A couple of other data points, both SLES/SLED and RHEL all default to GNOME in the enterprise. Secondly, Cinnamon, Mate, and Unity all depend on underlying GNOME libraries. So, there are a lot of projects depending on GNOME developers. It might not be good for users to wish GNOME's demise since that sow chaos in their own desktop of choice.
Linux never claims POSIX compliance. There is a lot of stuff in the kernel that doesn't necessarily conform to POSIX standard. In fact, if kernel folks disagree with something on the POSIX standard they will modify it. Do you think Linus wouldn't do that?/proc is not a UNIX thing.
Design changes are driven by changes in technology. If you have faster processors, faster memory, and you have new IO devices, then your design has to be updated to able to take advantage of them. If you have a laptop that has touch capability, then economically having a desktop that use it is a waste since that cost is built-in the laptop. Meanwhile the other desktops are quickly ramping up on the new paradigm. If you decide to stay still, you become stagnant.
GNOME is part of GNU, the goal is to continue to bring Free Software to users. Being stagnant means we can't reach the users anymore. In the end, we'd be stuck with a dwindling set of users who prefer the mainframe era of computing. Those users are what? late mid 40s and up? How long will that base of users last when there is nothing to replace them?
Windows 8 was a very busy desktop. You go into their overview (vs GNOME) and it's full of distracting thing. GNOME was meant to be distraction free, while Windows 8 went completely the other way. I also had problems going back to the desktop view. Windows 8 was an effort at desktop/tablet convergence, but it didn't succeed and so windows 10 came that modified the UI. GNOME is still a desktop oriented OS. The desktop is still prime. The basic paradigm has not changed.
It also tends to be behind GNOME. It is based on GNOME, but since they've added their own bits, they can't reasonably update all the GNOME libraries as easily since they forked them all. In honesty, they could probably have re-implemented Cinnamon with using all GNOME libraries and saved themselves a lot of maintenance cost. After all, the platform has now already de-coupled the user experience from everything so you could just implement the shell like Elementary has done, and Budgie. Mate could do the same thing. There are some issues of course like gnome-settings-daemon which has some hardcoded stuff. But if you have the resources to support a whole platform focusing on making something like gnome-settings-daemon generic would be a great effort.
It was a fucking clock. His engineering teacher could have verified it. Second, if they were really concerned why the fuck was the bomb squad and fire dept not called? They kept that kid for two class periods interrogating him without a lawyer and his parents. The principal trying to force him to write some kind of written confession. Again, without his parents. Do you think that was reasonable? Jeezus.
Also speculating what the kid was up to? Really? Why not just give him the benefit of the doubt?
I do believe that overwhelmingly the people of Iran like the United States. Perhaps, folks have forgotten this
Iran did a candlelight vigil for 9/11 victims. And our president didn't even bother to acknowledge it. For all the shit that we threw at Iran, it was because of the U.S. it is a theocracy because of fucking oil. It was a liberal, western loving country at one point.
Hah. Of course, now we have all these people of various stripes in the democratic party pulling the party all over the place. A new conservative party needs to be created, that is you know, actually consrevative, and doesn't define itself as the opposite of whatever the other party is even though if what they are doing is in fact a conservative position.
Not as much of a problem with the Democratic party. Liberals tend to be all over the map on a lot of issues, it's why they have a hard time taking a stand on anything. But as you can see, inflexibility is a sign of decline. That's true in nature, and true in communities. You need diversity, because group think is a bad thing.
Damn straight.. whose bright idea was it to make corporations just like citizens? Aren't they like super humans? Plus, they don't even have the same morality, a group of people running the company has a different set of morals than a singular person.
It blows my mind that the supreme court thought that was okay back in the day. Yet, nobody has challenged this, we get 100s of challenges on the ACA though.
You don't think that having women not running up against a glass ceiling is not important? You can focus on technology, but it is people that make technology happen. Community is just as important as technology, and ignoring half of your community or population is stupid and shortsighted.
Nature will find a way to harmonize and create balance. The human race is due for an epic smackdown. Once, your food supply is affected, invariably that will lead to war of resources (violent or otherwise, but it is usually violence) and then the human population depletes at a furious rate. At which point, teh Earth solves its cancer problem.
Of course, I can't help myself, but our fox reading friends will invariably blame everone but themselves. Or maybe "God did it"
What makes you think that scenario would even happen. That would require a human mistake on one side. That might happen if one guy was self driving and not letting the computer drive.
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A couple of other data points, both SLES/SLED and RHEL all default to GNOME in the enterprise. Secondly, Cinnamon, Mate, and Unity all depend on underlying GNOME libraries. So, there are a lot of projects depending on GNOME developers. It might not be good for users to wish GNOME's demise since that sow chaos in their own desktop of choice.
It means that you've improved the experience (e.g. from feedback) from the last release.
Linux never claims POSIX compliance. There is a lot of stuff in the kernel that doesn't necessarily conform to POSIX standard. In fact, if kernel folks disagree with something on the POSIX standard they will modify it. Do you think Linus wouldn't do that? /proc is not a UNIX thing.
Design changes are driven by changes in technology. If you have faster processors, faster memory, and you have new IO devices, then your design has to be updated to able to take advantage of them. If you have a laptop that has touch capability, then economically having a desktop that use it is a waste since that cost is built-in the laptop. Meanwhile the other desktops are quickly ramping up on the new paradigm. If you decide to stay still, you become stagnant.
GNOME is part of GNU, the goal is to continue to bring Free Software to users. Being stagnant means we can't reach the users anymore. In the end, we'd be stuck with a dwindling set of users who prefer the mainframe era of computing. Those users are what? late mid 40s and up? How long will that base of users last when there is nothing to replace them?
Try looking at some of the slashdot articles on GNOME 2 releases. :-)
Actually, slashdot bashed gnome 2 continuously until gnome 3. :) Then turned around and bashed gnome 3 because it wasn't gnome 2.
Yet, here you are on a GNOME 3 thread like a jilted lover who still has feelings, but has to trash the ex.
Windows 8 was a very busy desktop. You go into their overview (vs GNOME) and it's full of distracting thing. GNOME was meant to be distraction free, while Windows 8 went completely the other way. I also had problems going back to the desktop view. Windows 8 was an effort at desktop/tablet convergence, but it didn't succeed and so windows 10 came that modified the UI. GNOME is still a desktop oriented OS. The desktop is still prime. The basic paradigm has not changed.
I agree about the software launcher stuff.
It also tends to be behind GNOME. It is based on GNOME, but since they've added their own bits, they can't reasonably update all the GNOME libraries as easily since they forked them all. In honesty, they could probably have re-implemented Cinnamon with using all GNOME libraries and saved themselves a lot of maintenance cost. After all, the platform has now already de-coupled the user experience from everything so you could just implement the shell like Elementary has done, and Budgie. Mate could do the same thing. There are some issues of course like gnome-settings-daemon which has some hardcoded stuff. But if you have the resources to support a whole platform focusing on making something like gnome-settings-daemon generic would be a great effort.
He's also had an horrific experience for doing nothing. He got suspended as well, for building a fucking clock.
It was a fucking clock. His engineering teacher could have verified it. Second, if they were really concerned why the fuck was the bomb squad and fire dept not called? They kept that kid for two class periods interrogating him without a lawyer and his parents. The principal trying to force him to write some kind of written confession. Again, without his parents. Do you think that was reasonable? Jeezus.
Also speculating what the kid was up to? Really? Why not just give him the benefit of the doubt?
I do believe that overwhelmingly the people of Iran like the United States. Perhaps, folks have forgotten this
Iran did a candlelight vigil for 9/11 victims. And our president didn't even bother to acknowledge it. For all the shit that we threw at Iran, it was because of the U.S. it is a theocracy because of fucking oil. It was a liberal, western loving country at one point.
Hah. Of course, now we have all these people of various stripes in the democratic party pulling the party all over the place. A new conservative party needs to be created, that is you know, actually consrevative, and doesn't define itself as the opposite of whatever the other party is even though if what they are doing is in fact a conservative position.
Not as much of a problem with the Democratic party. Liberals tend to be all over the map on a lot of issues, it's why they have a hard time taking a stand on anything. But as you can see, inflexibility is a sign of decline. That's true in nature, and true in communities. You need diversity, because group think is a bad thing.
Damn straight.. whose bright idea was it to make corporations just like citizens? Aren't they like super humans? Plus, they don't even have the same morality, a group of people running the company has a different set of morals than a singular person. It blows my mind that the supreme court thought that was okay back in the day. Yet, nobody has challenged this, we get 100s of challenges on the ACA though.
Yes, and now please give us the link where this happened so that we may read it.
Moderate republicans? You guys exist? I thought they chased all you guys out of the party on a rail. :)
You don't think that having women not running up against a glass ceiling is not important? You can focus on technology, but it is people that make technology happen. Community is just as important as technology, and ignoring half of your community or population is stupid and shortsighted.
It will make it that much harder for the media to turn everything into a horse race. No data, means it will be difficult for them to gin up anything.
Nature will find a way to harmonize and create balance. The human race is due for an epic smackdown. Once, your food supply is affected, invariably that will lead to war of resources (violent or otherwise, but it is usually violence) and then the human population depletes at a furious rate. At which point, teh Earth solves its cancer problem. Of course, I can't help myself, but our fox reading friends will invariably blame everone but themselves. Or maybe "God did it"
opensuse ships KDE by default, but SLES and SLED all have GNOME as default.
You've never had to submit a patch to the kernel have you?
Right, I agree. These are great examples of where things can go wrong regardless...
What makes you think that scenario would even happen. That would require a human mistake on one side. That might happen if one guy was self driving and not letting the computer drive.