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Ask Slashdot: DD-WRT Upgrade To 802.11n?

First time accepted submitter krinderlin writes "My home network consists of a Linksys WRT54GL for WAN access and a WRT54G version 8 for a wireless bridge for my Blu-Ray and old XBox 360*. Due to a recent move and coaxial jack placements, I can't run Ethernet to the office, so I'm now looking at about 8 wireless clients at any given time. I'd like to start piecing together a network upgrade to 802.11n, but want to keep the flexibility and power of DD-WRT. So what 802.11n routers do you have with DD-WRT? What would you recommend for PCIe x1 and USB adapters? *Because $100 for a 802.11g adapter is pure insanity."

196 comments

  1. Great experience with Asus RT-N16 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Quite a powerful router, I use it heavily for my VPN. It also allows you to upgrade to DD-WRT right through their interface.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320038&Tpk=asus%20rt-n16

    1. Re:Great experience with Asus RT-N16 by AdamJS · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It should be noted right away that the RT-N16 is only a single-band router, which could be make or break for many people. I use one, the thing is designed for custom firmware. But if you have to use the stock firmware for more than an hour, submitter would go insane.

    2. Re:Great experience with Asus RT-N16 by omnichad · · Score: 1

      I have one using Tomato, and I love it. I was a huge fan of DD-WRT, but the simplicity of Tomato won me over. It has plenty of power for me, and the UI is pretty. It handles torrents very well since it's pretty well loaded with RAM.

      Having N at only 150mbps wasn't a dealbreaker for me. Wireless is just more reliable with multiple antennae.

    3. Re:Great experience with Asus RT-N16 by almostinsane · · Score: 0

      Why not just get a few MoCA adapters? Way better than Wifi for streaming and access.

    4. Re:Great experience with Asus RT-N16 by PhracturedBlue · · Score: 1

      Agreed. I've had my RT-N16 for about a year. It is great with DD-WRT (I guess it supports Tomato, but I haven't had a need to upgrade). I did have problems with mine overheating (not overclocked or anything), but some left over heatsink coolers from way-back and an ancient graphics-card cooling fan completely fixed the issue for me.

      The RT-N16 seems to have some quality control issues, but for the price, there was nothing better when I bought mine. There may be better options now though.

    5. Re:Great experience with Asus RT-N16 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is a better resource for answering the question:

      http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan

    6. Re:Great experience with Asus RT-N16 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I really liked my RT-N16 while it still worked. Thing ran hotter than I believe it should have though, and one day it just stopped powering on entirely.

    7. Re:Great experience with Asus RT-N16 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll chime in with a vote for the RT-N16 as well. It's been running my network for almost a year now and I've never *had* to reboot it. All the reboots I've put it through were due to me tinkering around trying to make it do things no one would have imagined it should do. (If you want gspca webcam drivers for it, let me know :) )

    8. Re:Great experience with Asus RT-N16 by dintech · · Score: 1

      Wireless is just more reliable with multiple antennae.

      Indeed, I noticed that my old two-antennae router had trouble reaching my dungeon downstairs. The undeclared members of my family could only get intermittent reception. Now they can access youtube and email from this remote part of the house and I don't get so many complaints.

    9. Re:Great experience with Asus RT-N16 by g4pengts · · Score: 1

      The RT-N16 requires cooling from below. If you can find some sort of rack that raises it above the surface then it should have no issue with cooling. I put mine on a wire oven rack and it has works fine for many months now.

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    10. Re:Great experience with Asus RT-N16 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use one, the thing is designed for custom firmware. But if you have to use the stock firmware for more than an hour, submitter would go insane.

      Asus seems to be trying to improve their firmware, a new beta version (7.0.2.38b) was released earlier this month.

    11. Re:Great experience with Asus RT-N16 by gothzilla · · Score: 1

      RT-N16 all the way. I have plaster walls in my house (the kind held up by perforated metal sheets which make excellent faraday cages) and couldn't get wireless through. Got this router specifically because it had 3 removable antennae. Threw on some monster 12db antennae, loaded DD-WRT, tweaked a few settings and poof I had wireless through the whole house. The antennae I got had super long cables on them so it made finding the perfect placement easy.

    12. Re:Great experience with Asus RT-N16 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I feel obligated to chime in here.

      I bought an RT-N16 from Newegg in May, and it's been a pain in the neck since. It drops my clients, streaming video or transferring large files wirelessly brings the whole network to a halt. I had the same problems when using the stock firmware, and half a dozen versions of dd-wrt and tomato(-usb, etc.)

      Given that others seem to have no problems with it, I assumed I had a defective unit and sent it back to Asus for repairs.

      I don't recommend buying stuff like this from Newegg. Get it on Amazon; their return policy is much better. If I'd have gotten it on Amazon, I could've just had them send me a new one and sent this one back. Instead, I have to wait two weeks while Asus figures out what's wrong with it.

    13. Re:Great experience with Asus RT-N16 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've not had the greatest experience with the RT-N16 and DD-WRT. The reason I bought the router was to run DD-WRT and support multiple SSIDs with different security settings (WEP for a couple of older devices and WPA2 for everything else). I've tried several (stable and non-stable) builds and the wireless signal has not been reliable. This may only be an issue with my particular configuration, but I would recommend reading the forums on the DD-WRT website for this router to get a sense if others have been successful with the configuration you intend (or are currently running).

    14. Re:Great experience with Asus RT-N16 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It looks like that router is only compatible with draft-n.

  2. lmgtfy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    uh hmm check their hw database to see if they support hw with 11n radios?
    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=dd-wrt+11n+radio

    1. Re:lmgtfy by krinderlin · · Score: 1

      Yes, but as I've seen from experience working with a friend's D-Link router, "Supported" on the database does not always equate to "Good Experience".

    2. Re:lmgtfy by Ultra64 · · Score: 1

      Confirmed for not paying attention.

      He already knows they support 802.11n, he's asking which router is the best one.

  3. WNDR3700v2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    This router is an absolut beast in terms of range and throughput. The DD-WRT support is terrific and the device is rather cheap.

    If you do not absolutely need 450 Mbit/s, but are satisfied with 300 Mbit/s, go with the WNDR3700v2

    1. Re:WNDR3700v2 by dintech · · Score: 1

      Have you tried HomePlug instead of wifi? I find the bandwidth to be a big improvement over wifi. I can at least max out my 50Mb cable connection and no ethernet cables running through the house.

    2. Re:WNDR3700v2 by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2

      Have you tried HomePlug instead of wifi? I find the bandwidth to be a big improvement over wifi. I can at least max out my 50Mb cable connection and no ethernet cables running through the house.

      I use HomePlug in my neighborhood network. The version 2 stuff (is that 'AV'?) is really good - v1, not so much. I get about 50Mbps between a garage and the house's basement, and didn't have to dig new conduit, so totally worth the price (I think those were Netgear too). It sits behind a 40Mbps VDSL link, so plenty.

      I get complaints from my wife about having to plug in the laptop to recharge it, so different use cases - she's not plugging in to surf Facebook. My house has Cat5e haphazardly for access points, and I was going to do more HomePlug for, e.g. Roku, but 802.11 turned out to be good enough, so that was easy to not buy.

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    3. Re:WNDR3700v2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could you please point to the WRT How-To for installing on the Netgear N600 Wireless Dual Band Gigabit Router WNDR3700?

      I have multiple WRT54G and I have been having a terroble problem with Microwave oven interference. Any giuesses as to whether this device will improve the situation?

      Thank you!

    4. Re:WNDR3700v2 by dintech · · Score: 1

      I know exactly what you mean, I upgraded to the newer netgear HD 500mb kit from 100mb belkin stuff. I used to get dropped connections that could only be fixed with a restart of the hardware but that has all now more reliable (and faster).

    5. Re:WNDR3700v2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can it stop the CIA?
      Also, will it blend?

    6. Re:WNDR3700v2 by blair1q · · Score: 1

      Any chance they'll start geeking out over the WNDR4000?

      It'd be fun to hack it onto mine myself, but it would also be a lot of time I don't have.

      Oh, I suppose I could stop reading /.

      And I suppose I would, once I bricked my router...

    7. Re:WNDR3700v2 by blair1q · · Score: 1

      HomePlug is usable, but it's comparatively underpowered. Good wireless speeds are now 300-450 mbps.

    8. Re:WNDR3700v2 by NitroWolf · · Score: 2

      Check out the WNDR3700v2. The folks doing serious research into home network performance have settled on this unit. Check out the prices on Amazon's refurbished stock - equivalent to what I was paying for 54GL's back in the day. I picked up a new for the office and a refurb for home.

      They have lots of RAM, a decent processor, and dual-band radios. I think it's the 54G for the new decade.

      Since the OP is intending to run DD-WRT on it, it doesn't really matter... but this router is a piece o' crap with the stock firmware. The external drive function has never worked properly, Netgear has known about the bug and never bothered to fix it. The drive(s) will go offline for no explicable reason and require a power cycle. If you aren't using that portion of the router, it's probably fine, but since I purchased this router for my parents house and purchased it explicitly for the extra drive connectivity, I am rather displeased. A quick scan of the Netgear forums reveals that it's a known issue, many people have it, Netgear just doesn't care and won't issue a fix for it.

      Netgear can go piss up a pole.

    9. Re:WNDR3700v2 by AdamWill · · Score: 1

      I tried homeplug for a while. It was nice and fast, compared to 2.4GHz wireless at least, but it corrupted data: about half of my large file downloads wound up corrupted. I'd download a 4GB ISO and find it didn't match the sha256sum, re-download it and it'd be okay.

      Never happened on the same systems since I ditched the homeplug and just ran an ethernet cable across the ceiling to the router, so it was definitely the homeplug screwing it up. Mine are now collecting dust...

    10. Re:WNDR3700v2 by mattventura · · Score: 1

      Those are the theoretical speeds. You never get anywhere near that under normal circumstances.

    11. Re:WNDR3700v2 by mattventura · · Score: 1

      It's really hit or miss. I find that when I have two homeplug endpoints on the same breaker circuit, I can get a solid 100mbps. On different circuits, I get 1-2mbps. Homeplug just varies too much between manufacturers and home wiring. If you find a homeplug product that works for you, go for it. Just don't expect it to be the best solution 100% of the time.

    12. Re:WNDR3700v2 by pointbeing · · Score: 1

      If the homeplug nodes are on opposite sides of the breaker box your signal goes through the transformer on the pole down the street.

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    13. Re:WNDR3700v2 by pointbeing · · Score: 1

      ps - I use homeplug *and* WDS at the house - mainly because there are three walls and a floor between my home router and the rack where directv/PS3/xbox lives. There is a WDS node in the kitchen one floor below the my router and another one in my bedroom feeding a directv receiver. This is a fairly new house and the spousal unit won't allow me to pull wire through her walls.

      Yet. ;-)

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    14. Re:WNDR3700v2 by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Sounds just like the Linksys firmrware on the 54G.

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  4. WNDR-3700v2 by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Netgear WNDR-3700v2 is powerful, reasonably cheap, and well-supported. It also is the target of the CeroWRT project, which deals with bufferbloat, and should be of interest to advanced users at this point. Bufferbloat changes are also being adopted into stock OpenWRT and the Linux kernel, so eventually will make it to more routers.

    1. Re:WNDR-3700v2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Netgear WNDR-3700v2 is powerful, reasonably cheap, and well-supported. It also is the target of the CeroWRT project, which deals with bufferbloat, and should be of interest to advanced users at this point. Bufferbloat changes are also being adopted into stock OpenWRT and the Linux kernel, so eventually will make it to more routers.

      +1 to this router. I have two of these and they are great units. I see several other comments making the same recommendation and they are not wrong!

    2. Re:WNDR-3700v2 by wilson_c · · Score: 1

      I agree this is an excellent router, especially for DD-WRT. I would warn prospective buyers that the radios have had an alarmingly high failure rate in a pretty short time. I've had clients who have experienced this repeatedly and have found plenty of additional corroboration of this experience from others online. That said, if you can get hardware that does not suffer this defect, you'll no doubt be very happy with it.

    3. Re:WNDR-3700v2 by AdamWill · · Score: 1

      I mostly agree, except I found it to have infuriating reliability issues compared to my old router, a WRT-310N. Every so often - say, once or twice a day - it'd just stop passing traffic to/from the WAN for a minute or two. No rhyme nor reason, no useful info in the control panel or logs; the traffic just went into a black hole. My 310N never, ever did this.

      I eventually wound up running (and am still running) a dumb-but-works combination of the WNDR-3700v2, using its native firmware, acting purely as a wireless bridge, with the 310N doing all the routing, with its wireless adapter disabled. That gets me the wireless abilities of the 3700 (so I run 802.11n on the 5GHz band and g on the 2.4GHz band for compatibility with devices that can't handle n-on-5) with the reliability for routing purposes of the 310N.

      I haven't managed to find any dd-wrt supported, dual-band, gigabit router which is less problematic than the 3700, so I'm not sure a perfect answer to the OP's question exists, at least at present.

    4. Re:WNDR-3700v2 by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 1

      Try OpenWRT. It might have some bug fixes missing from DD-WRT. It has the advantage of being fully Open Source, while DD-WRT wants you to pay for some features and some platforms. The development version runs well and is updated continuously. It has so many packages that it looks like a desktop/server Linux distribution. It seems to be directed at a more advanced user.

    5. Re:WNDR-3700v2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I picked up one of these and tried installing CeroWRT rc6. I got as far as a successful (according to my tftp client) tftp put. But then... nothing happens. I've followed up in the IRC channel with zero responses. I looked for a mailing list but didn't see one. The router is still running default firmware, and I'm wondering what to do next.

  5. WNDR3700v2 by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2

    Check out the WNDR3700v2. The folks doing serious research into home network performance have settled on this unit. Check out the prices on Amazon's refurbished stock - equivalent to what I was paying for 54GL's back in the day. I picked up a new for the office and a refurb for home.

    They have lots of RAM, a decent processor, and dual-band radios. I think it's the 54G for the new decade.

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    My God, it's Full of Source!
    OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
  6. Linksys by gshegosh · · Score: 1

    I had WRT300N for a dozen of months or so, it worked fine. Since few weeks ago I'm using E4200 which is dual band and cannot complain.

    1. Re:Linksys by LoSt180 · · Score: 1

      I have an E3000 which is simultaneous Dual-Band, has Gig-E ports, and a USB port that can be used to set up a file share or a network printer. I have my Vizio internet TV and an HTPC connected to the 5GHz radio, and am able to stream Netflix and 720p video files off a file server just fine. All the other devices use the 2.4GHz band.

  7. Check the list by DreddUK · · Score: 1

    Could you not just check the list here:

    http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices

    and go with your favourite supplier of quality hardware? Also, bear in mind that some of your connected equipment isn't and can't be N-enabled (PS3 it think from memory). Therefore, you'll want something that can gracefully handle both G and N at the same time (ideally as separately configured wireless networks).

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    1. Re:Check the list by krinderlin · · Score: 2

      The plan is to find a Firmware that supports making the extra router into a wireless bridge and run Ethernet from XBox 360 and Blu-Ray to a second router acting as a bridge and forwarding DHCP and what-not back and forth. As I've stated before, "Supported" does not mean "Good experience". I've seen that database burn plenty of people. :-)

    2. Re:Check the list by JimMcc · · Score: 1

      Because he isn't looking for a compatibility list. krinderlin said "So what 802.11n routers do you have with DD-WRT? What would you recommend for PCIe x1 and USB adapters?" Notice that he said "what ... do you have ..." not what will work with.

    3. Re:Check the list by harrkev · · Score: 1

      Maybe because that list is full of routers that are old and not currently available from places like Best Buy and Newegg. Knowing that DD-WRT works great on a router that I cannot actually buy is pretty useless. Also, many routers have multiple versions, and DD-WRT only works on some of them. Yes, that list would have what you need, but the work needed to go though the list to find something easily available would be a LOT of work.

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  8. WNDR3700 by thue · · Score: 1

    I have seen the WNDR3700 recommended as being a good option. The hardware itself is relatively powerful, with a 680MHz processor, 64MiB RAM, and 8MiB flash. The 4 internal+1 external RJ-45 ports are gigabit. It costs US$120 from Newegg.com .

    1. Re:WNDR3700 by bn-7bc · · Score: 0

      hmm I wonder if the back-plain and cpu actualy can manage 4+ Gbps, has anyone actually tested this under full load on all ports?

    2. Re:WNDR3700 by clarkn0va · · Score: 1

      hmm I wonder if the back-plain and cpu actualy can manage 4+ Gbps

      The switch? Maybe. The CPU? Not a chance.

      No, I haven't tested this model, but I've test-driven enough routers to know that a 680 MHz processor isn't going to route even 1 gbps.

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    3. Re:WNDR3700 by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      No, the backplane can not handle 4Gbps, however it can handle a smidge over 1Gbps sustained throughput based on the tests I ran. One thing it does not handle particularly well is ARP table exhaustion in a very short time window. Of course I was cheating to do this (http://www.ecrunch.com/listing/Spirent_Netcom_SmartBits_SMB-200_200_w__2x_Spirent_Netcom_SmartBits_ML-7710_10_1.html). Sending random MAC and IP addresses as source and destination, at wire rate (with 4 1Gbps blades), with minimum IPG and random payload data. I've seen carrier class equipment buckle under proportionally equal loads (Cisco Cat 12K with all ports maxed out incl. ATM links).

      All in all I like this little router, and it's what I use. I have a somewhat aggressive home network and it seems to hold up nicely.
      -nB

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  9. D-Link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I use a D-Link DIR-825 for my home network. DD-WRT can be flashed to it and it runs dual band which is a HUGE deal for me in an apartment setting. Works great!

  10. $20 USB Wireless Adapters by earls · · Score: 2
  11. Yes you can by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, you CAN run ethernet anywhere you want. I'm guessing that you just don't want to. You can always place it along baseboards, you don't have to drill through walls and floors/ceilings.

    1. Re:Yes you can by jbigboote · · Score: 1

      well there are limits on the length of runs before you need to add a switch. back when I made CAT5 twisted-pair copper runs by hand, 100 meters was the limit. not sure if that has changed with CAT6

    2. Re:Yes you can by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's still 100M.

    3. Re:Yes you can by krinderlin · · Score: 1

      Grammar Police just dropped off my citation. :-)

      Yes, I won't run Ethernet. I have pets. Short some interesting routing requiring in length ten times the line of sight distance, running Ethernet is just ugly. If I run it across a door way, there shll be tripping, and crazy cats, and curious dogs causing me all sorts of grief. Also, it's likely to freak out our highly Conservative, Bible Thumping, Internet-is-for-porn-and-porn-alone landlord.

      "THEY HAVE WIRES HANGING OFF THE CEILING RUNNING FROM THIS BOX TO THAT BOX!!! THEY'RE TERRORISTS!!!"

      The last reason is purely in jest and really isn't the deciding factor.

    4. Re:Yes you can by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't let him know the wifi is whats causing his headaches:) (and perhaps visions of Yeshua

    5. Re:Yes you can by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 1

      OK, if you're renting I can understand the reluctance to actually pull the cable everywhere.

      But IMO, finding creative ways of getting the cable all the places you want is a fun exercise and a great way to learn about the nooks and crannies of your house. Also an excuse to get fish tape, a cable stapler, nifty plumb-bob things and especially a fishing reel/dart gun combination dingus.

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    6. Re:Yes you can by krinderlin · · Score: 1

      That does sound fun. ^_^

    7. Re:Yes you can by Capt.DrumkenBum · · Score: 1

      a fishing reel/dart gun combination dingus

      I like using my crossbow for this. Although I do get some funny looks when I bring it in to work. :)

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    8. Re:Yes you can by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      The dart guns are especially fun. Think of a spring loaded gun that has a fishing reel on it. It shoots about 200 ft, then you can draw it in making cats go nuts. :)

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    9. Re:Yes you can by Jumperalex · · Score: 1

      Sadly, your reason for "jest" is less disturbing than your second to last reason. Easy solution: show your landlord your "christian bookmarks" ... see, even god loves the innertubes ;-)

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    10. Re:Yes you can by element-o.p. · · Score: 1

      Technically, you are correct, although that's sometimes easier said than done. I'd guess that you probably have never had to wire up a house like mine. I live in a log home that was built in the '70s. Running CAT-5 between drywall panels is no big deal, if you have the tools (fish tape, a long, long drill bit if you want to go between floors, etc.), but running CAT-5 through an already-built log home is a real PITA. Yes, you can just tack the cable to the walls and ceiling, but there are a number of practical reasons not to do that. IME, at least, exposed wiring is much more likely to get damaged than wiring behind a wall. Furthermore, wiring along the floor is likely to be a tripping hazard, and don't forget that there's still a 100m length restriction on CAT-5 cable. My house has three floors, so running cable around all the walls and up all the stairs will eat up 100m a lot faster than you might expect. Also, I'm not sure if you could leave the wires in place when you sell the home, since I found out when I bought my house that any runs of electrical wire (might just be 120v, but I don't know for sure) that is longer than some length (6 feet, IIRC) cannot be left exposed, per the building codes in my area. Finally, tacking wires all over a beautiful log home is just, well, tacky. A married guy (like me) who tried to do something like that wouldn't remain married for long :) Fortunately, WiFi is a much easier, much more aesthetic and suitably workable solution in my neighborhood (not too many neighbors, and generous spacing between the my house and my neighbors).

      For OP, filling all the staple holes that were left when you remove the CAT-5 and repainting the walls so the landlord doesn't keep your deposit might be a factor, too.

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  12. Linksys E3000 by sramsay · · Score: 1

    My Cisco/Linksys E3000 is running DD-WRT v24-sp2.

    1. Re:Linksys E3000 by CimmerianX · · Score: 0

      I have the same model and version. It's been running without issue for about a year or more now.... something like that.

    2. Re:Linksys E3000 by Shouldbeworking · · Score: 1

      You and the parent answer the question exactly and score 0 and 1 respectively. I don't get it.

  13. Any functionality from DD-WRT in particular? by Neil_Brown · · Score: 2

    So what 802.11n routers

    I've ended up replacing most of my previous kit with acquired-from-eBay Apple kit. 802.11n over 5Ghz for some devices, and over 2.4Ghz for others, with fallback to 802.11g for older devices. Airport Extreme for the main routing, with some Airport Express units for the music system. I used one as a wireless bridge for the PS3 for a while, but, since switching to an old Apple TV for playback, everything's streamed fine over Wi-Fi.

    Was there particular functionality you wanted, which led you to DD-WRT? Or might other routers be able to do what it is that you need?

    do you have with DD-WRT?

    None :)

    1. Re:Any functionality from DD-WRT in particular? by krinderlin · · Score: 1

      Primarily:

      1. Ability to auto-update OpenDNS with my ISP assigned IP address
      2. Ability to configure a secondary router to act as a wireless bridge and forward DHCP requests to the primary router
      3. QoS stuff. Haven't used it before, but now that we're exclusively streaming through the XBox or watching OTA HDTV, I'd like to guarantee Netflix and Hulu streams to the TV even when my other half is torrenting por...Linux Distro CDs.

      General reaction is DD-WRT is crappy these days. I don't really know. These 54Gs were flashed some years ago. It's been so long since I've had them that I had to do some searching in my Evernote to find my network docs to get into the routers after we moved. Hence, I haven't even visited the Wiki in years and never visited the forums.

    2. Re:Any functionality from DD-WRT in particular? by afabbro · · Score: 3, Informative

      General reaction is DD-WRT is crappy these days. I don't really know.

      Not only crappy but a fairly evil project as well. Closed source, deceptive project leaders, software activation.

      The tomato project is much better run and does everything that DD-WRT does. I like tomato-USB but there are several other flavors.

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    3. Re:Any functionality from DD-WRT in particular? by krinderlin · · Score: 1

      Thanks!

    4. Re:Any functionality from DD-WRT in particular? by danbob999 · · Score: 1

      You know that many other companies offer what you just described? I don't even get why you story should be any interesting.
      If only you presented the advantages of Apple networking gear and why a DD-Wrt user should switch? I hope you don't think that Apple invented fallback to 802.11g or the 5 GHz band?

      Really I don't understand why you have a +3 score.

    5. Re:Any functionality from DD-WRT in particular? by realityimpaired · · Score: 1

      In that case, get one of these:

      http://www.tp-link.com/simulator/tl-wr1043nd/index.htm

      That's a simulator of the firmware, so you can poke around in it and see what it's capable of. Some of the naming in the firmware is a bit weird, but I speak from experience when I say that it's a very good router: I have two of them that I'm currently using as I type this. One is at a charity I volunteer with, and they haven't had any problems at all since the install, and the other is running my home network.

      Of note, the one that's running my home network has *very* good wireless coverage... good enough that the setup it replaced was actually a router + 2 access points connected by powerline networking between them. The joys of living in a 2800sqft bungalow. I placed it centrally, and it works fine, even having no trouble passing through the kitchen with a 30-year old microwave that I'm too lazy to replace and a hanging ceiling.

      It supports OpenDNS and DynDNS updates (it's updating my own DynDNS account, which I use to SSH in to a local system), and while it supports the ability to configure a secondary router as an access point, as I said, there's no need to configure a bridge like that because the wireless coverage is good enough. It also has support for plugging in a USB hard drive or printer, and sharing it via SAMBA, and again from experience, it gets pretty good throughput on the network hard drive capabilities.

      And as an added bonus, you won't need to void the warranty by installing a 3rd party firmware to get these features. It supports *almost* everything that Tomato supports out of the box. Also, did I mention that it was relatively inexpensive? Mine cost me just over $60 CAD.

    6. Re:Any functionality from DD-WRT in particular? by AdamWill · · Score: 1

      "Was there particular functionality you wanted, which led you to DD-WRT? Or might other routers be able to do what it is that you need?"

      I've found most consumer router firmwares don't support NAT loopback, which I find pretty useful. dd-wrt does.

    7. Re:Any functionality from DD-WRT in particular? by danpritts · · Score: 1

      "software activation" appears to be required for some features, but i've been running dd-wrt for years with no activation. I have the impression that dd-wrt has a wider hardware support base as well.

  14. Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Runs around $80 at most places. Setup is pretty easy and conversion to OpenWRT (which I like better, and seems to be more stable) is very easy.

    1. Re:Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1 for this router. Although I got it mainly to run a gigabit cabled network and the customization as there is loads of extra space on the flash for adding more services.

    2. Re:Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

      +1 for this. OpenWRT is better if you want to do some serious fancy stuff, but if you're not doing anything exotic DD-WRT will do the job and is more convenient. Just keep in mind this model has a problem getting a gigabit link on the WAN port with DD-WRT, probably not a problem for most applications but keep it in mind.

      --
      "When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
    3. Re:Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH by jittles · · Score: 2

      It's practically impossible to get a Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH in this day and age. They are now selling the WZR-HP-G300NH2, even though the box says its just the NH. There is no DD-WRT support to speak of for the NH2, last I checked. But if you use the professional firmware, you can fix the broken NAT Loopback (or lack thereof)

      Just go into the “Administration” menu and the “Commands” submenu. Save the text string below as a “Firewall command.” In other words, paste the command in, and then click the “Save Firewall” button. It will now apply itself after every reboot. Be sure to paste it as a single line. Be sure to change the network (“192.168.1.0) to the appropriate address of your network.

      iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -o br0 -s 192.168.1.0/24 -d 192.168.1.0/24 -j MASQUERADE

    4. Re:Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH by allenw · · Score: 1

      +1 on this one.

      We've been using the Buffalo modified version of DD-WRT for a few months now. It replaced a Linksys E3k that was continually dropping connections. Overall, we're pretty happy with it (QoS, DHCP, etc). I'll definitely check on the link speed, although it is connected to DSL modem that can't do gigabit anyway. :)

    5. Re:Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH by skids · · Score: 1

      Same here. When I actually want an AP, I'll go get something with a 5G antenna. But for wired routing including some more esoteric VPN etc, the extra flash space makes this a great box. Also note: that USB port can indeed support a hub and the usual plethora of Linux drivers, so you can use it for your RF remote, rs232 ports, whatnot. Man was I glad to retire that old whirring laptop.

    6. Re:Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH by Alyred · · Score: 2

      Definitely the one I would suggest as well.
      Or it's dual-band big brother, the AP WZR-HP-AG300H. $89.99 for the router itself at Amazon, oddly enough. Nice little table at the bottom comparing the Buffalo router model features as well at that link.
      Supports DD-WRT out of the box and support by the manufacturer.
      My ONLY complaint is that the radio on my G300NH model is a little bit weaker than my old Linksys routers, since I could boost the signal. I don't think that option works in the firmware on the buffalo, but it might be the difference between the N and G signals that I'm seeing. Still covers my entire house quite well, however, and a little bit outside.

    7. Re:Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH by ne0n · · Score: 1

      Absolutely top notch. I've been running mine for months with Gargoyle Router, a pretty nice upgrade from the standard OpenWRT unless you need to micro every last setting, but then you'd probably ssh and use the shell anyways, right?

      Another superb router is the TP-Link WR1043ND, it's got 8MB flash and is stable after many months of uptime on Gargoyle, even without quite as much raw power as the Buffalo. Both have 32MB of RAM.

      No matter what router you get, try Gargoyle or OpenWRT before settling. DD-WRT isn't what is used to be.

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  15. WRT150N by SJHillman · · Score: 1

    I've installed refurbed Linksys WRT150N routers ($30-$45 each from Tiger) with DD-WRT in several installations now, including my dorm room at college to act as a wireless bridge the campus 802.11n network, my house and my parents house. I get pretty good signal strength between my basement where the router is and my second floor where the office is with only minor tweaking. I don't think they carry the WRT150N anymore, but whatever replaced it in their lineup should work just as well if not better.

  16. Dlink DIR-825 by AnonGCB · · Score: 1

    I've been using one with ddwrt for a while, it was pretty simple to get setup and AFAIK it is fully supported.

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    http://CryoLANparty.com/ A lan I'm staff on!
  17. Netgear WNDR3700 by r6_jason · · Score: 1

    This question was asked before as I recall. I currently use the Netgear WNDR3700 router w/ Firmware: DD-WRT v24-sp2 (06/14/11) std. It's been pretty solid for me. It's dual band(2.4 and 5.0 Ghz) so you can use your current bridges just fine. As far as USB adapters go, I got a few WUSB600N refurbished for around $30 each, though I haven't any issues w/ any of them at all. For laptop upgrades I very much like the Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6230.

  18. TP-Link TL-WR1043ND by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not a network admin or anything, so take my advice with a grain of salt. But I've owned a lot of consumer grade wireless routers over the years, and the TP-Link TL-WR1043ND is the best I've had. Plus it has ready support for DD-WRT. No telnet dance necessary - you can hit the stock firmware's upgrade page, point at the DD-WRT bin, and you're done. It has been a rock-stable router (maybe 1-2 reboots in over a year), has gigabit ethernet, great range (3 big antennas), can't say enough good things about it. It was ~$50 back when I bought it.

    The only potential downer is it isn't dual-band N. If you browse wireless networks at your house and 50 of them pop up, you might want to spring for dual band. I haven't had a problem though.

    1. Re:TP-LINK TL-WR1043ND by cciRRus · · Score: 1

      Which variant of "xWRT" are you referring to? I can only think of OpenWRT and DD-WRT that can be installed on this device.

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      w00t
  19. Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH by Keith+Mickunas · · Score: 1

    I use a WZR-HP-G300NH and it has worked well for me for quite some time. I've probably had it for a good 18 months now. With DD-WRT I am limited to 130mbps instead of 300, but other than that it's rock solid.

  20. Why not ethernet over power line? by pesho · · Score: 1

    I had the same problem a year ago, plus interference from my neighbors routers. I opted for ethernet over power lines. I got a couple of single port netgear XAV101v2s adapters (you can get a pair for $70.99 from newegg) and a 4 port XAV5004 for my home entertainment system. I use the wireless only to hook laptops and cell phones.

    1. Re:Why not ethernet over power line? by dmomo · · Score: 1

      This works well for me as well. The DLink adapters I got can only do 10mbs, though. It's only an issue when I want to transfer large amounts of data to a network share that isn't in the same room.

    2. Re:Why not ethernet over power line? by krinderlin · · Score: 1

      What's the throughput on that? Not the spec stuff, but you're actual experience. I'm planning on going DOCSIS 3.0 also, so I want to be able to take advantage of that.

      Also, am I going to have a mob and angry CB enthusiasts trying to lynch me? :-P

    3. Re:Why not ethernet over power line? by pesho · · Score: 1

      I haven't done proper benchmarking, but you can run an upgrade of Ubuntu, while watching Netflix in HD (both going trough the same EoP device). I have docsis 3 to Comcast (~20Mbit/s download) and I am pretty confident that the home network is not the bottleneck. As 1800maxim pointed out (and this is a common complaint) the throughput may vary depending on the quality of the wiring of the house.

  21. Another vote for the E3000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I picked up the Linksys E3000 about 3 months ago, popped DDWRT on it and it's been rock solid. I even risked it and picked up the recertified version for $65 shipped from Newegg. As long as you're not going more than about 100' or through more than 5 walls you should be ok.

  22. Tomato by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 5, Informative

    DD-WRT development is basically dead. There hasn't been an update on their homepage in over a year.

    There are unofficial builds in the forums, but even those are at this point old. For example, the "Recommended" version for Broadcom-based devices still includes an ANCIENT release of inadyn that doesn't work with most dynamic DNS providers at this point (nearly all implemented SSL security which breaks with older inadyn.)

    Tomato/TomatoUSB are the way to go at this point. (Tomato itself isn't updated much either - TomatoUSB has improved support even for non-USB devices.)

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    retrorocket.o not found, launch anyway?
    1. Re:Tomato by Reapman · · Score: 2

      Another vote for TomatoUSB over DD-WRT - open source and very feature rich. The Asus RT-N16 runs great on Tomato - that's what I use and love it but like mentioned above it's only single band.

    2. Re:Tomato by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tomato does get updated, but not with the frequency of Flash or Java. Also, there are modified versions of Tomato that include 802.11n support. Google for "tomato firmware mods" and you'll find 'em. There might also be a link to them off the main site for Tomato, too.

      DD-WRT is more oriented toward working with some hardware builders and paid subscription users. Free download versions aren't the focus any more. Even the last of the free versions were bloated and locked my router up frequently. Went Tomato and didn't look back.

    3. Re:Tomato by jirikivaari · · Score: 1

      Yep, I second this. Tomato is a good piece of firmware. Easy to install, stable to use and has plenty of features.

    4. Re:Tomato by Frederic54 · · Score: 1

      Absolutely right, I am using Tomato USB on both my WRT160N-v3 and E3000, there is also some interesting "mod" like [i]Toastman[/i] builds.

      I have had a lot of problem with dd-wrt running on a WRT160N-v3, N was dropping about every hours, I tried dozens of build for more than a year before switching to TomatoUSB.

      --
      "Science will win because it works." - Stephen Hawking
    5. Re:Tomato by Frederic54 · · Score: 1

      damn [i]...

      I can add that my E3000 runs flawlessly in ABGN mode, no problem with 2.4GHZ and 5GHz, support USB drive sharing, etc.

      --
      "Science will win because it works." - Stephen Hawking
    6. Re:Tomato by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's also FAR easier to set up the dev environment for Tomato to cross compile your own stuff. The Toastman builds are great, especially if your router has 8MB flash and USB. Stick a small thumbdrive in there, install the opt/ipkg mods and your humble router is now a webserver/fileserver/somanyotherthings.

    7. Re:Tomato by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Misinformation.

      Latest versions for DD-WRT is June 2011, while the latest version for Tomato TomatoUSB was released November 2010.

      Not sure what is meant by "unofficial", since the entire project is is community driven. Also, Tomato is only available to a severly limited set of routers, not including the mentioned WNDR3700, as far as I know.

    8. Re:Tomato by antdude · · Score: 1

      Why did its development stop? Did no one take over it?

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      Ant(Dude) @ Quality Foraged Links (AQFL.net) & The Ant Farm (antfarm.ma.cx / antfarm.home.dhs.org).
    9. Re:Tomato by Sleepy · · Score: 2

      Because dd-wrt wanted to take the project closed. Not necessarily closed source, but effectively so with some deliberate barriers to discourage folks getting into the code and making their own customizations. This drove away both users and potential contributers. Big surprise, that.

      Everyone has gone over to open-wrt because it is... well, open.

    10. Re:Tomato by aztracker1 · · Score: 1

      Ditto on the above comments... TomatoUSB + Asus RT-N16 is about the best combo available. I've used RT-N12's as well, but they don't seem to be as stable, and had trouble getting an N12 into bridge mode (would brick itself, sftp for recovery).

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      Michael J. Ryan - tracker1.info
    11. Re:Tomato by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The builds are still getting done very frequently, they just aren't in the downloads page.

    12. Re:Tomato by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This may be why my Linksys WRT310N that I bought 3+ yr ago is recently having trouble with seeding torrents (despite all the port fwd settings testing good in my BT client.)
      Guess it's time to look at a refresh with Tomato.

    13. Re:Tomato by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And yet Openwrt isn't moving that much better, they had a gap of several months between releases themselves, and I just don't find their website very usable.

    14. Re:Tomato by MagicM · · Score: 1

      I'm using dd-wrt because it supports having multiple wireless lans on a single router, each with their own ssid and encryption. Last time I checked Tomato doesn't support that, but your post made me look at open-wrt and it does. Thank you.

    15. Re:Tomato by alexo · · Score: 1

      I got the impression that Tomato does not support dual-band N routers.
      Or am I wrong?

  23. Ubiquiti and Mikrotik by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Check out Ubiquiti for their wifi router (one of the best performers put there) and/or Mikrotik for the PCIe adapters. Both are producing remarkably reliable and cheap products. You won't be disappointed.

    http://ubnt.com/powerapn
    http://routerboard.com

  24. Consider building your own by vanDrunen · · Score: 2

    DD-WRT isn't what it used to be anymore, the build environment is a mess, a lot of drivers are binary only and often you have to dig around in the forums to find which builds are stable. I had a lot of bad experiences with consumer grade wireless routers (Linksys WRT610N... $#!&) and building my own router was the best choice I ever made. You can use OpenWRT on a broad range of devices and it has similar features as DD-WRT and also a very nice web-interface. It runs perfectly on low power embedded PC's such as PCEngines Alix (X86) or Ubiquity RouterStation (ARM). Nice enclosures and also complete pre-built systems can be found on eBay. The best choice for wireless network cards would be Atheros based, using the ATH9K driver in Linux. Ubiquity (www.ubnt.com) makes some very decent high power versions (SR-71 series) and Wistron DNMA92 is perfect as a budget solution (can be found on the pcengines online store). The RouterStation Pro and some of the Alix boards allow you to connect multiple wireless network cards for Dual Band radios. I would strongly suggest to use 5 GHz in addition to 2.4 GHz for the devices that support it. The 2.4 GHz range is overcrowded.

    1. Re:Consider building your own by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had a lot of bad experiences with consumer grade wireless routers (Linksys WRT610N... $#!&) and building my own router was the best choice I ever made.

      I would like to expand on that with my own opinion of the WRT610N, it goes something like this..

      $#%&!@!!.. and of course.. $!!!%&@$^*!!.. and !!8#%@$½!!!!!

      O.o

      I bought one (WRT610Nv1), assuming it would be supported for a long time by Cisco/Linksys because it was their top consumer router at the time. Not so, they haven't updated the firmware for ages - more than two years ago at last count. Not even the v2 has seen an update in more than a year. No custom firmware outfit could get it to run well due to the Broadcom crap in it so you were basically stuck with the official firmware which was extremely unstable unless you disabled a crapload of stuff. Not to mention how poorly it performed. I'm sure you knew all this about the WRT610N, but I'd just like to warn everyone that Linksys isn't the company we used to know back in the WRT54G days. Next time someone recommends a Linksys router I'll need actual proof the device isn't a piece of shit. I only bought it because I used to have a WRT54GL which was the best router I've ever owned but I needed a replacement capable of Wireless-N. About two months ago I caved and got myself a Netgear WNDR3700v2, works great and has long-term potential with it's improving OpenWRT support.

  25. Re:Why DD-WRT, it's not stable by krinderlin · · Score: 1

    Hmmmmm...valid. DD-WRT is not one of those things you update often. I've been running DD-WRT stably on 54G's of various versions for at least 4 years. I really haven't had any issue with them EVER so I've never really done much other than visit the Wiki and main pages on occasion when flashing a new 54G. I'd not though to check into how DD-WRT was doing on 802.11n devices.

  26. TP-LINK TL-WR1043ND by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    We have a TL-WR1043ND router running OpenWRT and a TL-WN821N USB adapter in our household and never had an issue with either of them. I used to be wary of TP-LINK (bad rep as a cheap-o-brand), but at the time I was browsing for the router, the consensus among Amazon reviewers seemed to be, that while sporting a poorly implemented, official firmware, the device performed really well with any of the usual xWRT variants. That's been pretty much our experience as well.

  27. Belkin N300 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a Belkin N300. I think they go for about $30 bucks now. For the price, you get ,Gigabit wired connections, two usb connections, wireless N and it takes DD-WRT just fine. I have been using it as a wireless access point/ print server/ miniswitch for wired connection/backup disk for a year now and haven't had any issues.

    SuDZ

  28. Moca by whitedsepdivine · · Score: 1

    You don't have to use wireless if you don't want too. You said you have coax. There is IP over coax that has a backbone of 100-250MB/s called MoCA. Just ebay it, they have routers and endpoints. You don't need a MoCA router, just endpoints. They work as a switch where each port can be located off a coax line, and the backbone is the coax network.

    1. Re:Moca by whitedsepdivine · · Score: 1

      This is what Comcast and Verison use as their backbone for multi-room DVR. It will give you the most reliable connection. You can have multiple endpoints, and you have have multiple MoCA networks over the same Coax lines. They use QAM channels over 1GHZ that will not interfer with your cable TV. And they will auto detect existing networks, either join them or create their own based on security settings. Additionally you can hang a switch off an endpoint to have more ports at a location.

    2. Re:Moca by Joe+U · · Score: 1

      I have a cable tv line that isn't being used anymore (2fl office to basement). It's completely disconnected from the cable company. Do I need to have this live with the CableCo or can I run it over the currently unused cable?

    3. Re:Moca by whitedsepdivine · · Score: 1

      The system is seperate from the cable company system. You can actually grab two of these and run a single coax cable between them and they will work. We once used two like this before because they actually have a longer cable distance than cat5 and we had to run a longer cable than 100m. An additional note is that extremely short cables will not work, 6 inches and below are too short anywhere in the coax. It will cause reflection and decrease the single strength. Also, you can have multiple splits in the coax network, and it will still work. Usually you put a Point of Entry (POE) filter at the root of the coax system so it does not leak outside your house.

  29. Ethernet over powerline is slow by 1800maxim · · Score: 1

    I opted for Ethernet over powerline in my house, to run from 1 floor down to another. Performance / lag times vary, and it is not as good as I would expect. Sometimes there is certain "lag".

    It depends a lot on the wiring in the house, so the system is sensitive in that way. The wiring in my house is good, though.

  30. Linksys WRT310n by tguyton · · Score: 1

    I have a Linksys WRT310n at home running DDWRT serving as a bridge for my desktop. Setup was fine, no issues for me at least.

    On a related note, the reason I ended up setting it up as a bridge for my desktop is that the Linksys AE1000 USB wireless n adapter I bought is an absolute piece of junk. Almost every time I would reboot my computer or come back from sleep mode, the connection speed would drop to a crawl - usually around 30 kbps. It was easily fixed by unplugging the adapter and plugging it back in, but that got old really quickly. My boyfriend has the same adapter and never has any issues with his, but a quick jaunt over to google revealed that I'm far from being the only one with this problem. I'd recommend steering clear of that particular adapter.

  31. WRT600N by RMingin · · Score: 1

    I have one of these, been running DD-WRT since late on day 1, no issues. Dual band, dual radio abgn. Might be getting difficult to find, but the high end Linksys routers are a fairly safe bet, and the DD-WRT wiki will answer your questions.

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    The preceding comment is my own, and in no way construes an opinon of the Emperor of Mankind.
  32. Don't. by Howard+Beale · · Score: 1

    For the stationary equipment (Xbox, Blu-Ray player, etc), use Powerline AV equipment such as http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-XAVB5001-Powerline-500-Adapter/dp/B004DVEW8I and connect one of the adapters to the new wireless-N router. Use the wireless only for your laptops and other wireless clients.

  33. Not DD-WRT but... by F34nor · · Score: 1

    Look at Ubiquiti and Ruckus. Both are doing really interesting stuff.

  34. other considerations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As noted above check the compatibility list, but also you might want to consider Tomato firmware as it's a bit easier in the interface and has QoS. What it lacks is VLAN support from the web gui (you can do it command line). Development is current though there are a few variants available. I have this on a WnNR3500 running for quite a few months and it is solid as a rock.

    One other thing for Wireless N is whether you want a dual channel. If so, there is really only one choice I know works 100% and that's the Linksys WRT320. Dual channel is a challenge because the third party firmwares only work with certain chipsets and as noted above, the development is spotty because these people do have full time jobs as well.

    As for adapters, I found USB "n" adapters for $15 on newegg and they are just fine. But I also saw a 100 foot ethernet cable for $7 on eBay so that's another option if you don't mind making holes in your drywall.

  35. The 200 Mbs adapters work surprisingly well by MetricT · · Score: 1

    Not in the sense that you'll ever actually see 200 Mbs, but that they work in some harsh environments. I can get 6 Mbs over 400 ft of buried ROMEX electrical cord between my parents house and garage which is full of electric motors and spliced lines. I expect the upcoming generation of 1Gb G.hn adapters would hit 10-15 Mbs real world. Not bad at all.

    In my house with its 1960's wiring, iperf is showing a consistent 44 Mbs.

  36. Re:Since when is this news for nerds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe this stuff matters?

  37. Switch to MikroTik/RouterBoard by macmouse · · Score: 2

    I have been using dd-wrt/tomato for years and I agree with some of the other posters, that development is nearly at a standstill.

    IMHO, you should switch to a different platform - MikroTik!

    The software is *way* more powerful than dd-wrt, has been more stable and performed exceptionally for me. I must admit, there is a bit of a learning curve but there is a lot of guides out there now and they have added a windows-based GUI, as well as significantly improved their web interface, so most basic stuff is point and click now. You can do some really powerful stuff that you would have to shell out big bucks for a cisco or the like.

    They have just released a new model that supports 802.11n, using a internal diversified/MIMO antenna that transmit up to 1 Watt! (Most AP's use a 10th of that)
    All for only $59! They make the hardware and the software, so you know all of the drivers are going to work.
    http://routerboard.com/RB751U-2HnD

    You can do stuff like make a separate SSID for guests (without a password), put it on a separate subnet to isolate it from your home network, setup strict firewall restrictions based on bandwith/port/packet shaping rules so they can't run bit-torrent and suck up all your bandwith,etc.

    ------
    You could also buy a 802.11n router, turn off the router mode (disable DHCP) and just use it as an access point. Boom - you get all of the features of dd-wrt (by still using the old model for routing) but use the new one for wireless access. I've also done that for a number of years and it works great.

    1. Re:Switch to MikroTik/RouterBoard by krinderlin · · Score: 1

      That looks tasty. Thanks for the recommendation, I'll look into it!

  38. Still kickin by phizi0n · · Score: 2

    DD-WRT is not dead but the developers work in the strangest of ways and can't be coaxed toward sanity. If you browse the file directories on the server (many links in the DD-WRT forums) then you can find updated beta builds. The beta builds that we forum moderators recommend is getting old but that is because the newer builds have several major bugs, but you're free to run any build you want.

    Just look at the DD-WRT Trac for proof that it's still being developed.
    http://svn.dd-wrt.com/timeline

    1. Re:Still kickin by Gordo_1 · · Score: 1

      I have to agree. I bought a Linksys E4200, and while it more or less works in DD-WRT with some manual config edits and in very specific configurations (only 2.4GHz N, only 10MHz channels, and only on the default channel numbers), it has dozens of bugs. OpenDNS updates don't work, I had to write my own fix for loopback operation, the router has to be rebooted daily to prevent wireless drop-off, etc...

      None of these bugs ever seem to get fixed, but instead I see the couple developers who do write code fixing lots of "typos" on a daily basis. There's may 30-60 minutes of development going into DD-WRT on a daily basis, when it basically needs about 10x that amount to make any kind of progress against the massive list of hardware they sorta-kinda support. I think if they would maybe focus their efforts on a handful of targets, they might get somewhere, but as is, it's resulted in haphazard support for newer hardware.

    2. Re:Still kickin by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 1

      Well, in that case - whatever development effort is remaining is being executed very poorly.

      Deficiencies in older releases aren't being corrected, while new releases introduce new bugs - sounds like if it isn't dead, it's poorly developed.

      inadyn in the recommended release is multiple versions old and fails on many services now. But instead of fixing the old bugs, they're just creating new ones and not touching the known-broken stuff? Last I checked, DD-WRT was including inadyn 1.6 - that was last released in 2004!!!

      dd-wrt hasn't worked with no-ip.com for over a year. What's especially annoying is that it doesn't spit out any errors into the log - it just fails silently and you wonder why you keep getting inactivity nastygrams.

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      retrorocket.o not found, launch anyway?
    3. Re:Still kickin by phizi0n · · Score: 1

      Have a look at this change from just 2 days ago about inadyn.

      http://svn.dd-wrt.com/changeset/17805

      I'm pretty sure that DD-WRT does currently work with no-ip because many people flocked to it when dyndns changed their policy to only allow 1 free name (which also broke compatibility with DD-WRT's old inadyn) and I haven't heard any recent complaints about it being broken with no-ip, so you may just not have configured it correctly. Search for an answer in the forum and if you can't find an answer then make a post.

    4. Re:Still kickin by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 1

      Too late - I already switched to Tomato, everything just plain works better.

      Seriously? From 2004 to 2011 to update inadyn?

      And, of course - what bugs get included with updating to that release compared with the ancient "recommended" release for Broadcom devices?

      I went through great lengths to make inadyn print more useful log info - it's kind of stupid that DD-WRT's default error reportings for inadyn cause it to report success when a failure occurs. Verbose logging showed that the server was rejecting requests, I believe (based on what I remember) because they weren't SSL.

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  39. TP-LINK WR1043ND by aglider · · Score: 1

    Cheap and effective.

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  40. Not enough info by phizi0n · · Score: 1

    This question really belongs on the DD-WRT forums but free advertising is always good.

    This question gets asked all the time and the first answer is almost always "you didn't provide enough info" which applies here as well. What features do you want besides 802.11n (802.11n isn't even very specific, do you want simultaneous dual band 802.11n? how many MIMO streams?) such as USB or gigabit Ethernet, and what is your price range? There are MANY options available nowdays and it's not so simple as "buy a wrt54g because it's the only model" like it was a decade ago.

  41. Linksys ftw by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Linksys WRT350N, very happy with it

  42. Netgear WNDR3300 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I recently got a refurb Netgear WNDR3300 from tiger direct for $20 and installed dd-wrt on it. I attached it to my WRT54G (also running ddwrt) via an ethernet cable and configured the netgear as a wireless N 5ghz only AP (no dhcp, instructions can be found in ddwrt wiki)

  43. Linksys E3000/4200 is great by Scragglykat · · Score: 1

    I see someone else recommended the Linksys E4200 already. I've set up an E3000 (predecessor of the E4200) with DD-WRT and it works great. Very fast CPU, dual band 2.4 and 5ghz, B/G/A/N support with 2.4 and 5ghz simultaneous. It also has a 5 port gigabit switch and a USB port for hooking up a harddrive or printer. 480mhz processor, 64mb of RAM, 16mb flash ROM, it's a pretty powerful router for the price. Most sites have it for $159 or so, but Costco carries it for $130 if you have a membership. Also, I read yesterday, if someone you know has a membership, have them purchase a $10 gift card for you, and you can shop without a membership to use it, and pay the extra with a debit card or amex card, or with cash. I plan to get one soon for myself, to replace my WRT54GLs since I'm about to start purchasing some N equipment and setting up gigabit wired in my home.

  44. Yeah, don't wire rentals unless it's dead easy. by Medievalist · · Score: 1

    If you buy a house at any point, take the time to properly wire it inside the walls with the best cabling you can afford. You won't regret it, signal isolation is a wonderful thing (and pets aren't as likely to chew the wires inside a wall).

    But no way is it worth any real effort to wire up a rental.

    You're on the right track.

  45. MoCA. by nbvb · · Score: 1

    Seriously, if you have coaxial jacks, get MoCA bridges. They're awesome.

    1. Re:MoCA. by djs98052 · · Score: 1

      I will second the MoCA recommendation. You can probably get 200-400Mbit/s over MoCA which is a lot better than you will actually get with 802.11n. The Netgear MCAB1001 kit is $80 on Amazon right now. I recently bought two used Westell 9100EM routers (predominantly used by Verizon in FiOS installations). They have MoCA, an Ethernet switch and 802.11g wireless. You might need to upgrade your cable splitters to pass the >1GHz signals and allow bidirectional flow, but those are simple upgrades.

    2. Re:MoCA. by krinderlin · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, there is ONE coax jack in the apartment and the cable company and property management company refuse to have any more installed. :-( I did some research on MoCA and was greatly saddened that it's out of the question for my situation.

    3. Re:MoCA. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Absolutely agree. Moca >>> 802.11n for fixed installations. I use nim-100's and can pull a solid 100mbits over coax through several splitters all day long.

  46. A mixed recommendation: WNDR3300 by Kufat · · Score: 1

    DD-WRT is very stable on my Netgear WNDR3300, but the CPU reaches 100% usage at relatively low throughput. See here for some benchmarks recorded by another user.

    I'm looking to get a better router and to OpenWRT in the near future. (The amount of writable flash on my router is too small to have a usable OpenWRT install with a JFFS2 partition.)

  47. an upgrade to an 1800s house with 3 floors. by Machtyn · · Score: 1

    1 x Linksys E2000 802.11a/b/g/n 2.4/5GHz Selectable Dual Band Gigabit Wireless Router up to 300Mbps
    4 x ENCORE ENUWI-2XN42 USB 2.0 Wireless N300 Adapter, 2dBi

    Those were the most recent purchases I made to upgrade an old 1800's house where the owner preferred no holes to be drilled to run wire. I believe I left a wrt54gn on the third floor for a multifunction printer that could not utilize a wireless device. Both routers were equipped with dd-wrt. The Encore adapters work very nicely.

  48. Run Cable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go to home depot (or equivalent)... buy some fish tape. Get yourself spool of cat 5e, jacks, wallplates and a crimper.

    That will run you about 100 bucks. Then run cable, it's really not that hard. I just bought a home in July and had never fished cable before.. it was tricky at first, but not bad once I got the hang of it..... and once you have it in it's AWESOME. Even 100 Mbps over the wire is WAY faster than 802.11n... and gigabit is another planet.

    1. Re:Run Cable by krinderlin · · Score: 1

      Rental Apartment. Crazy landlord. Should've specified. :-)

      I ran Ethernet through my parents house when I lived there, so it's not outside of my realm of experience. ;-)

  49. ASUS (RT-N13U/B) Wireless-N 300 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ASUS (RT-N13U/B) Wireless-N 300 , completely supported, cheap and works incredibly well. Check Amazon I got mine for 39.99 after a mail-in. I recommend it to everyone.

  50. Mine is: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My wireless is currently a Netgear WNR834B v2 running dd-wrt. Dual band works great at around 270Mbps.

  51. OpenWRT + Buffalo Router by zbobet2012 · · Score: 2

    Many (most) Buffalo routers ship with DD-WRT if you want to go that route. They also tend to be decently priced. As others have mentioned DD-WRT is: A) A bit dead in development B) A bit unstable I would recommend going with either TomatoUSB or OpenWRT+ LucI.

    1. Re:OpenWRT + Buffalo Router by Sleepy · · Score: 1

      Plus dd-wrt is a bit "closed". They seem to deliberately go out of their way to make it difficult even for experienced developers to package up their own custom firmware. (If I don't qualify that, someone will reply with a red herring case why newbies shouldn't hack router firmware... and in such an extreme example, I agree).

      Supposedly open source projects shouldn't go out of their way to keep people from modifying the source. This hurts not just the users, but it drives away potential new contributers. Which is why of course we have open-wrt. You'd have to pay me to use dd-wrt.

    2. Re:OpenWRT + Buffalo Router by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Openwrt rocks especialy the pkg manager. All you can think off you get pre compiled
      i use a one wire temperature sensores on my buffalow.
      Btw the buffalows have super large ram and flash too.

  52. Linksys E2000 as WAP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't have a lot of time/confidence in DD-WRT to run on newer platforms, so I used a Linksys E2000 I had laying around, disabled DHCP, UPNP and used it as a WAP - bridged to my old reliable WRT54G using Ethernet. One day when I get some free time I will have to check out Tomato/OpenWRT.

  53. 802.11n PCIe adapters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you want some good and not "crazy" expensive 802.11n solution for your clients the better route is to get some well-supported mini PCIe 11N wireless card and a Mini PCIe to PCIe x1 adapter (for desktops).
    For the wireless card i personally go for the Atheros AR9280-based, they're 2x2 and dual-band up to 300M, works great with the linux ath9k driver.
    You could try one of the newer AR9382 (2x2 dual-band, up to 300M) or even AR9380 (3x3 dual-band, up to 450M) but i personally didn't test them yet.

  54. Netgear WNR3500L by Adayse · · Score: 1

    I have 2x Netgear WNR3500L bridged that have been running ddr-wrt trouble free for almost a year. They are cheap and have 8MB flash and 64MB ram.

  55. Re:Since when is this news for nerds? by blackest_k · · Score: 2

    Sometimes the news is not in the article but in the comments, actually scratch that slashdot is all about the comments.

    Home networking is always of some interest to most of us, and a round up of whats available good reliable / unreliable of currently available gear makes for interesting (and mostly reliable) reading on slashdot.

    Where else will you get this kind of update on what's current and what matters rather than the consumer view point which is just going to cover it lets me connect to my isp and didn't cost a lot.

    I'd rate this topic as one of the best this month, seriously.

  56. openWRT /trunk/ on DLINK DIR-825 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Solid machine! 2 ath9k radios (2.4GHz/5.0GHz), 600MHz CPU, 64MB RAM, 4MB FLASH. The last part is the only thing that hurts it, but with a custom build of openWRT (think block-mount, usb-storage-essentials, usb-storage-extras, kmod-fs-ext4 modules) you can quite easily plug any size of USB HDD into it and setup a overlay filesystem onto it. Another feature is the firmware recovery mode just in case you manage to brick it. Finally, who can not like the dual coloured LEDs (orange/blue) that glow a funny pink when both on at the same time. =)

  57. HOWTO DD-WRT on Netgear WNDR3700 by fak3r · · Score: 1

    I've just posted HOWTO run DD-WRT on a Netgear WNDR3700 (http://fak3r.com/geek/howto-run-dd-wrt-on-a-netgear-wndr3700/) as I upgraded from the Linksys WRT54GL running the Tomato firmware. Step by step directions and more details than you need to run it yourself. (PRO-TIP: find a 'factory refurbished' WNDR3700 v1 - I got mine for 55$ on eBay). I couldn't be happier with this setup, and recommend it over any other router currently available.

    1. Re:HOWTO DD-WRT on Netgear WNDR3700 by fak3r · · Score: 1

      The link to my site didn't automatically turn into a URL...I guess I'm not used to the 1995 posting abilities of Slashdot anymore! Here's the link: http://fak3r.com/geek/howto-run-dd-wrt-on-a-netgear-wndr3700/

  58. IF you want flexibility and faster.... by Lumpy · · Score: 1

    Ditch DD-WRT.

    I use ipCop that gives me 80X of what DD-WRT can and a pair of dedicated ap's. works far better than any consumer router running DD-WRT and delivers more "flexibility".

    Real 802.11n at 5 ghz is where your performance gains are, avoid the Fake 802.11n routers or ap's that are not dual band with 5ghz. I bought a decent pair of dual band N ap's and a tiny mini-itx based PC that had 3 networks ports, this was 2X the price of a consumer grade real N router but it's far more powerful, flexible and gives me the ability to have a secure network and a insecure one for friends protected by true network isolation.

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    1. Re:IF you want flexibility and faster.... by Gazzonyx · · Score: 1

      When you say that you're using a pair of dedicated AP's, are you setting them to the same SID? I'm about to start a project for adding wireless over a warehouse where I'll need to use more than a single AP to cover the area. Have you found it to work reliably and seamlessly? Any info would be appreciated so I can learn from others mistakes.

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  59. to the surprise of even the haters... by catmistake · · Score: 1

    Apple's Airport Extreme is one of the best available. Doubt you can get dd-wrt on it, and I'm sure the software will annoy... but it works, and works well by all reports. Worth a look even if only for comparison, to make sure whatever you get is just as good.

    1. Re:to the surprise of even the haters... by sheddd · · Score: 1

      I've been using one for a couple years; pricey but it does work well. I had one quit working (replaced by warranty). I wish it had good reports, and I don't really care for Airport Utility... I've got MRTG running on a server to query it... my ISP has been performing pretty badly; I'd like to see how bad; this article inspired me :)

      I'm gonna try and get hourly/daily/monthly totals and identify which port is which tonight... then get some absurdly popular .torrent, and see how bandwidth performs over a few days.

  60. Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH by DirePickle · · Score: 1

    I use a Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH. I run OpenWRT on it, but IIRC DD-WRT is actually officially supported for it--though when I bought the router it was missing features. It has a fast CPU, plenty of RAM, plenty of flash, and GigE.

    It lacks 5GHz 802.11n, though. There might be something new in the same line that has it, though, I guess.

  61. Dlink DIR-825 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I installed 200 of these at my company in a mesh network using ddwrt. Dual Band, Wireless N and has amazing range.

  62. Freaking slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm tried of seeing my comment deleted....

  63. Re:Asus RT-N16 with Tomato USB by InvisiBill · · Score: 1

    I too have had great experience with the N16 running Tomato USB. I convinced a couple friends to get it as well, and they're also very happy. The router has tons of RAM, ROM, and CPU. My only complaint is that it's only 2.4GHz, not 5GHz dual-band. However, the only 5GHz device I've got is my work laptop, and I have a separate AP for 802.11g and not much else around me, so 5GHz isn't that big a deal right now.

    There are a few advanced features of DD-WRT that Tomato USB doesn't do (at least from the GUI), but it's got enough features for most power users. Unless there's some very specific feature of DD-WRT that you need, I suspect you'll be happy with Tomato as well.

  64. OpenWRT? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Glancing over this thread I strangely see no mention of it. I use it at work and at home, it works great. It's also open source, unlike the almost unmaintained dd-wrt.

    1. Re:OpenWRT? by BatGnat · · Score: 1

      I might be wrong, but it has no "N" support from what I remember. Haven't check in a while.

    2. Re:OpenWRT? by BatGnat · · Score: 1

      I stand corrected (i checked myself).

  65. NO! Asus RT-N16 is not good. BUFFALO N450 rocks! by sortadan · · Score: 1

    I have both the Asus N16 and the Buffalo N450. The real problem is that sifting through the DD-WRT support forum you will find that there has never been a good stable fully featured build that works with the N16. Asus has not done the work, and has left it to hackers that own the device to update the opensource software. As a result I have installed a swath of firmware versions with the result that I gave up entirely and had to run Tomato on it with optware and then install the PPTP VPN software on that to finally get a stable working system that did what I wanted.

    The Buffalo N450 came pre-installed with DD-WRT and has worked like a champ. They have test and actually support DD-WRT and all the features including VPN and external USB drive connection for NAS and everything. Best $90 I've ever spent on router.

  66. You CAN run Ethernet, you're just lazy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can't run Ethernet to the office

    An office should never be running on wifi. EVER. Especially 8 clients, wow. Just run a damn ethernet cable, I guarantee it will be cheaper and less hassle in the end.

  67. wzr-hp-g450h by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I bought this model about a month ago to replace an annoying airport from apple. I have configured it 2-3 times just for fun, a lot of features, but in reality it just sits there in bridge mode while my pfsense box protects, gives site to site, packet capturing etc.

    I would recommend it, but it doesn't have all the features from other DD-WRT routers, but 3 antennas, external USB share it's nice.

  68. why is this even here? by doronbc · · Score: 0

    this is lazy and disrespectful, you people need to start figuring out how to learn and think for yourselves

  69. E3000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd look at the linksys E3000. It does 802.11 a/b/g/n Simultaneous Dual Band. It also has a USB port so you can hook printers/USB storage to the device as well. You can get refurbed ones for $60-70. It has been supported by DD-WRT for a while. It has great range too.

  70. what about Homeplug? by lactose99 · · Score: 1

    Not a answer to your question per se, but I ran into a very similar problem when I moved to a new apartment 2 years ago. Rather than upgrade everything to 802.11n (and suffer the whole issue of too many wireless cooks in the pot as everyone now has their own access point) I got two Homeplug v2 adapters and moved my router to my office. Cable modem connects to my coax, which is then plugged into a Homeplug. The 2nd Homeplug then goes to the WAN interface on my house router. Works like a charm and I can still use wired connections for all my workstations.

    Just a thought. I would have considered the 802.11n route but there's way too much activity in my area to make that feasible for 8+ machines (my 802.11g access point does work well for the 2-3 wireless devices I use regularly though, especially now that my access point is in my office and spaced further away from my neighbors' APs).

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  71. Refurbished Linksys E2000 and E3000 units by HouseOfMisterE · · Score: 1

    I bought a refurbished Linksys E3000 and two refurbished Linksys E2000 units from Amazon (currently $50 for the E2000 and $61 for the E3000), and have them loaded with dd-wrt. The E2000 and E3000 have gigabit Ethernet ports, the E3000 has simultaneous 2.4GHz/5GHz radios, the E2000 has selectable 2.4GHz/5GHz radios. I'm using the E3000 as my firewall/gateway and have the two E2000 units connected to it via WDS. The WDS links are over the 5GHz radios and I use the 2.4GHz radio in the E3000 for client PC connections. The setup works great, and was pretty inexpensive to implement.

  72. Another vote for Tomato by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go Tomato. DD-WRT has problems (unstable networking for sure) and I lost 2 routers because of it. Tomato has had zero issues for me.

  73. Netgear WNDR3700. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have it, it was about $100. It supports dual-band wireless-n, and DD-WRT, and it's really powerful in terms of specs. It even ships with OpenWRT.

  74. ASUS RT-N66U by nukem996 · · Score: 1

    I asked this question awhile ago and after doing a bunch of research I've decided to wait for the ASUS RT-N66U which should be coming out in the next few weeks. Its gigabit with 802.11N dual channel and two USB ports. It has a 600Mhz Broadcom chip and 256M of RAM. While googling around for it I've seen a couple of references in Tomato and OpenWRT to them adding code for it so I assume it will be supported, most other ASUS routers are.

  75. Buffalo WZR-HP-AG300H by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Buffalo WZR-HP-AG300H. Only $90 on Amazon and great signal. Supports 5ghz too.

    I run the latest firmware.

    1. Re:Buffalo WZR-HP-AG300H by ntw1103 · · Score: 1

      I agree. I've been running this for a while now, and haven't had any issues. It comes with dd-wrt, but you can upgrade if needed. As for performance, it can handle 20 simultaneous connections all streaming youtube(not the best test.. ) without any issues, while other stuff is going on. The range is great on it also.

  76. I use WRT610n (E3000 currently) by scorilo · · Score: 1

    I wrote about why and how and, like I said, I'd probably go with Netgear if I were to choose again. For adapters I'd recommend a Rosewill USB from Newegg: they're cheap (less than $20) and very powerful.

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  77. wrt600n by Phyrexia · · Score: 1

    Have good experiences with now-discontinued Linksys WRT600N.

  78. TL-WR1043ND by mathew7 · · Score: 1

    I use TPLink's TL-WR1043ND, however with openwrt, not dd-wrt (although it is supported by ddwrt since feb. 2011 build).
    My main reason was gigabit ethernet followed by flash (8MB) and price (I think it's one of the cheapest gigabit routers)
    I'm using it as a main router for over 2-3 months, with wifi for android phone and 2 laptops (only 1 laptop with 802.11n).

  79. Re:Since when is this news for nerds? by unitron · · Score: 1

    Somebody didn't take notice that this is in the "Ask Slashdot" section, i.e., the section specifically designed for "...someone asking for advice and opinions....".

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  80. Single best WRT54G hack ever... by unitron · · Score: 1

    A little off-topic, but...

    If you have a WRT54G (the original, stackable version), and/or a BEFSR41 (same case style, no wireless), get a fan like an old 486 or socket 5/socket 7 Pentium heatsink fan, and 4 plastic motherboard standoffs.

    The part of the standoffs that stick up through a motherboard are the part that'll go into the fan's screw holes.

    The other end of the standoffs has a broad flange and a part below that that hooks into the mounting holes on the case.

    Saw off that part under the flange, leaving the flange attached to the standoff. That flange will be the standoff's "foot".

    Use a very little RTV (Room-Temperature Vulcanizing) silicone sealant (one version is called aquarium sealant) on the bottom of the flanges and position the fan over the main IC.

    Probably best to have the fan blowing up to avoid building up dust on the top of the IC.

    Somewhere near the power input of the Linksys you'll be able to find a couple of solder pads with ground and +12V DC. It varies from version to version and with which model, but after some diodes and capacitors it should be +12V DC even if the secondary winding of the wall wart starts out feeding in AC to the jack on the back of the Linksys.

    Keeping that main IC cooled makes a world of difference in stability.

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  81. La Fonera by alexandre_ganso · · Score: 1

    www.fon.com - It uses its own version of dd-wrt, but you can just use the regular one.

    Good things: the work they did over the original dd-wrt, usb port, torrent out of box, etc.

    Bad things: no 5gz, ethernet is 100mpbs.

  82. Any alternative to DD-WRT for WNDR3700v2? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We have a bunch of WNDR3700v2's serving a student area using DD-WRT. Its worked well until now, but there is a bug in the Ubuntu 11.10 driver for the Intel Ultimate N Wifi Link that crashes the router. We can't control what the laptops are running, so I'm wondering if there is a fix on the router side. As others have observed DD-WRT is not getting updates. Is there an alternative to DD-WRT that will run on the WNDR3700v2 an Atheros based router?

  83. OT: auto-link Re:HOWTO DD-WRT on Netgear WNDR3700 by rthille · · Score: 1

    Probably, the tokenizer doesn't recognize (http://www.google.com) because of the lack of space between the paren and the ( http://www.google.com/ )

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  84. TL-WR1043ND is Great! by cciRRus · · Score: 1

    I couldn't agree more. This baby rocks! Other than Gigabit Ethernet, priced ridiculously low, it comes with a USB port that you can plug in additional storage for storing installed packages or hosting web content.

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  85. Buying a DD-WRT Router by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I prefer the Netgear WNDR3700 and the Asus RT-N16. I purchased both at flashrouters.com. Already flashed and customconfigured to my network configuration. Very helpful support and excellent units running smoothly. On is running my local ISP and the other is serving my VPN connection as I have had to move out of the US for business.

    Hope this helps