If they were, farmers would have to give food to anyone who wanted it w/o paying for it,
They pretty much already do. Have you seen the prices that farmers get for grain, as opposed to the middleman marketing boards? That box of cornflakes you pay $4.99 for has about 20 cents of corn for the farmer in it.
Jesus, a miracle working dude of magical incarnation, existence, actions and exeunt... you could hardly be more stand-out in a crowd... well, as it turns out no one -- NO ONE -- from his time even noticed him enough to write down "cured a leper." That all came later. As the evidence to date indicates, anyway. Doesn't that strike you as... at least curious? Magic dude inspires NO reaction? And then there's the story, which indicates the opposite: he made quite a splash, according to the gospels. Something seems definitely wrong here.
You've got a point, but consider this:
The people that Jesus made the biggest splash with, according to those gospels, were the poor, the destitute, the peasants, hookers, tax collectors, fishermen, etc. 2000 years ago, in Roman occupied Israel, the only people who were literate were the religious elite and nobility. Well, the religious elite hated his guts, because he was upsetting the comfortable living they were making through....ahem....guiding the plebes in the complexities of Judaism. The nobility hated his guts because he was being proclaimed a king, and they didn't want anyone challenging their throne.
Somebody who hates him isn't likely to write "This great guy is here, and he's supposed to be the Messiah! Praise Jesus!!" Instead, they're going to try to bury him in history, and make him disappear.
Now, I realize the lack of evidence is not evidence in itself, but it also doesn't mean that it can't be true, just because there isn't much hard evidence for it.
Great-Great Grandparents were probably born ~100 years ago.
Only for a newborn who's parentage for 5 generations back had kids at 20.
I doubt a newborn is posting on/., and I doubt you could find a single family like that.
My kids are 5 and (almost) 2. Their grandparents on my side were born in the 30s. My mother's parents were born in the 1890s. That's 120 years, and there's still another generation to go.
I'm not sure all the records from the 1860s are going to be that easy to come by. Sure, some of them will, but certainly not records of some peasant carpenter's son who was born in a barn.
You're just going "LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!" and adding on "I WIN because YOU FAIL" without any sort of evidence to back you up at all, other than regurgitated bullshit that's already been shot down.
Why should I disprove what you wrote for a fourth time, when you haven't even addressed any of my points even once?
You've ignored all my repeated proofs so far, with your hands over your ears going "LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!", so why should I do the same thing again, just for you to ignore again?
The first post you linked to, I've already refuted everything in it. Again, you chose to ignore it.
The second post is this little literary thing called "hyperbole". Maybe you've heard of it. Since you claim to be such a computer genius, maybe you know how to look it up using this little thing called Google. Maybe you've heard of it?
No, of course, to ALL of the above for you!
There you go again, making assumptions. My opinion of you as having delusions of grandeur is protected free speech. You claiming as fact that I don't have a PhD or experience in these things is libel if it's not true. Do you really want to go there? The only person at risk of legal action here is you.
P.S.=> HOWEVER - The funniest one was your "1st attempt here" @ doing so, when YOU partially quoted me to TRY to save face, & only blew it once again too
Really? You're still trying to use that partial quote of mine to justify yourself? That's pathetic. It's already been completely refuted multiple times by me, so you haven't got a leg to stand on, and you know it.
You're allowed to your opinion, and I'm allowed to have an opinion on your opinion. Just don't start trying to state things as fact, because it can get you into trouble. Especially when you seem to know less than you think, like you do, and have a hot temper to boot.
I also never said it was a "bunch of people" - it's just YOU, using sock-puppet alternate registered accounts
No, you're wrong. It's a bunch of people. Pretty much everybody on this board has a similar opinion of you. It's no surprise that the vast majority of them are agreeing with me. And as far as others having "told me off repeatedly". Really? They seem to know things that only you would realistically know. Like following a thread on an ancient (by/. standards) story. Then hunting me down somewhere else to "tell me off" about what I said. I know it's you.
Although I don't see the point in providing dignity to someone who repeatedly strips it away from themselves with their paranoid rantings.
And as far as being dignified myself? Well, I've never been much for pomp and formalities. If I think you're an idiot, I'll say you're an idiot. Call a spade a spade, and all that.
I do think apk is a loser, so I said it. Did I say it in the best way I could? Well, maybe not. But the message is still the same.
Talk about an offtopic post. I think you're in the wrong story here, apk.
You really need to think when you astroturf, apk. You're not fooling anyone. You're seriously trying to say that you're a random anonymous surfer who happened upon a thread in a 3 week old story, and then went to a completely different story to post a comment about that thread?
You only baited him with your immature taunts because he upset your sensibilities by pointing out that your CD was unnecessary for killing the unkillable rootkit using what most everyone has a copy of in a Windows installation CD or DVD
"Everyone" is a big word. It implies that all those millions (probably billions) of people who bought a name-brand system - with a recovery partition, rather than a CD - don't exist. It also implies that all those people that bought a system with Windows XP Pro Corporate VLK installed on it due to a "special deal with Microsoft" that the seller had, don't exist.
and that he had methods using process explorer that killed the botnet portion operating in usermode also. I read what was written and you tried to twist what he said into saying he was using process explorer and tcpview for detecting rookits. He never said that and you could not produce proof of he even implying it, let alone a direct explicit quote.
You included both botnets and rootkits in the same sentence, using Process Explorer and Recovery Console as the tools to eliminate these. There was no attempt to differentiate the two tools from each other as far as their use was concerned. Paraphrased, you said "When standard tools fail, for botnets and rootkits, I use Recovery Console and Process Explorer." I did quote this, and you chose to ignore it. I also quoted another statement which implied the same thing. You chose to ignore this, also.
Just because you choose to ignore evidence that's placed in front of you if it conflicts with your polka-dotted sky worldview, does not mean there is a problem with my argument.
You also later said he said to use process explorer to kill the rootkit. When he challenged you to produce a quote of him saying that explicitly you could not.
I never once accused you of saying process explorer would kill the rootkit. That's even too stupid for you to claim. I think I'd remember if you made that claim.
He said you have reading problems. I'd be inclined to agree, except for the fact your posting history shows you harping on hosts files and immediately afterwards sock puppets obviously of yours in alternate registered user accounts support you? Please. Give us a break. We're not that stupid.
Since you're reading my posting history, see my previous post on Psychology 101 pop quiz. I have two accounts on/. One of these is this one, and the other is...I can't even remember the name of it, as I haven't logged in to it for about a year. It's something to do with Jack Thompson and his crusade against video games, though. Again, the fact that everyone thinks you're a crackpot doesn't mean they're all sock puppet accounts. It usually means that you are, indeed, a crackpot.
And spare me the BS about "You need a psychology PhD and a proper exam done in controlled conditions, otherwise you're libeling me!!" "Crackpot" isn't a medical term. Neither is "nuts" which somebody previously used to describe you. They're quite obviously opinions, and opinion is not libel. It's protected speech. If somebody described you as criminally insane, you might have a case, but tossing around barbs like has been done so far is perfectly legal.
You point out that your cd allegedly can remotely do the same, but that's not proven, nor is it even known it can.
Seriously? You're scraping pretty low to come up with something against me if that's the best you can do. You haven't proven that you're apk, either. (I know, I know....
Hey, apk. Nice to talk to you. To answer your question, I'm only a jerk to people who are abusive themselves, amd have shown they have no chance of being useful for anything else...
Psychology 101 pop quiz time:
You think a bunch of people from around the world are actually 1 person attacking you with dozens of pseudonyms. Which of these is most likely the truth:
1. A bunch of different people around the world have conspired to attack you. 2. The different identities are in fact pseudonyms, and it is a single person who is attacking you using them. 3. You're consumed by paranoid delusions, and the people attacking you are actually a bunch of people simply making fun of you because of your delusional fantasies, which you continually foist on anyone who's not interested.
Nope. Not Belgian. I'm a Canadian with British parents. I definitely have the British sense of humour (Yorkshire. Not those pompous stuffed shirts in the south...) I'm also a musician.
I definitely qualify as strange, and weird. Maybe not dangerous, but that probably depends on your point of view.:)
the country were spelling is more important than social security,
Really? Not trying to be a spelling nazi, but I just find that humourous.:)
Everything beyond the hill is strange, dangerous and full of weird folk
I think they're right on this one. Of course, what they don't mention is that everything this side of the hill is strange, dangerous, and full of weird folk...
Well, your first sentence is an outright lie, so what does that tell us about the rest of your post? In your paranoid delusions, you made the assumption that I didn't write it myself, because that would have conflicted with your polka dotted sky worldview that you're the only one in the universe capable of turning a computer on. I just didn't correct you, because I was enjoying the complete ass you were making of yourself.
(Once I was pointed out your CD wasn't needed & obsolete against that rootkit, YOU got pissed off!
Pissed off? lolwut? I was laughing my ass off at the stupendously moronic things you were posting. I could just imagine every post, you pounding on your keyboard harder and harder, as your mouth is foaming in rage that I dare challenge your 1337 5k1llz.
Besides, I'm pretty sure it's you that's pissed. You're pissed that I can run the recovery console on a non-bootable computer remotely, without any special hardware or tech knowledge on the end users part, and you have no freaking clue how I do it. And that just burns you up, doesn't it?
"Will it get rid of an MBR rootkit? Yes. Will it get rid of a driver-based rootkit with a discrete.sys file for the driver? Yes." - by cbiltcliffe (186293)
There you go again, conveniently removing the part where I said it won't work against a rootkit that patches legitimate driver files. I wonder why you felt the need to do that? Maybe because you know I'm right, and leaving it in would cause a paradox in your head, making your brain (what's left of it, anyway) melt?
So your first three points have been blown out of the water. I'm not going to bother continuing, because it's just more of the same.
Oooooh! You can write a program to reverse a text string! I cower from the obvious supremacy of your 1337 programming skillz!!! HAHAHAHA I bet you pulled that off the Internet with Google, because you couldn't even figure it out yourself!
* Is THAT the "best you've got" troll? Because you surely didn't do to well in the next 2 links below... now did you? Nope... lol!
I love how the best you can do is link to your own posts, with my statements cut down and taken out of context, because that's the only way you can twist them to say what you need them to say.
Like when I supposedly "agreed" with you that your method of moving rootkits works. You conveniently left off the part of my statement where I tell the type of rootkit it doesn't work against, because that's the only way a loser like you can feel like you won an argument.
What? Do you just hope that people won't read back in the thread to see what I actually said? Everybody on this board knows your too much of a douche to take anything you say at face value.
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Why not click a hot link instead?
Because usually they lead to either a Rick Roll, or goatse?
That sentence makes perfect sense. Get over it.
It's not Taco's fault you're illiterate...
Or you could just use html entities, like the rest of us do...
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Seems to work fine for me...
"amazing glowing, zapping, popping from the pure anti-matter contained in every bite!"
That would certainly give you a kick to wake you up in the morning....
My friend would qualify but his kids are not in school yet, and his oldest won't be for 2 years. So he and is family have to wait 2 years, what BS....
And by then, the price will probably have been "normalized" to $24.95.
If they were, farmers would have to give food to anyone who wanted it w/o paying for it,
They pretty much already do. Have you seen the prices that farmers get for grain, as opposed to the middleman marketing boards?
That box of cornflakes you pay $4.99 for has about 20 cents of corn for the farmer in it.
But think of the latency!
I don't know...I can drive pretty fast...
Jesus, a miracle working dude of magical incarnation, existence, actions and exeunt... you could hardly be more stand-out in a crowd... well, as it turns out no one -- NO ONE -- from his time even noticed him enough to write down "cured a leper." That all came later. As the evidence to date indicates, anyway. Doesn't that strike you as... at least curious? Magic dude inspires NO reaction? And then there's the story, which indicates the opposite: he made quite a splash, according to the gospels. Something seems definitely wrong here.
You've got a point, but consider this:
The people that Jesus made the biggest splash with, according to those gospels, were the poor, the destitute, the peasants, hookers, tax collectors, fishermen, etc. 2000 years ago, in Roman occupied Israel, the only people who were literate were the religious elite and nobility.
Well, the religious elite hated his guts, because he was upsetting the comfortable living they were making through....ahem....guiding the plebes in the complexities of Judaism. The nobility hated his guts because he was being proclaimed a king, and they didn't want anyone challenging their throne.
Somebody who hates him isn't likely to write "This great guy is here, and he's supposed to be the Messiah! Praise Jesus!!"
Instead, they're going to try to bury him in history, and make him disappear.
Now, I realize the lack of evidence is not evidence in itself, but it also doesn't mean that it can't be true, just because there isn't much hard evidence for it.
Great-Great Grandparents were probably born ~100 years ago.
Only for a newborn who's parentage for 5 generations back had kids at 20.
I doubt a newborn is posting on /., and I doubt you could find a single family like that.
My kids are 5 and (almost) 2. Their grandparents on my side were born in the 30s. My mother's parents were born in the 1890s. That's 120 years, and there's still another generation to go.
I'm not sure all the records from the 1860s are going to be that easy to come by. Sure, some of them will, but certainly not records of some peasant carpenter's son who was born in a barn.
Nowhere in your description did you include the part where you explained to them about trespassing.
What part of "The owners of this property have asked that you be removed" didn't you understand?
No, apk, you're not running away.
You're just going "LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!" and adding on "I WIN because YOU FAIL" without any sort of evidence to back you up at all, other than regurgitated bullshit that's already been shot down.
Which is just as bad.
Why should I disprove what you wrote for a fourth time, when you haven't even addressed any of my points even once?
You've ignored all my repeated proofs so far, with your hands over your ears going "LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!", so why should I do the same thing again, just for you to ignore again?
The first post you linked to, I've already refuted everything in it. Again, you chose to ignore it.
The second post is this little literary thing called "hyperbole". Maybe you've heard of it. Since you claim to be such a computer genius, maybe you know how to look it up using this little thing called Google. Maybe you've heard of it?
No, of course, to ALL of the above for you!
There you go again, making assumptions. My opinion of you as having delusions of grandeur is protected free speech. You claiming as fact that I don't have a PhD or experience in these things is libel if it's not true. Do you really want to go there?
The only person at risk of legal action here is you.
P.S.=> HOWEVER - The funniest one was your "1st attempt here" @ doing so, when YOU partially quoted me to TRY to save face, & only blew it once again too
Really? You're still trying to use that partial quote of mine to justify yourself? That's pathetic. It's already been completely refuted multiple times by me, so you haven't got a leg to stand on, and you know it.
Pot calling the kettle black again, Forrest? See here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2326772&cid=36781858 [slashdot.org]
You're allowed to your opinion, and I'm allowed to have an opinion on your opinion. Just don't start trying to state things as fact, because it can get you into trouble. Especially when you seem to know less than you think, like you do, and have a hot temper to boot.
I also never said it was a "bunch of people" - it's just YOU, using sock-puppet alternate registered accounts
No, you're wrong. It's a bunch of people. Pretty much everybody on this board has a similar opinion of you. It's no surprise that the vast majority of them are agreeing with me. /. standards) story. Then hunting me down somewhere else to "tell me off" about what I said. I know it's you.
And as far as others having "told me off repeatedly". Really? They seem to know things that only you would realistically know. Like following a thread on an ancient (by
I guess that did go a little far.
Although I don't see the point in providing dignity to someone who repeatedly strips it away from themselves with their paranoid rantings.
And as far as being dignified myself? Well, I've never been much for pomp and formalities. If I think you're an idiot, I'll say you're an idiot. Call a spade a spade, and all that.
I do think apk is a loser, so I said it. Did I say it in the best way I could? Well, maybe not. But the message is still the same.
Talk about an offtopic post. I think you're in the wrong story here, apk.
You really need to think when you astroturf, apk. You're not fooling anyone. You're seriously trying to say that you're a random anonymous surfer who happened upon a thread in a 3 week old story, and then went to a completely different story to post a comment about that thread?
You only baited him with your immature taunts because he upset your sensibilities by pointing out that your CD was unnecessary for killing the unkillable rootkit using what most everyone has a copy of in a Windows installation CD or DVD
"Everyone" is a big word. It implies that all those millions (probably billions) of people who bought a name-brand system - with a recovery partition, rather than a CD - don't exist. It also implies that all those people that bought a system with Windows XP Pro Corporate VLK installed on it due to a "special deal with Microsoft" that the seller had, don't exist.
and that he had methods using process explorer that killed the botnet portion operating in usermode also. I read what was written and you tried to twist what he said into saying he was using process explorer and tcpview for detecting rookits. He never said that and you could not produce proof of he even implying it, let alone a direct explicit quote.
You included both botnets and rootkits in the same sentence, using Process Explorer and Recovery Console as the tools to eliminate these. There was no attempt to differentiate the two tools from each other as far as their use was concerned. Paraphrased, you said "When standard tools fail, for botnets and rootkits, I use Recovery Console and Process Explorer." I did quote this, and you chose to ignore it. I also quoted another statement which implied the same thing. You chose to ignore this, also.
Just because you choose to ignore evidence that's placed in front of you if it conflicts with your polka-dotted sky worldview, does not mean there is a problem with my argument.
You also later said he said to use process explorer to kill the rootkit. When he challenged you to produce a quote of him saying that explicitly you could not.
I never once accused you of saying process explorer would kill the rootkit. That's even too stupid for you to claim. I think I'd remember if you made that claim.
He said you have reading problems. I'd be inclined to agree, except for the fact your posting history shows you harping on hosts files and immediately afterwards sock puppets obviously of yours in alternate registered user accounts support you? Please. Give us a break. We're not that stupid.
Since you're reading my posting history, see my previous post on Psychology 101 pop quiz. I have two accounts on /. One of these is this one, and the other is...I can't even remember the name of it, as I haven't logged in to it for about a year. It's something to do with Jack Thompson and his crusade against video games, though. Again, the fact that everyone thinks you're a crackpot doesn't mean they're all sock puppet accounts. It usually means that you are, indeed, a crackpot.
And spare me the BS about "You need a psychology PhD and a proper exam done in controlled conditions, otherwise you're libeling me!!" "Crackpot" isn't a medical term. Neither is "nuts" which somebody previously used to describe you. They're quite obviously opinions, and opinion is not libel. It's protected speech. If somebody described you as criminally insane, you might have a case, but tossing around barbs like has been done so far is perfectly legal.
You point out that your cd allegedly can remotely do the same, but that's not proven, nor is it even known it can.
Seriously? You're scraping pretty low to come up with something against me if that's the best you can do. You haven't proven that you're apk, either. (I know, I know....
Hey, apk. Nice to talk to you.
To answer your question, I'm only a jerk to people who are abusive themselves, amd have shown they have no chance of being useful for anything else...
Psychology 101 pop quiz time:
You think a bunch of people from around the world are actually 1 person attacking you with dozens of pseudonyms. Which of these is most likely the truth:
1. A bunch of different people around the world have conspired to attack you.
2. The different identities are in fact pseudonyms, and it is a single person who is attacking you using them.
3. You're consumed by paranoid delusions, and the people attacking you are actually a bunch of people simply making fun of you because of your delusional fantasies, which you continually foist on anyone who's not interested.
"out-of-town"
Interesting that you put it in quotes.
I think "out-of-town" == "from the mother planet"
I happen to think APK baiting is fun?
You obviously don't see the humour in it. I apologize if you think it's a waste of /. database space.
Others have commented to finding it funny, so it's all a matter of perspective, I guess.
Nope. Not Belgian. I'm a Canadian with British parents. I definitely have the British sense of humour (Yorkshire. Not those pompous stuffed shirts in the south...) I'm also a musician.
I definitely qualify as strange, and weird. Maybe not dangerous, but that probably depends on your point of view. :)
the country were spelling is more important than social security,
Really? Not trying to be a spelling nazi, but I just find that humourous. :)
Everything beyond the hill is strange, dangerous and full of weird folk
I think they're right on this one. Of course, what they don't mention is that everything this side of the hill is strange, dangerous, and full of weird folk...
Ok...let's look at your twisted "summary" post:
Your CD you didn't write the tools for yourself..
Well, your first sentence is an outright lie, so what does that tell us about the rest of your post?
In your paranoid delusions, you made the assumption that I didn't write it myself, because that would have conflicted with your polka dotted sky worldview that you're the only one in the universe capable of turning a computer on. I just didn't correct you, because I was enjoying the complete ass you were making of yourself.
(Once I was pointed out your CD wasn't needed & obsolete against that rootkit, YOU got pissed off!
Pissed off? lolwut? I was laughing my ass off at the stupendously moronic things you were posting. I could just imagine every post, you pounding on your keyboard harder and harder, as your mouth is foaming in rage that I dare challenge your 1337 5k1llz.
Besides, I'm pretty sure it's you that's pissed. You're pissed that I can run the recovery console on a non-bootable computer remotely, without any special hardware or tech knowledge on the end users part, and you have no freaking clue how I do it. And that just burns you up, doesn't it?
"Will it get rid of an MBR rootkit? Yes. Will it get rid of a driver-based rootkit with a discrete .sys file for the driver? Yes." - by cbiltcliffe (186293)
There you go again, conveniently removing the part where I said it won't work against a rootkit that patches legitimate driver files. I wonder why you felt the need to do that? Maybe because you know I'm right, and leaving it in would cause a paradox in your head, making your brain (what's left of it, anyway) melt?
So your first three points have been blown out of the water. I'm not going to bother continuing, because it's just more of the same.
Counselling? Therapy? For poking fun at a belligerent idiot?
Yeah....you're definitely apk.
Although it is unusual that you're able to make a short post without all sorts of bizarre formatting....
Why do you feel the need to astroturf your own posts, apk? Is that the only way you can get a post to agree with your insane viewpoint?
Oooooh! You can write a program to reverse a text string! I cower from the obvious supremacy of your 1337 programming skillz!!! HAHAHAHA I bet you pulled that off the Internet with Google, because you couldn't even figure it out yourself!
* Is THAT the "best you've got" troll? Because you surely didn't do to well in the next 2 links below... now did you? Nope... lol!
I love how the best you can do is link to your own posts, with my statements cut down and taken out of context, because that's the only way you can twist them to say what you need them to say.
Like when I supposedly "agreed" with you that your method of moving rootkits works. You conveniently left off the part of my statement where I tell the type of rootkit it doesn't work against, because that's the only way a loser like you can feel like you won an argument.
What? Do you just hope that people won't read back in the thread to see what I actually said? Everybody on this board knows your too much of a douche to take anything you say at face value.
HAHAHAHA
Loser!!
What's the matter, apk? Don't know what hyperbole is?
Taking the untenable position of your debate opponent to ridiculous extremes to show the lunacy of it is a perfectly valid debate method.
You don't even astroturf well, because all your sock puppet accounts get banned for posting the same illogical claptrap that your AC posts do.
What colour's the sunset in that polka dotted sky world you live in?
HAHAHA loser!