I think part of the problem is that people don't seem to understand what netbooks are for. They're for looking at the 'net. eg, running a browser and an email client. They are certainly NOT for running Microsoft Office, Adobe Photoshop, Visual Studio or playing games.
I think people view them as bargain laptops, and then complain when it doesn't do all the same thing that standard laptops do at 2-3 times the price.
That's a really bad example. With Windows Vista and Windows 7 I *DO* have my desktop in 15 seconds. I've never had that with any previous version of Windows. Much of the "pre-loading" is actually done post boot. MS have even moved many services that don't need to be ready straight away (eg Defender) to the new "Delayed Start" setting (see services.msc) so they load after your desktop is already ready.
Vista and Windows 7 use a lot of RAM for caching so that your computer is faster. It's not using more RAM just to annoy you. After all, you PAID for that RAM, so why not actually use it to speed up your system? If an application needs lots of RAM and you're running short on physical RAM, it will free up that RAM and make it available for use by other applications automatically so you haven't lost anything.
If you're that bothered - just stick with Windows 98 which doesn't do any of this stuff.
The lowest spec available would be a niche market for people that need a very low powered machine - eg the original Eee PC. Many netbooks actually have 2GB of RAM. Those specs ARE pretty typical entry-level netbook specs looking at the reviews sat on my desk.
> AdBlock is illegally manipulating the author's content
That's a total lie. It does NOT manipulate the authors content at all. The original website text remains exactly the same. It only maniplates the text in your own browser which is obviously totally legal. Do you really think AdBlock is implemented in a way that hacks the website you're looking at to alter the code?!
No.. That was IE6 (six!) which is 8 years old!. What the fuck is the point in patching a browser that's 8 years old and didn't work properly in the first place?
They need to get IE8 onto every desktop as fast as possible. It should not be "opt in" because most people don't even know what a "browser" is, let alone why they need a new one. In a BBC survey many people though the browser WAS the internet, or that the IE icon on their desktop was how they "download Google". Seriously - roll it out to everyone. The world will be a much better place (especially for us web developers).
Well if it didn't have the glitches and install issues, Silverlight is actually FAR better than Flash for what they were using it for. Flash is simply awful to program for - it's really designed for simple animations and it's now being used for all sorts of other stuff for which it's not really suited. Silverlight is designed from the ground up to be an interactive front end for powerful web applications, not for making animations. So it wasn't a stupid idea choosing it, it's just a shame that you need admin privilages to install it and it seems to have some technical issues for some users. In a year or so's time when these glitches are ironed out, I'm sure Silverlight will really start to take off.
Yeah, I've never seen even a SINGLE BSOD under Vista. If anything it's dodgy hardware and nothing to do with the reliability of Vista. If it was Vista, everyone would be seeing these, and since I stopped using ATI graphics cards and switched to NVidia a few years ago, I've never seen a BSOD.
Because it's not urgent perhaps?! If you weren't licensed yesterday nothing is suddenly going happen today that lands you in the shit. It's better to seek advice and think things through rather than just calling panicy meetings. I hate people who come to meetings totally unprepared.
If you're reflecting gravity waves, is there not a change of momentum involved? If so, why wouldn't reflecting it reduce the gravity on the object concerned?
Well here in the UK, a 50,000 pound dummy rocket is regarded as quite expensive. You'd think a dummy would be a lot cheaper than that. I'm sure I saw one on eBay for a half-a-dozen monkeys.
So after years of everyone on here bitching about IE's rendering engine, MS finally do something about it and then everyone starts bitching about it rendering websites according to the standards (causing IE6 targetted websites to no longer display properly)?! I give up! (and I'm a professional web developer!)
The problem with IE8 is that it IS rendering things properly (or at least, a hell of a lot better than it was before) and the websites are coded around old bugs which have now been fixed.
The whole reason everyone uses Windows is because it's so damn easy. It's the hobbists that install Linux - not the other way round. I'm not saying Windows is better - I'm just saying that you've got to be seriously into PCs as a hobby to even know what Linux is, let alone run it as your only OS.
Of course it matters! Web browsers are multithreaded. A simple flash animiation can take a CPU to 100% quite easily if it relies on 'idle' events to render at full speed. If you've got more than two tabs open, a multi-core machine will be noticably faster.
No it doesn't! The new style Slashdot does not render properly in Chrome OR Firefox 3 on my machine. It renders text on top of text sometimes and you have to refresh or scroll to get it to work correctly.
> Most $50 Sony Ericsson phones can interact with your computer on a level that puts the iPhone to shame
Bad example. I have a $150 Sony Ericson K800i and a bluetooth keyboard and I can assure you they do not work together. I repeat - bluetooth keyboard is rare.
You've missed my point entirely. It's generally accepted that to "cripple" is when you purposefully disable something that is already there in the software. There is NO bluetooth keyboard support in the iPhone bluetooth stack, therefore it is not crippled! You cannot cripple something which is not even present in the first place. My car is not "crippled" because it does not have wings. If I wanted something with wings, I could have bought a plane.
Nope... it won't. It's totally static and does no route recalculation at all. It has no concept of whether you're on or off a route in the first place - it's just Google Maps with a marker to show you where you are.
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I think part of the problem is that people don't seem to understand what netbooks are for. They're for looking at the 'net. eg, running a browser and an email client. They are certainly NOT for running Microsoft Office, Adobe Photoshop, Visual Studio or playing games.
I think people view them as bargain laptops, and then complain when it doesn't do all the same thing that standard laptops do at 2-3 times the price.
That's a really bad example. With Windows Vista and Windows 7 I *DO* have my desktop in 15 seconds. I've never had that with any previous version of Windows. Much of the "pre-loading" is actually done post boot. MS have even moved many services that don't need to be ready straight away (eg Defender) to the new "Delayed Start" setting (see services.msc) so they load after your desktop is already ready.
Vista and Windows 7 use a lot of RAM for caching so that your computer is faster. It's not using more RAM just to annoy you. After all, you PAID for that RAM, so why not actually use it to speed up your system? If an application needs lots of RAM and you're running short on physical RAM, it will free up that RAM and make it available for use by other applications automatically so you haven't lost anything.
If you're that bothered - just stick with Windows 98 which doesn't do any of this stuff.
Entry Level != Lowest Spec Available
The lowest spec available would be a niche market for people that need a very low powered machine - eg the original Eee PC. Many netbooks actually have 2GB of RAM. Those specs ARE pretty typical entry-level netbook specs looking at the reviews sat on my desk.
> AdBlock is illegally manipulating the author's content
That's a total lie. It does NOT manipulate the authors content at all. The original website text remains exactly the same. It only maniplates the text in your own browser which is obviously totally legal. Do you really think AdBlock is implemented in a way that hacks the website you're looking at to alter the code?!
No.. That was IE6 (six!) which is 8 years old!. What the fuck is the point in patching a browser that's 8 years old and didn't work properly in the first place?
They need to get IE8 onto every desktop as fast as possible. It should not be "opt in" because most people don't even know what a "browser" is, let alone why they need a new one. In a BBC survey many people though the browser WAS the internet, or that the IE icon on their desktop was how they "download Google". Seriously - roll it out to everyone. The world will be a much better place (especially for us web developers).
PS: "to add insult to injury--proprietary."
- yes, just like Flash which is also totally proprietary.
Well if it didn't have the glitches and install issues, Silverlight is actually FAR better than Flash for what they were using it for. Flash is simply awful to program for - it's really designed for simple animations and it's now being used for all sorts of other stuff for which it's not really suited. Silverlight is designed from the ground up to be an interactive front end for powerful web applications, not for making animations. So it wasn't a stupid idea choosing it, it's just a shame that you need admin privilages to install it and it seems to have some technical issues for some users. In a year or so's time when these glitches are ironed out, I'm sure Silverlight will really start to take off.
The article, which was released yesterday, is dated 31st March! How often will this have to be said in this thread before people actually read it?
It's not a April Fool when the article is dated 31st MARCH. Why the fuck would someone joke about kids getting autism?
It's not an April Fool it's dated the 31st... Do you really think even slashdot would joke about kids with autism? Looks like you are the april fool.
Yeah, I've never seen even a SINGLE BSOD under Vista.
If anything it's dodgy hardware and nothing to do with the reliability of Vista. If it was Vista, everyone would be seeing these, and since I stopped using ATI graphics cards and switched to NVidia a few years ago, I've never seen a BSOD.
4.5 petabytes should be enough for anyone.
Am I the only one hoping like hell that someone will release this virus for the Mac and Linux platforms? :)
Because it's not urgent perhaps?! If you weren't licensed yesterday nothing is suddenly going happen today that lands you in the shit. It's better to seek advice and think things through rather than just calling panicy meetings. I hate people who come to meetings totally unprepared.
If you're reflecting gravity waves, is there not a change of momentum involved? If so, why wouldn't reflecting it reduce the gravity on the object concerned?
...how many superconducting sheets do I need to make a hoverboard?
Well here in the UK, a 50,000 pound dummy rocket is regarded as quite expensive. You'd think a dummy would be a lot cheaper than that. I'm sure I saw one on eBay for a half-a-dozen monkeys.
So after years of everyone on here bitching about IE's rendering engine, MS finally do something about it and then everyone starts bitching about it rendering websites according to the standards (causing IE6 targetted websites to no longer display properly)?! I give up! (and I'm a professional web developer!)
The problem with IE8 is that it IS rendering things properly (or at least, a hell of a lot better than it was before) and the websites are coded around old bugs which have now been fixed.
I agree - that's a unwarranted flamebait mod.
The whole reason everyone uses Windows is because it's so damn easy. It's the hobbists that install Linux - not the other way round. I'm not saying Windows is better - I'm just saying that you've got to be seriously into PCs as a hobby to even know what Linux is, let alone run it as your only OS.
Mod parent up.
Of course it matters! Web browsers are multithreaded. A simple flash animiation can take a CPU to 100% quite easily if it relies on 'idle' events to render at full speed. If you've got more than two tabs open, a multi-core machine will be noticably faster.
> All of that stuff works in FF.
No it doesn't! The new style Slashdot does not render properly in Chrome OR Firefox 3 on my machine. It renders text on top of text sometimes and you have to refresh or scroll to get it to work correctly.
So my PC is "crippled" because the manufacturer decided NOT to install EVERY available piece of software for the platorm? Great argument. Not.
> Most $50 Sony Ericsson phones can interact with your computer on a level that puts the iPhone to shame
Bad example. I have a $150 Sony Ericson K800i and a bluetooth keyboard and I can assure you they do not work together. I repeat - bluetooth keyboard is rare.
You've missed my point entirely. It's generally accepted that to "cripple" is when you purposefully disable something that is already there in the software. There is NO bluetooth keyboard support in the iPhone bluetooth stack, therefore it is not crippled! You cannot cripple something which is not even present in the first place. My car is not "crippled" because it does not have wings. If I wanted something with wings, I could have bought a plane.
Nope... it won't. It's totally static and does no route recalculation at all. It has no concept of whether you're on or off a route in the first place - it's just Google Maps with a marker to show you where you are.