I'm a postfix fan myself. I've used exim, and have installed it a few places but I feel that postfix is better written as far as security and minimizing bloat goes, which, for my own mailserver usage, are my two key goals. Exim is probably a little more flexible than postfix, but postfix works really well in the vast majority of cases.
Yeah! I personally can't *wait* for those penis enlargement ads and the ads that say I can work from home and make big $$$! w00t! I'm gonna only an hour a day, be independently wealthy, AND have 13 inches! I'll be a babe magnet for sure!
Yeah, in light of the now cheap and ubiquitous Internet access, doing crazy stuff like UUCP and/or FidoNet feeds are just not very useful anymore.
Besides, sendmail has had far too many security vulnerabilities and has grown far too bloated to be very useful, IMHO. Exim and Postfix are each remarkable mail systems in their own right and have way simplified the process of setting up a mail server. sendmail was once great... it was the ONLY thing, but now that there are so many systems out there that are better, why should anyone really continue to use it?
Yeah. That would be because sendmail is about twice as baroque and twice as complicated as Exim (or PostFix, or Qmail, or just about any other smtp server software).;)
Fortunately, the First Amendment would probably keep this kind of flippant taxation from ever working. Becides, perhaps I could put a disclaimer on my blog: "Do not read if you are in the following locales: x, y, z".
Yeah, because the first amendment has done such a wonderful job preventing laws like the DMCA from being passed.
Exactly. I oversimplified it because A) it was already offtopic and B) I made my point anyway (that English and German are far more similar than English and other so-called romance languages.);)
In my opinion, this law (or one like it) is a Good Thing (tm).
I'm not so sure. I have mixed emotions. On one hand, it's a good thing for companies to have to notify customers of an actual breech because it will require them to take data security seriously and take actual steps to prevent theft or at least make the theft of the data useless to a thief.
The problem is that this extends to all companies worldwide. Honestly, I don't see how this can be avoided, but it further sets the precedent that the laws of one locality's whim affect the whole 'Net. That's a problem from a censorship standpoint especially in this politically correct age where anything offensive is basically considered okay to censor.
If people in say that blogs are offensive to them and anyone who runs a blog is subject to some sort of fine or tax on blogs, then Slashdot and various users that have journals on Slashdot could end up having to pay said fine or tax to people that locality. It sounds far-fetched, but it's laws like this that slowly erode away individual rights that will eventually lead to the death of the 'Net as we know it.
Of course, I could just be talking completely out my ass and have no idea what I'm saying because IANAL, so take this with a grain of salt if you will.
So yeah, it IS a good thing don't get me wrong, but the vagueness of the law combined with it's supposed worldwide reach do have me a little concerned.
I'd say the Fish did a suprisingly good job with this, given it's history being useless as a tool for me to cheat with in Spanish class.
It's not surprising, actually. While many people assume that English is based mostly on Latin, the fact is that English is a language that based partly on Latin and partly on German. The syntax for English is actually closer to German than to Latin, while the syntax for Spanish, French and other romantic languages is clearly closer to Latin (which is why when you learn Spanish, learning French or Italian [etc.] is a breeze;).
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One thing I haven't really figured out: Is this what CygWin does? Does CygWin take advantage of the POSIX subsystem, or is everything emulated and interfaced via cygwin32.dll? I really suspect the latter actually, but I wouldn't be surprised if at least some parts of CygWin used the POSIX subsystem.
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t doesn't help, either, that one of SCO's own people made a strong argument awhile back against the whole idea that Unix code could make it into the Linux kernel. Linus Torvalds found a Linux-kernel mailing list (lkml) posting from Christoph Hellwig, a former employee at SCO, then called Caldera. Hellwig pointed out the impracticality of actually getting copied code from UnixWare accepted by the tough critics on the mailing list. "The kernel internals are so different that you'd need a big glue layer to actually make it work and you can guess how that would be ripped apart in a usual lkml review," Hellwig wrote.
Hmmmm...the kernel internals are so different...? But wait, if that's the case how did IBM copy SCO code into Linux...? Exactly. It didn't. Even a SCO employee says so.
SCO doesn't appear to be forcing Microsoft, so I can only come to the conclusion that Redmond is thinking of actually using that license, selling its own version of Unix. I wrote about something very similar to this a few months ago, only then I speculated that Microsoft might build a new OS atop Linux. But why use Linux when they could claim Unix, instead? The key here, I think, is the Windows emulation technology Microsoft got when it bought Connectix. Originally aimed at server consolidation, that code could be used by Microsoft to create and sell a Unix/Windows hybrid that would be a big success if Linux is killed by SCO. And the new Microsoft OS would even be a viable competitor to Linux if SCO loses, since it would offer Windows application compatibility. Microsoft could certainly use a sturdy server operating system for a change.
I never put those together until Cringely did, and ya know, Cringley could be on to something here. It's entirely possible that Microsoft staged this whole thing from day one. That would be the ultimate evil -- but then, again, wouldn't that be just like them? Yeah.;)
From the article: How many lines of code in the Linux kernel are a direct copyright violation? It's very extensive. It is many different sections of code ranging from five to 10 to 15 lines of code in multiple places that are of issue, up to large blocks of code that have been inappropriately copied into Linux in violation of our source-code licensing contract. That's in the kernel itself, so it is significant. It is not a line or two here or there. It was quite a surprise for us.
Extensively? 10-15 lines of code in multiple places and large blocks of code? How could they NOT know? They distributed a custom-patched kernel with (at least AFAIK) Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 and 2.4, and probably all later versions as well, and maybe some earlier versions. I still have COL manuals and CDs laying around somewhere in my boxes of stuff.;)
No, you're right. They willfully distributed associated property under the GPL, and they have willfully violated the GPL. FSF and/or Linus should sue them for all their worth (which is more than you think, I think their market cap is only $75 mil or so). IBM should countersue, their work is in the Linux kernel too. I wouldn't be surprised if IBM did so, either.
No, really, I think SCO is fscked and has been fscked and this is their last dying gasp. They figure if they're gonna go out, they might as well go out in style, eh?
New mass hypnosis commercials in India: "Watch the pretty spiral. You will buy Microsoft software. Open Source software cannot be trusted. Buying Windows is your karma! You are a slave to the Office XP format!"
Yep. That's the one!;) (You have to bear in mind back when I was into this scene, you *had* to be something of a programmer to setup a BBS. We didn't have these "insta BBS" packages back then.
Even if you were, you wouldn't be able to post...this story is obviously supposed to be 'mysterious future' post but it has a timestamp on it. This is weird.
I'm sure we'll be seeing some sort of story explaining what's going on w/the changes on the front page (like the story that's blue). Right, Taco & Co.?;)
And I doubt that's a coincidence either considering that's exactly what the protocol seems to do.
Now I've never read the book, but I'd say in an underground postal system every person in the system has to be trusted. Much like this protocol -- each node in the network needs to be trusted.
You have to build your own little underground network with a few trusted friends. This reminds me a lot of the pirate BBS days... if you wanted access to the 'private' or 'elite' (we didn't use such silliness as 31337;) file sections, you had to know the sysop.
This system allowed for only quality 'warez' files because everyone who was allowed to trade files had to be trusted, and therefore they weren't going to damage their reputation by sending crap like you get on P2P nowadays like incomplete packages or stuff that said it was one thing, but really was another thing. Back when trading pirated software was more like a gentlemen's agreement and not the 'o-D4Y \/\/4R3Z!!!!' crap pimply-faced teenagers with nothing better to do do today.
On the other hand, one has to think, 'Who needs it?' Most of us who were in that community back then have merged in with the Open Source community today and if we trade software at all it's with a CD burner over a cup of coffee.;) OTOH, maybe this is just the thing for people like us.
Those truth in advertising laws are REALLY effective too. AOL is number 1 because it's the easiest to use (no, AOL is number 1 because it's the best at marketing), those ginsu knives really *can* cut through a solid steel block (uh huh), and OxyClean really willl get out ANY stain (um, no.)
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I'm a postfix fan myself. I've used exim, and have installed it a few places but I feel that postfix is better written as far as security and minimizing bloat goes, which, for my own mailserver usage, are my two key goals. Exim is probably a little more flexible than postfix, but postfix works really well in the vast majority of cases.
Holy fsck! You mean I can TURN IT OFF and do something more intellectually stimulating like reading Slashd....err...never mind. ;)
Yeah! I personally can't *wait* for those penis enlargement ads and the ads that say I can work from home and make big $$$! w00t! I'm gonna only an hour a day, be independently wealthy, AND have 13 inches! I'll be a babe magnet for sure!
Where do I sign up for TiVO?
Reference to Paranoia?
Yeah, in light of the now cheap and ubiquitous Internet access, doing crazy stuff like UUCP and/or FidoNet feeds are just not very useful anymore.
... it was the ONLY thing, but now that there are so many systems out there that are better, why should anyone really continue to use it?
Besides, sendmail has had far too many security vulnerabilities and has grown far too bloated to be very useful, IMHO. Exim and Postfix are each remarkable mail systems in their own right and have way simplified the process of setting up a mail server. sendmail was once great
Yeah. That would be because sendmail is about twice as baroque and twice as complicated as Exim (or PostFix, or Qmail, or just about any other smtp server software). ;)
I disagree...
;)
In Michigan, before the breakup of AT&T, we used to say "Ma Bell sucks".
Then we said, "Michigan Bell sucks!"
Then we said, "Gads! Ameritech REALLY sucks bad!"
Then we said, "SBC can blow me." and we all went wireless.
Fortunately, the First Amendment would probably keep this kind of flippant taxation from ever working. Becides, perhaps I could put a disclaimer on my blog: "Do not read if you are in the following locales: x, y, z".
Yeah, because the first amendment has done such a wonderful job preventing laws like the DMCA from being passed.
Exactly. I oversimplified it because A) it was already offtopic and B) I made my point anyway (that English and German are far more similar than English and other so-called romance languages.) ;)
In my opinion, this law (or one like it) is a Good Thing (tm).
I'm not so sure. I have mixed emotions. On one hand, it's a good thing for companies to have to notify customers of an actual breech because it will require them to take data security seriously and take actual steps to prevent theft or at least make the theft of the data useless to a thief.
The problem is that this extends to all companies worldwide. Honestly, I don't see how this can be avoided, but it further sets the precedent that the laws of one locality's whim affect the whole 'Net. That's a problem from a censorship standpoint especially in this politically correct age where anything offensive is basically considered okay to censor.
If people in say that blogs are offensive to them and anyone who runs a blog is subject to some sort of fine or tax on blogs, then Slashdot and various users that have journals on Slashdot could end up having to pay said fine or tax to people that locality. It sounds far-fetched, but it's laws like this that slowly erode away individual rights that will eventually lead to the death of the 'Net as we know it.
Of course, I could just be talking completely out my ass and have no idea what I'm saying because IANAL, so take this with a grain of salt if you will.
So yeah, it IS a good thing don't get me wrong, but the vagueness of the law combined with it's supposed worldwide reach do have me a little concerned.
Thanks! I'll be adding that to my Kmail filters right away! ;)
I'd say the Fish did a suprisingly good job with this, given it's history being useless as a tool for me to cheat with in Spanish class.
;).
It's not surprising, actually. While many people assume that English is based mostly on Latin, the fact is that English is a language that based partly on Latin and partly on German. The syntax for English is actually closer to German than to Latin, while the syntax for Spanish, French and other romantic languages is clearly closer to Latin (which is why when you learn Spanish, learning French or Italian [etc.] is a breeze
One thing I haven't really figured out: Is this what CygWin does? Does CygWin take advantage of the POSIX subsystem, or is everything emulated and interfaced via cygwin32.dll? I really suspect the latter actually, but I wouldn't be surprised if at least some parts of CygWin used the POSIX subsystem.
And I'll add in my belly button lint collection!
t doesn't help, either, that one of SCO's own people made a strong argument awhile back against the whole idea that Unix code could make it into the Linux kernel. Linus Torvalds found a Linux-kernel mailing list (lkml) posting from Christoph Hellwig, a former employee at SCO, then called Caldera. Hellwig pointed out the impracticality of actually getting copied code from UnixWare accepted by the tough critics on the mailing list. "The kernel internals are so different that you'd need a big glue layer to actually make it work and you can guess how that would be ripped apart in a usual lkml review," Hellwig wrote.
;)
Hmmmm...the kernel internals are so different...? But wait, if that's the case how did IBM copy SCO code into Linux...? Exactly. It didn't. Even a SCO employee says so.
SCO doesn't appear to be forcing Microsoft, so I can only come to the conclusion that Redmond is thinking of actually using that license, selling its own version of Unix. I wrote about something very similar to this a few months ago, only then I speculated that Microsoft might build a new OS atop Linux. But why use Linux when they could claim Unix, instead? The key here, I think, is the Windows emulation technology Microsoft got when it bought Connectix. Originally aimed at server consolidation, that code could be used by Microsoft to create and sell a Unix/Windows hybrid that would be a big success if Linux is killed by SCO. And the new Microsoft OS would even be a viable competitor to Linux if SCO loses, since it would offer Windows application compatibility. Microsoft could certainly use a sturdy server operating system for a change.
I never put those together until Cringely did, and ya know, Cringley could be on to something here. It's entirely possible that Microsoft staged this whole thing from day one. That would be the ultimate evil -- but then, again, wouldn't that be just like them? Yeah.
SCO doesn't have decades. They will run out of money to pay their lawyers well before then.
How could they NOT know?
;)
From the article:
How many lines of code in the Linux kernel are a direct copyright violation? It's very extensive. It is many different sections of code ranging from five to 10 to 15 lines of code in multiple places that are of issue, up to large blocks of code that have been inappropriately copied into Linux in violation of our source-code licensing contract. That's in the kernel itself, so it is significant. It is not a line or two here or there. It was quite a surprise for us.
Extensively? 10-15 lines of code in multiple places and large blocks of code? How could they NOT know? They distributed a custom-patched kernel with (at least AFAIK) Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 and 2.4, and probably all later versions as well, and maybe some earlier versions. I still have COL manuals and CDs laying around somewhere in my boxes of stuff.
No, you're right. They willfully distributed associated property under the GPL, and they have willfully violated the GPL. FSF and/or Linus should sue them for all their worth (which is more than you think, I think their market cap is only $75 mil or so). IBM should countersue, their work is in the Linux kernel too. I wouldn't be surprised if IBM did so, either.
No, really, I think SCO is fscked and has been fscked and this is their last dying gasp. They figure if they're gonna go out, they might as well go out in style, eh?
Yeah, let's /. SCO's stock! ;)
New mass hypnosis commercials in India: "Watch the pretty spiral. You will buy Microsoft software. Open Source software cannot be trusted. Buying Windows is your karma! You are a slave to the Office XP format!"
Yep. That's the one! ;) (You have to bear in mind back when I was into this scene, you *had* to be something of a programmer to setup a BBS. We didn't have these "insta BBS" packages back then.
Even if you were, you wouldn't be able to post...this story is obviously supposed to be 'mysterious future' post but it has a timestamp on it. This is weird.
;)
I'm sure we'll be seeing some sort of story explaining what's going on w/the changes on the front page (like the story that's blue). Right, Taco & Co.?
That's what subscribers see when a story is posted in "The Mysterious Future". Posting is generally not allowed.
;)
This must either be a bug, or else y'all got free subscriptions, in which case I'm complaining.
And I doubt that's a coincidence either considering that's exactly what the protocol seems to do.
... if you wanted access to the 'private' or 'elite' (we didn't use such silliness as 31337 ;) file sections, you had to know the sysop.
;) OTOH, maybe this is just the thing for people like us.
Now I've never read the book, but I'd say in an underground postal system every person in the system has to be trusted. Much like this protocol -- each node in the network needs to be trusted.
You have to build your own little underground network with a few trusted friends. This reminds me a lot of the pirate BBS days
This system allowed for only quality 'warez' files because everyone who was allowed to trade files had to be trusted, and therefore they weren't going to damage their reputation by sending crap like you get on P2P nowadays like incomplete packages or stuff that said it was one thing, but really was another thing. Back when trading pirated software was more like a gentlemen's agreement and not the 'o-D4Y \/\/4R3Z!!!!' crap pimply-faced teenagers with nothing better to do do today.
On the other hand, one has to think, 'Who needs it?' Most of us who were in that community back then have merged in with the Open Source community today and if we trade software at all it's with a CD burner over a cup of coffee.
Just a thought...
Yeah. That's like holding up a bank and demanding all their Burger King wrappers with the cheese still on them! ;)
Those truth in advertising laws are REALLY effective too. AOL is number 1 because it's the easiest to use (no, AOL is number 1 because it's the best at marketing), those ginsu knives really *can* cut through a solid steel block (uh huh), and OxyClean really willl get out ANY stain (um, no.)