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Child Gets Nintendo 3DS Full of Porn For Christmas

dotarray writes "One Colorado family received more than they'd bargained for this Christmas when they gave five-year-old Braydon Giles a pre-owned Nintendo 3DS that apparently still contained 'graphic images' from a previous owner. From the article: 'Refurbishing is an art, as well as a craft. The whole point is to make a gadget feel pristine, even when it used to be owned by a cult leader, a scout leader or an exhibitionist. Sadly, someone in a Colorado GameStop stopped refurbishing before the job was complete. So much so that 5-year-old Braydon Giles opened his Xmas gift — a Nintendo 3DS — and discovered images of naked people doing less than pristine things. As Channel 9 News tells it, Braydon showed the 3DS to his brother Bryton. He wanted his help to remove these weird pictures. '"

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  1. Greatest present ever by atari2600a · · Score: 5, Funny

    I would totally risk sexual traumatization at the age of 5 if it meant a free 3DS. I swear I'm going through like Miyamoto withdraw or something ever since I accidentally my Wii's firmware before Super Mario Galaxy 2 came out.

    1. Re:Greatest present ever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes, children can be traumatized.

    2. Re:Greatest present ever by Dexter+Herbivore · · Score: 1

      Hoe Hoe Hoe, Merry Pornmas.

    3. Re:Greatest present ever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      since I accidentally my Wii's firmware

      You also accidentally a word.

    4. Re:Greatest present ever by operagost · · Score: 1

      I think you accidentally a word there.

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    5. Re:Greatest present ever by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Hoe, or HOE may refer to:

      Hoe (tool), a hand tool used in gardening
      Hoe (dish), a Korean dish of raw fish
      Plymouth Hoe, a public space in Plymouth, England, United Kingdom
      Hoe, Norfolk, a village in Norfolk, England, United Kingdom
      USS Hoe (SS-258), a U.S. Navy submarine from World War II
      Richard March Hoe (1812-1886), an American inventor
      Robert Hoe (1784â"1833), an English-born American businessman, the father of Richard Hoe
      Robert Hoe III (1839â"1909), an American businessman, the grandson of Robert Hoe
      Homing Overlay Experiment, a project in the Strategic Defense Initiative
      Heroes Over Europe, a 2009 arcade flying video game, published by Ubisoft
      Chevrolet Tahoe, an automobile manufactured by the Chevrolet division of General Motors
      HOe scale, a narrow gauge variant of HO scale in model railroading
      Holographic Optical Element, a virtual lens or mirror in advanced imaging systems

      Are you sure you don't mean 'ho? That would have been mildly amusing, but "garden tool garden tool garden tool" just sounds stupid.

    6. Re:Greatest present ever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At the age of 5, I remember someone bringing a deck of cards to school, and all 53 of them were lewd, with most portraying some carnal acts. (The joker was very funny). Becauseee I did not own a dog,I learned about procreation that way.

      I guess I did ok, because I have three grandkids, one who is 7, who, from careful discussion with, I learned he already knows the facts of life. It is certainly far healthier for this information to be presented without lewdness. The true education course should start after puberty.

  2. Under Communism we won't have this problem by For+a+Free+Internet · · Score: 4, Funny

    Because nobody will be named Braydon. Under Communism, people will all have awesome names that can only be expressed with Korean characters.

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    1. Re:Under Communism we won't have this problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Well, if I were dictator-for-life, everyone would be renamed "Gaylord".

    2. Re:Under Communism we won't have this problem by atari2600a · · Score: 1

      Man Se Man Se Kim Jong-Il Jong Gul!

    3. Re:Under Communism we won't have this problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      North Korea is Fabulous Korea!

  3. That explains my present... by tbird81 · · Score: 5, Funny

    All I got was a bunch of simplistic children's games on my 3DS.

    1. Re:That explains my present... by davester666 · · Score: 5, Funny

      You're not holding it right.

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    2. Re:That explains my present... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      brilliant lol

  4. "Quality Control" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Best part of the article:
     
     

    GameStop is currently researching this situation. We have a rigorous quality control process in place

    As a former GameStop employee, I can personally attest to the fact that their "rigorous quality control process" consists of "Now don't get too stoned in the back room when you're on the clock."

    1. Re:"Quality Control" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let me guess, you didn't live up to their "rigorous quality control process" and that's why you're now "a former GameStop employee", right?

    2. Re:"Quality Control" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Based on his coherent post, I'd say he wasn't getting stoned enough to put up with such a dead end job for long.

    3. Re:"Quality Control" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why's that marked funny? It's still a higher standard than the industry average, is it not? :-)

    4. Re:"Quality Control" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not only that, but there's a good chance that they left it on there (or put it on there themself) as a joke.

    5. Re:"Quality Control" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm guessing that Gamestop likely did a system reset on the 3DS itself but that it had an SD card containing the "goods", and that must not have been wiped in the process.

  5. Why did the moron parents have to publicize this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Now their tragic tot will be forever google-linked to porno. What idiots!

  6. Parents also to blame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Yes, the store is at fault. But the parents do share a bit of it for NOT CHECKING the device, knowing it was a refurb and all.

    1. Re:Parents also to blame by arth1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I also question the uproar over a kid seeing sex, but no such uproar about children seeing violence and death.

      Sure, the store should have wiped it, but why is this so much worse than, say, a violent movie parents will let kids watch? Unless it was rape or CP, I don't see why it should be singled out as heinous. Kids used to sleep in the same room as relatives having sex, and apparently that didn't explode their little minds.

    2. Re:Parents also to blame by BitZtream · · Score: 2

      Considering they were giving an Nintendo product, not a Sony product, theres a good chance they considered the likelyhood of the kid seeing intense violence anyway. Nintendo has traditionally had a pretty strong stance towards keeping things kid friendly.

      I fully admit I haven't played a Nintendo game since I sold my Wii, but even then it was still pretty clear they target kid friendly.

      You don't really have any indication to assume the parents are letting the kid watch Saw based on the information given so why don't you climb off your high horse and stop making retarded assumptions, mmm'kay?

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    3. Re:Parents also to blame by arth1 · · Score: 2

      You don't really have any indication to assume the parents are letting the kid watch Saw based on the information given so why don't you climb off your high horse and stop making retarded assumptions, mmm'kay?

      I know it's a lot to ask, but RTFA? GIving their kids access to violence was apparently no problem; only seeing sex was.

    4. Re:Parents also to blame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't really have a problem with a kid seeing either one, but I do agree that the "violence is okay, but sex is evil" mentality is absolutely idiotic.

    5. Re:Parents also to blame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i cannot agree more, refurb or not.
      My son got his new 3DS for xmas, but we checked before (even though i hate it : we activated the parental control on it and updated it etc.)
      even without the porn on it, a 3DS without restrictions is way too much for a kid at that age.
      'hey, there's google on it... google, what does boobs mean?'

    6. Re:Parents also to blame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a 3DS without restrictions is way too much for a kid at that age.

      I fail to see why that would ever be the case. Perhaps it's just in people's imaginations that these things are harmful to children? I refer, of course, to prudes and imbeciles.

    7. Re:Parents also to blame by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Kids used to sleep in the same room as relatives having sex, and apparently that didn't explode their little minds.

      I don't know, people seemed really messed up in medieval Europe....maybe that was part of the reason. :)

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    8. Re:Parents also to blame by TFAFalcon · · Score: 1

      That was mostly the rich people who lived in big houses with plenty of rooms for privacy. The people the GP described were the guy the rich then killed for fun and profit.

    9. Re:Parents also to blame by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Titties are not for little kids!

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    10. Re:Parents also to blame by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The problem is the parents' own disposition towards sex, and their reluctance to having to talk with their kids about it.

      Scene A: Little Timmy sees a movie where a guy decapitates a woman.
      Timmy: Da ... daddy? What's that man doing to the woman?
      Dad: He's killing her, Timmy. Look away so you don't get nightmares, but try to relax, that's just a movie, that's not real.

      Scene B: Little Timmy sees a movie where a guy fucks a woman.
      Timmy: Da ... daddy? What's that man doing to the woman? (Note: The same question, asked with the same amount of innocence).
      Dad: He... he.... OH MY GOD! GO TO YOUR ROOM!

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    11. Re:Parents also to blame by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Just in case there is anyone wondering WHAT traumatized the kid in above story about Scene B more than Scene A could have: Not the scene itself, but his dad's reaction. In Scene A, he saw something horrible he didn't understand and his dad was there, by his side, comforting him and trying to rationalize it for him so he doesn't get upset. In Scene B, dad yells at him and Timmy thinks he did something bad, despite not knowing WHAT exactly he did wrong.

      What really traumatizes kids about porn is their parents' reaction.

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    12. Re:Parents also to blame by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I guess the church was more a problem. Funny enough, it didn't seem to have too much of a problem with the whole shagging-in-front-of-the-kids back then. At least I can't remember a pope issuing a bull (aptly named, btw) where he demanded that every family at least needs two separate bedrooms for parents and kids, if necessary provided by some kind of authority.

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    13. Re:Parents also to blame by Hentes · · Score: 1

      Children understand death sooner than they understand sex. There's also different levels of violence and nudity, but only the dumbest hippy would call Nintendo violent.

    14. Re:Parents also to blame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I also question the uproar over a kid seeing sex, but no such uproar about children seeing violence and death.

      FUD. There is always an uproar when kids commit or have committed upon them acts of violence and death. This is true as far back as the first school massacre in the USA in 1927.

      The real problem is the parents, not the children. A lot of parents are simply to simple to understand that humans are not only the most violent species on Earth, but also one of the most sexual. Simple brain parents have literally no understanding of anthropology nor evolution, which leads to over-protection and overreacting to natural things.

      The bottom line is that as of now we merely know we are violent and sexual beings. We have no viable way of ridding those qualities from our species (while remaining human), and we lack the knowledge of the full benefits and detriments these qualities provide. In fact, there is very strong evidence to support the idea that sexual and violent human behaviors are deeply intertwined.

      Sex and violence are useful tools nature has evolved to strengthen social bonds and procreation potential. Many many species use both to establish and main dominance hierarchies As products of evolution there is no currently known way to remove those tools without causing the extinction of the species in question.

    15. Re:Parents also to blame by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 1

      Seriously. Maybe this kid's dad is different, and he sees it every day, but I know that anything that made my dad cry would have sure as hell traumatized me.

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    16. Re:Parents also to blame by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      There is always an uproar when kids commit or have committed upon them acts of violence and death.

      He was talking about when kids see violence and death (video games, movies, books, etc.).

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    17. Re:Parents also to blame by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      The peasants were all sterling examples of justice, goodness, and fairness, is that what you're saying?

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    18. Re:Parents also to blame by TFAFalcon · · Score: 1

      No, but they were no more messed up then people now - you know, go work in the fields, take care of the livestock, burn the occasional witch,..
      It was the nobility that liked to play RTSs using their serfs. And those guys weren't exactly raised in their parent's bedrooms.

    19. Re:Parents also to blame by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Sure, the store should have wiped it, but why is this so much worse than, say, a violent movie parents will let kids watch?

      If my kids were little and I'd bought this box, I'd have been pissed when I saw the images (and the kids never would have seen them) whether it was porn or The Terminator.

    20. Re:Parents also to blame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Much like toy trains, yes they are. Still dad ends up playing w them both more than the kids do.

  7. Really? by symbolset · · Score: 1

    Is this story not trite already? "Child's electronic gift with porn" runs every year at this time.

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    1. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Slashdot is really disappointing me. The least they could do would before to blame it on the 3DS being closed-source.

    2. Re:Really? by tbird81 · · Score: 1

      We've already had our yearly "Oxford dictionary has new word!" story for the year.

      What we really need is news about a new version of Firefox, somebody doing something with a Raspberry Pi. And I can't live without reading stories about Samsung or Apple.

  8. Make love not war by NettiWelho · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Someone care to do a cultural translation for an european why its okay for kids to play with tanks and guns(both seen in TFA video) yet them seeing naked people is like your kids life is ruined?

    1. Re:Make love not war by esldude · · Score: 1

      Because even by age 5, in US culture, the child won't blink an eye at tanks and guns. He has seen hundreds already. Lots of simulated killing too. He, being a sheltered US child, has not seen porn. Therefore the trauma. Maybe porn should be introduced earlier in life when the child hasn't developed enough to do more than soak it all in as normal like is done for war-like behaviors and killing. Yes, I agree it is a messed up situation. No, I don't really think porn should be introduced earlier.

    2. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      One of the major US political parties has strong ties/support from/panders too a Fundamentalist Christian segment of the population.

      The other one has a similar relationship with busybody urban mothers who "Think of the Children".

      Not that Australia is much different. *Sigh*

    3. Re:Make love not war by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Given that most European countries have laws against selling pornography to minors (albeit that exactly what is banned and what is not depends on the specific country and culture, ranging from more strict to more lax than the laws in the U.S.), perhaps you should consult with people closer to home?

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_by_region#Europe

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    4. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know of any countries where pornography is permitted, or even suggested as "should be ok but still illegal" for a 5 year old.

      Hint: Porn isn't pictures of naked people. It's pictured showing erotic behaviour. Pornography doesn't even require pictures of "privates" or breasts to be porn. Heck, if you include people outside of popular opinion, porn doesn't even require pictures of people!

    5. Re:Make love not war by evil_aaronm · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I still don't see why nakedness should be considered "wrong." The Fundies support it, even if not openly, when they hide or relocate a priest that diddles boys. And aren't Republicans caught, now and then, in peccadilloes involving Congressional pages, or airport bathroom sex? They're obviously not bastions of sexual purity. So, again, why is seeing naked people "bad"? Wait - is this one of those "hypocritical" things?

    6. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll take a shot at it. It's because it is conceptually clear that tanks and guns have the effect of defending, or attacking, the interests of others. Such clarity is easy for even someone young to mentally understand. Fucking is indirect fraud of the person fucked, and conceptually indirect to the degree not only that young people are unlikely to understand that aspect of it, but indirect enough that people can do very well in being unchallenged when denying this, such as yourself.

    7. Re:Make love not war by astro · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I think you miss the point of the question, or at least a very important point here. Nudity != pornography, at least in Europe. It is not at all rare to see nudity in commercials or programs in much of European TV, for example, even on, say, Viva, the German analogue to MTV. Which is of course watched by kids.

      Now this in itself may be off topic to the original post here, as it does sound that what the child found on the 3DS could be considered pornography most anywhere. I still think it is a very interesting set of questions: Where does the line between art, or documentary photography, and porn lie? How does this vary by country, or regionally? At what age is nudity ok for people to view? And what age pornography? What affect does viewing such "too early" have?

      Now, I'm ultra-liberal. I don't believe pornography should be regulated for adults, and I believe that education is the best defense, not regulation beyond reason (again, entirely subjective).

      So, apologies for being off-topic, but I think parent should think twice before dismissing the question of differing cultural and national attitudes toward nudity.

    8. Re:Make love not war by slackware+3.6 · · Score: 2

      "Do you like getting your dick sucked?
      Do you like sucking dick?
      If you don't like sucking dick you sir are a hypocrite."

    9. Re:Make love not war by BitZtream · · Score: 0

      The Fundies support it, even if not openly, when they hide or relocate a priest that diddles boys.

      Thats one of the most retarded thoughts I've seen in ages.

      You think that hiding something you aren't proud of is the same as consenting? Wow, just wow. 'Fundies' don't 'support it' you idiot, otherwise they would be all about letting people know they do it. You typically hide things you don't want others knowing you do because you don't think its acceptable to be doing it. Your logic is about as ass backwards as it gets.

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    10. Re:Make love not war by Evtim · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Poking silliness should never stop, otherwise the silly might decide they got it right...

    11. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Redundant

      I am an American, with no guns, and am not sexually repressed.
      When you speak in absolutes, it only takes one example to prove your entire statement incorrect.

      Don't worry, one day you'll learn that people are actually different, and no two are alike.
      Until that day however, please stop filling slashdot with posts of complete lies.

    12. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. It is one of those "hypocritical" things, and the hypocrisy here is all yours.

      Are you saying what the priests did is, or is not, wrong--or both at the same time, without even bothering to have more than a couple words separating your position reversal?

      The position of the Catholic Church would be what they did was wrong. Your position on it remains entirely unclear.

    13. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      For the same reason people make fun of the Dear Leader in articles about North Korea. It's a culture so fucking insane outsiders simply can't understand it.

    14. Re:Make love not war by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 2

      He, being a sheltered US child, has not seen porn. Therefore the trauma.

      What trauma?

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    15. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you just an idiot? He talked about how nakedness shouldn't be considered wrong, not about how having sex with little boys shouldn't be considered wrong. Apparently the latter is okay to certain people, but a lot of people have problems with the former.

    16. Re:Make love not war by GloomE · · Score: 5, Insightful

      He, being a sheltered US child, has not seen porn. Therefore the trauma.

      What trauma?

      The trauma where the parents run around yelling THE SKY IS FALLING!

    17. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Do you not understand that most of the American Fundamentalist Christian "movement" is Baptists (Southern and otherwise), who are possibly the only group who hates Catholic Priests more than 12-years old boys? Yes, some of the Fundamentalists are hard-line Catholics and those ones are arguably hypocritical about it, but they're the minority. And the flavors of Christian churches that don't teach clerical celibacy are strangely unblighted by pedophilia scandals -- almost as though limiting sex to marriage is less psychologically harmful than total sexual repression, or as though selecting for people who are willing to have absolutely no _known_ sexual relationships inadvertently selects for those whose sexual desires must already be concealed for other reasons (i.e. pedophiles).

    18. Re:Make love not war by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      I don't know of any countries where pornography is permitted, or even suggested as "should be ok but still illegal" for a 5 year old.

      That might be because people fall for the "save the children" rhetoric time and time again.

      Hint: Porn isn't pictures of naked people. It's pictured showing erotic behaviour. Pornography doesn't even require pictures of "privates" or breasts to be porn. Heck, if you include people outside of popular opinion, porn doesn't even require pictures of people!

      Porn can be anything.

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    19. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where does the line between art, or documentary photography, and porn lie?

      That's easy. It lies somewhere between the genitals and anus, and is called the taint.

    20. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I still don't see why nakedness should be considered "wrong." The Fundies support it, even if not openly, when they hide or relocate a priest that diddles boys.

      No, I'm just a guy who can read. As an exercise for your own ability to do so, please state what the word "it" refers to in this sentence, specifically. "Two different things" is valid according to neither English nor logic.

    21. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's because it is conceptually clear that tanks and guns have the effect of defending, or attacking, the interests of others.

      Right, and when they're mowing down all those innocents in a Grand Theft Auto game, I'm sure that's what they're keeping in mind.

      Fucking is indirect fraud of the person fucked, and conceptually indirect to the degree not only that young people are unlikely to understand that aspect of it, but indirect enough that people can do very well in being unchallenged when denying this

      Children are probably ignorant of many things, but that doesn't mean they'll be traumatized if they see them. I don't have a problem with violence or porn, but idiots who have a problem with porn but not violence lack intelligence to such a degree that they shouldn't have even had a kid to begin with.

    22. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
      YES! if you're hiding something you KNOW is WRONG(whether you're proud of it or not has no relevance) then you ARE quietly supporting/consenting it, especially if what you're hiding is a crime, it's called aiding and abetting.

      You typically hide things you don't want others knowing you do because you don't think its acceptable to be doing it..

      So true but you pass an event horizon when what you are hiding is a crime, especially when you're aware that it's a crime and the fact that it is are a part of the reason you are hiding it.

    23. Re:Make love not war by Charliemopps · · Score: 2

      I'm actually going to answer this stupid old argument: Because Gun Violence is not something that "tempting" or a kid could jump into thinking nothing bad would likely happen. Sex however is something any kid can do, and the chances of it destroying their lives is relatively low from their limit perspective. The chance that the kid will decide to have risky sex at a young age is well above 50% and the impact of viewing porn on that would be rather significant.

      The chance that a kid is going to kill someone is probably less than 1 in 100,000 and the affect violent videogames or images have on this is almost negligible.

      You let your kid watch 4hrs of porn a day, and I'll let mine play halflife. Lets see who ends up in prison first.

    24. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You might be able to read, but you cannot comprehend what you read. If you could, you'd be able to figure out what he was saying without being so pedantic. Actually, chances are you know exactly what he said but are just trolling.

    25. Re:Make love not war by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      Lets see who ends up in prison first.

      Neither of them?

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    26. Re:Make love not war by tbird81 · · Score: 0

      Can you tell me why you call yourself a European, rather than a German, a Spaniard, a Belgian or wherever you're actually from?

      People from Africa will tell you the country they are from. People from the US will tell you the state they are from.

      Are you ashamed of your country or something? Or do you just like to play the "smarmy European" role?

    27. Re:Make love not war by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      and the affect violent videogames or images have on this is almost negligible.

      Oh, of course, but porn will make them have sex. And we know this is all true because you said so.

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    28. Re:Make love not war by tbird81 · · Score: 1

      Or are you Austrian?

    29. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you seen some of the people they put in porn? I'd rather watch people be decapitated and run through chipper shredders than see those fat fucks boning those leathery looking women with the badly done fake tits.

    30. Re:Make love not war by Kjella · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes, Americans do have some serious issues with nudity in non-sexual context but from TFA there's every indication that this was porn or at least erotic images and we don't let kids have that in Europe either. I wouldn't care at all if my kid got a half second nipple flash during the Superbowl, for all I care we could go to a nude beach but I would get pretty pissed if I bought a 3DS for my kid and it had porn on it. As for violence, there's degrees to everything - I don't remember exactly how old I was when we first started pointing plastic guns and saying "bang bang you're dead" but I wasn't that old yet it wasn't exactly like seeing Saving Private Ryan. I wouldn't worry one bit if my kid was laughing his ass off at the Road Runner tricking Wile E. Coyote to fall down a cliff, there will come a time and place where it's natural to talk about the difference between play violence and reality.

      I'm guessing a good time would be around the first time I find - or hear a wish for some semi-realistic FPS game, if you're old enough to pretend running around shooting people/monsters you're old enough for that talk too. About real people that don't respawn, that don't have magic medikits to fix them, that experience genuine fear and terror at gunpoint, that end up crippled or scarred for life or die bleeding out in the gutter, about widows and orphans, friends and family left behind. But there's a time and place for that talk, just like when your five year old want to play house with a mommy and a daddy it's still not time for the "okay, but remember to use a condom" talk. What next, are you going to point out the electric car track I had wasn't realistic because the car would be totaled and the driver dead if it crashed like that? Reality will get gritty enough in time.

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    31. Re:Make love not war by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 1

      Porn can be anything.

      The censors are going to have a field day with this one.

    32. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you like eating? Do you like getting eaten?
      If you don't like getting eaten you sir are a hypocrite.

    33. Re:Make love not war by Scarletdown · · Score: 1

      Where does the line between art, or documentary photography, and porn lie?

      That's easy. It lies somewhere between the genitals and anus, and is called the taint.

      Are you sure it isn't called The Coffee Table?

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    34. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the kids are under 10 then there is no real risk to the sex.

    35. Re:Make love not war by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

      You let your kid watch 4hrs of porn a day, and I'll let mine play halflife. Lets see who ends up in prison first.

      I'm not even sure what the fuck you are trying to argue with that statement. My guess would be that most kids would get pretty grossed out by porn, or bored with it until they hit puberty. Are you actually arguing that being a horny teenager increases the chances of going to prison? Seriously?

      I think not talking to your kids and/or not educating them about sex is significantly more dangerous than them viewing porn. Even so, how in the hell is that going to increase their chances of going to prison?

    36. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because the moment a European tells the country he is from, others bombard him with country-specific clichés, glad that now they don't need arguments anymore.

    37. Re:Make love not war by arth1 · · Score: 1

      Do you not understand that most of the American Fundamentalist Christian "movement" is Baptists (Southern and otherwise), who are possibly the only group who hates Catholic Priests more than 12-years old boys?

      Don't forget the Boy Scout scandals, which appear to dwarf the Catholic Priest scandals in scope.

      In short, don't put morally repressed adults in charge of children.

    38. Re:Make love not war by azalin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The Fundies support it, even if not openly, when they hide or relocate a priest that diddles boys.

      Thats one of the most retarded thoughts I've seen in ages.

      You think that hiding something you aren't proud of is the same as consenting? Wow, just wow. 'Fundies' don't 'support it' you idiot, otherwise they would be all about letting people know they do it. You typically hide things you don't want others knowing you do because you don't think its acceptable to be doing it. Your logic is about as ass backwards as it gets.

      If you think it's unacceptable, then why hide it and HELP the perpetrator? A criminal should be dragged to court and receive trial. Hiding his crime(s) so it doesn't make your community look bad is dishonest and hypocrite at best. If one claims morals to be important, one should follow them and set an example.
      In my opinion everyone involved in such hush ups should be arrested as an accessory. They are basically saying "Well this guy raped you, but it would be bad PR to call the police. He's probably sorry, so we'll just give him a new job in a place, where no one knows about his special interests. - Oh and don't tell anybody or we'll make your life even more miserably."
      If you hide evidence of a serious crime you are at the very least obstructing justice and have voided all authority to speak on morals.

    39. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      He's talking about the parents reactions, not the laws that are applicable. Its a valid point. You are safe to look at a game simulating acts which would be illegal in real life, but if you look at two humans engaging in a natural activity, it's dangerous? Its a double standard brought about by prudish beliefs, and that's why children get traumatised by this kind of thing. If they had sat the child down and explained "They were having sex, its how people make babys, you will be much older before you do it" then there would be no trauma and no reason to get the media involved.

    40. Re:Make love not war by Andtalath · · Score: 2

      Porn is a piece of media created with the intent of provoking sexual arousal.

    41. Re:Make love not war by MouseTheLuckyDog · · Score: 1

      Yes, some of the Fundamentalists are hard-line Catholics and those ones are arguably hypocritical about it, but they're the minority.

      Hard-line Catholics can hardly be called Fundamentalists. In some aspects they totally agree but in other aspects they strongly differ. It is also not very fair to call a certain sector of hard-line hypocritical about this issue. Specifically the "Malachi Martin" "many priests are not good catholics much less good priests" sector of the hard-liners.

      And the flavors of Christian churches that don't teach clerical celibacy are strangely unblighted by pedophilia scandals -- almost as though limiting sex to marriage is less psychologically harmful than total sexual repression,

      An unfair and inaccurate representation and example of false causation inferred from a maively correlation. " Flavors of Christian churches that don't teach clerical celibacy" basically means Catholicism. However in no other religious organization is the priesthood so tightly bonded to the organization. Catholic priests are told where to live and work by the Catholic hierarchy. Their needs are almost completely provided for by the Catholic hierarchy. In turn priests run the Catholic Church. You do not see such interreliance in any other religious organization.

      Naturally a portion of priesthood being involved in a scandal is going to reflect on the Catholic Church, especially when the hierarchy covers it up. However, it is not clear that you can attribute it to celibacy. We have recently seen an organization of men which do not practice celibacy involved in a similar albeit smaller scandal, specifically the Pen State athletic department. Furthermore in many sects of Buddhism the priesthood is required to be celibate, but I haven't seen any pedophile scandals in Buddhism.

    42. Re:Make love not war by chthon · · Score: 1

      Are you aware that some people call themselves British, even though Britain consists of England, Wales and Scotland?

      Or that there are people who call themselves German, even though Germany is a federation of a whole lot of regions. Have a look at the history of Germany, how long the entity Germany only exists and the dissolving of Prussia.

      I think it is better for people in Europe to start calling themselves Europeans, while at the same time embracing the regional differences there are in geography, climate, language and culture.

      Look at history, and see what happens when a cultural entity is not prepared to adapt, but staunchly keeps to its roots, e.g. the Spartans.

    43. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      When I meet American tourists in Europe or Asia they usually tell me they're from the US, and the state they're from often gets mentioned only if and when I ask about it. Are those people playing a "smarmy American" role, or do they perhaps feel that in a more global context a more global description of where you come from is more likely to be understood and therefore more appropriate?

      It seems to me that there is a slow increase in people identifying themselves as Europeans. That could indicate a European identity is growing, despite all the anti-EU sentiments floating around at the moment. Is that somehow smarmier than for example a pledge of allegience being recited at the start of each school day? We have no such thing where I come from (the Netherlands, Europe).

    44. Re:Make love not war by Kergan · · Score: 2

      This is not insightful at all...

      European countries are, for the most part, exemplar in the way they legalized porn. Give an honest look into the list and consider the roaches:

      One is Azerbaijan. I say no. Not just no; Hell, no. Europe traditionally stops at the Caucus mountain. Look it up on a map: It has long border with oh-so-notoriously-porn-friendly Iran... The place doesn't even sound European. No game.

      There are then a couple of Central and Eastern European countries with stricter laws, namely Bulgaria, Poland, some Baltic and Balkan States, and Ukraine. They're still barely out of the Soviet block, which as you're keenly aware was a model in its forward thinking. I'd then stress that throughout history, new ideas in Europe have mostly come from the West, and then spread to the East; and that this here is no different. Lastly, and frankly, the law merely needs to catch up with society in most if not all of these countries.

      Amongst the latter group, Albania might stand out as more traditional, due to it being a Muslim country. I've admittedly never been there, so I cannot say for sure. But having observed bearded Muslims in Moroccan night clubs, I'm highly suspicious that it makes much difference.

      The last country worth a mention is Malta. Fwiw, the place is the most reactionary State that catholic Europe has to offer, bar the Vatican itself. The church is so influential that Malta legalized divorce a mere two years ago, and by a rather thin margin at that. Most locals go to church, but WO a caveat: my sampling is admittedly anecdotal, but the younger generations do so less and less. This is a 40-year process, really: the island has been changing at rapid pace since it became a tourist resort. The Maltese youth gets drunk and gets laid like in any other western country: in a gigantic feast of debaucheries and sex games. Methinks there too,, law needs to catch up with society.

      Anyway, yeah, there are a few traditional communities in Europe. Here's the thing, though: they're catching up, and not turning back. In contrast, the US features reasonably modern and sophisticated communities, some more traditional ones, and then there are openly backward ones -- some of which actively reject modernity to the point of regression. Of the latter, it seems to me that Europe has very, very few.

    45. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If we're gonna toss around stereotypes, how's this for an answer
      To avoid confusing the geographically challenged? :p

    46. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But even if something isn't created with the intent to cause sexual arousal, it can still cause it.

    47. Re:Make love not war by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      I don't consider the argument, "US Congressional representatives do it" to really be an endorsement of any behavior

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    48. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We don't need country specific cliches. We think all Europeans are a little fruity.

      But back on target, If we know where you are from we can point out the hypocrisy usually.

    49. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_by_region#Europe

      I think you just found the best page on Wikipedia.

    50. Re:Make love not war by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      How about sending them BOTH to hell and starting over? I mean, it's not like a lot of value could be lost anymore...

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    51. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you like getting your dick sucked?

      Only if it is by a girl.

      Do you like sucking dick?

      Only if it is on a girl.

      If you don't like sucking dick you sir are a hypocrite.

      Sorry, extension not found.

    52. Re:Make love not war by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Last time I checked our law books, helping someone hiding a crime is a crime by itself.

      Of course, unless you're a church, that is.

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    53. Re:Make love not war by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Ok, another example. What happens to a priest who abuses boys? He gets sent to another parish to repeat ... erh, repent his sins.

      What would happen to a priest who streaks naked through the church? Also while thinking nobody can see him, not during service, of course.

      And which of the two is worse?

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    54. Re:Make love not war by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      I think the difference here is the definition of "pornography". Over here, the average tabloid sports a naked chick on page 3 (or was it 5? Maybe someone who reads that kinda paper can provide the details), which can be bought by any child of any age.

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    55. Re:Make love not war by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Who defines that "intent"? The creator? The "consumer"?

      I create a newspaper showing pictures of furniture in suggestive poses with the intention to provoke sexual arousal (though I can't really think of anyone who could get off to a chair lying "seductively" in front of a table, but ... hey, whatever floats someone's boat). Is it porn?

      I read a shoe catalog and, being a shoe fetishist, I get very aroused by it, and since some of those shoes are presented on women's feet they clearly are meant to incite arousal with me. Is it porn?

      Seriously, that's about the worst definition because it is subjective as hell.

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    56. Re:Make love not war by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I guess my almost 40 years are too young to understand what the f... this is supposed to mean.

      Could you elaborate on that "indirect fraud" part?

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    57. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most countries also have laws against consuming pot, but that doesn't mean that a kid's life will be ruined if he takes a hit on a bong.

    58. Re:Make love not war by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Well, it takes one person plus one gun to shoot another one, but you need two people willing and able to get close enough to each other to touch for sex.

      I dunno, I'd say who ends up in court depends on two things. First, how likely your kid has access to a gun and how well you can teach your kid that it's NOT ok to settle a dispute by killing the other one, no matter what he sees in that games and movies, and second, how well I can teach my kid that sex needs consent from everyone involved to be ok.

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    59. Re:Make love not war by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      It may surprise you, but quite a few people are feeling "European" rather than German, French or Spanish. Even though it seems our politicians didn't quite get the idea of the European Union yet...

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    60. Re:Make love not war by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      All fine and dandy, but my thought would be "FU..! If I hadn't checked that thing before I hand it to my five year old, he'd have seen that crap!"

      Not "FU..! How DARE they put this crap on the device I dump on my five year old without even taking half a look at it first to see if it's ok for him".

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    61. Re:Make love not war by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      Over here, the average tabloid sports a naked chick on page 3 (or was it 5? Maybe someone who reads that kinda paper can provide the details), which can be bought by any child of any age.

      The poor children living there must all be in mental institutions by now!

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    62. Re:Make love not war by argStyopa · · Score: 1

      I think the above poster him/herself missed the point of the question, which was (in my reading) a question about why Americans value protecting their children from nudity more than violence; if one was cynical, it could be seen as a tedious re-hashing of the old "why Americans are bad and Euros are so much better" point, namely that the US is prudish about nudity (while 'sophisticated' Euros aren't) and disregards violence (which 'sophisticated' Euros feel is much worse).

      There are lots of deep explanations but I think the simplest are:
      - the US was founded, generally, by religious conservatives; thus even today religion - and the sensibilities of the faithful, for those who themselves aren't - looms larger culturally in the US than Europe.
      - the US hasn't had a significant war on its soil for nearly 150 years, and certainly never one in which whole cities were firebombed, or whole ethnic groups nearly exterminated
      - the US has historically been much more spread-out, and simple geography has meant that individuals have historically had to take a more active role in protecting themselves; couple that with a culture in which hunting has been much more significant (WI alone has something like 600,000 registered hunters) and therefore guns are far more familiar as useful tools ...I think those combined has left the US with a distinctly different approach to violence/guns and nudity/sex than Europe.
      Personally, I find it interesting to explore this stuff with my European friends, until some asswipe from one side or the other starts injecting the almost-inevitable 'why our system is so much better than theirs' that quickly destroys the value in such a discussion.

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    63. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He didn't say "US Congressional representatives", he said Republicans. It was a purely partisan attack because apparently, hypocritically, it's OK if a Democrat does it.

    64. Re:Make love not war by Golddess · · Score: 1

      Well by that logic, since OP did not specifically mention high school teachers, it is also ok for them to do such things to their students. And since OP also did not specifically mention sports coaches, it is also ok for them to do such things to their players. And since OP also did not....

      Or maybe the fact that OP did not specifically mention Group X does not mean that OP supports Group X doing it?

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    65. Re:Make love not war by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      I don't think "hypocrite" means what you think it means.

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    66. Re:Make love not war by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      The abuse. There's nothing "wrong" with running around naked. It might not be socially accepted, but that doesn't make it wrong.

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    67. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you like sucking dick?

      Only if it is on a girl.

      I've got a pretty big stack of Japanese futanari porn you might be interested in...

    68. Re:Make love not war by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      What are you talking about? It offends me! If I don't like the look of something and/or it offends me, it must be banned entirely!

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    69. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, going by your plastic guns scenario, you would happily buy your kid a blow up sex doll as well, then? I mean, it isn't the real thing, it is just a hilarious wacky doll of the appearance of a human with all the inny and outy bits, right?

      Don't even pretend.

    70. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In America they put bras on classical female statues to cover them up...

    71. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Porn is a piece of media created with the intent of provoking sexual arousal.

      Incorrect. The word "pornography" means to depict in excessive detail. Note what is missing from the definition, 'what' is being depicted in excessive detail? Your definition (the one 99% of people assume is correct) is the core reason why a "porn" filter is an insanely dangerous censorship weapon.

    72. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget the teachers, whose incident rate dwarfs them all.

    73. Re:Make love not war by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      Pointing out hypocrisy usually just serves to make people feel better. Someone being a hypocrite doesn't invalidate his/her arguments.

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    74. Re:Make love not war by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I think it is better for people in Europe to start calling themselves Europeans

      If I was a Belgian I'd think exactly the same.

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    75. Re:Make love not war by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Or do you just like to play the "smarmy European" role?

      That word doesn't mean what you think it does, fatty.

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    76. Re:Make love not war by Kjella · · Score: 1

      Not "FU..! How DARE they put this crap on the device I dump on my five year old without even taking half a look at it first to see if it's ok for him".

      If it comes neatly wrapped in a box from the store, I'm not going to unpack it, fiddle around with it for 30 seconds then pack it back in so my kid can pack it out again a bit later or if I did I'd probably just check that it powers up and isn't DOA before putting it back in the box. It's a 3DS, not a mystery box so of course it should be ok. If it had been bought second hand then sure, but not at the store. That some people here seem to think that's something you're "supposed to do" is the real WTF to me, do you also have a hazmat team sweep the playground before you let the kids play there? Because you know, there's always a 0.000001% risk an HIV-infected drug addict left a needle there last night and if you did it's totally your fault for not making sure it's safe...

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    77. Re:Make love not war by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Yeah, we are all so completely desensitized to the whole sex crap that we don't even turn around anymore if we see some boobs. I guess the average kid would go "tsk... fake!"

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    78. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wile E. Coyote gets crushed by a 10 ton anvil; 30 seconds later, he's as good as new. This is not reality. When we preferentially show this, as opposed to realistic violence with realistic consequences, to a child who is in the process of learning to differentiate reality from fiction, what do we expect to happen? How many children have ever hurt a sibling without full appreciation for the fact that that sibling wouldn't be "all better" right away?

    79. Re:Make love not war by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1


      Someone care to do a cultural translation for an european why its okay for kids to play with tanks and guns(both seen in TFA video) yet them seeing naked people is like your kids life is ruined?

      War is the health of the State. The State sets broadcast standards. Results are non-surprising.

      Just think of how much harder military recruitment would be in the high schools if students weren't raised on a steady appetite of violence.

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    80. Re:Make love not war by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1

      Until they then realize censorship is porn, and ban it. But then on the way home they further realize that the banning of porn is also porn and their head explodes. (also porn).

    81. Re:Make love not war by Arclight17 · · Score: 1

      Huh, so that's where I left that needle. Oh, cool, my 3DS too!

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    82. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks, I just used it because it traditionally goes well with Europeans. But nowadays, perhaps arrogant dickhead would be more appropriate.

    83. Re:Make love not war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes it would. If we found out that in his country people had the same views and have the same media reporting on a similar episode he'd be wrong, because he was framing it as an American problem.

      I'd love to know whereabouts in Europe it is okay to show pornography to 5 year olds. And I'd also love to know where in the US this guy thinks people show their five year olds violent imagery!

    84. Re:Make love not war by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      I read it as, something you might restate as "hey its no big deal even societies betters like our elected officials do this stuff so it must be okay,"

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    85. Re:Make love not war by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      If we found out that in his country people had the same views and have the same media reporting on a similar episode he'd be wrong, because he was framing it as an American problem.

      I meant in general, not when it's directly relevant. And that'd only make a single one of his points wrong.

      I'd love to know whereabouts in Europe it is okay to show pornography to 5 year olds.

      It's not really surprising that the "save the children" nonsense exists in Europe as well.

      And I'd also love to know where in the US this guy thinks people show their five year olds violent imagery!

      A number of parents buy their kids violent video games. I play Doom, and while it came out when I was older, I've heard of a lot of people that began playing it when they were about five or so. Violent media is everywhere.

      But I don't think that violent media is bad for children, either.

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    86. Re:Make love not war by Maritz · · Score: 1

      Your sig offends me even though I know it's ironic/facetious. Please delete it immediately. Thank you in advance.

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  9. market testing a new model.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    3DS XXX-L

  10. Next year: Nintendo 3XS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Don't worry, most 5-year-olds won't make the connection.

  11. Why is the human body so evil? by PoopMonkey · · Score: 2

    Seriously, if the dad thinks his kid is never gonna set tits, pussy, and/or cock, he's deluded.

    1. Re:Why is the human body so evil? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the hormones are going to kick in regardless (and they are), then I would suggest you should probably prepare them for sex before that happens. As opposed to trying to put it off until after they've done something stupid due to said hormones.

    2. Re:Why is the human body so evil? by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      Your nick shows you're clearly mature

      How relevant to the issue at hand! Here, allow me to arbitrarily decide that you're not mature based on your name on Slashdot...

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    3. Re:Why is the human body so evil? by flimflammer · · Score: 2

      ...wow, really? Their bodies are already going nuts on hormones and yet you still don't think it's time to teach your kids about sex?

      You are the problem.

    4. Re:Why is the human body so evil? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It depends upon the nature of those images.

      There is nothing wrong with a kid seeing a naked human body. Indeed, a lot of them will see naked human bodies prior to reaching puberty. I doubt that seeing sex is dangerous for their well being. Indeed, a lot of them will be exposed to sex prior to reaching puberty.

      The problem is that a lot of sexual images are about sexual fantasies that may be dangerous, ranging from encouraging gender stereotypes to making children more susceptible to adult predators. It's not that sex is evil, but certain types of sexual acts are evil.

      Given that these images were put on a 3DS then the 3DS was returned to the store, it is quite probable that their purpose was not innocent

    5. Re:Why is the human body so evil? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but certain types of sexual acts are evil.

      What? Such as? As long as it's consensual, it's fine.

      it is quite probable that their purpose was not innocent

      Actually, it's quite probable that the parents are oversensitive trash.

    6. Re:Why is the human body so evil? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Hmmm... if hormones kick in and kids apparently "want" to have sex due to them, I guess nature's trying to tell you something.

      If it happens before kids understand what they're doing, you failed as a parent.

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    7. Re:Why is the human body so evil? by Arclight17 · · Score: 1

      Rape, for one. Yes, pedantic, you specified consensual. But it's definitely evil.

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  12. Re:Why did the moron parents have to publicize thi by ifiwereasculptor · · Score: 5, Funny

    What did you expect from the folks who named their kids Bryton and Braydon?

  13. Translation by matt-fu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Rookie dad totally forgets that five year old life is highly focused on things interesting to a five year old and not at all focused on boring things like long speeches and naked people. Five year old is understandably interested at father figure whose freakout knob is set to 11. Later, five year old sees dad preening for the camera and thinks it looks like a good time, joins in.

    This kid would have totally forgotten it if not for his dad's reaction. I weep for the culture which has to deal with this guy's kids 15 years from now.

    1. Re:Translation by tnk1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I assure you, having seen my first porn at around age 6 or so, courtesy of another kid down the street whose Dad didn't hide his collection very well, that you don't actually forget that you saw it even if your parents have no idea you saw it. I can't remember for the life of me anything about it, but I knew it was porn.

    2. Re:Translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't remember for the life of me anything about it, but I knew it was porn.

      The only traumatic part about it is realizing some time later that your own parents have sex, too. A kid would rather not know that.

    3. Re:Translation by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, you don't forget it. But, honestly, did it "warp and twist" you? Did it "traumatize" you?

      I tell you what it was for me. It was a source of a lot of giggling together with my friend looking at the porn stash of his (then 19 year old) brother, it was a naughty and kinda-sorta forbidden experience, it was exciting, but not for its sexual content but more 'cause we both knew that we weren't supposed to sneak into his brother's room and go through his "naughty" magazines, it was more a thrill of the forbidden than anything sexual at all. Thinking back, the "thrill level" was pretty much on par with sneaking into my grandpa's tool shed and touching (not even using, just being there and "handling") his "adult" tools that we were not allowed to touch (for good reason, acetylene welding torches sure ain't for kids!).

      It was the thrill of the forbidden. But seriously, not the sexual content.

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    4. Re:Translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll second that, same thing happened to me.

    5. Re:Translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're completely missing the point. The point is the kid remembered it because it became a significant event, just as your journey was a significant even in your memory. The parent was claiming that the father's reaction was the primary reason the event was significant to the child. Now I don't know that I agree 100%, because of the description of the porn, but I do find it rather odd that he would proceed to delete the material rather than just haul the thing back to the store.

      "Yes, I'd like to report some hardcore dungeon rape porn on a 3DS I just bought"
      "Err, what? Like, pornography? On a system we sold?"
      "Yes. And I've deleted it now. Kindly give me satisfaction or I shall verbally abuse and/or publicly ridicule you."
      "Wait, you deleted it already? So we're just supposed to take you at your word?"
      "Yes. And I have my 6 year old child who will of course be an excellent and completely unbiased witness."

    6. Re:Translation by Christian+Smith · · Score: 1

      I assure you, having seen my first porn at around age 6 or so, ... I can't remember for the life of me anything about it, but I knew it was porn.

      Which sorts of proves his point, no?

    7. Re:Translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have very well forgotten the first time I saw porn. I do remember how amused my mother was when she saw my playboy screensaver when I was 10 but that was much much later. You only remember it as something special because it was something adults tried particularly hard to hide from you. Even if your parents weren't there in person they had clearly already instilled the "porn is very, very bad" attitude.

  14. Don't feel sorry for the parents by xQuarkDS9x · · Score: 1

    I can not feel sorry for the parents at all, period. How hard would it have been for them to turn the device on and see what if any personal data was on it and then delete it all? Friends of mine have bought used phones over the years and they would occasionally have a device full of personal family photos, videos, apps, you name it.

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    1. Re:Don't feel sorry for the parents by cdrudge · · Score: 1

      How hard would it have been for them to turn the device on and see what if any personal data was on it and then delete it all?

      How many parents that have bought a 3DS even realize that it can take and/or store pictures? If that number is anywhere above 10%, I'd be shocked.

    2. Re:Don't feel sorry for the parents by Phroggy · · Score: 1

      Typically when giving someone a gift, you don't try it out first before giving it to them; you allow the recipient the opportunity to experience whatever initial setup may be required (even if you have to help them with it). This 3DS was used, but there's a reasonable expectation that it was sold in a "like new" condition; the hardware may be worn, but I would expect the software to behave exactly like turning on a brand new unit for the first time.

      I don't blame the parents here (although they did choose silly names for their kids). And I don't really blame the individual employee who allowed this to happen. The root of the problem is GameStop's corporate culture.

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    3. Re:Don't feel sorry for the parents by flimflammer · · Score: 1

      Given that it's a feature prominently labeled on the box? I'd sure hope it's higher than 10%. Parents that seriously don't know what they're buying their children are among the worst.

    4. Re:Don't feel sorry for the parents by Rufus+Firefly · · Score: 1

      Typically when giving someone a gift, you don't try it out first before giving it to them; you allow the recipient the opportunity to experience whatever initial setup may be required (even if you have to help them with it).

      Unless they're five. I purchased two DSis *new* this year for my kids, 4.5 and 2.5, and you can bet your ass I pulled them out of the box and tested them and set them up before wrapping them. If you're buying something used from GameStop--or hell, anywhere--you need to make sure it works, otherwise you have some 'splainin to do, like, "why doesn't my new DS work, daddy?"

      The first thing my boy did was find the camera app and start taking pictures. Once the girl got the hang of her hello kitty game I got her, she was gold.

    5. Re:Don't feel sorry for the parents by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Typically when giving someone a gift, you don't try it out first before giving it to them; you allow the recipient the opportunity to experience whatever initial setup may be required (even if you have to help them with it).

      Well, no. Because:

      This 3DS was used,

      When it's used, someone has already done all of that. The unboxing is the special part. Once it's been done, it behooves you to examine the unit to make sure that there's nothing wrong with it, because gamestop sure as shit doesn't care. They don't test most of what they buy adequately before sending it out. Who hasn't got a bad used controller from them, for example? And as for testing systems, all they do is make sure it will read some media.

      but there's a reasonable expectation that it was sold in a "like new" condition

      No, no there isn't. It's used, it's reasonable to expect it to be in used condition.

      the hardware may be worn, but I would expect the software to behave exactly like turning on a brand new unit for the first time.

      Why would you expect that? Firmware updates anyone? You should expect it to behave however it behaves when you turn it on, because it's used and it can be tampered with.

      I don't blame the parents here (although they did choose silly names for their kids).

      Well, I do. They should try parenting. If they don't understand the issues involved in buying a used console, they should buy a new one. Or perhaps they should learn something about the things they are giving their kids before they give it to them and even if they find it uninteresting, like a handheld video game. That's called responsible parenting, and while I understand it is largely a recurring fad, it's still a good idea(tm).

      And I don't really blame the individual employee who allowed this to happen. The root of the problem is GameStop's corporate culture.

      That, anyway, I agree with. They should have a credible test procedure in place. And since they don't, they're probably liable for things like this. They distributed child porn, and they should have known because a responsible test/inspection of the device would have revealed it.

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    6. Re:Don't feel sorry for the parents by Phroggy · · Score: 1

      When it's used, someone has already done all of that. The unboxing is the special part.

      Even if the item is used and the box it came in is not the original from the manufacturer, I would still tend to leave it in whatever box it's in to allow the person I'm giving it to to open.

      Once it's been done, it behooves you to examine the unit to make sure that there's nothing wrong with it, because gamestop sure as shit doesn't care. They don't test most of what they buy adequately before sending it out.

      You know that, and I know that. These parents didn't know that. Any other reputable business would have made sure the item they were selling was in an appropriate condition before selling it.

      Who hasn't got a bad used controller from them, for example?

      Me. I've never gotten a bad used controller from GameStop. Why? Because I don't shop there. I've never bought a used controller there, so I haven't had this personal experience. I'd bet these parents haven't either.

      Why would you expect that? Firmware updates anyone? You should expect it to behave however it behaves when you turn it on, because it's used and it can be tampered with.

      Some electronic devices have an initial setup process. I would expect that when buying a used one from a store, it has been reset to factory defaults so that if there is a setup process, I'll be prompted to go through it the first time I turn it on. Since I don't have a 3DS, I have no idea if it has something like this or not.

      If I bought one from an individual, I would not necessarily expect that they had returned it to factory default settings before selling it to me. I would expect that when buying from a store.

      If they don't understand the issues involved in buying a used console, they should buy a new one.

      And what exactly are "the issues involved in buying a used console"? What would you suggest responsible parents should do to educate themselves about these issues before making a purchasing decision?

      Or perhaps they should learn something about the things they are giving their kids before they give it to them and even if they find it uninteresting, like a handheld video game. That's called responsible parenting, and while I understand it is largely a recurring fad, it's still a good idea(tm).

      They probably did learn something about the 3DS before purchasing it, but what they learned didn't include anything about it being pre-loaded with porn.

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    7. Re:Don't feel sorry for the parents by Phroggy · · Score: 1

      Unless they're five. I purchased two DSis *new* this year for my kids, 4.5 and 2.5, and you can bet your ass I pulled them out of the box and tested them and set them up before wrapping them. If you're buying something used from GameStop--or hell, anywhere--you need to make sure it works, otherwise you have some 'splainin to do, like, "why doesn't my new DS work, daddy?"

      Don't get me wrong, pulling them out of the box and trying it out yourself is a perfectly reasonable thing to do when giving a gift to a 5-year-old. I merely sought to explain that it should also be reasonable not to. If something goes wrong, it's an opportunity to teach your kid how to handle that situation. Whether you deem it an appropriate time to teach your child that particular lesson is of course none of my business.

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  15. Simple odds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Chance of kid getting access a tank? Close to nil.

    Chance of kid getting to play with a Peter or Dolores? Too high.

    1. Re:Simple odds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Chance of kid getting access a tank?

      Kids don't need tanks; they have hands and arms.

      Chance of kid getting to play with a Peter or Dolores? Too high.

      I'm sure they'd never try to have sex if it wasn't for that porn they saw! They'd never try to hurt others because they saw a violent movie, but they would try to simulate porn!

      Yes, odds. These things almost never happen. It is you that needs to take odds into account.

  16. Mrs. Claus must be heartbroken after hearing this. by chronokitsune3233 · · Score: 1

    Poor Mrs. Claus... I guess she just doesn't do it for ol' Saint Nick anymore.

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  17. Forget video games ... by PPH · · Score: 2

    ... buy the kid a Bible instead ....... No, wait. Forget that!

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  18. Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    discovered images of naked people doing less than pristine things

    Sex act by itself is a part of nature.

    Without sex acts, many higher form animals have no way to procreate.

    When sex itself is deemed something that's not "pristine" something is very wrong - way beyond wrong .....

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    1. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well i dunno i've been on the internet a long time and i can tell you most of the stuff i've seen wouldn't result in procreation...especially the stuff involving animals, faeces or huge dildos.

    2. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Killing is a part of nature. Without it, animals would starve. Therefore, when people have a problem with murder, something is very wrong...

      Worst. Argument. Ever.

    3. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Just as natural is the act of guarding the privacy of sex. It reinforces the advantages of the natural practice of monogamy in nature in general. Having sex in front of a camera is not the same as sex itself.

    4. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by froggymana · · Score: 4, Funny

      Killing is a part of nature. Without it, animals would starve. Therefore, when people have a problem with murder, something is very wrong...

      Worst. Argument. Ever.

      While your argument there is bad, I'm not sure I would call it the worst one ever.

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    5. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by pwizard2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Mod++ (if I had the points).

      I swear, there's a bunch of goddamn prudes in this country (yet violence is ok for some reason). Sex is the most natural thing ever and nothing to be ashamed of.

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    6. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by MouseTheLuckyDog · · Score: 4, Funny

      Unless it's with Rosanne Barr or Rosie O'Donnell.

    7. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No it does not, guarding the privacy of sex does not reinforce monogamy which is certainly a natural practice but not the natural practice that humans evolved. Monogamy is an artificial practice in humans, reinforced by religious dogma, originating when hereditary inheritance of property necessitated early human civilization to come up with the only fool proof way of ensuring paternity of children could be known.
      Mans natural state is to beat lesser men into submission and then take as many mates as he can.

    8. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only problem that raises with murder is when people don't eat what they murder, or murder what they eat.

    9. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by arth1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Just as natural is the act of guarding the privacy of sex. It reinforces the advantages of the natural practice of monogamy in nature in general.

      You have never been to the park in spring and seen ducks fuck? Or looked out a city window to see pigeons fuck? They certainly don't hide it.

      And if you're of European descent, neither did your ancestors. The sleeping partition of typical houses was for everyone, both children and adults, and the adults fucked with the children present. It was no more interesting to the kids than watching the farm animals go at it.

      If anything, fucking in front of others strengthens monogamous relationships, because you make your claim on the partner where others of your gender can see it. And that's at least partially why couples kiss in public too.

    10. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You n have never been to Europe then

    11. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If most of the things you've seen involve animals, feces, and huge dildos, I'm thinking this is more a problem with your tastes than of pornography's lack of procreative potential.

    12. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Killing own species isn't very common within animals that reproduce via sex.

    13. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Jawcracker+Fuzz · · Score: 2

      When was goatse not deemed pristine? Are we not men? Is this not /.?

    14. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Ja'Achan · · Score: 0

      Male lions are known to kill the cubs of male lions they killed, so that they can impregnate the female lion, which will then spend her time taking care of his kids, instead of the kids of the now deceased lion.

      Nature gives quite a few reasons for murder, really.

    15. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sex has never seemed particularly "pristine" to me, but that has nothing to do with puritanical values.

      I can't speak for everyone, but spotless, clean, unsullied... I would use none of these words.

    16. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Jessified · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually it's a valid point...I mean if movies depicting gore and senseless killing are merely rated R, but movies depicting sex with genitals and penetration are X-Rated, what does that tell you about our priorities?

      Sex is more traumatizing that decapitation and evisceration, apparently. Think "Saw" vs pretty much any porno, even the lighter stuff.

    17. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by jandersen · · Score: 1

      Sex act by itself is a part of nature.

      Sex, I grant you. But pictures of plasticky looking individuals going through the motions of something that they clearly don't give a shit about? That is clearly not good - sex should be something to look forward to when you are old enough, not something that screams mindless boredom.

    18. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Totally agree with your idea of sex, but how much is pornography related to sex?
      IMHO pornography:sex=tv sports:sports that is, they are related only at the most superficial level.

      People would have better relationships if they first unlearned what pornography seems to push.

    19. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by QQBoss · · Score: 1

      Killing own species isn't very common within animals that reproduce via sex.

      Ethologists say otherwise

      "In animals, infanticide involves the killing of young offspring by a mature animal of its own species, and is studied in zoology, specifically in the field of ethology. Ovicide is the analogous destruction of eggs. Although human infanticide has been widely studied, the practice has been observed in many other species throughout the animal kingdom. These include microscopic rotifers, insects, fish, amphibians, birds and mammals.[1] Infanticide can be practiced by both males and females."

      Not that there's anything wr... errr... acceptable with that.

    20. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I don't really care what you think sex should be. Regardless of your opinion about porn and sex, the prudes who think the children will be traumatized are definitely idiots.

    21. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Dusanyu · · Score: 1

      discovered images of naked people doing less than pristine things

      Sex act by itself is a part of nature.

      Without sex acts, many higher form animals have no way to procreate.

      When sex itself is deemed something that's not "pristine" something is very wrong - way beyond wrong .....

      Depends on the Sex, was this Dr. Naughty and the night nurses porn? Or was this Midget Bondage tentacle Porn? a couple People doing the do is one thing but BDSM, Rape or other types of porn are something else.

    22. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Nocturnal+Deviant · · Score: 1

      Personally I would have rather watched a deception on replay than have seen the horror that is goatse, lemonparty, meatspin, and 2 girls 1 cup and related videos..

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    23. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Nocturnal+Deviant · · Score: 1

      ...decapitation....stupid autocorrect on phone >.

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    24. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Killing is a part of nature. Without it, animals would starve. Therefore, when people have a problem with murder, something is very wrong...

      It's only a problem if you don't eat your kill.

    25. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by TFAFalcon · · Score: 2

      Why compare a fairly basic murder with 'extreme' porn (is that even still porn?)? If we're going for extremes, then I guess a person slowly being flayed for hours, then roasted over an open fire while their children are decapitated in front of them would be the equivalent to 2 girls 1 cup. And I'd pick the 2 girls if I had a choice, thank you very much.

    26. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by war4peace · · Score: 1

      Why compare a fairly basic murder with 'extreme' porn (is that even still porn?)?

      Because only imbalanced comparisons would help his argument, doh!

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    27. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Some people can get off on Saw. It really straddles somewhere between extreme S&M and snuff. So our priorities are extreme S&M/snuff - rated R; normal porn however - rated X.

    28. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by ae1294 · · Score: 1

      Male lions are known to kill the cubs of male lions they killed, so that they can impregnate the female lion, which will then spend her time taking care of his kids, instead of the kids of the now deceased lion.

      I wonder if that works on human women??? anyone???

    29. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah, titties are not for little kids...

      Seriously, though. I don't really get it. An act that is supposed to bring joy and fun is considered worse than an act that supposedly brings grief and pain? Is it me, or is something wrong with this?

      Or, in the immortal words of Mr. Jack Nicholson, "Kiss a pair of titties and the movie's X-Rated. Chop 'em off and it's PG13"

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    30. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Natural practice of monogamy?

      Dude, you should write for stand-ups, others would have to ponder long and hard to come up with a punchline like that.

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    31. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      As long as they don't force me to watch... *shrug*.

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    32. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, this is in the USA.
      Sex is wrong there.
      Had the DS been full of violence-related things, then the reaction would've depended on the contents. But, in the US, "OMG NEKKID PEOPLE" is still the Pavlovian button to press if you want to shut down any reasoning.

    33. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      So? We have no problem doing the same with our violence, which is also very artificial on TV. Hey, actually just because it is artificial and obviously so it is tolerated, if it was "realistic", movies including it would most likely be banned from TV (even past watershed, guns can be awfully messy).

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    34. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I've seen my first porn when I was 8. I knew pretty much what was going on, but my reaction was "if that's sex... I guess I can do without".

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    35. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Considering the image links that are spammed in chats these days I would take goatse and tubgirl any day.
      At least they have some class.

    36. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You want him to kill himself because he's fucking a pedophile? I'd think you'd think that would be a good thing.

    37. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by flyneye · · Score: 1

      I think a review of the definition for "pristine" is in order.
      I must say, I prefer blogs and forums to the outright lies and misdirection of the newsclowns, but the tradeoff.....waitaminute! Newsclowns aren't any better.

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    38. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      discovered images of naked people doing less than pristine things

      Sex act by itself is a part of nature.

      Without sex acts, many higher form animals have no way to procreate.

      When sex itself is deemed something that's not "pristine" something is very wrong - way beyond wrong .....

      +5 Insightful, really?
      By definition "pristine" means "having its original purity", "uncorrupted", "pure" or "unspoiled" (as in what the 3DS should have looked like when sold) and it is used metaphorically to describe people (usually women) who are virgin. So yeah, I really don't see how you can describe people having sex as "pristine".

    39. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by ThePhilips · · Score: 3, Insightful

      When sex itself is deemed something that's not "pristine" something is very wrong - way beyond wrong .....

      And that IMO is the cause of the trauma. Modern parenting including feeding children piles of idealistic crap (too much TV I would say), at best useless for the real life.

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    40. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Hognoxious · · Score: 5, Funny

      my reaction was "if that's sex... I guess I can do without".

      ...and here you are, years later, posting on slashdot.

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    41. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm not sure that what happens in porn can even be considered sex any more.

      Imagine if extraterrestrials had gotten that 3DS full of porn and that's the only thing they knew about humans. They'd think we reproduce by having the man ejaculate up the woman's nose.

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    42. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Why did I know that comment would come...

      The perspective of course changed with times. But I still don't get much out of porn. It's a bit like sports, watching ain't feeling half as good as doing it yourself.

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    43. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by dywolf · · Score: 1

      Who the hell taught you that?
      First off, every animal reproduces via sex by definition. There are a very few that can also do it without.
      Secondly, animals kill each other REGULARLY, within their own species.

      Black widows and Praying mantis kill and eat the male after sex.
      Bullfrogs reguarly eat their own young that they just produced.
      Lions, bears, monkeys and many more will kill the young of their own species.
      Even mice and other rodents will do so.
      Chimpanzee tribes (and other social monkees such as baboons) will make raids and wage actual war on other tribes.
      Elk, bison, similar animals, have been known to kill each other in mating season.
      Even whales have been known to kill each other in the quest of a mate, bodyslamming each other into submission.

      You're about as ignorant as the girl vet in family guy.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7QhpJ3DWDA

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    44. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by dywolf · · Score: 1

      I guess emotions and devotion and attachment are all artificial constructs too. That's a load of crap. Both states are natural to the human species. The defining characteristic is the social structure of the tribe the individuals live within.

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    45. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong character. She's a pet shop owner. Your entire argument is thus invalidated.

    46. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by GrumpySteen · · Score: 0

      First off, every animal reproduces via sex by definition. There are a very few that can also do it without.

      Either every animal reproduces via sex or some animals do not reproduce via sex. Both cannot be true.

      One of your sentences is obviously a lie. If you're going to lie to try and make your point, at least put a little effort into it and try to not highlight the fact that you just told a lie.

    47. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Walter+White · · Score: 1

      Seriously, though. I don't really get it. An act that is supposed to bring joy and fun is considered worse than an act that supposedly brings grief and pain? Is it me, or is something wrong with this?

      Remember, the Puritans came to what would become the USA in order to practice their religious beliefs.

    48. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod++ (if I had the points).

      I swear, there's a bunch of goddamn prudes in this country (yet violence is ok for some reason). Sex is the most natural thing ever and nothing to be ashamed of.

      What makes you think violence isn't natural, and ok?

    49. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not if he's an 8-year-old it isn't.

    50. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Killing own species isn't very common within animals that reproduce via sex.

      If by "not very common" you meant "happens all the time"... then yes.

    51. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by X0563511 · · Score: 2

      Wrong. Some animals (basic "animals" - nematodes or something) can reproduce asexually in the absence of sexual reproduction.

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    52. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      You both have a point, but I'd like to point out that emotions, devotion, and attachment are not restricted to monogamy.

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    53. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If your porn looks like that, you need to throw it out and look harder. There's no reason it has to look so fake.

    54. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by fustakrakich · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I wonder if that works on human women??? anyone???

      Yes, during/after a war the conquerors kill the children, usually the males, and impregnate the women. It seems the natural thing to do. I don't know how that works now that we use use drones. Send in a 'cleanup' crew?

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    55. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      SO is death. . . and War.

      You're argument is the naturalistic fallacy.

      There is a wide difference between two people doing it missionary posting, and someone strung up by there nipples being beaten by a masked individual as someone masturbating in the background.

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    56. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're just telling us that you watch very weird porn. I understand; The Internet does that to some people.

      Captcha: Pricks

    57. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by geekoid · · Score: 2

      yes, it's the autocorrect that's stupid.

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    58. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't call it a lie. Logically incorrect, yes. But his point is still valid.
      Animal fight among their own species.

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    59. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      Control of sex is nothing more than the alpha male asserting his authority. Religion/"morality" is just one of the methods used.

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    60. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what you are saying is that an 8-year old should go and kill herself after she had sex with a pedophile?

    61. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by geekoid · · Score: 1, Funny

      Monogamy is older then religion.

      "Mans natural state is to beat lesser men into submission and then take as many mates as he can."
      As it turns out, that may not be true.
      Not doing that may have been a critical pressure increasing the odds of our evolutionary dominance.

      Non monogamous society lead to genetic defects, disease and lower IQs.
      Not to be confuse with society's where A person inst monogamous.

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    62. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      While I agree to a point as somebody who has raised two kids there are certain things you don't want a little kid exposed to, hell as an adult I wish I could have some brain bleach to remove some of the things I have seen (two girls anyone?) but more to the point the problem here is NOT the porn, its the fact that these companies are just taking trade ins and throwing them in a box and calling them refurbs when they are not.

      I sell plenty of refurbs in the shop and I would never EVER even think about putting out a system that hadn't been wiped and reloaded, its just a sign of piss poor store policy to allow such a thing to even happen. If its a system with a restore partition I will zero out the user partition before restoring and if not I'm zeroing out the entire drive, but there really is no excuse to leaving shit on a refurb. What if it had been infected with malware? I haven't messed with hand helds in years so I don't know if they make a cable to plug into a PC or not but I have seen plenty of devices, both "refurb" and even those listed as "new" that customers have picked up to find they are full of malware and other nasties. I once had to clean all the computers in a church because one of the volunteers picked up a "new" backup drive at Worst Buy and not only was it full of porn but it was also infected by a clickjacker bug that spread like wildfire through their network and they were getting porn popups by the hundreds.

      So there really is no excuse, whether the device is supposed to be for a 5 year old or a 50 year old it should have been restored to factory state before being sold, and I really can't blame a parent for being upset about finding porn on a little kid's Xmas present. Remember thanks to the Internet there is no telling what kind of porn was on the thing,and while I wouldn't be thrilled that somebody left straight porn for my 5 year old to find that is a hell of a lot different than something like two girls or beast porn or any of the other sick shit you find on the net.

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    63. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by fatphil · · Score: 3, Funny

      I for one religiously avoid ejaculating up my girlfriend's nose, and we've avoided pregnancy, or even scares. So there must be some truth to it!

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    64. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by operagost · · Score: 1

      And the first European settlers in Australia were criminals; therefore, all of Australian society is based on crime.

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    65. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by operagost · · Score: 1

      The claim that monogamy in humans is not "natural" is not a proven one. After all, some other species (like swans, gibbons, and wolves) are monogamous.

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    66. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by fatphil · · Score: 1

      Want remote control? Tada - wedding rings.

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    67. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by fatphil · · Score: 2

      All part of a good rape and pillage.

      Having said that, if you rewind the clock a century and you're Turkish, then kidnapping the young children, brainwashing them into believing the enemy until they're fighting age, and then sending them, unbeknownst to them, back into their homeland in order to kill their own kin is a viable alternative. (a) you don't have to do all that messy and life-risking child-birthing phase; and (b) who gives a fuck if they die in battle, they were Greek anyway.

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    68. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Well, Butters really seems to be enjoying his new Nintendo 3DS game!"

      "My precious!"

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    69. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by s0nicfreak · · Score: 1

      Actually, most animals DO naturally have a problem with murdering their own species (except when attacked) - and only their own species. Humans are no different - we murder other animals to eat by the thousands, and call people that have a problem with this crazy.

    70. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by s0nicfreak · · Score: 1

      Well the thing is that when a female is nursing young, she will not become fertile. Since most humans in the US don't breastfeed anymore, nor take care of their children (and instead send them to daycares or schools all day) it isn't really necessary to kill the babies/children they already have - they will be fertile already and additional children will take little to no additional effort.

    71. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by flayzernax · · Score: 1

      Yet we justify war, capitol punishment, self defense, euthanisation, assisted suicide, donner party cannabilism. Not all of us, all at once. But there are levels to everything. Killing by itself is not evil. Its the why, how, where, when. Or context.

    72. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Jawnn · · Score: 2

      You're already at 5, or I'd spend a point on this. Alas, our Puritan heritage still pervades our national psyche and renders pretty much anything other than heterosexual, missionary position coitus, between to people of the same race, with the intent of making a baby, as dirty and sinful. Not dirty and sinful enough to not do, mind you, but definitely dirty and sinful enough to fell guilty about, and to publicly decry those who admit to other acts as "perverts", of course. But movies and video games that show, in full HD detail, the violent destruction of human bodies, naughty parts and all, that's not a problem. I will never understand it, but there it is.

    73. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What you listed are not porn, just "shock videos" they fall somewhere between porn and creepy Saw Films. Their not intended to be erotic. Context context context....

    74. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what I said last night, to your mother!

    75. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Either every animal reproduces via sex or some animals do not reproduce via sex. Both cannot be true. One of your sentences is obviously a lie.

      So errors are "lies" now? Pedantry and flamebait all in one, I like it!

    76. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Both of whom probably have a hell of a lot more fans than you do, in any locale. You should count your blessings that ugly people are also allowed to have sex.

    77. Re: Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by YeeHaW_Jelte · · Score: 1

      Even the description you just gave made me really really sick

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    78. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by g0bshiTe · · Score: 1

      Blame the puritan settlers. It seems we are about the only country that is still so taboo on sex.

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    79. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by g0bshiTe · · Score: 2

      Tubgirl, how can you forget tubgirl!

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    80. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by g0bshiTe · · Score: 1

      That explains their stance on violent video game content.

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    81. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by g0bshiTe · · Score: 2

      Yarp we sure do condone Donner party cannibalism, I mean what with them asking permission first and all.

      As for self defense well to each his own, if you are happy to let some whackjob hack up your family while you sit and do nothing then that is fine. Euthanasia and assisted suicide, well we put animals to sleep why not people, and assisted suicide, if the victim is the one wanting to die and the only one physically hurt what's the harm? This isn't the dark ages anymore.

      While you're at it why don't you lump in leukemia and cancer treatments in there, I mean they only delay the inevitable right?

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    82. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by g0bshiTe · · Score: 1

      We send in robotic dildos along with the drones, duh!

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    83. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by g0bshiTe · · Score: 2

      Flatworms reproduce either sexually or asexually.

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    84. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by g0bshiTe · · Score: 1

      So then Jeffery Dahmer had it right.

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    85. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not doing that may have been a critical pressure increasing the odds of our evolutionary dominance.

      Non monogamous society lead to genetic defects, disease and lower IQs.

      You are worng and you suck. Such society would be formed of small tribes with marauding young male that take out and replace ageing male of other tribes. eg: See the genetically defected and low IQ lions for proof. Stop talking about 'evolution', you clearly don't understand what evolution is about or how does it work. Fuck off.

    86. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by BronsCon · · Score: 1

      To some (a surprising number, actually), that ring is an announcement of challenge. "Go ahead, make your move. Even better for you, I'm not around to do anything about it."

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    87. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by rmdingler · · Score: 1

      Or? Set the bar a bit higher Buster.....And

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    88. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Radak · · Score: 1

      Sex is neither pristine nor not pristine. You've simply run into another case of a Slashdot submitter writing much more poorly than he thinks he does and attempting to use as much flowery language as he can in a vain attempt to sound like a clever author.

    89. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by cavebison · · Score: 2

      An act that is supposed to bring joy and fun is considered worse than an act that supposedly brings grief and pain?

      Spread sexual imagery everywhere and you risk devaluing the act of lovemaking. I'm not being a wowser here, it is already being shown that many kids now think pubic hair is "gross" and boys want their first sexual experience to be like in porn movies.

      I'm not against porn. But porn is what it is - it's actors playing up to fantasies of the paying customer. It's never been an accurate representation of what loving sex in a normal relationship is all about. Yes, you can do all those things with your partner, but not when you're a kid just because you see actors doing anal all the time in videos. That's not a good introduction to sharing the experience of sex with a girl. It's not a good message to send to girls that their pubic hair is somehow undesirable and they should expect sex to be all about what they can do physically for a guy.

    90. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by cavebison · · Score: 1

      If anything, fucking in front of others strengthens monogamous relationships, because you make your claim on the partner

      If you think relationships are about making a claim on your partner, that's unfortunate.

      The privacy of sex is something we do simply to keep it "special". We don't want to make sex humdrum and run-of-the-mill, because we still (some of us) do it as an expression of love and intimacy.

    91. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem is not sex itself, idiot.

      The problem is that if a child of 5 years sees a sex scene he will get too much curious about sex in a age that he cant make sex and deal with the consequences of sex...

      Something tells me you are a paedophile....

    92. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by nobodie · · Score: 1

      The most true part of what happened however was that the 5 year old was completely uninterested in the "weird things" that the people were doing. I've raised 6 kids and at age five they really are not interested in sex. Later, yes, very interested, later than that, ver, very, very interested. By my age, obsessed, but forget about the 5 year olds, we need to protect the middle-aged to older guys from these disturbing images! Please!

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    93. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      Memo to self : re-set Slashdot's mail to use my goatse.cx email account.

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    94. Re:Why sex is deemed not "pristine"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So it was your 3DS, eh?

  19. Human sentimentality. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    An interest in sex implies a lack of winsome purity and innocence. Parents do not want their kids to grow up and lose that, ever. And while they know they can't prevent it, this specific interest really throws the issue in their faces, so they have huge emotional reactions against it.

    Kids are violent from the moment they are born. An interest in anything violence-related does not carry this same implication of corrupted adulthood.

    None of this makes sense logically, of course, but the parts of the brain having these responses are pure emotion. As such, they are both far more determinative of human behavior, and far more dangerous, than logic can ever be.

    1. Re:Human sentimentality. by arth1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Kids are violent from the moment they are born.

      They're also sexual from the moment they are born. Not to the same extent as when hitting puberty, but certainly not asexual cherubs.
      Some repress and deny that they themselves were sexual creatures even as children, quite possibly out of guilt, thinking it was themselves there was something wrong with.

      But pictures of grown-ups? Largely uninteresting to a five year old boy, I should think. To him, it would be a lemon party - something to say "yuck" at and delete.
      Which apparently he tried to do, and it was his father who blew a fuse, not the kid. Sure, the kid is probably traumatized now, by his father's behavior.
      And unless he changes his name, likely to be ridiculed in a few years in school, when classmates enter his name in a search engine. All thanks to dad, who wanted his fifteen minutes of fame, but apparently didn't give a flying fuck about causing his kids problems.

    2. Re:Human sentimentality. by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Don't worry, he'll blame the porn for the problems. After all, if there hadn't been porn on that device, none of this would have happened.

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  20. GameStop... by scottnix · · Score: 3, Funny

    Put the X *sun glasses* in X-mas Yeaaaahhhhhh!!

    1. Re:GameStop... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Put the X *sun glasses* in X-mas Yeaaaahhhhhh!!

      Surely that should be the "XXX" in "XXX-mmmmm..... ass"?

  21. The Dad is an idiot by BitZtream · · Score: 3, Interesting

    While I would be pissed if this happened to me as well, lets look at a quote from the full article:

    "You can't un-see this. He's five years old. Maybe when he's 18 or 20 maybe he won't know anything about it but he's not going to forget about it tomorrow,"

    I'll bet a months pay that unless someone reminds him, he won't remember it in a week. He might not forget it tomorrow, but in a week he'll be long past it. By the time next christmas comes around he won't remember a thing that happened this christmas unless you bring it up to him and point it out, if you ask him what he got for christmas last year he'd probably have to put serious effort into thinking about it. His mind has far more important things to worry about ... like being a fucking 5 year old and playing video games themselves or playing with his friends/toys.

    On that same note however, when he's 18 or 20, he probably WILL remember it and picture it in his quest to satisfy himself when he can't get a date or some else to do it. Of course, at that point he'll be looking at any sexually arousing thing on the planet and wanting to bone its brains out so its really stupid to care.

    This guy is just trying to blow it out of proportion to extort some money from GameStop. Fucking leech.

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    1. Re:The Dad is an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      His mind has far more important things to worry about ... like being a fucking 5 year old

      He saw some porn at X-mas and he's already a fucking 5 year old?

      Kids grow up so fast these days...

      and playing video games themselves or playing with his friends/toys.

      Well, as long as he isn't playing with himself...

    2. Re:The Dad is an idiot by SleazyRidr · · Score: 1

      I'm not so sure about that... my kid is constantly surprising me when she brings up something that happened months ago. I thought nothing of it at the time, but she's obviously been thinking about it and finally decided to ask about it.

  22. Talking snakes and rib women by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 5, Funny

    Someone care to do a cultural translation for an european why its okay for kids to play with tanks and guns(both seen in TFA video) yet them seeing naked people is like your kids life is ruined?

    Because the universe was created by an all-powerful all-knowing being who came down to us in the form of a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father who can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master.

    He can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.

    He has defined a category of behaviours which are biologically imperative but which we should not do, lest he judge us unworthy in his eyes and stick us in his personal torture chamber for all eternity.

    Showing naked people to children encourages them to have sex in ways which are not permitted, which will get them sent to the eternal torture chamber.

    Does this answer your question?

    1. Re:Talking snakes and rib women by arth1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      He has defined a category of behaviours which are biologically imperative but which we should not do, lest he judge us unworthy in his eyes and stick us in his personal torture chamber for all eternity.

      You forgot "but he loves us!"
      And he needs money.

    2. Re:Talking snakes and rib women by marcello_dl · · Score: 1

      Nice to know you have the "biological imperative" to kill steal and go with someone other's wife... but I am digressing.

      The problem is that killing is frowned upon by the same religion, so I don't see how showing a gun can be tolerated more than showing a penis.

      "The gun is good the penis is bad" is another religion.

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    3. Re:Talking snakes and rib women by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Nice to know you have the "biological imperative" to kill steal and go with someone other's wife... but I am digressing.

      No, you're douching. We all have those imperatives. Anyone whose ancestors didn't have them to pass on was never born. Some of us were trained to ignore them.

      The problem is that killing is frowned upon by the same religion, so I don't see how showing a gun can be tolerated more than showing a penis.

      No, no it really isn't. More killing has been done in the name of that religion than perhaps any other cause besides "we wanted their land". There are a handful of examples of Yahweh-ordered massacres in the bible. You really believe that Christianity condemns killing because of the ten commandments? It says don't kill people once or twice, and it gives all the cases in which God said go ahead and kill them all and they are notable and somewhat numerous.

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    4. Re:Talking snakes and rib women by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you seriously implying that (a) only Christians are good people, (b) Christians are only good people because of their beliefs, (c) no Christians are bad, all are good, and (d) being sarcastic renders you unable to do good? That's simultaneously offensive and dumb as hell.

    5. Re:Talking snakes and rib women by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      How many people on earth WOULD curse God for crusades, witch hunts ostracism and hatred ... if they still lived to do it?
      How many Heinrich Kramers has it inspired to incite hysteria? How many people have been burned, tortured or otherwise killed by people of your belief?
      How many Bernardino of Sienas have been working towards pain and suffering in his name, due to thinking THEY know better than some guy (who was actually a pretty cool dude, btw, don't get me wrong) who lived 2000 years ago?

      I don't deny that the life of Jesus has inspired people to do some good, but the whole organization behind it has inspired far more people to do evil. In total, I'd say the world had been better off without.

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    6. Re:Talking snakes and rib women by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      One should probably admit that a fair lot of that killing in the name of $deity was just trying to find some excuse to want their land without looking greedy.

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    7. Re:Talking snakes and rib women by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By not specifically citing the fact that you are referring to George Carlin you are violating THOU SHALT NOT STEAL and will burn for eternity along side him, Hitler, and Steve Jobs.

    8. Re:Talking snakes and rib women by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      RIP George Carlin

    9. Re:Talking snakes and rib women by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      One should probably admit that a fair lot of that killing in the name of $deity was just trying to find some excuse to want their land without looking greedy.

      Sure, I agree with that. But the notion that the religion is anti-violence is hilarious. Those in charge of the various branches of it don't shy from using violence when it seems expedient.

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    10. Re:Talking snakes and rib women by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice to know you have the "biological imperative" to kill steal and go with someone other's wife... but I am digressing.

      Nice to know you consider the female to be your property. If she chooses to go with someone else, will you resort to violence? I think we know the answer to that question already.

    11. Re:Talking snakes and rib women by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      True. It wasn't meant as an apology, I'm merely playing devil's advocate (no pun intended).

      As I said a few comments above (or was it below?), when comparing the good and the bad things religion caused, mankind would have been better off without when looking at the totals.

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    12. Re:Talking snakes and rib women by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, it is often a quite useful delusion.

    13. Re:Talking snakes and rib women by SolitaryMan · · Score: 1

      Some parts of Bible specifically say that people guilty of "sex crimes" like cheating on a spouse must be killed, so apparently Bible God is more OK with murder than with "free love".

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    14. Re:Talking snakes and rib women by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The bible says thou shalt not MURDER. Killing is acceptable and even encouraged, providing for certain parameters.
      Like if the person is a witch, or adulterer, or a myriad of other 'bad' things.

    15. Re:Talking snakes and rib women by Arclight17 · · Score: 1

      oops, forgot I wasn't logged in...

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    16. Re:Talking snakes and rib women by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Being done "in the name of the diety" is not the diety's doing. Humans are human, and an evil man will use whatever he can against you, even your religion. Like Coffey said in "The Green Mile", "He kill dem wit dey love." I don't for a minute believe that Bin laden believed in Allah, he used the faithful for his own greedy ends.

      As to "God said go ahead and kill them all", that's the old testament -- the Jewish bible. The Christian bible starts with the book of Matthew, everything before is just a prefix that explains what it's all about.

    17. Re:Talking snakes and rib women by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't for a minute believe that Bin laden believed in Allah,

      Oh, right. He wasn't a True Believer!

      The Christian bible starts with the book of Matthew, everything before is just a prefix that explains what it's all about.

      And supposedly everything that Christian's don't like about the new testament is just a metaphor. Looks like they might need to make a new new testament to fix everything they don't like.

    18. Re:Talking snakes and rib women by marcello_dl · · Score: 1

      > No, you're douching. We all have those imperatives

      No way any human and animal societies could form if we had them, no matter if they originated instinctually or culturally. Maybe we disagree on the meaning of "imperative".

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    19. Re:Talking snakes and rib women by marcello_dl · · Score: 1

      I forgot to comment on the yahweh ordered massacres.

      The "no kill" and "no adultery" are in the same set of rules, which are reportedly the only ones coming directly from the God and that settles my point.

      If you want to go OT and discuss the right of a God to tell you to not kill in general but orders you to kill in some occasions, simply accept that by being God he has that right, and that such thing poses no problems as long as you treat it as any other event. Let me explain.

      From whose authority did the kill orders came? the God.
      From whose authority comes the thou shalt not kill? the God.

      The first can override the other depending on circumstances. Like all orders can be overridden by the same authority who issues them in all societies and organizations.

      At this moment, usually people go up in arms and say OH BUT THEN YOU CONDONE EVERY KIND OF MURDERING AS LONG AS THE PERPETRATOR THINKS HE IS WORKING FOR GOD YOU TERRORIST OH GOD OH GOD OH WAIT

      Nope. A murderer is a murderer and must be treated as such no matter what, even by those who share his religion. And this is the MOST OBVIOUS reaction.
      To be left alone, in fact, a god driven murderer should

      1- live in a theocracy. God may forgive you, still you have to give back to Caesar, there are human laws to obey.
      2- Or, on trial be able to prove that: he received an unmistakable order from an entity and prove that entity as the only, all powerful, God of the Bible.

      This is practically and theoretically impossible. Get a grip.
      You treat the murderer as murderer and if the same God who ordered you to kill wants to save you he will, in his own ways. Problem, atheists? Problem, believers?

      The problem is when people think they do God's orders, or pretend they do God's orders. THEN, I agree, following blindly a religion becomes a problem. Of the follower, not of the religion itself. I can find mathematically sound excuses to shave off billions of people from this planet in the name of long term survivability. Is Math evil then? Athyisst pls.

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    20. Re:Talking snakes and rib women by volmtech · · Score: 1

      I find it curious that the group responsible for starting all this foolishness is still in existence, despite past and present attempts to eradicate them. In fact they flourish and are probably the richest group on Earth. It's like some supernatural force is protecting them.

    21. Re:Talking snakes and rib women by dywolf · · Score: 1

      Because christianity isnt the predominant religion in europe at all. no theyre all in the US and the US only. no where else. in the world.

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    22. Re:Talking snakes and rib women by Maritz · · Score: 1

      I don't deny that the life of Jesus has inspired people to do some good, but the whole organization behind it has inspired far more people to do evil. In total, I'd say the world had been better off without.

      I suspect (though this is unprovable I imagine) that there's a lot of historical contingency involved in the growth and spread of religions. I'm inclined to think that if Christianity hadn't chanced along when it did, something else would have. How different it would be - who knows. But I suspect it too would leave a world that would've been better off without it... ;)

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  23. Classic by Microsift · · Score: 1

    I bought a refurbished Wii from GameStop, still had the previous owner's saved games, Netflix account (which works by the way), credits on the Nintendo store. They made no effort to clean the system whatsoever.

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    1. Re:Classic by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      MMM, companies using the term "refurbished" when they have done little more than give the item a quick clean and a very brief test (if that) seems to be an endemic problem.

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  24. Gamestop Fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I process returns at a retail store, this situation happened at the location I work at. It was with a digital camera instead of a 3ds, but otherwise the same. The parent complained, and a new policy was set of sending all returned electronics with internal memory back to the manufacturer for a reset. You can't expect someone working at minimum wage to know how to operate every electronic device the store sells, and how to do the factory reset (if it even has such a function). Many of the units are uncharged, which requires charging the battery beforehand in order to wipe it.

    TBH I saw this coming a mile away when I first heard of the DSi having a camera. I'm just waiting for the case of a refurbished 3ds with pics a teenager took of themselves nude.

    1. Re:Gamestop Fail by Lucky_Norseman · · Score: 1

      TBH I saw this coming a mile away when I first heard of the DSi having a camera. I'm just waiting for the case of a refurbished 3ds with pics a teenager took of themselves nude.

      But if you buy a refurbished 3DS with pics of a teenager, doesn't that make you guilty of both possession and purchase of kiddie-porn?
      Go directly to the sex offender list, do not pass go, do not collect $200

    2. Re:Gamestop Fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if you buy a refurbished 3DS with pics of a teenager, doesn't that make you guilty of both possession and purchase of kiddie-porn?

      I do believe the internet has, um... one or two pornographic sites featuring 18 and 19 year olds...

  25. Damn criminals.... by TheBrando · · Score: 1

    Maybe people should quit stealing shit......

  26. Refurbished price by StealthSock · · Score: 1

    Who buys a refurbished 3DS over a new one these days? The Gamestop price on a used one is currently $159.99 while they sell new ones for $169.99.

    1. Re:Refurbished price by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe they bought it in the store, for considerably less? Local stores often have prices and sales well below the list price for used equipment.

    2. Re:Refurbished price by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you have to buy for the porn too, if you are going to be fully legal.

    3. Re:Refurbished price by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Maybe they bought it in the store, for considerably less? Local stores often have prices and sales well below the list price for used equipment.

      No, they don't. Gamestop is the corporate master and systems never go on sale unless Gamestop says so. They can discount accessories to get them out of the store, though. Thank you, please don't try again, coward.

      --
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  27. Um... this is news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Been there, done that. PSPs have been sold more than once in that condition. DS/DSi as well.

    1. Re:Um... this is news? by arth1 · · Score: 1

      Been there, done that. PSPs have been sold more than once in that condition.

      More than once? I would have thought that the pictures would be wiped when the first new owner finds them?

      Also, isn't it misleading advertising? If you haven't refurbished it, it's used, not refurbished. The two terms are not interchangeable.

      Anyhow, we don't know what happened (or didn't) in this case. We only have this guy's claim to go by, and like TFA, I need a little more convincing, before I believe all of unlikely actions leading to this:
      1: The previous owner did not delete the porn.
      2: The store did not delete the porn.
      3: The buyer did not check the previously owned device before giving it as a gift.
      4: The pictures weren't deleted by the boys, who instead called attention to it.
      5: The guy went to the press.

      Too many required steps in this hypothesis for my liking. Unless corroborated, I would say it's just as likely that:
      6: The guy is lying.

      In either case, it's a non-story. Just reset the device to factory condition..

    2. Re:Um... this is news? by RogueyWon · · Score: 1

      How do you sell a PSP in that condition? Or do you mean that a PSP has been sold along with a memory stick containing the images?

      Storage for images etc on the PSP is all via removable memory sticks. The type of memory stick used (the pro duo if I recall, though I traded in my PSP when I bought a Vita, so can't check for sure) isn't even a PSP-only device... I've used them with PCs as well.

    3. Re:Um... this is news? by hurfy · · Score: 1

      Screw the porn.....

      Just go with the false advertising claim. Might want to have kept the evidence tho as it was obviously not recond/refurb. That implies value-added by the store which was not present.

      I would not expect to have to check a recond/refurb device. It should behave as new for the most part except for cosmetic damage. I wouldn't expect to get treated so well with no proof either, maybe they know what their recondioning is worth.

  28. My daughter STILL remembers the PC... by mykepredko · · Score: 2

    My daughter, who has a hearing defect, was prescribed a listening program that only worked on - Windows 95.

    This was in the early days of Windows XP, so finding a Windows 95 machine (or a set of disks) was somewhat hard.

    I did manage to find one at a local electronics consignment store which claimed to have gone through and sanitized the system from the previous owner.

    My seven year old daughter looked at the "Videos" folder and found somebody's collection of something that we could only described as "Jamacian Dungeon Porn". To use the vernacular of the article, these videos were not "pristine" and really quite disturbing.

    She was pretty freaked out by them at the time and, ten years later, she still says she remembers the screams although she can't remember what was on the videos.

    As for the store caring? We got the impression they were most upset at the idea we didn't save a copy of the videos for them.

    I'm sure our story (and the one in the article) are pretty rare, but I can see the probability of something like this with "reconditioned" equipment is no where near approaching zero.

    myke

    1. Re:My daughter STILL remembers the PC... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      somebody's collection of something that we could only described as "Jamacian Dungeon Porn

      You...uh...wouldn't happen to uh....do you still have some?

    2. Re:My daughter STILL remembers the PC... by isorox · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And the fact you didn't check the computer over before giving it to you daughter wasn't a problem?

    3. Re:My daughter STILL remembers the PC... by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And the fact you didn't check the computer over before giving it to you daughter wasn't a problem?

      This is the part I don't get. What ever happened to parenting? Trusting gamestop or similar is like trusting Microsoft, why would you?

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    4. Re:My daughter STILL remembers the PC... by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Informative

      Because the computer replaced TV as the babysitter, and, dammit, I want my computer to be as good as TV, where SOMEONE ELSE takes care that my kids don't get to see stuff.

      Shit, really, what's next? Me having to spend time with the brats?

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    5. Re:My daughter STILL remembers the PC... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lawsuits?

    6. Re:My daughter STILL remembers the PC... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don' be such a prude, mon.

    7. Re:My daughter STILL remembers the PC... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whats next is that the FCC will start regulating game consoles.

    8. Re:My daughter STILL remembers the PC... by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      You know, it's funny... it's not like this is any different than how it used to be.

      Before TV it was "go work in the fields" or "go work in the factory" before labor laws.

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    9. Re:My daughter STILL remembers the PC... by mykepredko · · Score: 1

      Fair comment and I did learn from it.

      Back to isorox, drinkypoo and Opportunist - what kind of process do you go through when you get reconditioned computer equipment?

      myke

    10. Re:My daughter STILL remembers the PC... by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Shit, really, what's next? Me having to spend time with the brats?

      The Ramones have the answer for you (see track two).

    11. Re:My daughter STILL remembers the PC... by isorox · · Score: 1

      Fair comment and I did learn from it.

      Back to isorox, drinkypoo and Opportunist - what kind of process do you go through when you get reconditioned computer equipment?

      myke

      Same as when I buy a new computer. Install an OS from scratch, which (at least for my OS) wipes the disk enough -- no need to go all writing zeros over the disk, just a quick remake of the partition table and mkfs.

    12. Re:My daughter STILL remembers the PC... by mykepredko · · Score: 1

      I would normally do that as well BUT that wasn't an option because the theraputic software only worked on Windows 95 and I could not find a set of CDs and a license I could use for that.

      myke

    13. Re:My daughter STILL remembers the PC... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must not be in IT (at least I hope you're not), as the first thing any self-respecting nerd would do is format the computer and re-install from scratch. Unless you didn't get the discs with the system to do the re-install in which case you apparently don't know much about the Internet and it's bountiful resources, either.

    14. Re:My daughter STILL remembers the PC... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      found somebody's collection of something that we could only described as "Jamacian Dungeon Porn".

      Please tell me you saved that.

    15. Re:My daughter STILL remembers the PC... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly, I check out every device new and used before I give them to my kids, for stability purposes mainly and to make sure everything works. As a parent you need to know where the pictures folder is, Internet history, how to turn on safe searching if available. Then after giving it to your children you need to check them over again, this time to see what they have been doing with it. Most parents either don't know, don't care enough about, or forget that most devices these days access the internet... Most parents give their children Administrative rights, which the children then proceed to download porn, unrecognized applications, viruses, Trojans, and then these parents put their credit card and personal information into these machines... Dumbasses!!

    16. Re:My daughter STILL remembers the PC... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right, my girlfriend and her whole family are that way, they all have the latest and greatest devices, yes they all went and got iPhone5's the day they came out and the iPad minis, but none of them knows how to use them or knows the difference between a good device and a bad one... Her son has downloaded a multitude of viruses and Trojans to his laptop, my girlfriend gets all kinds of mysterious credit card statements from in app purchases. She tells her son to stop, and he keeps doing it. Does she take the credit card info off of his device? NO!! and educating them about it feels like a waste of time, I have fixed their devices on more than one occassion and they don't learn from their mistakes. Sad thing is that the majority of people that make up sales for these devices are people like my girlfriend and her family. Hence WIndows8...

  29. #WindowsRage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WindowsRage

  30. Re:Why did the moron parents have to publicize thi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hate them so much, they're the answer to any question involving kids with new age bullshit names like Bryton and Braydon.

  31. Nintendo 36DD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    10.36.24.36

  32. No problem. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i saw porn when i was seven and I've had no problems.

    Though, me and my sister decided we`ll wait until our kids are 14 before we let them do the same

  33. pffff... by SuperDre · · Score: 1

    ohno, there are some pictures of naked people doing some nasty stuff on a pre-owned 3DS.. oh yeah, blame it on the shop and put it on the news so you can have your 15-minutes of fame.. I'm sorry but this is just ridiculous that such a thing becomes 'world'news.. Why didn't the parents who bought the used 3ds check it themselves if it worked before giving it to the child, they knew they were buying a used 3ds..
    Yes it might be the shop's responsibility of 'cleaning' the pre-owned device, but is it really? do they claim they wiped the device? all they need to do is check if the device is working properly.. To me this is just blowing everyting out of proportions.. pffff.. making a fuzz about some pre-owned 3DS with some porn on it while they give other children weapons.. Next time please make sure it's actually something to write about...

  34. Sex vs. Violence by h4nk · · Score: 1

    Seeing Robocop at like 11 years old freaked me out more than any playboy or penthouse mags ever did.

    1. Re:Sex vs. Violence by Shados · · Score: 1

      Alien 2 was it for me. I had seen pretty much everything there was to see, sex wise, by the time i was 9, starting when I was 7, without my parents knowing (some of my friends were stealing some pretty hardcore VHS tapes from their parents when they were out and the baby sitters left early...). That wasn't a big deal.

      Alien 2 though, I saw on cable TV when I was...I think 9 or 10. That freaked me out for years. Obviously both kinds of movies are not rated for young kids, but the later no one had issues with me watching, while the former...oh boy! (That wasn't even in the US btw)

  35. Welcoming our newest member! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Utilizing the Basement sender 3ds1000, geeks can be prepped to be womenless and confined to their basements even earlier.

    World domination is imminent

  36. Re:Why did the moron parents have to publicize thi by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    I guess you cannot expect them to use some Brayn.

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  37. Re:Why did the moron parents have to publicize thi by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Relax, 10 years ago it was Kevin and in 10 years you'll have a lot of Justins running around.

    And it won't change 'til parents stop naming their rugrats after the current pop star du jour.

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  38. Re:Why did the moron parents have to publicize thi by Ol+Biscuitbarrel · · Score: 1

    Popularity Trends for the names Bryton and Braydon. Bill Clinton: "I did not give rise to a generation of absolutely insufferable drips. OK, maybe I did."

  39. Proof by Tom · · Score: 2

    Just another proof of what people with brains have been saying for years: The whole "think of the chiiiildren" agenda is stupid. Kids don't get traumatized by porn, they simply don't care about it. Older kids are where it gets interesting. Young kids? Disney is a ton more important to them than weird pictures of naked adults doing weird stuff.

    Like in TFA, it's the adults freaking out, not the kids. Maybe we should change the meme to "think of the paaarents".

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    1. Re:Proof by geekoid · · Score: 1

      " The whole "think of the chiiiildren" agenda is stupid."
      False. Using that as the reason in and of itself is incorrect.

      Children can be traumatized, and it appears years later.

      Of course, to really have a discussion we need to define some parameters for our discussion of porn.
      Is it playboy? is it violent? degrading? All these our important factors.

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    2. Re:Proof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Children can be traumatized, and it appears years later.

      But the likelihood of them being traumatized by porn is almost zero. No, he's right; these "think of the children" prudes need to go get stuffed.

    3. Re:Proof by Tom · · Score: 1

      Children can be traumatized, and it appears years later.

      True, but what causes trauma?

      Children who are abused or lose their parents early in life certainly get a trauma.

      Porn? Show me evidence. Because quite frankly, given the history of mankind, if that were true than 90% of human history the entire race was traumatised. Until the late middle ages only the very rich had more than one sleeping room for the entire (expanded!) family.

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  40. Least of their worries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The two kids' names are Bryton and Braydon and they live in Colorado with parents who don't examine electronics before handing them over to their children. Frankly, finding porn (even disturbing porn) is likely to be the least of these kids' worries in life.

  41. Aww hey.. by malkavian · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I saw porn as a kid initially because some blew into my Grandparents' back garden from a neighbour who'd had his stash ripped up.. Probably some domestic there, but I can remember wondering why the women were wearing pretend beards in strange places. I thought it was funny and an oddity.. Couldn't have been more than 6 at the time..
    Then a few years later (still sub 10), one of my friends uncovered his dad's stash.. There was the thrill of doing something I knew I wasn't meant to be doing, but nothing out of the ordinary. No ill effects, apart from the fallout from having my folks hit the roof when they found out about it..
    A few years later, I watched a horror movie (that would be considered tame by today's standards) and I didn't sleep properly for weeks, and I remember being so nervous and anxious for ages.. Hey, I got over that too.. But from my perspective and recall, being exposed to horror and violence is far more damaging to a young psyche than porn.. But being young, you get over it.
    Now for real problems, you just have to step over into a third world country where death is common and visible, people you know are abducted and killed. Disease is rife and a killer. And yet some of them are far more well adjusted than a lot of the people I've seen raised in 'safe' environments...

    1. Re:Aww hey.. by Skylax · · Score: 1

      Same for me. I saw my first porn at the age of 5 or 6. Some friend from kindergarden brought his dads magazines to the playground. I have to admit I was kind of shocked when I saw it. My parents were totally cool with it, but for me it was odd to realize my parents were doing the same things (it didn't occure to me that what they were doing was probably very boring and awkward compared to porn).
      Anyway growing up you will experience several visual shock moments:
      first porn pictures, first horror movie, first porn film, first videos of real gore and violence
      You see it, you're shocked, you get over it (and hopefully maintain your sanity).

               

  42. Just be suspicious of sticky buttons... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They may not be the result of "normal" wear and tear.

  43. So her hearing defect is fixed? by howardd21 · · Score: 1

    My daughter, who has a hearing defect, was prescribed a listening program that only worked on - Windows 95.

    She was pretty freaked out by them at the time and, ten years later, she still says she remembers the screams although she can't remember what was on the videos.

    Since she can only remember the screams, I am assuming the videos fixed the hearing defect she had?

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    1. Re:So her hearing defect is fixed? by orgelspieler · · Score: 2

      Hallelujah! It's a Jamaica dungeon porn MIRACLE!!!!!

  44. OR? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "...used to be owned by a cult leader, a scout leader or an exhibitionist." I'm not sure why this is an OR instead of AND sentence.

  45. Gamestop: putting the 'X' in Xmas since 1994 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gamestop: putting the 'X' in Xmas since 1994

  46. um.. no by geekoid · · Score: 1

    "'Refurbishing is an art, as well as a craft."
    No, its a skill. One that someone wasn't very good at.

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  47. The saddest part by koan · · Score: 1

    Is the kid was crying while he described finding porn, so either his father coached him for the soon to be announced law suit or the kid is frightened of naked people... which is pretty damn sad.

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    "If any question why we died, Tell them because our fathers lied."
  48. Re:Why did the moron parents have to publicize thi by geekoid · · Score: 1

    People have been naming their kids after people who are perceived as being at the top forever.
    Why do you think Jame is a popular name? Mark?

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  49. Ordered wrong model by trevc · · Score: 0

    They meant to order the one with child porn on it.

  50. Innocense Lost! How Does This Happen? by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

    It's a terrible thing to do this to a child. Children should not be the victims of these horrific deeds.

    Not to be to inquisitive about the habbits of children. But where did this terrible event occur at? And what was the costly price for such an object? Was there a promotional code that was used? And what is their Return Policy?

  51. Another scenario! by echogen · · Score: 1

    1- Little brother receives Nintendo 3DS
    2- Big brother hides porn on 3DS for later viewing
    3- Little brother finds porn and shows it to big brother.
    4- Big brother gets busted and decides to blame Gamestop
    5- Father sues Gamestop

    Nice!

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  52. How difficult can this be? by Pichu0102 · · Score: 1

    On the 3DS, you head to settings, other settings, and format system. Then you replace the SD card with a new one to avoid any further issues.
    This isn't rocket science here.

  53. POM? by guttentag · · Score: 1

    On my computer, the r and the n ran together and read like Pom, so I saw this: "Child Gets Nintendo 3DS Full of Pom For Christmas"

    My initial reaction was, "and no one noticed it leaking? Wonderful."

  54. Best Chistmas ever. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lets have violence and porn switch places.

  55. Re:Why did the moron parents have to publicize thi by mcgrew · · Score: 1

    Relax, 10 years ago it was Kevin and in 10 years you'll have a lot of Justins running around. And it won't change 'til parents stop naming their rugrats after the current pop star du jour.

    That's not what I've seen. What I've seen (and I've been around a long time) is that people try to choose uncommon names for their kids and usually do so with "baby books" and wind up with a whole lot of kids with the same "uncommon" name. There are already a ton of Justins within ten years of Beiber's age, I know quite a few. How many fifty year old women do you know named "Marilyn"? How many fifty and sixty year old men do you know named "Clint"? I know of none, despite the fact that Marilyn Monroe and Clint eastwood were immensely popular film stars.

    In twenty years you'll be hard pressed to find many twenty year olds named Justin; twenty years ago is when all the kids got that name.

    Your hypothesis doesn't hold up to the facts.

  56. Re:Why did the moron parents have to publicize thi by gottabeme · · Score: 1

    I had two junior high teachers named Marilyn in the same school.

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  57. New model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was a 3dds!

  58. Blame the parents by Cyfun · · Score: 0

    I think the parents should be strung up for naming their boys Braydon and Bryton! It's bad enough having people with the same initials under the same roof, but by doing that cutesy shit with the letter Y, you now have two boys whose names also are spelled and sound very alike.

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  59. hahah by fredr1k · · Score: 1

    HAHAHA Lucky Bastard!

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  60. or maybe... by JustNiz · · Score: 1

    ...and of course there's no way that the family could have put it there themselves. Say in order to make a shit load of money by suing Gamestop.

    1. Re:or maybe... by BTWR · · Score: 1

      I thought the same thing myself when the father cried on camera about how traumatizing this was. Give me a freaking break - your kids saw some porn, not a video of some beheading or something. If I were a lawyer, I would *totally* tell my client to cry on camera to show how much "damage" was caused.

      Besides - HOW DID THE MEDIA FIND OUT ABOUT THIS??? It's not like Gamestop would have publicized it. The only possible way this got exposed was from the customer's (i.e. the father's) side. And if he is so "traumatized," why is he making his 5 year-old repeat this "trauma" on camera over and over?

  61. When did sex become impure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did anyone ask Braydon what he thought? I bet he is writing a thank you letter to Santa right now as we read this article. When did sex become impure?

  62. Sue Gamestop` by latestwebwonders · · Score: 1

    this is sick. the kid's parents should really sue gamestop