What if a radio magically appeared on the side walk (public property) powered by batteries (a power cord goes to private property) playing the radio loud enough for all to hear? Oh and best be sure to wipe all fingerprints off (to include those batteries).
I should have been more clear... my point isn't about the priests, but about faith based, non-scientific explanations for the world around us. Priests often use them, and people who use them are often priests. Some priests likely do still attempt to seek true knowledge and search for rational explanations for the world around us. But, if I happen across a random religious figure on the street, odds are against them having an open and honest discussion about the origin and workings of the universe that doesn't turn a blind eye to facts. As you say YMMV but by their very nature as priests they have already "admitted" that at some point their explanation for the universe is "god did it"
You missed his point... it isn't about what the average android user has blah blah blah... it is about his specific example where EVEN CHEAPER AND UNSUBSIDIZED his wife STILL isn't as impressed as a the more expensive option with Siri.
In fact, you're being so obtuse you don't even realize that you and tthomas48 AGREE.
The difference is that priests hypothesis was actually testable because it made predicitions that could actually be verified or invalidated by experimentation.
No one is saying ignore priests, they are saying ignore people who deal in faith based fantasies that are not even remotely testable or falsafiable. That those people tent to be priests and that priests generally only talk about that type of stuff is the cruch of the arguement.
As I have gotten older (39), my ego has waxed and waned, my experiences have broadened, I've had many a debate with family, friends and acquaintences, and I've thought about the topic and at this point in time my feelings on the subject are:
Politically: I'm nearly a militant athiest, keep your "beliefs" the hell out of my life. I live in an observable testable world of logic. Intellectually: I ackowledge that I can't KNOW either way, but I also have yet to see any evidence even hinting at the existance of a god(s) Personally: I do not care because I do not believe it/they are worthy of worship, give a shit about me, or play any part in the short or long term outcome of my life.
In true nerd fashion, Stargate really had a huge impact on crystalizing thoughts that were rattling around in my head back in my 20's. In the end, no matter how powerful, or even responsible for my existance, a being/beings may be, they are still nothing more than advanced life forms with egos. If they demand worship, they do not deserve it. If they exact revenge they deserve active resistance. If they have no concern for me they are no concern of mine. And if they wish to help, I will accept it so long as the price is one I'm willing to pay and does not involve loss of free will. But most of all, I "worship" no one.
The difference is that scientists attempt to disprove those theories, and when they do, after sufficient evidence is presented actually change their theories.
Creationists, not only failt to attempt to disprove their own theories, they actively reject any evidence presented that disproves it.
In short, scientists want to acquire more knowledge to better understand the world around them even if it means shattering their world view (ignoring the inertia of their ego of course).
Creationists seek to maintain the status quo at all costs. They too have the inertia of ego but they also have no desire to obtain or consider any knowledge that would shatter their world view.
The problem is "God made the world in 7 days" is not as simple as it sound because there are a ton of implications to the concept of "god", in omnicient and omnipotent entity of unknown origin, location, or form that communicates with only a select few, one at a time, takes direct action in our lives (so called miracles as well as tragedy), and has a plan (heaven, hell, nirvana, reincarnation, etc) for our souls (another unseen, untestable, "entity") after death.
Or... a few simple rules concerning evolution/survival of the fittest that result in complex systems over long Long LONG periods of time.
You see, science actually has come up with simple explanations (evolution), but they explain something very complex. Religion has come up with very complex explanations, for something that is very "simple"
Ditto for unRAID. Simplest description, JBOD with a parity disc. It is "more" than that but not much. Then again, that makes it:
-simple -hardware agnostic -cheap -minimum hardware requirements -low power -easily expandable (think heterogenous drives that can also be swapped with a larger drive when needed) -excellent community support -files on drives are independantly readable even if the array is broken -non-proprietary ReiserFS, readable even on a windows machine with free driver -expandable to 20 data drive array (read 40 TB using 2tb drives)
Cons: - not amazingly fast but WAY faster than a DROBO (saturate a 1gbit line)... fast enough to serve multiple HD video streams - only beta supports 3TB drives at the moment
ahh I see what you are saying. "All the cars starts in the same order" was not clear and made it sound like you meant for the entire heat they are always in the same order. Perhaps, "all the cars cross the finish line in the same order they started" would have been easier for me to understand.
but too expensive to give to every driver and since newbies can walk on the day of the event the club would also need a good number of "loaner" units. Much like they do with loaner helmets.
Except for reruns, double driver cars, novices (or experts) who are late / get into the wrong grid slot. You can't assume the order is always the same.
You do realize it is very easy to tell which android version is more current then the other right? It is called the Alphabet... and it has a specific order. I leave the rest as an exercise for the reader.
And yet the iOS is being ousold by the Android OS... hmmm
Mind you I'm still pissed at the current official android update ecosystem because I think it is a shitty way to run it. Then again I am pleased as peach that I'm able to take matters into my own hands and update my phone with CyanogenMod. But damn it I want my cake AND I want to eat it too;-)
Oh bullshit. I'm a dyed in the wool Android fan boy who wouldn't own an Apple Product if you gave it to me. But even I am a bit frustrated by the poor track record. Like it or not the current state of android deployment is a drag on development. I'm not saying it needs to be 100% homogonous like iOS because I know there is a cost (loss of control) that I'm not willing to pay. But to claim that the system as it stands is necessary and sufficient is simply short sighted.
Oh and furth up the thread: updates are not "bonuses" so long as there are security threats and bugs.
The problem here is that the carriers and device makers have not realized that like it or not they are no longer selling appliances that are sell-and-forget. They are selling a computing device, and people have an expectation that computing devices have a certain levels of ongoing support. Especially if the damn thing is still being sold.
Sadly, your reason for "jest" is less disturbing than your second to last reason. Easy solution: show your landlord your "christian bookmarks"... see, even god loves the innertubes;-)
Inflation is a great way to make that happen. Usually the government forgets to include the insideous impact of inflation when making policy (think AMT), in this case that would be a good thing. Whatever calculations are used for student loans / maximums, simply STOP allowing for increases. Freeze all funding at current levels and then allow inflation to slowly chip away at the impact those loans have on the economic decisions made by the schools and the students.
Want to accelerate it... then reduce the levels by a % of inflation. No inflation/deflation, no cut. 4% inflation + (25% * 4%) = 1% cut.
PS: if there are no actual maximums, then create some at say the 75th-percentile of all loans given, and don't adjust them for inflation.
Compared to "click here to protect from Virus" this is much slightly harder to socially engineer someone into turning off their computer [this may or may not be a requirement], cracking the case, and then to flip a switch. And it also slows the infection process way down. No more spreading by the speed of email or web surfing.
For us geeks, we'll just rig up the switch to operate from outside the case to save us the hassle of pulling a cover:)
Your decision to stop producing servers is certainly yours to make. However, the day may come you need cash flow to pay the rent, or run the risk of losing customers who NEED more servers NOW and are willing to purchase elsewhere. At that point you might have no choice but to spend more for drives, and then charge more for your servers. That is called business. But right now all I hear is emotion. Again, your business to run, but let's not pretend that at some point you are biting off your nose to spite your face.
As for Dell and HP putting on the pressure... you are right... and that is how IT IS SUPPOSED TO WORK. Competing pressures to find an equilibrium that matches the market conditions. You say little ol' you can't put the pressure on, but rest assured a thousand little ol' you's are having to making similar decisions as you and at some point the HD suppliers do notice their aggregate profit dropping as volume decreases overwhelm profit margin increases. Then they will adjust prices to stay at the peak of the price/profit curve.
Count me another huge unRAID fan. ZFS has its pluses but the one thing it does not have is the dead simple ease with which to add storage capacity. Yes yes yes I've seen how it is done with ZFS, even played with it myself, but it is NOT the same, it is NOT as seamless, it is NOT as simple. With unRAID I add a drive and that is basically it. It just starts saving data to it as if it were a JBOD.
DROBO came out and I thought that was my solution, then I saw the price tag, the speed, the proprietary FS and then I waited. Then I mucked about with FreeNAS and zfs but found it more than I needed, and frankly more of a hassle to upgrade over time than I wanted to deal with for a home NAS. Finally I found unRaid and I have been there ever since. Now I use it as my torrent store, and as a backup to my PC's data and system images. It uses very little power due to the very low end hardware specs needed. Truth be told it is likely overpowered for my needs but I used the mb/cpu I had on hand. It is also compeltely hardware independant so if my MB/SATA card craps out I can swap in anything and be ready to go in short order. Hardware RAID was never an option for me for exactly that reason.
unRaid does a few things very well and those few things are what I had been looking for for a very long time. It is fast enough to saturate my 1Gbit network connection and I have watched it protect my data through several test drive "failures". All the extra features of ZFS solutions are not worth the hassle. The extra data integrity is not worth the hassle. For my truly critical data (photos, letters, etc.. not my torrents) I already have stored on my PC, an extrenal HD, unRAID, and an FTP server on the other side of the country. ZFS's extra data integrity isn't something I need fo my usage. Even for a small biz I would likely still use unRAID for onsite local mass storage. But as soon as it is accessed by the outside as part of my business' product, well then yeah unRAID is NOT the solution I would choose for a ton of reasons. But for basic local storage with moderate speed, parity protection, ease of management, cost, flexibility... unRAID is tops in my book.
Nothing stops those other publishers from offering similar terms as Amazon. Well, sheer greed and stupidity does, but nothing else. It isn't like amazon actually has some huge advantage. Those publishing houses still have quite the shoe-in on distribution, marketing, editing etc. They just need to reexamine their business methods. Maybe they could even patent the new method;-) j/k
Um... yes it is based on the costs to license the streaming rights vs buying + shipping a DVD. At least according to most "pundits" and I believe even Netflix itself (no, I don't have a citation because I'm lazy;) )
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What if a radio magically appeared on the side walk (public property) powered by batteries (a power cord goes to private property) playing the radio loud enough for all to hear? Oh and best be sure to wipe all fingerprints off (to include those batteries).
I should have been more clear ... my point isn't about the priests, but about faith based, non-scientific explanations for the world around us. Priests often use them, and people who use them are often priests. Some priests likely do still attempt to seek true knowledge and search for rational explanations for the world around us. But, if I happen across a random religious figure on the street, odds are against them having an open and honest discussion about the origin and workings of the universe that doesn't turn a blind eye to facts. As you say YMMV but by their very nature as priests they have already "admitted" that at some point their explanation for the universe is "god did it"
You missed his point ... it isn't about what the average android user has blah blah blah ... it is about his specific example where EVEN CHEAPER AND UNSUBSIDIZED his wife STILL isn't as impressed as a the more expensive option with Siri.
In fact, you're being so obtuse you don't even realize that you and tthomas48 AGREE.
If only I had mod points for you Sir.
The difference is that priests hypothesis was actually testable because it made predicitions that could actually be verified or invalidated by experimentation.
No one is saying ignore priests, they are saying ignore people who deal in faith based fantasies that are not even remotely testable or falsafiable. That those people tent to be priests and that priests generally only talk about that type of stuff is the cruch of the arguement.
As I have gotten older (39), my ego has waxed and waned, my experiences have broadened, I've had many a debate with family, friends and acquaintences, and I've thought about the topic and at this point in time my feelings on the subject are:
Politically: I'm nearly a militant athiest, keep your "beliefs" the hell out of my life. I live in an observable testable world of logic.
Intellectually: I ackowledge that I can't KNOW either way, but I also have yet to see any evidence even hinting at the existance of a god(s)
Personally: I do not care because I do not believe it/they are worthy of worship, give a shit about me, or play any part in the short or long term outcome of my life.
In true nerd fashion, Stargate really had a huge impact on crystalizing thoughts that were rattling around in my head back in my 20's. In the end, no matter how powerful, or even responsible for my existance, a being/beings may be, they are still nothing more than advanced life forms with egos. If they demand worship, they do not deserve it. If they exact revenge they deserve active resistance. If they have no concern for me they are no concern of mine. And if they wish to help, I will accept it so long as the price is one I'm willing to pay and does not involve loss of free will. But most of all, I "worship" no one.
The difference is that scientists attempt to disprove those theories, and when they do, after sufficient evidence is presented actually change their theories.
Creationists, not only failt to attempt to disprove their own theories, they actively reject any evidence presented that disproves it.
In short, scientists want to acquire more knowledge to better understand the world around them even if it means shattering their world view (ignoring the inertia of their ego of course).
Creationists seek to maintain the status quo at all costs. They too have the inertia of ego but they also have no desire to obtain or consider any knowledge that would shatter their world view.
The problem is "God made the world in 7 days" is not as simple as it sound because there are a ton of implications to the concept of "god", in omnicient and omnipotent entity of unknown origin, location, or form that communicates with only a select few, one at a time, takes direct action in our lives (so called miracles as well as tragedy), and has a plan (heaven, hell, nirvana, reincarnation, etc) for our souls (another unseen, untestable, "entity") after death.
Or ... a few simple rules concerning evolution/survival of the fittest that result in complex systems over long Long LONG periods of time.
You see, science actually has come up with simple explanations (evolution), but they explain something very complex. Religion has come up with very complex explanations, for something that is very "simple"
Ditto for unRAID. Simplest description, JBOD with a parity disc. It is "more" than that but not much. Then again, that makes it:
-simple
-hardware agnostic
-cheap
-minimum hardware requirements
-low power
-easily expandable (think heterogenous drives that can also be swapped with a larger drive when needed)
-excellent community support
-files on drives are independantly readable even if the array is broken
-non-proprietary ReiserFS, readable even on a windows machine with free driver
-expandable to 20 data drive array (read 40 TB using 2tb drives)
Cons: ... fast enough to serve multiple HD video streams
- not amazingly fast but WAY faster than a DROBO (saturate a 1gbit line)
- only beta supports 3TB drives at the moment
ahh I see what you are saying. "All the cars starts in the same order" was not clear and made it sound like you meant for the entire heat they are always in the same order. Perhaps, "all the cars cross the finish line in the same order they started" would have been easier for me to understand.
but too expensive to give to every driver and since newbies can walk on the day of the event the club would also need a good number of "loaner" units. Much like they do with loaner helmets.
Because you know nothing. Most systems are too expensive for grassroots racing, even your so called "cheap solutions".
Racers want to know their time when they cross the line or very soon after, not after their heat / event. The system needs to be reasonably realtime.
Except for reruns, double driver cars, novices (or experts) who are late / get into the wrong grid slot. You can't assume the order is always the same.
You do realize it is very easy to tell which android version is more current then the other right? It is called the Alphabet ... and it has a specific order. I leave the rest as an exercise for the reader.
And yet the iOS is being ousold by the Android OS ... hmmm
Mind you I'm still pissed at the current official android update ecosystem because I think it is a shitty way to run it. Then again I am pleased as peach that I'm able to take matters into my own hands and update my phone with CyanogenMod. But damn it I want my cake AND I want to eat it too ;-)
Oh bullshit. I'm a dyed in the wool Android fan boy who wouldn't own an Apple Product if you gave it to me. But even I am a bit frustrated by the poor track record. Like it or not the current state of android deployment is a drag on development. I'm not saying it needs to be 100% homogonous like iOS because I know there is a cost (loss of control) that I'm not willing to pay. But to claim that the system as it stands is necessary and sufficient is simply short sighted.
Oh and furth up the thread: updates are not "bonuses" so long as there are security threats and bugs.
The problem here is that the carriers and device makers have not realized that like it or not they are no longer selling appliances that are sell-and-forget. They are selling a computing device, and people have an expectation that computing devices have a certain levels of ongoing support. Especially if the damn thing is still being sold.
Sadly, your reason for "jest" is less disturbing than your second to last reason. Easy solution: show your landlord your "christian bookmarks" ... see, even god loves the innertubes ;-)
Inflation is a great way to make that happen. Usually the government forgets to include the insideous impact of inflation when making policy (think AMT), in this case that would be a good thing. Whatever calculations are used for student loans / maximums, simply STOP allowing for increases. Freeze all funding at current levels and then allow inflation to slowly chip away at the impact those loans have on the economic decisions made by the schools and the students.
Want to accelerate it ... then reduce the levels by a % of inflation. No inflation/deflation, no cut. 4% inflation + (25% * 4%) = 1% cut.
PS: if there are no actual maximums, then create some at say the 75th-percentile of all loans given, and don't adjust them for inflation.
So ... it isn't 100% effective so lets not do it?
Compared to "click here to protect from Virus" this is much slightly harder to socially engineer someone into turning off their computer [this may or may not be a requirement], cracking the case, and then to flip a switch. And it also slows the infection process way down. No more spreading by the speed of email or web surfing.
For us geeks, we'll just rig up the switch to operate from outside the case to save us the hassle of pulling a cover :)
Your decision to stop producing servers is certainly yours to make. However, the day may come you need cash flow to pay the rent, or run the risk of losing customers who NEED more servers NOW and are willing to purchase elsewhere. At that point you might have no choice but to spend more for drives, and then charge more for your servers. That is called business. But right now all I hear is emotion. Again, your business to run, but let's not pretend that at some point you are biting off your nose to spite your face.
As for Dell and HP putting on the pressure ... you are right ... and that is how IT IS SUPPOSED TO WORK. Competing pressures to find an equilibrium that matches the market conditions. You say little ol' you can't put the pressure on, but rest assured a thousand little ol' you's are having to making similar decisions as you and at some point the HD suppliers do notice their aggregate profit dropping as volume decreases overwhelm profit margin increases. Then they will adjust prices to stay at the peak of the price/profit curve.
"We have a recording of your voice eminating from your Skype call at the IP assigned to your modem ... muwahahahahaha"
ring ring ring ... ... ... ... ... ...
"Hello."
"Hello? Is there anyone there?"
"We know what you downloaded last summer!!!"
Count me another huge unRAID fan. ZFS has its pluses but the one thing it does not have is the dead simple ease with which to add storage capacity. Yes yes yes I've seen how it is done with ZFS, even played with it myself, but it is NOT the same, it is NOT as seamless, it is NOT as simple. With unRAID I add a drive and that is basically it. It just starts saving data to it as if it were a JBOD.
DROBO came out and I thought that was my solution, then I saw the price tag, the speed, the proprietary FS and then I waited. Then I mucked about with FreeNAS and zfs but found it more than I needed, and frankly more of a hassle to upgrade over time than I wanted to deal with for a home NAS. Finally I found unRaid and I have been there ever since. Now I use it as my torrent store, and as a backup to my PC's data and system images. It uses very little power due to the very low end hardware specs needed. Truth be told it is likely overpowered for my needs but I used the mb/cpu I had on hand. It is also compeltely hardware independant so if my MB/SATA card craps out I can swap in anything and be ready to go in short order. Hardware RAID was never an option for me for exactly that reason.
unRaid does a few things very well and those few things are what I had been looking for for a very long time. It is fast enough to saturate my 1Gbit network connection and I have watched it protect my data through several test drive "failures". All the extra features of ZFS solutions are not worth the hassle. The extra data integrity is not worth the hassle. For my truly critical data (photos, letters, etc.. not my torrents) I already have stored on my PC, an extrenal HD, unRAID, and an FTP server on the other side of the country. ZFS's extra data integrity isn't something I need fo my usage. Even for a small biz I would likely still use unRAID for onsite local mass storage. But as soon as it is accessed by the outside as part of my business' product, well then yeah unRAID is NOT the solution I would choose for a ton of reasons. But for basic local storage with moderate speed, parity protection, ease of management, cost, flexibility ... unRAID is tops in my book.
Nothing stops those other publishers from offering similar terms as Amazon. Well, sheer greed and stupidity does, but nothing else. It isn't like amazon actually has some huge advantage. Those publishing houses still have quite the shoe-in on distribution, marketing, editing etc. They just need to reexamine their business methods. Maybe they could even patent the new method ;-) j/k
Um ... yes it is based on the costs to license the streaming rights vs buying + shipping a DVD. At least according to most "pundits" and I believe even Netflix itself (no, I don't have a citation because I'm lazy ;) )