies now.
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I don't think Galileo believed that the Sun is the center of the universe.
"Really? The polls were NOT slanted 70% against, and even if they were, the rule of law here is that only congress can declare war, and they did."
In other words, you're saying that I'm wrong, yet conceding that I may be correct (I am.) but that the issue of democratic process is unimportant.
In a democratic system, the people's voices are supposed to matter. Even though the U.S. system is not a pure democracy, we are allegedly represented by elected officials. There was way too large a gap between public opinion and the congressional vote to believe that democracy is working.
"The difference between me and most screeching partisan loosers is that I supported both Clinton and Bush."
Multiple personality disorder?
"So, it was not, as you said, entirely a matter for the UN and not the US/UK/Coalition."
It has nothing to do with which Army does the fighting. It has everything to do with the justification. The war was not sanctioned by any democratic body. Furthermore, the primary reason that GW gave for going in has turned out to be bogus.
"There are valid legal reasons justifying the war. Technically, Saddam was in violation of the terms of the 1991 cease-fire."
But that's a matter for the U.N., not for US+UK+... IMO, certain UN member countries should have been aboard, but they have their own agendas and by rule of law are entitled to vote any way they like. There were pre-war opinion polls that said about 70% of the U.S. thought that we should not go to war unless the U.N. approved.
So we have the U.S. citizens saying no, the U.N. saying no and yet Bush just goes right ahead and starts the war.
What I just can't understand is how, as soon as the war started, so many people could change their minds and support the man who showed a total disregard for their wishes. Machiavelli comes to mind when I think about how Bush tries to justify his actions by claiming that it's all in the name of democracy.
"A VNC can't do that if the SSH tunnel is broken."
Huh? You can establish a new tunnel and re-connect to the still running session.
What a maroon.
"3 other people took my tin-foil hat joke :("
Do you think they were working together?
Who modded this as insightful? It's completely wrong.
"And the GPL is what makes sure that it will stay in the public domain."
No, the GPL ensures that it is *not* in the public domain, but that enhancements *are* covered by the GPL. The government should choose between public domain and a GPL style license on a case-by-case basis.
If a government funds the from-scratch development of a project there may be no reason to release under GPL, or BSD for that matter. Whatever rights are granted to the software should be granted only to the taxpayers. I'm not interested in funding the development of other nations, especially these days.
"Someone pleas convince me I'm wrong."
Let's say I sell brooms by running commercials on soap operas. Scratch that, I'm selling soap. And let's say that I learn that 20% of the viewers watch tv on a PVR. I realize that PVRs allow consumers to skip commercials, so that sucks for me. But I'd still rather that they be skipping *my* commercials than my competitors. I know that once in a while, they'll see my product for a second. And by making the ad entertaining, I can still improve my odds.
The name of the game is broadcasting. The broader the better. They need to make the program listings accessible. IMO, they should consider sending it out in XML over usenet.
The directors have a fiduciary responsibility to do attempt to do whatever is "advertised" in the prospectus as well as abiding by rules of law.
You can't talk about making money without talking about the risk. One could argue that M$ greedy approach to business will backfire in the end and that stockholders will get burned. Hell, if it weren't for Bush getting into office, MS's shareholders would have paid a big penalty for the company's transgressions.
Believe it or not, the owners of publically listed companies do have a conscience and would be happy with a modest return on an honest investment rather than being along for a ride with Bonnie and Clyde.
"the US government said it, thus it must be correct"
I see it like this:
Executive branch == fucked
Legislative branch == 0.5 fucked
Judicial branch == 0.2 fucked
"Nothing wrong here."
Too young to remember that they were found guilty of illegal trade practices? Ah, you see illegal trade practices as moral. Now I get it.
"It's not like I'm some kind of anti-MS nut."
It's the pro-MS people who are nuts.
5/p3rlm4n/g01dm4n/
"no particular reason"
Hmm, last time I used MSWindows, it said "General protection fault" and now it just says "no particular reason".
Congrats Bill, you truly are an industry something-or-other.
Morse code... my thoughts exactly. That ought to be enough prior art to invalidate the MS patent.
But really it was probably a prehistoric toad-like creature that did the actual innovating. Well done, Mr. Gates, your vast enterpise has the same mental capacity as a prehistoric reptile.
"resign -- or be fired"
I invited them to my cookout. They can have their choice of a hot steak or a cold chop.
"I know it isn't perfect, but in a case of a process going harvast and eating eat all VM up, it will be the one to be killed, very sure, nothing endagered, POINT!"
The badness() func in 2.4.22 uses these factors: psize, cputime, runtime, is_superuser, and is_nice.
So consider a system that starts a large database server and an instance of a db client program at boot time. The db server allocates a bit less than half of VM. After a while, the client program goes crazy and eats up the remaining VM.
Assume:
The client becomes as large as the db server.
The runtime of the 2 procs is the same.
is_superuser == 0 for both procs.
is_nice == 0 for both procs.
cputime becomes the deciding factor, and it isn't a longshot that the db server will have used fewer cycles than the runaway client. The db server would be killed.
Another workaround would be to install Linux first. The windows installer will respect the other OSes... oh, never mind.
The scoring heuristic you described is not perfect. Healthy processes are endangered any time there's a shortage of VM regardless of which process or processes caused it.
The parent, was talking about processes "munching RAM", not VM.
On a system with no swap, all of VM would be exhausted very quickly by a runaway, at which point the behavior you're describing would kick in. But on a system *with* swap, IO waits act like a brake. In some cases it gives the admin time to stop the runaway train before it hits the wall (no more VM).
My dad was selling those newfangled electronic Friden calculators back in the mid sixties when I was a little kid. Once in a while, he'd bring home one of the old mechanical machines that had been traded in, like this one. I'd love to have one of those babies now.
"Yes, it an Anon Hero post, like mine, but it's right on the money."
Karma Bonus time I guess... Ditto.