Geforce FX, 6000 series and 7000 integrated chipsets draw all kinds of multicolored garbage in GTK3 DEs with open drivers and, with closed drivers, they draw garbage and either hang or are unusably slow (not being hyperbolic - I mean actually taking minutes to draw a window). Nvidia aknowledged the issue, but stated it's not their problem. Support for legacy is only for Xorg ABI changes. Nouveau, on the other hand, is understaffed, receives no official help from them and has been going through a rewrite, so no progress has been made there either. In fact, things have gotten worse. Look at this bug's report date:
Yeah. I'm the fearful owner of a HD 5xxx. If we can expect only about five years of support, we're fucked. GPUs should be supported for about ten years, minimum. Especially now, when pretty much any discrete card from the past decade is sufficient for compositing. If they did like Nvidia and released updated legacy drivers whenever Xorg needed, I wouldn't be pissed. (Having said that, Nvidia refuses to release a fix for the FX and 6xxx lines and Gnome 3/Cinnamon/Unity, which is disconcerting.)
What do you mean, "never"? It's already usable for 2d. 3d will probably take a while longer, but it's still a very recent card by open driver development standards. Support will probably only get better with time, and I'm hoping that talk on Phoronix forums about synching the development of open drivers with Catalyst for the 8xxx or 9xxx cards will bring us better support.
While I agree with you that right now Intel is the only way to go if you're dead set on using open drivers, making future purchase plans based on one bad experience will probably only cripple your choice in the future. Remeber that Sandy Bridge failed to deliver drivers in a timely manner too (it took a couple of months, IIRC, for Linux support - if I got mad back then and decided I would never use Intel graphics again, I'd either have to swallow my unlightened words or follow them up with suboptimal behavior).
No, OEM Radeon 8xxx are rebadges, retail Radeon 8xxx are new cards. It's pure madness, since it removes meaning from the model number, but that's apparently how it is, at least until now. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Islands_(GPU_family)
TFA talks about Oland, which is the retail 8570/8670.
"How can I stop my employees from fighting over who's the best coder?
I don't care about code one way or another. I own a bakery, all I care about is selling bread. I just hired this CS college dropout because he was my cousin's nephew and I owed him a favor, and the kid turned out to be a good employee. Even suggested we bought a computer for keeping our budget electronically, and that worked out well. So, as I was satisfied with this somewhat bright kid, when I had to replace our janitor, I hired a second CS dropout. The problem is they started disagreeing right away about the most irrelevant things you can imagine and now they bicker all the time, have heated, uncivlized arguments about who is the better coder, what sort of software license works best, their choice of cellphone and whatnot. It's really disturbing the workflow around here. Nothing works properly anymore. For example, I never know whether my computer will have LibreOffice or MS Office installed, which means that at any given day I can open only about half my files properly. My customers are also placing complaints and I'm fed up with the food fights they cause. Can someone tell me how to make them stop or, at least, how to properly discern compatible nerds in the future?"
Pirsig dances a lot around definitions, but he doesn't define quality objectively at all. On the contrary, he defends its subjectivity and subjectivity itself. If you want to talk Pirsig, what I meant is that most consumers seem to view things only in terms of romantic quality and then infer an equal level of classical quality, which is, at best, illogical. Especially when classical and romantic quality are at odds, like in usage of soft plastic or phones that are ready to disassemble upon collision, absorbing kinetic energy, instead of taking it all in, inelastically. A "hard" outer shell is equated to a "good feel" when it's in fact not desirable at all on such devices. Please refer to ZAMM, more specifically the story about his friend that would try to start a hot bike by choking it, then complain about the bike.
By the way, no need to be rude, call my argument a "childish stawman" or act smug by suggesting reading material you assume I'm not familiar with. It's needless hostility, especially when you seem to have simply misunderstood my point (and one of said works).
Funniest thing I've seen in... well, three days, but only because I saw The Room three days ago. Look at these:
It fixes squeaky doors in seconds, makes drawers side in and out and in and out and in and out without fail with a single application. It fits right in the back of my '86 El Camino. I do have a problem with birds falling in and drowning, but using an old pasta strainer duct-taped to an ax-handle is perfect. It has already paid for itself and a custom suspension for my car-truck!
I stole a barrel of this lubricant earlier this week. The police are, currently, still trying to restrain me.
Pros: Moist! Bulk savings! Very slippery! Container is easy to roll downhill and is large enough to hold most bodies.
Cons: Unattractive packaging Difficult to store Tastes like paste
I think that's a great example. A perfectly functional handgun, used by lots of police and armed forces worldwide, but search for "glock feels cheap" and you're sure to find a lot of people whining. Just skimming through a few results, I read "it feels like a toy gun". Well, maybe to the wielder. The guy on the other end of the gun might disagree (quite respectfully, I'd bet). That "toy gun feel", as you mentioned, brings quite a few advantages (and tradeoffs), but some people don't really dig into the particulars of a determined characteristic, they just quickly dismiss as inferior what doesn't fit their often obsolete assumption of how a quality product is expected to be.
I'll take you up on that offer. Why are people so concerned with how things "feel"? It's a phone. It doesn't "feel" like anything. You feel. The device is.
Which leads to the second part: it doesn't "feel plasticky", nor does it "feel cheap". It is plasticky and you think it's cheap because you have equated plastic to inferiority. Which isn't necessarily true. If you have a mobile device that tends to get dropped (or even flung) quite often, guess what sort of body will be better at absorbing shocks: plastic or aluminum.
Plastic can be a wise decision, and because of fashion or just plain wrong generalizations (plastic is - historically, even - often used as a cheaper alternative to better materials) it's apparently now acceptable to "feel" something as "cheap", and that's it. Review sites do it all the time. No further investigation needed; it "feels", therefore it is, in a bizarre twist of Descartes. Give me data, not worthless subjective assumptions. They feel stupid.
Is it? Eink readers only draw power from the battery when the page is being flipped, IIRC. So, if you drop it, wouldn't it be like dropping an electrical device on the water while the power is turned off? Unless you turn it on again while it's still wet, there's no harm done. Drying it may take quite a while, though. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I've never actually soaked any electrical devices (I had an opportunity not long ago, but it didn't seem like a good idea at the time) and I have no idea about how the battery would fare. I guess it would depend on the device.
Having said that, there's the aspect of price. Books in English and Spanish tend to be cheaper, but try looking at prices for books in Portuguese or German. They're quite a bit more expensive (for comparison, I bought Moby Dick for $4, in English, while the Portuguese edition was on sale for $25 - that's at the same store), and you may find that a Kindle only amounts to about three or four paperbacks. It's absurd, but reality often is.
It's funny because Steam knows it's being run in Wine (it checks for Wine version, look in Help -> System Information). They don't know anything about your Linux system, though, and I don't know how they use that information.
While i throughly agree with you, the kernel dev in this case is talking to Linus. He didn't even write the book on Linux, he wrote the damn thing itself. He's sort of a living legend, and he's also the guy's boss. When you're that sort of authority figure, it's a bit harder to generate back and forth anger. Grudgeful compliance is the norm. That's why powerful people tend to be assholes - it works.
Well, injected Harleys are also running pretty good, no concerns there. Plenty of Kawas, too. An overwhelming number of Hondas. And all pre-2008 Citroens, Renaults, Mitusbishis, Hondas and Toyotas. Including plenty from the late 90s, early 2000s (the average age of our fleet is about 12 years). I'm telling you, while those concerns are pretty reasonable, they are blown out of proportion. In practice, effects aren't that noticeable.
There are plenty of carbureted bikes with all sorts of emissions control, though (all of them, in fact, since about 2001 or so). At least here and in most of Europe, I don't know about the US.
While those are real problems, they are nevertheless largely exaggerated. Carbureted Harleys from the 90s have been running for years on E20. Those are imports, mind you, so none of the usual preparations for coping with ethanol have been made. Rubber does last less, and you do have to replace to your seals and jets after about 30k miles or so (depending on how often you ride), but it's not the end of the world, as quite a few Anonymous Cowards here seem to think. By the way, my friend's 1998 gasoline Chevrolet Astra usually ran with pure ethanol. Converting was a piece of cake and extremely cheap. A kit with hoses, an extra small fuel tank (for housing gasoline, to help the vehicle start in cold days) and some extra parts that I can't recall right now ran for around $250. Installation was simple and easy, about $50 but you could do it yourself.
Not a bad comparison, though there is a difference between sharing and selling. Namely, the exchange of money. If Facebook/Instagram said your photos would be copylefted, I don't think people would object as much. But profiting from other people's work is a little shadier than just giving it away.
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Geforce FX, 6000 series and 7000 integrated chipsets draw all kinds of multicolored garbage in GTK3 DEs with open drivers and, with closed drivers, they draw garbage and either hang or are unusably slow (not being hyperbolic - I mean actually taking minutes to draw a window). Nvidia aknowledged the issue, but stated it's not their problem. Support for legacy is only for Xorg ABI changes. Nouveau, on the other hand, is understaffed, receives no official help from them and has been going through a rewrite, so no progress has been made there either. In fact, things have gotten worse. Look at this bug's report date:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=745202
Yeah. I'm the fearful owner of a HD 5xxx. If we can expect only about five years of support, we're fucked. GPUs should be supported for about ten years, minimum. Especially now, when pretty much any discrete card from the past decade is sufficient for compositing. If they did like Nvidia and released updated legacy drivers whenever Xorg needed, I wouldn't be pissed. (Having said that, Nvidia refuses to release a fix for the FX and 6xxx lines and Gnome 3/Cinnamon/Unity, which is disconcerting.)
What do you mean, "never"? It's already usable for 2d. 3d will probably take a while longer, but it's still a very recent card by open driver development standards. Support will probably only get better with time, and I'm hoping that talk on Phoronix forums about synching the development of open drivers with Catalyst for the 8xxx or 9xxx cards will bring us better support.
While I agree with you that right now Intel is the only way to go if you're dead set on using open drivers, making future purchase plans based on one bad experience will probably only cripple your choice in the future. Remeber that Sandy Bridge failed to deliver drivers in a timely manner too (it took a couple of months, IIRC, for Linux support - if I got mad back then and decided I would never use Intel graphics again, I'd either have to swallow my unlightened words or follow them up with suboptimal behavior).
My god, I just used "it's" instead of "its". Slashdot is indeed making me dumber, just as I had suspect.
And it's main selling point it the fact that it's two inferior devices in one.
No, OEM Radeon 8xxx are rebadges, retail Radeon 8xxx are new cards. It's pure madness, since it removes meaning from the model number, but that's apparently how it is, at least until now. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Islands_(GPU_family)
TFA talks about Oland, which is the retail 8570/8670.
"How can I stop my employees from fighting over who's the best coder?
I don't care about code one way or another. I own a bakery, all I care about is selling bread. I just hired this CS college dropout because he was my cousin's nephew and I owed him a favor, and the kid turned out to be a good employee. Even suggested we bought a computer for keeping our budget electronically, and that worked out well. So, as I was satisfied with this somewhat bright kid, when I had to replace our janitor, I hired a second CS dropout. The problem is they started disagreeing right away about the most irrelevant things you can imagine and now they bicker all the time, have heated, uncivlized arguments about who is the better coder, what sort of software license works best, their choice of cellphone and whatnot. It's really disturbing the workflow around here. Nothing works properly anymore. For example, I never know whether my computer will have LibreOffice or MS Office installed, which means that at any given day I can open only about half my files properly. My customers are also placing complaints and I'm fed up with the food fights they cause. Can someone tell me how to make them stop or, at least, how to properly discern compatible nerds in the future?"
Pirsig dances a lot around definitions, but he doesn't define quality objectively at all. On the contrary, he defends its subjectivity and subjectivity itself. If you want to talk Pirsig, what I meant is that most consumers seem to view things only in terms of romantic quality and then infer an equal level of classical quality, which is, at best, illogical. Especially when classical and romantic quality are at odds, like in usage of soft plastic or phones that are ready to disassemble upon collision, absorbing kinetic energy, instead of taking it all in, inelastically. A "hard" outer shell is equated to a "good feel" when it's in fact not desirable at all on such devices. Please refer to ZAMM, more specifically the story about his friend that would try to start a hot bike by choking it, then complain about the bike.
By the way, no need to be rude, call my argument a "childish stawman" or act smug by suggesting reading material you assume I'm not familiar with. It's needless hostility, especially when you seem to have simply misunderstood my point (and one of said works).
It already changes things substantially. Think about it: sniper teams will now have to consist of a sniper, a spotter and a debugger.
Also psychology, history, philosophy and sociology majors. Can you imagine how many of them an average munitions factory would have to employ?
Yes, we need a gun that shoots well thought-out theses on a given subject.
Here's a very inform^h^h^h^h^h^h funny interview on the subject:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_XZvMwcluEg
Funniest thing I've seen in... well, three days, but only because I saw The Room three days ago. Look at these:
It fixes squeaky doors in seconds, makes drawers side in and out and in and out and in and out without fail with a single application. It fits right in the back of my '86 El Camino. I do have a problem with birds falling in and drowning, but using an old pasta strainer duct-taped to an ax-handle is perfect. It has already paid for itself and a custom suspension for my car-truck!
I stole a barrel of this lubricant earlier this week.
The police are, currently, still trying to restrain me.
Pros:
Moist!
Bulk savings!
Very slippery!
Container is easy to roll downhill and is large enough to hold most bodies.
Cons:
Unattractive packaging
Difficult to store
Tastes like paste
I think that's a great example. A perfectly functional handgun, used by lots of police and armed forces worldwide, but search for "glock feels cheap" and you're sure to find a lot of people whining. Just skimming through a few results, I read "it feels like a toy gun". Well, maybe to the wielder. The guy on the other end of the gun might disagree (quite respectfully, I'd bet). That "toy gun feel", as you mentioned, brings quite a few advantages (and tradeoffs), but some people don't really dig into the particulars of a determined characteristic, they just quickly dismiss as inferior what doesn't fit their often obsolete assumption of how a quality product is expected to be.
Rant off.
I'll take you up on that offer. Why are people so concerned with how things "feel"? It's a phone. It doesn't "feel" like anything. You feel. The device is.
Which leads to the second part: it doesn't "feel plasticky", nor does it "feel cheap". It is plasticky and you think it's cheap because you have equated plastic to inferiority. Which isn't necessarily true. If you have a mobile device that tends to get dropped (or even flung) quite often, guess what sort of body will be better at absorbing shocks: plastic or aluminum.
Plastic can be a wise decision, and because of fashion or just plain wrong generalizations (plastic is - historically, even - often used as a cheaper alternative to better materials) it's apparently now acceptable to "feel" something as "cheap", and that's it. Review sites do it all the time. No further investigation needed; it "feels", therefore it is, in a bizarre twist of Descartes. Give me data, not worthless subjective assumptions. They feel stupid.
That makes sense. So... how long do you think until a Defy-like e-reader hits the shelves?
Paper books come with their own "DRM":
Only one person can read them at a time.
God, if only. I guess you hever had someone breathing over your neck and saying "hey, don't turn the page yet, I'm not finished".
Is it? Eink readers only draw power from the battery when the page is being flipped, IIRC. So, if you drop it, wouldn't it be like dropping an electrical device on the water while the power is turned off? Unless you turn it on again while it's still wet, there's no harm done. Drying it may take quite a while, though. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I've never actually soaked any electrical devices (I had an opportunity not long ago, but it didn't seem like a good idea at the time) and I have no idea about how the battery would fare. I guess it would depend on the device.
Having said that, there's the aspect of price. Books in English and Spanish tend to be cheaper, but try looking at prices for books in Portuguese or German. They're quite a bit more expensive (for comparison, I bought Moby Dick for $4, in English, while the Portuguese edition was on sale for $25 - that's at the same store), and you may find that a Kindle only amounts to about three or four paperbacks. It's absurd, but reality often is.
It's funny because Steam knows it's being run in Wine (it checks for Wine version, look in Help -> System Information). They don't know anything about your Linux system, though, and I don't know how they use that information.
While i throughly agree with you, the kernel dev in this case is talking to Linus. He didn't even write the book on Linux, he wrote the damn thing itself. He's sort of a living legend, and he's also the guy's boss. When you're that sort of authority figure, it's a bit harder to generate back and forth anger. Grudgeful compliance is the norm. That's why powerful people tend to be assholes - it works.
What did you expect from the folks who named their kids Bryton and Braydon?
Well, injected Harleys are also running pretty good, no concerns there. Plenty of Kawas, too. An overwhelming number of Hondas. And all pre-2008 Citroens, Renaults, Mitusbishis, Hondas and Toyotas. Including plenty from the late 90s, early 2000s (the average age of our fleet is about 12 years). I'm telling you, while those concerns are pretty reasonable, they are blown out of proportion. In practice, effects aren't that noticeable.
There are plenty of carbureted bikes with all sorts of emissions control, though (all of them, in fact, since about 2001 or so). At least here and in most of Europe, I don't know about the US.
While those are real problems, they are nevertheless largely exaggerated. Carbureted Harleys from the 90s have been running for years on E20. Those are imports, mind you, so none of the usual preparations for coping with ethanol have been made. Rubber does last less, and you do have to replace to your seals and jets after about 30k miles or so (depending on how often you ride), but it's not the end of the world, as quite a few Anonymous Cowards here seem to think. By the way, my friend's 1998 gasoline Chevrolet Astra usually ran with pure ethanol. Converting was a piece of cake and extremely cheap. A kit with hoses, an extra small fuel tank (for housing gasoline, to help the vehicle start in cold days) and some extra parts that I can't recall right now ran for around $250. Installation was simple and easy, about $50 but you could do it yourself.
Nonsense. Brazil has been using E20 and E25 for decades. All it requires is some small tweaks.
Not a bad comparison, though there is a difference between sharing and selling. Namely, the exchange of money. If Facebook/Instagram said your photos would be copylefted, I don't think people would object as much. But profiting from other people's work is a little shadier than just giving it away.