Specifically, regarding your questions, if the sub didn't have the music you wanted, then where did this existing collection come from?;) It would seem that it would have SOME Of the music you wanted, but not all of it.
You could supplement it with iTunes of course, which requires no contract committment. No contract commitment is a key thing... it's one of the key features that got Sprint PCS going in the early days. Look at pay-as-you-go cellphones, too. People pay *extra* to use these in order to avoid a contract.
I don't know that this will fly... it might... it all depends on marketing. And no one in the industry does marketing quite as well as M$.;)
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btw, I would love to know how your cable modem gets 2MB!
Roadrunner. Bright House (nee Time Warner Cable) segments their cablemodem network by square block. I'm the only person on my block with a cablemodem.;)
4-5 hours including KDE, GNOME and Window managers and mozilla? I compiled KDE, gnomelibs and XFree in one big emerge (emerge kde, with GNOME and X in my USE clause), and when I went to bed at 11:30, I woke up at 5:30 and it was still compiling, just finishing up. That's 6 hours right there. I could see maybe doing all that in about 8, from the time you boot the LiveCD and partition the hard drives to finishing the last compile (not including OOo)
My 3 days includes all the necessary tweaking to get my nVidia GeForce working with accelerated drivers (which was not easy considering that certain builds nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx seem to be broken on XFree 4.3 and it took me a bit of searching to discover that, ultimately, the problem involved turning 'Allocate IRQ to PCI VGA' in the BIOS to 'ON' which I found confusing since I have an AGP nVidia card, and not a PCI nVidia card, but then again isn't AGP an extension of the PCI bus? grr... and having that turned off worked *fine* in Windows XP with nVidia's drivers, and also worked fine under XFree 4.2.1 with the OLD nvidia 3123 drivers, so I don't get it) and other things like my printer, M$ optical trackball, etc. working the way they should, plus apache and mysql and getting those setup to do development work, recompiling the kernel a few different times til I got framebuffer working (just so I can get tux to display while booting -- yippee;), etc.
Uh, mods? This guy is a troll. Can't you see that?
Stop throwing good money after bad on that trinity dies ISS as well, and use the collective resources of the two programs to start over. It's not true that the second design is always better than the first (see again ISS and Mir/Skylab) but you're wise to play those odds.
Yep, I was not talking about fraud. Fraud is separate matter and it goes without saying if you turn one bill into another (I would assume greater value) bill, you're breaking the law in any country. I really have no idea how things work in the EU, I'll admit. I was simply citing U.S. law, which of course doesn't apply here.;)
The problem with 'real world testing' when it comes to video cards aimed at the gamers market is basically the difference between a few lousy FPS between the two top-of-the-line cards (and each have similar features, performance-wise) will be virtually indistinguishable in most cases.
I think people shouldn't get all macho when it comes to this stuff. Honestly, it's like the difference between a 350 hp engine and a 351 hp engine. It doesn't amount to a hill of beans worth of difference except on paper.
Get over it people.
Re:Can the paranoia and defensiveness
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Hmmm...well, you're certainly entitled to fair use copying or peformance of your George Harrison CD. (IOW, you can legally make a copy in another storage format such as cassette tape or MP3 as long as it is for your own personal use and not for anyone else, or you can play the CD at a party, for instance) I would say, generally speaking, whatever rights the copyright holder (in the case of Linux, Linus through the GPL) has waived for you would still be waived for you. This is actually a tricky legal question and I doubt that there is any legal precedent for it...maybe you could still copy, but could you, for instance, make derivative works? What constitutes making a derivative work? What about kernel modules, or recompiling with different options? Since the GPL has never been tested in court, this would probably be left for a judge to decide, I guess.
I doubt it. The problem is that -- first off -- cash is a bearer instrument. That means it's legal tender for anybody that possesses it. You don't 'own' any of the cash in your pocket, the government does. So you have no legal right to deactivate the money. Burning cash or defacing it it anyway is a violation of federal law in most countries, including the U.S. (it's called 'destruction of government property').
Anyway, if that worked, there would be nothing to stop anybody from giving someone 'deactivated' bills especially since not everyone walks around with an RFID reader, nor is it likely that everyone will have one anytime soon. Then you just bought something using money that's basically worthless, at least at places that have RFID readers.
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My question wasn't meant to be whether users would be criminally liable, but whether the product they were using would be considered illegal and subject to any kind of claim by the copyright owner. In property law, one who purchases a stolen item isn't entitled to keep it once it is found to be hot, even if they bought it unaware.
Hmmm... say you own a legally purchased copy of the song 'My Sweet Lord' by George Harrison. This lawsuit comes up. Are you now required to return your copy of 'My Sweet Lord' because it is now considered 'stolen property'?
The answer is 'no, of course not.' Because copyright violation and theft, despite what the BSA wants you to think, are not the treated the same under the law. Copyright violation is not theft per se because it is a 'theft' of an expression of an idea, not the theft of physical property -- basically it's plagiarism. The plagiarizer is the liable party in this case. Copyright violation is also (generally) a civil matter, rather than a criminal matter. It's (literally) an infringement upon somone else's exclusive right to copy. Basically the party that causes damages to the copyright holder is the liable party.
I hope this makes sense to you because I feel like I'm babbling.;)
DASD = Direct Access Storage Device - fancy word for hard drive IPL = forget what this stands for but it's basically a current instruction pointer or something isn't it? MVS = IBM Mainframe OS don't know what it stands for JCL = Job Control Language - basically for running batch jobs RPG = Report Program Generator - language for getting reports out of databases OPA and XYZ I have no idea... I can make up some funny stuff if you like (Other People Asses, eXtra Yogurt Zaniness)
Some I have experience with RPG (I had a high school teacher who made me learn RPG II, he thought it would be a good idea for some reason I still can't figure out.... ). DASD (IBM used this term to refer to hard drives in its PS/2 line), MVS (I had a friend who was an OS/MVS programmer for AAA of Michigan), JCL (had some limited experience with this on an AS/400 [which is decidedly not a mainframe] once -- I personally find the language distasteful), the others, I dunno...picked 'em up from somehwere.
... a "Microsoft Bob" CD was stolen from a home in Wazoo, Nebraska. No one is exactly sure why anyone would want to steal either item. A police source was quoted as saying, "We're not sure what their motives are."
But then VA/Slashdot wouldn't make money like they do through the affiliate program when they link to the books, now would they?;) (Imagine how much money they would make if just 1/4 of all/. traffic clicked the 'service.bfast.com' affiliate link?)
Seriously, though RFC's have useful information, but don't offer any real-world wisdom. Books like this are an attempt by the author(s) to impart this on you by offering sage advice.
Of course, these books don't always give you everything either....they usually tend to lack the true technical depth that someone trying to do something original might need. OTOH, the reviewer seems both pleased that the authors go into some additional depth, but at the same time expresses disappointment (? maybe that's too strong a word) that you don't get all the depth you would get by reading the source documents. But then again, that's what citations are for.;)
This plan sounds great!! I can't stress how important it is for people to follow this plan. Especially people with corner offices or offices which have a really nice view.
You don't have convince the big company. Only the guy or gal who's running it, who's likely just another random geek like the rest of us.
The system could just have, oh I dunno, say some random hardware problem that takes 24 hours to fix, maybe due to availability of parts or trained staff or something. Or maybe the admin takes that day to do maintenance on the machine that must be done while the machine is temporarily down, and oh, BTW, the spare mirror doesn't seem to want to startup today due to crashed hard drive or something.
I like it! Yeah, pick a day, and everyone with a Linux or other Open Source-based host, router, e-mail server, DNS server, Web server, etc., turn your box off for that day -- or at least shutdown the Open Source program in question -- Apache, sendmail, postfix, BIND, whatever. Just one day. Watch the Internet crawl to its knees!
Not unlike Black Tuesday, and the Burn All Gifs campaign. Although neither of these completely solved the goals they were aiming for, you'll notice that PNG is becoming a vastly more popular format than GIF, and Black Tuesday *did* send a message that was heard loud and clear.
Take any software patent for example. Sure, it's patented, but some enterprising young college student (anyone for this matter) makes their own implementation of the patent and releases it on the web as Open Source (and/or Free) software anonymously. That implementation turns out to be really rather decent and becomes widespread, perhaps more widespread than the "official" implementation. Improvements and additions are added (anonymously) and the unofficial becomes the unofficial-official.
Your scenario doesn't work, except (maybe) with a BSD license. The problem with Free software licenses like the GPL is that they are hacks of copyright. For the GPL to work someone has to hold the copyright, otherwise there's no license contract. A license agreement is just that -- a contract. And you can't have a contract with someone who's identity is entirely unknown* to you. Hence, any software anonymously GPLed isn't GPLed at all, it's public domain.
So, why not let someone else hold the copyright, like the Free Software Foundation? Then the author isn't liable for patent infringement, the copyright holder is. There is basically very little, if any, legal distinction between the author of a program and the copyright holder.
Example: The GNU Midnight Commander is copyrighted by Free Software Foundation, so Miguel de Icaza basically has no legal right to the copyright title of the software. Miguel, MC's principal author, is in effect, a licensee of the program. As such, he's allowed to modify and redistribute it all he wants, but he can't legally redistribute MC under a different license, he can only redistribute it under the GPL. Only the Free Software Foundation can redistribute it under a different license (and fat chance of that ever happening).
So in your scenario, the Free Software Foundation would be liable.
It *might* work under a BSD license, but you really have the same scenario -- there is no license, because there's no copyright holder, so the software is basically treated as public domain. The only difference here is that there isn't much difference between a BSD license ans software that is really just pure public domain.
You could make it anonymously public domain, but then I don't know who has the liability at that point, because IANAL. Maybe the end-users?
* Okay, you can, sort of. With a software license, the licensor of the license doesn't, per se, have to know who the licensee is, because receipt and use of the software is what identifies the licensee. But going the other way around, you can't enter into a license agreement with a legal entity that basically doesn't exist.
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With Trusted Computing on the way, all M$ has to do is refuse to provide Apple with the proper signatures so that AMS will run on Windows. An old Microsoft saying goes 'DOS [Windows] isn't done until Lotus [Apple] won't run.'
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Microsoft?
Do you really expect Microsoft to sit idly by while Apple makes $$$$ hand over fist, winning over converts in the process?
Microsoft may not be the most ethical of companies, and they may not be the producer of the most stable or the most secure software in the world, but one thing they're not is stupid. If there's any money to be made in the software and Internet content businesses, you better believe Microsoft will be standing there making it. And the delivery system will be centered around the fully-DRM-enabled Windows Media Player and.Net technologies. Count on it.
My point exactly. It has nothing to do with the legality of the GPL, it has to do with virulence of the license and the large 'snowball effect' (as esr puts it) surrounding Linux.
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Didn't I predict this about 5 days ago. Yeah, I thought I did. ;)
;) It would seem that it would have SOME Of the music you wanted, but not all of it.
... it's one of the key features that got Sprint PCS going in the early days. Look at pay-as-you-go cellphones, too. People pay *extra* to use these in order to avoid a contract.
;)
Specifically, regarding your questions, if the sub didn't have the music you wanted, then where did this existing collection come from?
You could supplement it with iTunes of course, which requires no contract committment. No contract commitment is a key thing
I don't know that this will fly... it might... it all depends on marketing. And no one in the industry does marketing quite as well as M$.
btw, I would love to know how your cable modem gets 2MB!
;)
;), etc.
Roadrunner. Bright House (nee Time Warner Cable) segments their cablemodem network by square block. I'm the only person on my block with a cablemodem.
4-5 hours including KDE, GNOME and Window managers and mozilla? I compiled KDE, gnomelibs and XFree in one big emerge (emerge kde, with GNOME and X in my USE clause), and when I went to bed at 11:30, I woke up at 5:30 and it was still compiling, just finishing up. That's 6 hours right there. I could see maybe doing all that in about 8, from the time you boot the LiveCD and partition the hard drives to finishing the last compile (not including OOo)
My 3 days includes all the necessary tweaking to get my nVidia GeForce working with accelerated drivers (which was not easy considering that certain builds nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx seem to be broken on XFree 4.3 and it took me a bit of searching to discover that, ultimately, the problem involved turning 'Allocate IRQ to PCI VGA' in the BIOS to 'ON' which I found confusing since I have an AGP nVidia card, and not a PCI nVidia card, but then again isn't AGP an extension of the PCI bus? grr... and having that turned off worked *fine* in Windows XP with nVidia's drivers, and also worked fine under XFree 4.2.1 with the OLD nvidia 3123 drivers, so I don't get it) and other things like my printer, M$ optical trackball, etc. working the way they should, plus apache and mysql and getting those setup to do development work, recompiling the kernel a few different times til I got framebuffer working (just so I can get tux to display while booting -- yippee
Uh, mods? This guy is a troll. Can't you see that?
Stop throwing good money after bad on that trinity dies ISS as well, and use the collective resources of the two programs to start over. It's not true that the second design is always better than the first (see again ISS and Mir/Skylab) but you're wise to play those odds.
Yep, I was not talking about fraud. Fraud is separate matter and it goes without saying if you turn one bill into another (I would assume greater value) bill, you're breaking the law in any country. I really have no idea how things work in the EU, I'll admit. I was simply citing U.S. law, which of course doesn't apply here. ;)
The problem with 'real world testing' when it comes to video cards aimed at the gamers market is basically the difference between a few lousy FPS between the two top-of-the-line cards (and each have similar features, performance-wise) will be virtually indistinguishable in most cases.
I think people shouldn't get all macho when it comes to this stuff. Honestly, it's like the difference between a 350 hp engine and a 351 hp engine. It doesn't amount to a hill of beans worth of difference except on paper.
Get over it people.
Hmmm...well, you're certainly entitled to fair use copying or peformance of your George Harrison CD. (IOW, you can legally make a copy in another storage format such as cassette tape or MP3 as long as it is for your own personal use and not for anyone else, or you can play the CD at a party, for instance) I would say, generally speaking, whatever rights the copyright holder (in the case of Linux, Linus through the GPL) has waived for you would still be waived for you. This is actually a tricky legal question and I doubt that there is any legal precedent for it...maybe you could still copy, but could you, for instance, make derivative works? What constitutes making a derivative work? What about kernel modules, or recompiling with different options? Since the GPL has never been tested in court, this would probably be left for a judge to decide, I guess.
I doubt it. The problem is that -- first off -- cash is a bearer instrument. That means it's legal tender for anybody that possesses it. You don't 'own' any of the cash in your pocket, the government does. So you have no legal right to deactivate the money. Burning cash or defacing it it anyway is a violation of federal law in most countries, including the U.S. (it's called 'destruction of government property').
Anyway, if that worked, there would be nothing to stop anybody from giving someone 'deactivated' bills especially since not everyone walks around with an RFID reader, nor is it likely that everyone will have one anytime soon. Then you just bought something using money that's basically worthless, at least at places that have RFID readers.
My question wasn't meant to be whether users would be criminally liable, but whether the product they were using would be considered illegal and subject to any kind of claim by the copyright owner. In property law, one who purchases a stolen item isn't entitled to keep it once it is found to be hot, even if they bought it unaware.
;)
Hmmm... say you own a legally purchased copy of the song 'My Sweet Lord' by George Harrison. This lawsuit comes up. Are you now required to return your copy of 'My Sweet Lord' because it is now considered 'stolen property'?
The answer is 'no, of course not.' Because copyright violation and theft, despite what the BSA wants you to think, are not the treated the same under the law. Copyright violation is not theft per se because it is a 'theft' of an expression of an idea, not the theft of physical property -- basically it's plagiarism. The plagiarizer is the liable party in this case. Copyright violation is also (generally) a civil matter, rather than a criminal matter. It's (literally) an infringement upon somone else's exclusive right to copy. Basically the party that causes damages to the copyright holder is the liable party.
I hope this makes sense to you because I feel like I'm babbling.
More importantly, will the next version be called:
G-flat?
G?
G#?
A#?
A-flat?
or will someone finally get around to making P?
I know a few, but I'm no mainframe programmer:
... I can make up some funny stuff if you like (Other People Asses, eXtra Yogurt Zaniness)
DASD = Direct Access Storage Device - fancy word for hard drive
IPL = forget what this stands for but it's basically a current instruction pointer or something isn't it?
MVS = IBM Mainframe OS don't know what it stands for
JCL = Job Control Language - basically for running batch jobs
RPG = Report Program Generator - language for getting reports out of databases
OPA and XYZ I have no idea
Some I have experience with RPG (I had a high school teacher who made me learn RPG II, he thought it would be a good idea for some reason I still can't figure out.... ). DASD (IBM used this term to refer to hard drives in its PS/2 line), MVS (I had a friend who was an OS/MVS programmer for AAA of Michigan), JCL (had some limited experience with this on an AS/400 [which is decidedly not a mainframe] once -- I personally find the language distasteful), the others, I dunno...picked 'em up from somehwere.
... a "Microsoft Bob" CD was stolen from a home in Wazoo, Nebraska. No one is exactly sure why anyone would want to steal either item. A police source was quoted as saying, "We're not sure what their motives are."
But then VA/Slashdot wouldn't make money like they do through the affiliate program when they link to the books, now would they? ;) (Imagine how much money they would make if just 1/4 of all /. traffic clicked the 'service.bfast.com' affiliate link?)
;)
Seriously, though RFC's have useful information, but don't offer any real-world wisdom. Books like this are an attempt by the author(s) to impart this on you by offering sage advice.
Of course, these books don't always give you everything either....they usually tend to lack the true technical depth that someone trying to do something original might need. OTOH, the reviewer seems both pleased that the authors go into some additional depth, but at the same time expresses disappointment (? maybe that's too strong a word) that you don't get all the depth you would get by reading the source documents. But then again, that's what citations are for.
As long is it doesn't have an open finger port. And if it does, I don't want to know what he's gonna do with that.
I don't know what makes me more afraid: that you have a Microsoft Barney or that you just admitted it on Slashdot. ;)
Okay. Note to self: Get an 18 wheeler. ;)
This plan sounds great!! I can't stress how important it is for people to follow this plan. Especially people with corner offices or offices which have a really nice view.
:)
Damn it. You're on to me.
ummm...libpng.org? No wait, you said mainstream, ermm..ummm...
Okay, nevermind. Strike that. I looked. Hard. I couldn't find one.
Gotta put down this crack pipe...
You don't have convince the big company. Only the guy or gal who's running it, who's likely just another random geek like the rest of us.
The system could just have, oh I dunno, say some random hardware problem that takes 24 hours to fix, maybe due to availability of parts or trained staff or something. Or maybe the admin takes that day to do maintenance on the machine that must be done while the machine is temporarily down, and oh, BTW, the spare mirror doesn't seem to want to startup today due to crashed hard drive or something.
You get the picture.
I like it! Yeah, pick a day, and everyone with a Linux or other Open Source-based host, router, e-mail server, DNS server, Web server, etc., turn your box off for that day -- or at least shutdown the Open Source program in question -- Apache, sendmail, postfix, BIND, whatever. Just one day. Watch the Internet crawl to its knees!
Not unlike Black Tuesday, and the Burn All Gifs campaign. Although neither of these completely solved the goals they were aiming for, you'll notice that PNG is becoming a vastly more popular format than GIF, and Black Tuesday *did* send a message that was heard loud and clear.
I'm all for it. I'll do it! Who's in with me?
Take any software patent for example. Sure, it's patented, but some enterprising young college student (anyone for this matter) makes their own implementation of the patent and releases it on the web as Open Source (and/or Free) software anonymously. That implementation turns out to be really rather decent and becomes widespread, perhaps more widespread than the "official" implementation. Improvements and additions are added (anonymously) and the unofficial becomes the unofficial-official.
Your scenario doesn't work, except (maybe) with a BSD license. The problem with Free software licenses like the GPL is that they are hacks of copyright. For the GPL to work someone has to hold the copyright, otherwise there's no license contract. A license agreement is just that -- a contract. And you can't have a contract with someone who's identity is entirely unknown* to you. Hence, any software anonymously GPLed isn't GPLed at all, it's public domain.
So, why not let someone else hold the copyright, like the Free Software Foundation? Then the author isn't liable for patent infringement, the copyright holder is. There is basically very little, if any, legal distinction between the author of a program and the copyright holder.
Example: The GNU Midnight Commander is copyrighted by Free Software Foundation, so Miguel de Icaza basically has no legal right to the copyright title of the software. Miguel, MC's principal author, is in effect, a licensee of the program. As such, he's allowed to modify and redistribute it all he wants, but he can't legally redistribute MC under a different license, he can only redistribute it under the GPL. Only the Free Software Foundation can redistribute it under a different license (and fat chance of that ever happening).
So in your scenario, the Free Software Foundation would be liable.
It *might* work under a BSD license, but you really have the same scenario -- there is no license, because there's no copyright holder, so the software is basically treated as public domain. The only difference here is that there isn't much difference between a BSD license ans software that is really just pure public domain.
You could make it anonymously public domain, but then I don't know who has the liability at that point, because IANAL. Maybe the end-users?
* Okay, you can, sort of. With a software license, the licensor of the license doesn't, per se, have to know who the licensee is, because receipt and use of the software is what identifies the licensee. But going the other way around, you can't enter into a license agreement with a legal entity that basically doesn't exist.
With Trusted Computing on the way, all M$ has to do is refuse to provide Apple with the proper signatures so that AMS will run on Windows. An old Microsoft saying goes 'DOS [Windows] isn't done until Lotus [Apple] won't run.'
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Now please stop trolling me. Thank you.
MySQL with InnoDB tables supports foreign key contrants and uses transactions. In fact, a site you may have heard a thing or two about uses MySQL with InnoDB tables.
Microsoft?
.Net technologies. Count on it.
Do you really expect Microsoft to sit idly by while Apple makes $$$$ hand over fist, winning over converts in the process?
Microsoft may not be the most ethical of companies, and they may not be the producer of the most stable or the most secure software in the world, but one thing they're not is stupid. If there's any money to be made in the software and Internet content businesses, you better believe Microsoft will be standing there making it. And the delivery system will be centered around the fully-DRM-enabled Windows Media Player and
My point exactly. It has nothing to do with the legality of the GPL, it has to do with virulence of the license and the large 'snowball effect' (as esr puts it) surrounding Linux.