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NH Man Arrested For Videotaping Police.. Again
OhPlz writes "Back in 2006, a resident of New Hampshire's second largest city was arrested while at the police station attempting to file a complaint against officers. His crime? He had video tape evidence of the officers' wrongdoings. According to the police, that's wiretapping. After world wide attention, the police dropped the charges. His complaint was found to be valid, but the evidence never saw the light of day. Well, guess what? Round two. There are differing reports, but again the police arrested Mr. Gannon and again, they seized his video camera. This time it's 'falsifying evidence' because he tried to hand off the camera, most likely to protect its contents. If there's the potential of police wrongdoing, how is it that the law permits the police to seize the evidence?"
What do you mean police wrongdoing? Can you use those two words in a sentence?
... I reckon "die" is all that's left.
Dog is my co-pilot.
Evidence of what? Evidence of him having videotaped officers? This makes as much sense as when the police arrest someone on the sole charge of "resisting arrest." He was resisting arrest. Why were you arresting him? For resisting arrest. Do they really think anyone buys that?
We are moving at an avalanche pace towards a police state!
It's quite obvious. Cops are here to serve and protect, themselves, above all else. You don't take videotaped evidence of police wrongdoing to the police, that's the last thing you do. You think there would have been riots in LA had there not been a helicopter overhead filming police beating the shit out of Rodney King? Dashcam footage of that beating would have never seen the light of day. First thing you do when you have video evidence of police wrongdoing, you upload it to the internet. Plain and simple.
Hmm... sounds like an open and shut case of civil rights violation under color of law. Too bad Attorney General Eric Holder doesn't care about civil rights for white people.
It's the GOLDEN RULE.
The one with the gold makes the rules.
Pick up that can, citizen.
If they can try to take your cameras, imagine what they'll do to guns?
Because they're smart, we're dumb; they're big, we're small; they're right, we're wrong, and there's nothing we can do about it.
Look it up.
Once when I was 16 and a huge smartass, I yelled, "I smell bacon!" out the window of a car I was a passenger in. There was a cop on the side of the road that had someone pulled over. I see him drop everything, run back to his car and get back into it. I thought there was no way he would ever catch us, and anyway I thought yelling out the window was not illegal. He didn't try to catch us - instead he radioed ahead to someone else who pulled us over within a few minutes. The cop comes up to the car, says, "Which one of you yelled, 'I'm going to kill you fucking cops'"? We played it off like it was the radio and said nobody yelled that out the window. Anyway, they took all our names, made us get out of the car, the whole nine yards. For yelling, "I smell bacon" at a cop. I guess we were luck we didn't get beat up, tazed, maced and put in jail like this guy.
I'm a big tall mofo.
did he post the video online for us all to see? at least it can't be destroyed by the dirty cops. If what they did was bad enough then people should see it.
If people, especially authorities can't be recorded when in public, then there is nothing to prevent them from abusing their authority, doing anything they wish, and lying about it. I most places around the US, the police video tape the public every time they stop a vehicle. The public has the same right, no matter what laws they try to create or enforce to prevent you from taping them. When they're in public, you have the right to record their actions. If not, then you're already living in a police state.
make imaginary.friends COUNT=100 VISIBLE=false
So, what happened to this bastion on libertarianism I heard so much about? Oh, well, at least I won't need to look for work up there anymore.
Any sufficiently advanced influence is indistinguishable from control.
We need a "National Record the Police in Public Day". I think that a public event like this would enforce the point far more strongly that the police losing an occasional lawsuit.
This time it's 'falsifying evidence' because he tried to hand off the camera
Preserving it is falsifying it? Orwell had nothing on this.
Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
The feature I love most about Google+ is that, as soon as I take a picture or a video on my Android phone, it is immediately uploaded to my Google+ account, without any further action on my part. Suddenly, having control of the device isn't enough to guarantee that you have control of the data.
NASHUA – Maybe Michael Gannon shouldn’t have given lip to two police detectives that afternoon.
But Gannon claims he wouldn’t have said a word on July 1 if a detective – unprovoked, Gannon said – hadn’t shouted something at him as their unmarked police car passed by on Canal Street.
Sounds like a couple of douche bags yelling at each other. The police should not be yelling anything at anyone unless it is part of their job and Mr. Gannon should just learn to ignore stupid comments. If either of these two people had the slightest bit of decorum, it would be a non-issue.
However, Mr. Gannon will win. The police don't seem to have much of a case to stop him in the first place. And while being a douche is dumb, it is not against the law.
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Isn't falsifying evidence when you give false evidence? How is trying to preserve your own evidence by keeping it away from the police classified as falsifying evidence?
These police officers were way out of line. Sounds like they can dish out their own insults, but they can't take it. They should both receive mandatory anger management and be kicked off the police force for using excessive force. I mean, what do you do when the police act like criminals -- just play along and let them bully you? Actions like these make people afraid of the police, and that has terrible consequences for community policing.
I'm pretty sure Mr. Gannon is right: he does have a right to video tape anyone in public, including the police. AFAIK, the rule there is that if there is an expectation of privacy, you can't record people and use it as evidence. But on a public street, there is no expectation of privacy.
But I wonder if there is another reason for why he ditched the camera. Maybe it was because it would condemn him instead of the police. The article doesn't really tell both sides of the story, so that is possible. I guess we'll see after the contents of the video are made public.
At the of the article the writer pens...
It is illegal to videotape a conversation without the person’s permission.
There isn't an ounce of truth in this. I work in post production for a reality TV company out in LaLa Land, and we film people without their consent all the time. We even air their conversations on national television! The only thing we can't do is show their face--if they opted not to sign one of our releases on the spot. But there is nothing illegal about possessing footage that was shot in public without someone's consent.
What's even more confusing to me is how can police enforce this law if they break it every day. Most police cruisers have video cameras mounted in their car, and these cameras capture audio (ever watch Cops?). So...if you can't videotape a conversation without first having permission from each party, shouldn't the officer be required to notify anyone he pulls over, even if its for a simple moving violation, that the traffic stop is being recorded? (Would help to know especially if you are likely to have a Miranda Warning read to you later on.)
But alas, I bet the good ol 5-0 have drawn up some sort of loop hole that states if you get pulled over, you wave your rights to not be filmed. But that still seems very farfetched.
I wonder how long before there will be iphone and android emergency apps which record a video
and instantly upload (stream) it to the internet. I suggest the names: Evidence, Police Check Mate, Truthful
Police, Little Brother.
If you develop this app please *do not* credit me with the idea...
Everything that he videotapes should be wirelessly streamed to his computer as it happens, so confiscating the camera would be entirely moot.
Or, he could have a lot of fun and get an implant that records everything he sees and hears.
Let's see them confiscate that!
I thought this is the sort of thing the DA's office was for?
Fuck The Police
I guess I can cross New Hampshire off the states to consider moving to as a semi-pro photojournalist. Not that I was seriously considering them.
Let's see who else is on that list so far. Kansas, Alabama, Arizona... any other suggestions?
by Anonymous Coward: I, for one, welcome the shift from car analogies to pizza analogies. um.. overlords?
Time to arrest those detectives and put them behind bars permanently.
They are time bombs waiting to go off, they will eventually kill to keep someone from exposing their crimes.
Seems so odd this is happening in NH.
'according to police, thats wiretapping'.
i dont remember any police force in any country having been given the authority to interpret laws. attorneys, lawyers, judges exist for a reason.
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Among these are abuse of "wire tapping" laws which must be reformed in states that require two party consent. Recording public events is not and should never be considered wire tapping. Where is the wire? Where was it being tapped?
This case needs to go to trial and speedily. Police dropping charges only means that they are free to continue their harassment and terrorizing.
People need to make copies of their videos before presenting them as evidence anywhere. One should go to the FBI, others to news organizations and still more somewhere online. (There must be a service somewhere that allows hosting of large encrypted files which can then be made available to all with a key file kinda like the wikileaks thing.)
All of this wrong really gets under my skin sometimes. When you have to defend yourself against police, things have gone way too far.
I like New Hampshire. "Live Free or Die". New Hampshire used to stamp it into the license plates on every car. I liked that. I also liked The Old Man of the Mountain.
Now, i like this guy. Balls made of granite.
Sorry but this dude is asking for it. He has a similar last name to the bad guy from the Zelda games. The cops are doing us a favor. Think of the children!
Wiretapping? Why not call it tax evasion, or driving while under the influence of drugs? They all have absolutely nothing to do with videotaping police.
What "wire" was "tapped"?
I fought the law, by the Dead Kennedies sums up this situation.
They can do whatever they want. Don't think otherwise. Who's going to stop them? They can plant some dope and you'll be in the joint for as long as it takes to break you. They can (and will) break your face, shoulders and wrists.
Even if you don't like the music, listen to the song once... and listen to the lyrics.
Is there a camera out there that doesn't store anything locally but uploads to the cloud as you record?
Even if NH is one of the silly states that requires 2-party consent, it's hard to believe that police officers, engaging in publicly visible activities, in public areas, have a a reasonable expectation of privacy.
The article says: "It also probably didn’t help Gannon’s cause that he told police he was videotaping the incident with a small Kodak mini camcorder". It would probably help his case if he'd been able to claim that his taping was being done visibly.
This issue comes up enough that it needs to be settled -- preferably at the Federal level.
... we'll have sufficient bandwidth that video shot from a mobile device can be uploaded straight to the web, with only a brief "buffering" stop on the actual filming device. Then they can confiscate the device as much as they like, but the video will be beyond their grasp due to the technical difficulty of 1) figuring out where it went, 2) getting the host to take it down, and 3) doing so before the original filmer (or friends) can spread copies of it all over everywhere.
Shortly after that, some bright lad will suggest jamming devices to disrupt the transmission, which will pose all kinds of problems for them, such as disrupting their own signals. So then they may try short range hand-held EMP devices, which will work great right up until they fry somebody's pacemaker. Meanwhile, people will busily be miniaturizing the technology even further, so that observers could be filming the cops' activity without any obvious sign of it.
And eventually they'll give up and conclude that they'll just have to put up with being filmed by whoever happens to be standing around.
Ah, technology.
Because the rules don't apply to the rulers. Just you.
A bunch of my friends got escorted off some property during our last protest by a sheriff's deputy. I was laughing my ass off because the second he came over to us, no less than 6 phones and an iPad were pulled out to record everything. No way was he confiscating shit. Especially as two of us were open carrying. By that point, he was quite friendly. There is strength in numbers.
Any of you Free Staters want to move out to Colorado instead, we'll welcome you with open arms. NH is too freakin' cold.
The end result will be that The cops will lobby the FCC for an exception to cellphone jammers they can switch on at a moments notice from their police hand held radios. To get round the cellphone jammer, you would have to transmit the video using something other than a cell phone like a sat phone or ham radio.
Even if you did manage to transmit the video successfully, all they would do keep you locked up indefinitely as an enemy combatant till you recanted the video.
I have a gross mistrust with cloud technology (except for the the cloud you aren't running at least, which technically isn't a cloud anymore), but if there's one good thing about it, it's the increasing number of consumer devices which can automatically upload photos, movies, audio to various cloud sources once captured. Great for those pig fucks who think by confiscating your gear you don't have any evidence.
that New Hampshire is a third world country. Now we have proof.
What this guy needs to do is put out a call for a flash mob to show up - hundreds of people all videotaping at the same time. Let the police try to confiscate every single camera lol. Make sure to videotape the guy videotaping the police, and the police confiscating the camera.
When the police try to turn out in force, scatter to the four winds, then upload the videos to several different places, make offline backups, etc.
I'm sure there are other services, but http://qik.com/ has a pretty good interface. Shoot the video on your phone, hit stop, video gets automatically uploaded to your account, YouTube, etc.
The coast guard, that's who.
The Internet is way ahead of you...
http://www.openwatch.net/
This is nothing.
Don't EVER get into a traffic accident with a police officer. Seriously it will screw up your life big time.
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/05/off-duty_nj_state_police_offic.html
Two years ago on a darkened stretch of South Jersey highway, Clayton Tanksley was almost killed when his SUV was rammed from behind and sent tumbling to the side of the road â" by a man who doesnâ(TM)t exist.
"He hit me hard enough to crush the back of the car like an accordion," said Tanksley, 46. "It was like a shark attack. Itâ(TM)s so sudden, out of the blue."
The accident, on Route 295 in Camden County, left Tanksley with a demolished car, back problems and recurring flashbacks.
"In the middle of night, everything is calm and peaceful," Tanksley said. "And then you live through it again. Even the smells."
According to the State Police crash report, a man named William Gillespie was behind the wheel of the other car that night. As Tanksleyâ(TM)s medical bills from the crash neared $30,000, his lawyer filed a lawsuit against Gillespie.
But when it came time to serve him, Gillespie was nowhere to be found. A private investigator couldnâ(TM)t find Gillespie at the home or business listed on the State Police report of the accident, and the insurance company named did not recognize the information about his car.
It was as if Gillespie didnâ(TM)t exist, and for good reason â" he doesnâ(TM)t.
Through a series of interviews and a trail of documents, The Star-Ledger has learned that Gillespie is the undercover name for State Police Detective Sgt. William Billingham and that his true identity was withheld from Tanksley â" in violation of State Police policy â" leaving Tanksley and his lawyer to go on a prolonged wild goose chase for a phantom. The newspaper also found that Billinghamâ(TM)s fellow troopers provided Tanksleyâ(TM)s insurance company with fictional and incomplete information.
In fact, Tanksley â" an actor who has appeared in movies and on television in "The Cosby Show" under the name Clayton Prince â" had no idea who really hit him until The Star-Ledger tracked him to his Philadelphia home in April.
Tanksleyâ(TM)s lawyers are considering a lawsuit against the state claiming his civil rights were violated.
The current situation in New Hampshire is only a difference of degree, no a difference of kind, from anonymous officers. If it the word of a uniformed cop against a civilian, and there is no other evidence, then the cop wins. It takes either a lot of witnesses, or a video to show that a cop is lying. If you let the cops stop video, you have no effective rights.
Why is Snark Required?
More like corrupt cops lie, and the camera calls them out on it. Sounds to me like you need to have your so called career ruined for the sake of all of the decent people around you.
I'm going to stick my neck out and state that, IMO, police should be under video surveillance at all times during duty. They are granted exclusive privileges in order to do their job, such privileges require oversight to control abuse.
Or we can let them continue down this deceitful path until the police career loses all credibility, and watch as society descends into violent chaos a-la Mad Max. No, I'm not exaggerating. Bad cops only create more and badder criminals.
-Billco, Fnarg.com
Then Jesus Christ fucked Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny (at the same time) to create the Chinese New Year.
Power-hungry pigs just hate it when everyone realizes that they are just power-hungry pigs who won't think twice about abusing the powers that come with their badge.
Moreover, aren't these most of the same assholes who are all in favor of wiretapping? I mean, I only ever hear of two types of people supporting more power to wiretap citizens, and they are politicians and police.
Welcome to what could become the beginning of the Plutocratic Police States of America. Then to add to it, if Republicans (or far worse) the Tea Party gain much more power, we can add Corporacratic to the name. (if we can't already....)
I have seen abuses of power in other states, thankfully utah not one, where it is not legal to videotape a police officer at work. I would very much like federal protection of such, as I firmly belive this is critical to our society having people in power (such as the police) be accountable for their actions. i am on camera much of the time i am at work (so my employer may verify i am doing what they pay me for), how are the police i pay for different in this respect? state laws differ on this matter, but i feel this should be a federal issue. As a citizen, i feel i have the right to videotape and/or audiotape any public servant in the course of their duties. i understand you are busy, but please take my opinion into consideration. A state where we are not allowed to document the wrongdoings of the police, is by definition, a police state.
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Aside from the terribly obvious problems with cops being pissed about being caught in the act of being complete douches, how is it that the police can arrest someone for "suspicion of __________"?! What happened to innocent until proven guilty?! Getting arrested for suspicion of something doesn't seem like they have to prove a fucking thing!
The other thing that pisses me off are people who claim that we need to give up some of our privacy and/or freedoms in the name of safety. At the risk of quoting a Star Wars movie that ISN'T in the original trilogy, "So this is how liberty dies....to thunderous applause."
F-minus, America.
The way to get around all of this "wiretapping" crap, aside from a judge who beats some common sense into police chiefs with his gavel, is simple:
A small red led, either flashing or continuous, on the recording device, or.....
A t-shirt that says "Audio / Video Monitoring In Progress", or both.
If you want to cover your ass while driving, place a reflective sticker right next to your license plate that reads: "This vehicle equipped with active audio / visual recording devices.". The officer won't be able to claim, unless he is blind, that he didn't see the duly posted notice. Hell, you'd even be able to see it on the officer's dashcam recording. Be vague yet accurate and truthful to the officer if he asks you about being recorded (don't be a total dick, especially if you really did run the stop sign and are trying to cover your ass, as it will look bad in court).
Officer: Am I being recorded? .....
Driver: Yes, that is why I posted the sticker on my car, right next to my license plate.
Officer: You do realize that it is interfering with my investigation and traffic stop, don't you?
Driver: No, I don't. How is it interfering with your investigation and traffic stop?
Officer: You might use the recording improperly.
Driver: Like how?
Officer: Where is the recording?
Driver: It's being streamed to servers in Havana, Cuba, with the added bonus that they don't have an extradition treaty with the U.S. It's also available streaming from Hulu, but people only watch the good ones the whole way through.
Officer: Good ones?
Driver: You know, where the cop goes ballistic about being videotaped by some bystander from 50 yards away, and then confiscates his phone and tries to arrest him on charges of wiretapping, invasion of privacy, interfering, tax evasion, lion taming, etc., then simultaneously "loses" both the phone recording and the squad car's dash cam tapes. It only works because those idiots didn't post any notice that they were recording the cops. Which is why I posted notice.
Knowing Google's lust for data collection, the Soviet Union is still alive and well inside the psyche of Sergey Brin....
That is exactly why I like Google+. Instant upload!
... and it has to stop. Everyone should be able and encouraged to video-tape the police - it's the only way to curb the abuses. As it is, when on a jury I completely discount everything a police officer says as a lie. A video tape doesn't lie. The only reason they don't want to be taped is they are the criminals...
On the plus side, if the police erase the evidence, it would be hard to charge him with wiretapping.
I guess expecting Policemen to know the laws is a bit much...
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When this war is over, and the vets get home, how long before some kingshit cop pushes the wrong one around? How are our troops going to like the fact our freedoms are in the toilet in spite of the fact they went to fight a war to preserve them? I am starting to think they are keeping them overseas on purpose, so that they don't have to worry about them revolting or aiding insurrections or starting them here. Our military is sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States. That means if politicians start trashing the Constitution, they have not only the right, but the duty to put a fucking bullet in their heads.
These dipshits in office keep fucking around, they will have a military coup. My generation is obviously a bunch of pussies, or else we would have lynched these fuckers ourselves. I don't know about this new generation though. The brainwashing that goes on in this country is intense as fuck. This article is yet another example of how one just stands in awe at the balls of all authority figures these days. The system is a good one, but corruption is so rampant in it, it's sickening. We are seeing corruption from the lowest levels of government to the highest.
Don't think so? Take a look at Britain with this hacker scandal. Britain has always struck me as being a bit more reserved and cultured and for that much corruption going to the highest parts of it is dismaying. We KNOW we have super ambitious, money grubbing, stab your kids in the back with a butter knife for a dime, kind of people here in power. To think it's not 100 times more corrupt here is living in La La Land. We literally ARE the wild west.
Here is how I see it playing out. Dumbfuck Republicans and Democrats will fuck this up and the government will go fucking broke belling up. This is going to threaten the sovereignty of the United States in way you can't fucking imagine. I hope to fucking shout that we still have some people in high command in the military that Constitutionally say "FUCK YOU", arrest the entire lot of them, and we hold emergency elections to replace them. In the mean time, they lock the entire country the fuck down. Meaning nothing comes in, we tell ships coming this way, fuck off or we sink you. Planes, everything has to be turned back unless the military O.K.s it.
The economy will go WTF as Wall Street pisses it's self. But it will prompt local manufacturing to start up. Which will be good for the economy of the little people. The multinational cocksuckers will be fucked, Wal-Mart will not get to fuck us with all the cheap shit from China. We can uncap untold amounts of oil wells here and gas will be so fucking cheap even I will not bitch about the prices.
The bad news, lots of people will die. There will be panic, riots, more riots, cultural clashes if not mini-wars. There will of course be a split in the factions of the military, so probably up to half of it will be fighting with the other half and the UN. Fuck the UN, they will be here trying to beat down OUR military that is doing the coup. So the UN troops will come to know the horror of what we do to foreign troops in our land. If any survive they will tell horror stories for hundreds of years about our savagery, making anything out of darkest Africa, or South America, or even Hollywood, look pale in comparison to. I am talking about shit that would give Hannibal Lecter and Colonel Kurtz a nervous breakdown.
The whole world will collectively piss it's self. After all, when it comes to nukes we invented the game, which means we have plenty of them around. And we have plenty of crazy fuckers who would use them on OURSELVES in a heart beat. That means when we are over the rainbow, batshit crazy, fighting it out with each other, that if you fuck with us, we will probably nuke you shitless, then get back to the business of fucking each other up.
People have been seething pissed for decades now. Cops are under some impression that they could survive the public deciding to off the entire lot of them. Frankly they don't h
Take the Red Pill.
Red and blue lights hay whats shakin? Smell sometin cookin it smells like bacon!
for a large group of people with video cameras to decent on this particular station at the same time and record "A day in the life of the station". (As long as it's legal of course.)
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=256348847712768
I run a youth program. We have HD security cameras covering all of our premises (not the bathrooms). We have caught police misconduct more than once with those cameras.
Back in May we had a police officer from the next town over come in to "talk" with one of our teens about a crime that "they may have witnessed". When I got this call, my next call was to 911 to put on record that this was going to go on (standard policy for us, any time a police officer calls to interview a kid in our program, a staff member calls 911 to put it on the record. We find this stops a lot of police abuses, along with our ready access to lawyers). When the police officers came, the two of them tried to strong arm the kid out the door. We flatly refused to allow the teen to be taken to the police station to be questioned, and told the police officers that they would need to arrest the teen and read them their rights before we would allow them to leave (and that the teen was then invoking the right to a lawyer). They were not happy - they even accused me of not 'playing ball'.
When they started shoving the teen and talking about how the teen had just hit the officer (to be clear, the teen never touched the cop, the cops flatly made it up), and that was grounds for arrest, I physically stepped between the cops and the teen (I am 6'1, 220, a third degree black belt in Tie Kwan Do and like to lift weights) and informed them that the interview was over, and they were to leave. My volunteer assistant (who works part time as a judge at the state Department of Education!) called 911 at that point - calling 911 also activates the audio recording of all of our cameras, as well as an auto backup of our cameras to the law office next door.
Long story short, it was a weird stand off until local police arrived - the two cops having their hands on their guns, my telling them they had to leave or be escorted out. When local police arrived (with whom we have a generally good relationship) we informed them that our security cameras had caught the whole thing and we wanted the two cops arrested for assault. The first thing the local cops wanted to do was take the recording device and arrest the teen. When I said that it was no problem, our system recorded to three redundant devices, one of which is at our lawyers office, suddenly they didn't want to take the teen, and couldn't get out of their fast enough.
We sent a copy of the video to the DA's office, asking for an investigation, another copy went to the lawyer we set the family up with to represent this kid, and a third to the police department of the next town, with a letter from our lawyer stating that we would not allow any officer from their department to enter our premises or interview any of our kids without the programs lawyer present.
We need procedures in place whereby if you can show a cop likely took advantage of his authority in any way they can be fired. They don't necessarily have to break a law. This would ensure police are VERY careful not to take advantage of power because if it isn't clear cut the could end up losing employment over it. This does not mean that any other penalty should be possible without breaking a law.
Let me give an example: in this case there is a clear example of police misconduct.
another case where a cop pulls someone over using an excuse that just isn't justified to perform questioning or search without reason to believe the person committed a crime which makes sense to peruse. For instance "speeding" under 10 mph or ticketing for a license plate which has a frame which covers up the "lettering" (in most if not all places there are laws which make it illegal to have this BUT all cars are sold with frames- thus almost all drivers are violating this law- it is a $50 fine in NJ).
Any individual should be able to request a hearing of any cop and provide evidence of misconduct. It should not be a form that you fill out that will then be decided by prosecutors or the police as to investigate. A person who requests a hearing should be provided a lawyer paid for by the state whose only job is going after these cops who abuse power for personal gain.
I'm pretty sure you are more than welcome to review dash camera footage before giving self-incriminating testimony. There's a commonly-cited amendment related to this that you might recall.
...while taping the pigs and worn a transmitting microphone.
The right lens would allow photography from elevated cover in a building.
Just as snipers shoot through holes, so can photographers. No need to stick anything out out so you can be identified.
This would be a fine topic for Ask Slashdot.
"This post is an artistic work of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact."
Sure, why not get rid of all law enforcement, They are all horrible thugs with a badge and NEVER do anything right.
Seriously though, no one wants to be told "Sir, pointing that gun at that individual and taking their money isn't nice". Law enforcement does not exist to screw people over anyone who really thinks so really needs to grow up a little. It is a rather small number of incidents that are wrong or questionable in comparison to all of the good things that law enforcement does do. IF anyone or group was put in the lime-light under the level of scrutiny that law enforcement is, yes you will find plenty of bad apples. Even the lovable Mother Teresa would have been caught doing something wrong ("Did you see what Mother Teresa did yesterday on the TV, she scratched her crotch area, never mind she was in a garbage strewn dump feeding malnourished children, she did that horrible thing", "Did you see Mother Teresa viscously pull that frail little boy down to the ground, yes she fell off the side of a cliff after carrying that child for 30 miles in down a desert mountain side, but she threw him down as she landed on her face").
I used to be a cop, but left the field due to the low level of respect from the general public and the high levels of danger. Any police officer, even the pregnant filing clerk is a target, their families become targets.
Yes, a few are bad, everyone makes a bad call once in a while, especially when the videos are reviewed from a non-involved source (not in the heat of the situation). But a police officer needs to follows orders, enforce laws, protect themselves, protect their partners, politically correct, biased, friendly, pleasant, firm, helpful, safe, let people the lawyers and politicians walk all over them for doing their jobs (yes, some sarcasm was intended).
If people, really think that law enforcement (police, Feds, cops, pigs, etc...) are so horrible and not necessary in life, move. Gather together, buy some Caribbean, South American, or African island, live there with no law enforcement at all. Really no one is preventing you from doing so (just yourselves).
Yes, I admit freely that sometime things are not done the 100% proper way, but really, if you think all cops are out to do nothing but bad things, that they all have some "I'm gonna get you" mentality, you are seriously have issues. But, please keep drinking the Kool-Aid, its good for you.
Two 13-y/o kids were near the entrance, taking turns asking for cigarettes. I had none, and told them their teeth look too clean as though they ever smoked them theirselves. I go inside to order, and I look behind me as some COPS arrest someone for suggesting to these two young punks to "go haunt an ashtray" 10-feet away. Apparently these COPS consider even that kind of averment as consistent to giving cigarettes to children. So, I was at my favorite illegal alien mailcar-converted icecream truck and I bought 10 packs of bubblegum cigarettes: and I intend to use them to resist a false arrest, verry violently in my defense... :-)
super lol in the face max planck
Sorry officer, this is NOT a video camcorder. You are being streamed live on the internet. SMILE
Obviously he has two men mixed up; a black man being pummeled by police thugs, and a white man being pummeled by street thugs:
Rodney King Beating
Reginald Denny Beating
He probably also believes the riots were started by the street thugs and not the police thugs. It's a natural mistake to make.
It was confusing, I know; I was there. Thugs look a lot alike.
How do you resist arrest? One thing you'd do to resist arrest would be to yell and shout and draw away. Disorderly conduct in other words. It would also involve shoving the officer away as they try to kidnap you. Simple assault.
This isn't to say the conduct and assault were not the result of the resisting arrest, but you can see how they are triple-dipping for the same "crime". Rather like "breaking and entering, trespass and criminal damage".
Once when I was 16 and a huge smartass, I yelled, "I smell bacon!" out the window of a car I was a passenger in. There was a cop on the side of the road that had someone pulled over. I see him drop everything, run back to his car and get back into it. I thought there was no way he would ever catch us, and anyway I thought yelling out the window was not illegal. He didn't try to catch us - instead he radioed ahead to someone else who pulled us over within a few minutes. The cop comes up to the car, says, "Which one of you yelled, 'I'm going to kill you fucking cops'"?
I agree you didn't do anything illegal, and you were not arrested for it, so I guess they agreed with that too, but I will point out that "I smell bacon" is equivalent to threatening to kill the cop. You might just not have realized that.
You see, the derogatory nickname for cops is "pigs." Bacon is a dead pig.
Two angry men with guns who prefer to use intimidation rather than follow the law show up at his doorstep -- I fail to see any way in which that isn't potentially life threatening.
The law prohibits making audio recordings without the permission of all the parties being recorded.
Lawyers writing law could not be bothered with the technical concept of "wire."
Police Officers have no expectation of privacy in the performance of their duties, and nobody has an expectation of privacy in a public place.
You know tyranny is setting in when government criminalizes the collection of evidence against it.
Over and over, continuously, we see this sort of purely abusive behavior on the part of police in several "civilized" countries. Every single time, some poor individual, if lucky enough with press coverage and donated legal assistance, has to go through a huge ordeal to get charges dropped against his/herself, and usually no repercussions are faced by the abusers... or the individual does jail/prison time, gets assaulted... even murdered. Either way, next step is that we see it happen again. Even the rest of us, who aren't being assaulted by police, are paying those officers to stay employed, paying for their defense, paying to prosecute and imprison someone for trumped charges, etc....
How do people in "free" countries enact preventative measures? How do we turn the tide against the police state? Systems like the TSA seem bent on making "official vs citizen" interactions more and more degrading, and if nothing is done soon, there will be less and less public support for any sort of stand for our rights movement. So what works? Has any other country repaired this kind of damage?
It's something both parties have convinced you of to make you ignore the impact of inflation.
At best you're middle class.
It why the democratic meme about 250k is "rich" is such a joke.
Go ahead. Work the numbers on inflation. And stop being a chump.
I have never seen "police abuse" in even the slightest form from any time I have dealt with the police, or seen the police deal with someone else.
I can remember 4 times in my life (30 years) that I have dealt with the police:
1. Had a nice chat since some of the library guests thought I was stoned. The police officer asked me to come to a room, told me that some people were concerned at my odd behavior, and let me go as he could tell from my physical attributes that I was not stoned. He later said "hi" every time I passed by from that point on, which was a bit creepy.
2. Got pulled over for a broken tail light. Said I had a week to fix it or I would get a ticket. None of this, "you must verify with us that it is fixed" crap.
3. My grandmother who was suffering from altimeters managed to escape her house and ended up at another house in the neighborhood.
4. Most recently, me and my insane apartment mate were play acting some "drama" and were a bit loud. The police came and wanted to check up on us, which we assured them (we were separated by about 10 feet and talked to different officers) that everything was fine. They also asked us if we knew of any "weed" that was around, to which I replied "no," even though it was a lie, since my appeasement mate just 1/2 hour ago wanted to show me his cache.
I've also seen plenty of times the police pulled people over and saw nothing wrong there. Even saw a drug bust (very rare where I am), or at least I assume it was as the police were removing wads of cash from various places on an individual and placing them in a plastic bag.
It is my belief that either these situations of "police abuse" are extremely limited (given how many police there are in the US) or I'm simply living in a part of the country where it doesn't happen.
Holy cow the real story is here with witness videos I recorded and we have FBI tape and complaint ready:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPvSIOMMhmk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Uq60c-FskU
http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2011/07/police-abuse-survivor-mike-gannon-and.html
http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2011/07/judge-paul-barbadoro-puts-brakes-on.html
I'm suing the cops for the 2006 tapes and demanding review of the current tapes:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/59819436/KingCast-v-Nashua-PD-RSA-91A-Warning-Letter-Mike-Gannon-2006-Home-Videotapes-of-LE-Misconduct
Police abuse survivor Mike Gannon and family grant media release to 2006 porch video and prepare for FBI complaint against Nashua PD... as Sam Bourne and Nashua PD lawyer Brian Cullen have words.
I told you in FBI post #1 and in thefollow-up FBI post #2 from Saturday that we're not taking any prisoners here. We will be at the FBI office. We will be at Nashua Aldermanic Chamber meetings. We will be anywhere and everywhere we need to be in order to expose the culture of corruption and police abuse that has run rampant at Nashua Police Department. You can't treat lawful citizens this way and you certainly can't lie about their actions in an attempt to railroad them into accepting a criminal plea to curb a Federal Monell claim.
Also RSA 91-A: Dear Attorney Cullen -- Please have your client immediately produce a copy of the 2002/3/4 complaint that I issued against a certain Detective, thank you.
Frankly, I think it's good that they did that. I don't necessarily agree with two-party consent (as we've all read about cases where that's abused, especially when trying to document/prove official misconduct), but I like that they legislated the concept of recording audio communication, rather than specifically legislating about taps that involve wires.
We are entitled to these rights, and it's only when we're unwilling to fight for them that they get stripped away. Your gun is a final solution...and it's going to be too late if you don't use your voice and your pen now. Your gun is just going to get you killed, you idiot. There should be public defenders stepping up, but they've been marginalized to defending base offenders...they should be there for everyone who wants to protest in the name of social disobedience, or who would pursue some injustice, but can't afford it...they should be there as an option for everyone...not the people who deserve them least and who they likely will not benefit much in the final analysis....grrr.. The greedy corporate-military enterprises. They're bringing us to totalitarianism. They've broken the law of checks and balances, and nobody spoke up who had any power who survived politically or sometimes literally very long. Despite all the crazy conspiracy rigmarole...we need to turn off the TV and step up...or the world we all share will literally be reduced to ash. I can't figure out if the perpetrators are evil or stupid...I mean look at George Bush...elegant speaker...until he walked into the white house. Now he's a world renowned idiot...but he's good...he's Yoda'd us all. And that's my yearly rant.
In order to restore freedom in this country we must utterly shun any family members or friends who decide to join the police, the military, the TSA, etc.
Those of you who have Android phones might want to check out the OpenWatch app. It is designed for stealth video/audio recording of law enforcement. The app also uploads the recording to the OpenWatch servers. It's free and open-source.
(I would never take recordings of the police to the police, I would take it to an attorney and have him/her handle it.)
you need an iphone, then you need live streaming to the internet like (justintv) and then you have no worries, you let them do what they want, in fact you can try to goad them into attacking you, and then receive 2 black eyes and a million dollar payout from the city....
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/07/20/2214257/Jury-Acquits-Citizens-of-Illegally-Filming-Police?utm_source=headlines&utm_medium=email
That is what happens when the citizens allow the government to greedily rip away more and more of their liberty and resources. Check out "The Road to Serfdom" and see if Hayek did not warns about this asnhe observed it happening in the 40s. Public "assistance" sounds good and "free" health care sounds good until you realize that the government can only give away what it takes from citizens. And as they give away what they take, they keep to themselves the power derived from being the sole judge of who to take from and who to give to.
You are in a police state. Ever since GWB created all those secret agencies such as Homeland Security, and so forth.
Your rights as a citizen are not protected by the consitution if the laws of HLND S. overrule it or if they can secret you out of the country.
Its very Orwellian and getting fearful to live in the USA..
What American dream? Oh yeah unlimited capitalism I guess, that works well. What about the other parts of the American dream? Such as freedoms that our for fathers wrote into the constitution? Oh yeah, we ammended those useless. I guess we don't care if we are all slaves of the rich. At least that what we are saying when we allow something like this to happen in our country. And we do say it, loud and clear as a mass, every day. too many people are sheep, and we are loosing our country far too rapidly. f'ing sheep
New video coming tomorrow combining our trip to the FBI today and demand to review the 2006 and 2011 video at the Nashua PD tomorrow.
Wait until you hear the real story of what happened in 2006.
http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2011/07/kingcast-and-mike-gannon-present-semper_21.html
Semper Fi.
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The police couldn't make it any more obvious that they've got something to hide. Now we just need to figure out what it is.