I'm going to assume you mean complete stack (HTTP, HTML renderer, JS Engine etc). While the HTTP layer is fairly simple (and thus implement well in a ton of APIs for each of the major platforms), the rest is BIG and to do it well is hard so it is not done well all that often. So what you end up with is either a re-skinned IE, Firefox or Chrome.
Now these exists, for a bunch of different reasons for example before IE had tabs a tabbed IE existed and people who want to stay in the late 1990s have SeaMonkey. However most end up with an interface that is a lot like Chrome/Firefox/IE (as it is a good interface) but without the plugin support.
> Though I wonder how many companies would block you from accessing their site if the browser doesn't have the correct branding
I use to happen a lot and that is why we now have stupid user agent strings.
Mine is currently: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/33.0.1750.117 Safari/537.36
Mozilla/5.0 - Pretend to be Firefox AppleWebKit/537.36 - And Safari KHTML - Base of Safari/Chrome Gecko - Back to Firefox Chrome - I could be Chrome Safari - Of Safari
The only one missing is IE. And I've seen many a user agent string that includes that as well (while not actually being IE).
The move to Cyanogenmod (or a like) is tempting, but to uninstall none-system apps I should not need to.
Plus as I'm using a Note I'd be worried that I'd the features that I do want (S-Note for example) will either not work or would require magic. And I'm lazy.:)
I also want to phone people every once in a blue moon and have always-on access to various IM clients. I don't want to carry two devices.
Now you don't want this and it is great that you can get a device that meets your needs. I can get a device that meets my needs but alas now they all come with shit installed.
Up to 1998 freedom of expression was protected under common law rather than a single document. In 1998 the UK passed the Human Rights Act which covers freedom of expression. Like the US this is not absolute, and I believe in the case of libel even sticker than the US.
The UK does not have a separate "freedom of press" as it is covered by the freedom of expression. Anyone can start up a new news paper and express themselves.
> Most people DON'T know these things, so there's that.
But most people will not have what is clearly a geeky toy. So this only really helps reviewers of cables.
> USB charging is absolutely a confusing mess.
I've never really come across this confusing mess. Now I don't own any Apple devices, but my mix of Android devices have all charged fine with a mix of USB cables connected to a mix of plugs (ranging from battery packs to wall sockets). Sure the PC may charge slower than the wall socket but I don't see why most people would care. The Apple charger might not charge the Android at all, but that is something that you will notice without a $25 tool.
If I've read the kick starter thing correctly (and I may have it wrong) this is two bits, a tester and a cable that will ensure you get the best charge from your USB port.
The tester only really works after you have bought a device, which is a little to late in my mind, esp. when you could buy a just $25 charger and be reasonably sure you are getting something good.
Sure you could say that send the charger back if you get a "dud" but that again will cost more (factoring in time) than just buying a good reasonably priced charger in the first case.
I'm sure it has uses (8000-odd people think it does), I just don't see them.
In this case you are talking about the "better cable" rather than the cable tester, and would the "better cable" really help in the case of the car charger?
At work I could plug my phone into the computer or... Buy a second plug, that seams a bit pointless even it if it does knock and hour of the phones charging time.
At home I do have choice, but why would I really worry as each night it gets charged and has all night. So again an hour does not really matter.
The money invested in SETI is then invested in other companies. The returns from this then pays for SETI and the people who owns the bonds (this would have to be a tiny return for the bond owners).
Once the SETI program finishes the investments in other companies is closed and the amount left over is given back to the bond owners.
I think you are taking a extreme example here. Most school can not afford to give away iPads. To take a different extreme my daughters local school (in Greece) can not afford a room full of reasonable computers and uses hands-me-downs from its students and teachers.
You plug it into your existing tellybox (or a new one for them ). That is how I see my daughter using hers when she gets a little older.
Personally I see the monitor mentioned in TFA aimed at the "adult hackers playing with their new toy" set of the RasPi market rather than the "kids having complete ownership of a computer" part.
Personally I don't see the monitor as part of the "learn programming" goal. The monitor that fits that goal is your TV or an existing monitor.
I see the monitor as part of the second life that has taken off around the Pi. A tool for small PC that geeks play with. I'd like a little monitor like this to make a small cheap video conf. solution. Yes a pair of 6” GoTab DIG!T tables would be cheaper and simpler, but not as fun.
The way I see the Pi is the point is the kids do get root. They get to own the computer and as "reinstall" is "dump data on a SD card" it is "safe" to work this way.
It is not the only way you can do this but it is cheap (good for the parent) and completely customizable by the kid and becoming fairly well supported by the community.
As part of an IT course I could easily see this "spilling out" of IT, your programing section teaches you language X, the metal work class has you make a case, the electronics class has you make use of the GPIO pins and you write your English homework in Abiword on it. Plus the price means you could give one to each of your student (or at least give a SD card knowing that they could buy one and it would be identical to the one at school when you plug in your SD card).
Two reasons: 1) I can super glue it into a home-made device of some sort and not have two worry about cost.
2) You can give it to your kids and keep a SD image ready and you no need to worry about them going "what happens when I do "sudo rm -rf/".
Both are not about just programming. They are about understand complete systems. You don't need to use a Pi, but they are cheap and fairly well supported.
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But that is after the item.
That also works in Chromes super bar thing.
Beer in chrome goes find me beer.
as does "Where do I buy strawberry beer?"
But I'd never think of writing "? Beer" to find beer.
> HTTP components in language API's
I'm going to assume you mean complete stack (HTTP, HTML renderer, JS Engine etc). While the HTTP layer is fairly simple (and thus implement well in a ton of APIs for each of the major platforms), the rest is BIG and to do it well is hard so it is not done well all that often. So what you end up with is either a re-skinned IE, Firefox or Chrome.
Now these exists, for a bunch of different reasons for example before IE had tabs a tabbed IE existed and people who want to stay in the late 1990s have SeaMonkey. However most end up with an interface that is a lot like Chrome/Firefox/IE (as it is a good interface) but without the plugin support.
> Though I wonder how many companies would block you from accessing their site if the browser doesn't have the correct branding
I use to happen a lot and that is why we now have stupid user agent strings.
Mine is currently:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/33.0.1750.117 Safari/537.36
Mozilla/5.0 - Pretend to be Firefox
AppleWebKit/537.36 - And Safari
KHTML - Base of Safari/Chrome
Gecko - Back to Firefox
Chrome - I could be Chrome
Safari - Of Safari
The only one missing is IE. And I've seen many a user agent string that includes that as well (while not actually being IE).
How is that intuitive?
The move to Cyanogenmod (or a like) is tempting, but to uninstall none-system apps I should not need to.
Plus as I'm using a Note I'd be worried that I'd the features that I do want (S-Note for example) will either not work or would require magic. And I'm lazy. :)
Because I don't want a phone. I want a PDA.
I also want to phone people every once in a blue moon and have always-on access to various IM clients. I don't want to carry two devices.
Now you don't want this and it is great that you can get a device that meets your needs. I can get a device that meets my needs but alas now they all come with shit installed.
What does this give Amazon?
Up to 1998 freedom of expression was protected under common law rather than a single document. In 1998 the UK passed the Human Rights Act which covers freedom of expression. Like the US this is not absolute, and I believe in the case of libel even sticker than the US.
The UK does not have a separate "freedom of press" as it is covered by the freedom of expression. Anyone can start up a new news paper and express themselves.
> The hard part is making something that humans will like.
Reality TV has shown this is very easy. :)
I thought the point of Chrome native stuff was that a layer of abstraction was removed?
No I really don't. But I think we have gone as far as we can can. I'm glad it meets a need you have, but I just don't see it.
> Most people DON'T know these things, so there's that.
But most people will not have what is clearly a geeky toy. So this only really helps reviewers of cables.
> USB charging is absolutely a confusing mess.
I've never really come across this confusing mess. Now I don't own any Apple devices, but my mix of Android devices have all charged fine with a mix of USB cables connected to a mix of plugs (ranging from battery packs to wall sockets). Sure the PC may charge slower than the wall socket but I don't see why most people would care.
The Apple charger might not charge the Android at all, but that is something that you will notice without a $25 tool.
We have a known bad combination - Apple charger, Android phone. How does this help? It will tell us it is bad, but we know that.
If I've read the kick starter thing correctly (and I may have it wrong) this is two bits, a tester and a cable that will ensure you get the best charge from your USB port.
The tester only really works after you have bought a device, which is a little to late in my mind, esp. when you could buy a just $25 charger and be reasonably sure you are getting something good.
Sure you could say that send the charger back if you get a "dud" but that again will cost more (factoring in time) than just buying a good reasonably priced charger in the first case.
I'm sure it has uses (8000-odd people think it does), I just don't see them.
In this case you are talking about the "better cable" rather than the cable tester, and would the "better cable" really help in the case of the car charger?
But how does what looks to me like a cable tester help me with that?
The good usb cable I get. But that is not worth $25 is it?
From the sounds if it you don't need a $25 dongle to say "this port is rubbish" and you could spend said $25 on either a powered USB hub or plug.
At work I could plug my phone into the computer or... Buy a second plug, that seams a bit pointless even it if it does knock and hour of the phones charging time.
At home I do have choice, but why would I really worry as each night it gets charged and has all night. So again an hour does not really matter.
What am I missing from this?
The money invested in SETI is then invested in other companies.
The returns from this then pays for SETI and the people who owns the bonds (this would have to be a tiny return for the bond owners).
Once the SETI program finishes the investments in other companies is closed and the amount left over is given back to the bond owners.
What is the reasoning behind that?
I think you are taking a extreme example here. Most school can not afford to give away iPads. To take a different extreme my daughters local school (in Greece) can not afford a room full of reasonable computers and uses hands-me-downs from its students and teachers.
>Only if you don't want a monitor with it.
You plug it into your existing tellybox (or a new one for them ). That is how I see my daughter using hers when she gets a little older.
Personally I see the monitor mentioned in TFA aimed at the "adult hackers playing with their new toy" set of the RasPi market rather than the "kids having complete ownership of a computer" part.
Cool. Do they speak either HDMI (Ideally) or analogue TV?
Personally I don't see the monitor as part of the "learn programming" goal. The monitor that fits that goal is your TV or an existing monitor.
I see the monitor as part of the second life that has taken off around the Pi. A tool for small PC that geeks play with. I'd like a little monitor like this to make a small cheap video conf. solution. Yes a pair of 6” GoTab DIG!T tables would be cheaper and simpler, but not as fun.
The way I see the Pi is the point is the kids do get root. They get to own the computer and as "reinstall" is "dump data on a SD card" it is "safe" to work this way.
It is not the only way you can do this but it is cheap (good for the parent) and completely customizable by the kid and becoming fairly well supported by the community.
As part of an IT course I could easily see this "spilling out" of IT, your programing section teaches you language X, the metal work class has you make a case, the electronics class has you make use of the GPIO pins and you write your English homework in Abiword on it.
Plus the price means you could give one to each of your student (or at least give a SD card knowing that they could buy one and it would be identical to the one at school when you plug in your SD card).
Two reasons:
1) I can super glue it into a home-made device of some sort and not have two worry about cost.
2) You can give it to your kids and keep a SD image ready and you no need to worry about them going "what happens when I do "sudo rm -rf /".
Both are not about just programming. They are about understand complete systems. You don't need to use a Pi, but they are cheap and fairly well supported.