I kind of like this beer analogy, as it can be used to explain exactly what is going on here in terms everyone can understand:
Somone signs up for the Cable High-speed Beer Distobution Service. This service pumps beer through your cable line from a central distrubution point to the tap in your house and costs $39.99 a month. You are allowed to drink all the beer you want (This is not a GigaBeer limited service), and can rent a tap ($10.00/month) or buy a tap from them or a third-party provider ($199). Service is really good, except on Friday and Saturday nights when the tap pressure is pretty low;)
Now, a few interprizing indivuals decide to buy thier own taps, and then modify them to allow greater beer flowage through the tap. They can fill cups of beer faster 90% of the time, but still have the same low flow during Friday and Saturday nights.
Automatic firearms are legal to buy, FYI. Yes, there is some paperwork, but that is easy compaired to finding a seller: Due to law, they are no longer legal to maufacture for civilian use.
Check out the federal law books if you don't belive me... but nobody that has been arigned on counterfiting has then been convicted of stealing based on those charges.
Seperate terms of sentance too. I'm not looking at the books atm, but if I remember correctly counterfiting has a longer sentance.
I'll make it really simple to you. Go out and find a friend. If you have no friends, go find a coworker. Now, repeat the classic E.T. scene where you each reach out and touch index fingers.
Now come back here and try to explain to us how you were the first of the two to touch fingers.
That's an interesting little tidbit, however. I haven't used or downladed NeoNapster to confirm, but I'm damn sure that the addware and spyware are not seperate programs that you run. I'd be willing to bet money that the addware, at the least, is contained within the same executable that contains the borrowed source code from CDEX. The spyware, which may or may not be in the same executable file, is still installed when the 'work' of NeoNapster is installed. I highly doubt you have to run a seperate installer just to put in the spyware.
So it is my feeling that the source of the addware, definatly, and the spyware, very likely, must be accessable for NeoNapster to comply with GPL.
I'm playing Halflife on a harddrive distro. Today I suck so I'm gonna take a break and play Some_sports_game.
Shut down computer Swap hard drives (let's even make it easy and say i have a HD swap bay) Boot computer Play game
Nah.. I wasn't really in the mood for sports. How about I try Jedi Knight II.
Shut down computer Swap hard drives Boot computer Play game
Whoops... XP crashed. Since I'm down anyways, let's try Fallout Tatics.
Shut down computer Swap hard drives Boot computer Realize your DRM copy of Fallout has expired Shut down computer Swap hard drives Boot computer
And I'm the type of person that finds digging for the right CD to play the game to be enough of a pain. Immagine all the extra weight when you go to a LAN party and have to pack along an extra 20 HDs for the different games.
Have you played EQ since the SoL expansion? It turns EQ into the exact same game with the exact same models you used before (cuz you turned off all the new ones) but with still more video lag!
I could comment more on the game, but I'll pass right now.
The problem is, under Solaris, having him post his one line patch is useless. He would have to patch the entire source to/bin/login so that you have more than one line of code to compile. While I can see Sun not minding one line of code (corrected code, not even thiers) being posted, they would not allow the entire source of/bin/login to be posted.
I firmly agree that the house is more than a place to hang out when not in school, however the fact remains that very few parrents are qualified to teach several of the above-mentioned important subjects.
Hell, up until a month ago, I was completely clueless about the 'rule of 72' in relation to finance. I simply was ignorant about several of the concepts of managing money.
Could you tell me how to identify those types of mushrooms that are safe to eat, and those that arn't? Could you teach your children woodlands survival?
I highly doubt that the vast majorty of children get any idea of how firearms work besides the vision on TV. (look, he got shot 3 times and got back up! Guns must not be dangerous.)
First aid? Most parents don't know. Fundamentals of relationships? How many single parrent households out there?
Hell, it'd be easier to teach them reading a math at home and send them to school for the other stuff.
----Unfortunately, we have to deal with the situation as it is, not as we want it to be. It sounds very nice to say "the police will protect you", but in reality there are truly never any police around when you need them. I don't know how it is in other countries, but that is the situation here. Ultimately, the individual HAS to be able to protect themselves, the police mostly just fill out reports after it is too late.----
I had a very interesting conversation with a co-worker about 3 months ago. She was bitching about her neighbor who had an oven fire, didn't have an extinguisher in the house, and ended up taking down half the house and causing damage to my co-worker's house. I went into the conversation knowing that she was avidly (read: mindlessly) anti-firearm.
Her: blah,blah,blah,blah.. I can't BELIEVE she didn't have a fire extinguisher! How can you own a house and not have one?!? There is no guarentee that the firemen will come in time, I can't belive a home owner would be so unprepared as not to have one.
I interject: Heh, I guess the same thing applies with first aid kits?
Her: Of course! If one of my kids were to get cut on glass or something else I sure wouldn't want to wait for an abulance to show up! What if they don't show up in time?
Me: So wouldn't the same thing apply to people who own firearms incase the police don't show up in time?
Her jaw droped. I think I got someone see the light. Too bad I left that job a week later and didn't get a chance to talk to her after that.
Actually I would love it if American highschools tought the proper care, use, and storage of firearms. It would be a class that matters (and might prevent sad stories the the poor kid who tried to play Russian Roulette with a M1911A1).
However, I also feel schools should teach other important things they currently don't, like first aid, Marrage councling (something along those lines), basic woodlands survival, and investment finance.
Ya, they teach you reading, writing, math.. but when do they teach you the REALLY important stuff?
Yep, legal guns are the problem.. yep.. gotcha. That's why I can buy a FULL-AUTO H&K on the UK black market for aprox $320.
Somehow, there are some dense fucking idiots out there that think we can magically wish away every gun in existance, the knowlege on how to make them, the tools to make firearms, and eventually they'll go after the tools to make the tools to make firearms.
Wake the fuck up. People kill people. Firearms are no more dangerous a tool than a table saw.
Use dhcpcd instead of pump. I know on my RoadRunner service, the provider's DHCP server added a few bites to the end of the reply that windows would ignore, but would screw up pump (it would grab an IP, but still not be able to talk to anything).
--Demonspawn
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It's a Toy Story refrence.
The things you learn having young neices/nephews...
Del/s is a W2K option (not sure if it runs under NT as well)
The 'for/f' rubbish is old school dos command line scripting. Since Del/s dosn't run on DOS x.x, Win 3.x (well.. DOS), Win 9x, and Win ME (and possibly NT 3.x and/or 4.x) it's not 'be[ing] clever' at all. It is getting the command to do what we want.
So, no, it does not run at all in DOS, while it does work in CMD. Such is the magic of Microsoft: for/f (isn't it supto be %f?) is the only way do command line scripting, but the only place to find good documentation on it is DOS 6.22 help files. Win 9x dosn't include DOS help for scripting.
I don't intend any of this post as a flame towards you. I'm guessing that you are relatively new to the computing world and wern't aware that del/s was a new feature.
Yep, the US public should have absoulely NO problem with the 4th admendment to the US Constitution thrown out just on a whim. In fact, Congress just decided that the US would be much safer if private citizens were no longer allowed to own firearms, so there goes the 2nd admendment.
And since the Islamic terrorists were, of course, of the Islamic religon, let's just throw out the 1st admendment and ban the Islam within the United States.
Blah, who needs a 200 year old Constitution anyways:P
--Demonspawn
(I don't spellcheck cuz I you arn't worth that much of my time)
And many of the whole found are so obscure that it'll take a while for hackers to find them
Ummmm..... I think you forget that it was the white hat hackers that found the problem and reported it to MS (or whoever else) in the first place. Are you so sure that some other black hat didn't find it before the reporting person did? That's the unforunate hole in your thought process. The faster we can force closed systems to patch, the faster everyone can become safe from the exploit.
Unfortunatly, erring on the side of caution is not what is being done. Global warming is a total and absolute farce. It is used as a political agenda to get undesireable issues pushed through.
To use your examples:
a) We carry on as we are, saying there is no problem
Result 1) There wasn't a problem, it was all sare mongering. We are a little richer than we were before.
Frankly, this is the truth.
Result 2) Droughts, Millions dead, Rising sea levels
Frankly, I don't see how you can have droughts AND rising sea levels at the same time, but we'll skip that because I'm about to blow away every scientist who warns you about global warming. I want you to do a little experiment for me at home:
Fill your bathtub near the top and place a large chunk of ice into this tub. Make sure it dosn't overflow and that the ice is not touching the base of the tub. It should be floating, just like the icecaps in the oceans. Now mark the water level and let the tub sit overnight.
Did the ice melt? Did you notice that the water level LOWERED?
It's simple Physics (well, Chemistry and Physics, and possibly not _that_ simple) when yout think about it. Ice is less dence than water. The majority of the iceberg is underwater. If you calculate the boyancy you will find that after melting: Volume of Ice + Water > Volume of Melted Ice + Water.
That's right, These scientists have based the doomsday global theroy on mistruths and lies. The above is a repeatable experiment. Go home, Do it, Don't say I didn't warn you that you'll think differntly about global warming.
And to contuniue:
b) We start to tighten our belts, we don't have the same amount of consumption.
Result 1) There wasn't a problem. We can all change to act as we were before we tightened our belts.
WHEN? When these same scientiets who have lied to us tell us we can? Not to mention the ECOLOGICAL DAMAGE they will have caused in the meantime. If you want proof, think of R-134a. R-12 had CFC's (now proven NOT to cause holes in the ozone layer) and was bassically baned by the US goverment on the advice of these 'scientists' and replaced in all motor vehicles with R-134a. A few facts about R-134a is that larger ammounts are required in a system as it is less efficent, it is more expensive and ecologically damaging to produce, it is more toxic and dangerous to dispose of, it has a shorter lifespan in the vehicle than R-12, and it requires more advanced rubber fittings and gaskets which are more ecological damaging to manufacture. That's a real winner, eh?
Result 2) There was a problem, but due to our...
See a) 2)
Look, I know I come accross harshly in this post. The reason I am so harsh about issues such as these is they display the underlying problem with America: Apathy. The truth is, if we didn't blindly accept what the media and 'experts' spoonfeed to us and questioned these things ourselves (Don't forget the experiment!), we'd see that they are full of shit. If we question them and do our own search and find out some expert is correct, then at least we KNOW, rather than just blindly accept what is presented before us.
How do we get people to finally think for themselves?
The real reason you find so many compuers with crummy cases/speakers/powersupplies/etc is due to the competiveness of the market and the stupidity of the buyers.
Face it, the average person who walks into CompUSA only understands 3 things: MHz, MB, GB. They don't know a Modem from a WinModem, a 400 Watt power supply from a 125 watt one, or a GeForce 2 Ultra from a Raedon. Unless you tell them how fast the processor is, how many MB of RAM and Video memory it has, or how many GB's the Hard drive is, they don't know how to compare the two. (Trust me on all of this, I unfortunatly worked computer retail sales and sold several computers to darling 12 year old sons of the Mother with the credit card.)
Computer makers realize this. They know that they can shave $30 off by putting in some lame WinModem, save $50 and even LOOK BETTER by puting in a 16MB S3 instead of a 8MB TNT2, save more by putting in a minimal power supply, and even save the phucking 30 cents a substandard case gives them. And then they use all that savings to price themselves $50-100 less than the computer next to them. That is how they generate sales.
The real kicker? They get away with it. Why? Because anyone who knows enough about computers to even understand the difference between a WinModem and a Modem is out building thier own computer.
Read the Moderator FAQ. You cannot mod posts on a article you have posted to.
And frankly:
1. That did deserve points. While you did not create anything new you did bring up relevent and timely information.
2. I need to use up the mod points I have. I'm sick of all the moderator boxes phucking up my browser (altho I'm sure nested -1 with 300+ posts per page helps)
However, I didn't mod your post. I can't, as I'm now posting here to enlighten you on how moderation works;)
--Demonspawn
How stupid is the AU goverment that they don't realize forcing companies to surrender all passwords/safeguards/etc. is going to drive multi-national companies off AU soil?
And then what's going to happen to the unemployment rate? What about all the Taxes they are no longer getting from these companies? Just how stupid are they?
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I kind of like this beer analogy, as it can be used to explain exactly what is going on here in terms everyone can understand:
/month) or buy a tap from them or a third-party provider ($199). Service is really good, except on Friday and Saturday nights when the tap pressure is pretty low ;)
Somone signs up for the Cable High-speed Beer Distobution Service. This service pumps beer through your cable line from a central distrubution point to the tap in your house and costs $39.99 a month. You are allowed to drink all the beer you want (This is not a GigaBeer limited service), and can rent a tap ($10.00
Now, a few interprizing indivuals decide to buy thier own taps, and then modify them to allow greater beer flowage through the tap. They can fill cups of beer faster 90% of the time, but still have the same low flow during Friday and Saturday nights.
They have commited a crime how?
--Demonspawn
Automatic firearms are legal to buy, FYI. Yes, there is some paperwork, but that is easy compaired to finding a seller: Due to law, they are no longer legal to maufacture for civilian use.
--Demonspawn
No, it's counterfiting.
Check out the federal law books if you don't belive me... but nobody that has been arigned on counterfiting has then been convicted of stealing based on those charges.
Seperate terms of sentance too. I'm not looking at the books atm, but if I remember correctly counterfiting has a longer sentance.
I'll make it really simple to you. Go out and find a friend. If you have no friends, go find a coworker. Now, repeat the classic E.T. scene where you each reach out and touch index fingers.
Now come back here and try to explain to us how you were the first of the two to touch fingers.
--Demonspawn
>>>when you distribute them as separate works.
That's an interesting little tidbit, however. I haven't used or downladed NeoNapster to confirm, but I'm damn sure that the addware and spyware are not seperate programs that you run. I'd be willing to bet money that the addware, at the least, is contained within the same executable that contains the borrowed source code from CDEX. The spyware, which may or may not be in the same executable file, is still installed when the 'work' of NeoNapster is installed. I highly doubt you have to run a seperate installer just to put in the spyware.
So it is my feeling that the source of the addware, definatly, and the spyware, very likely, must be accessable for NeoNapster to comply with GPL.
Actually, he's all wrong. WWJD stands for: Who Wants Jack Daniels?
--Demonspawn
Won't happen.. Won't ever happen.
I'm playing Halflife on a harddrive distro. Today I suck so I'm gonna take a break and play Some_sports_game.
Shut down computer
Swap hard drives (let's even make it easy and say i have a HD swap bay)
Boot computer
Play game
Nah.. I wasn't really in the mood for sports. How about I try Jedi Knight II.
Shut down computer
Swap hard drives
Boot computer
Play game
Whoops... XP crashed. Since I'm down anyways, let's try Fallout Tatics.
Shut down computer
Swap hard drives
Boot computer
Realize your DRM copy of Fallout has expired
Shut down computer
Swap hard drives
Boot computer
And I'm the type of person that finds digging for the right CD to play the game to be enough of a pain. Immagine all the extra weight when you go to a LAN party and have to pack along an extra 20 HDs for the different games.
--Demonspawn
Kan't speel, dun't kare.
Have you played EQ since the SoL expansion? It turns EQ into the exact same game with the exact same models you used before (cuz you turned off all the new ones) but with still more video lag!
I could comment more on the game, but I'll pass right now.
--Demonspawn
You guys arn't thinking right.. I can compress truely random data well over 10000:1
All I need is the random seed and the random number generation forumla....
Think outside of the box.
--Demonspawn
The problem is, under Solaris, having him post his one line patch is useless. He would have to patch the entire source to /bin/login so that you have more than one line of code to compile. While I can see Sun not minding one line of code (corrected code, not even thiers) being posted, they would not allow the entire source of /bin/login to be posted.
--Demonspawn
Kant speel, don't kare.
I firmly agree that the house is more than a place to hang out when not in school, however the fact remains that very few parrents are qualified to teach several of the above-mentioned important subjects.
Hell, up until a month ago, I was completely clueless about the 'rule of 72' in relation to finance. I simply was ignorant about several of the concepts of managing money.
Could you tell me how to identify those types of mushrooms that are safe to eat, and those that arn't? Could you teach your children woodlands survival?
I highly doubt that the vast majorty of children get any idea of how firearms work besides the vision on TV. (look, he got shot 3 times and got back up! Guns must not be dangerous.)
First aid? Most parents don't know. Fundamentals of relationships? How many single parrent households out there?
Hell, it'd be easier to teach them reading a math at home and send them to school for the other stuff.
--Demonspawn
Kant speel, don't kare.
----Unfortunately, we have to deal with the situation as it is, not as we want it to be. It sounds very nice to say "the police will protect you", but in reality there are truly never any police around when you need them. I don't know how it is in other countries, but that is the situation here. Ultimately, the individual HAS to be able to protect themselves, the police mostly just fill out reports after it is too late.----
I had a very interesting conversation with a co-worker about 3 months ago. She was bitching about her neighbor who had an oven fire, didn't have an extinguisher in the house, and ended up taking down half the house and causing damage to my co-worker's house. I went into the conversation knowing that she was avidly (read: mindlessly) anti-firearm.
Her: blah,blah,blah,blah.. I can't BELIEVE she didn't have a fire extinguisher! How can you own a house and not have one?!? There is no guarentee that the firemen will come in time, I can't belive a home owner would be so unprepared as not to have one.
I interject: Heh, I guess the same thing applies with first aid kits?
Her: Of course! If one of my kids were to get cut on glass or something else I sure wouldn't want to wait for an abulance to show up! What if they don't show up in time?
Me: So wouldn't the same thing apply to people who own firearms incase the police don't show up in time?
Her jaw droped. I think I got someone see the light. Too bad I left that job a week later and didn't get a chance to talk to her after that.
--Demonspawn
Actually I would love it if American highschools tought the proper care, use, and storage of firearms. It would be a class that matters (and might prevent sad stories the the poor kid who tried to play Russian Roulette with a M1911A1).
However, I also feel schools should teach other important things they currently don't, like first aid, Marrage councling (something along those lines), basic woodlands survival, and investment finance.
Ya, they teach you reading, writing, math.. but when do they teach you the REALLY important stuff?
--Demonspawn
kant speel, don't kare.
Yep, legal guns are the problem.. yep.. gotcha. That's why I can buy a FULL-AUTO H&K on the UK black market for aprox $320.
Somehow, there are some dense fucking idiots out there that think we can magically wish away every gun in existance, the knowlege on how to make them, the tools to make firearms, and eventually they'll go after the tools to make the tools to make firearms.
Wake the fuck up. People kill people. Firearms are no more dangerous a tool than a table saw.
--Demonspawn
Use dhcpcd instead of pump. I know on my RoadRunner service, the provider's DHCP server added a few bites to the end of the reply that windows would ignore, but would screw up pump (it would grab an IP, but still not be able to talk to anything).
--Demonspawn
It's a Toy Story refrence.
The things you learn having young neices/nephews...
--Demonspawn
Del /s is a W2K option (not sure if it runs under NT as well)
/f' rubbish is old school dos command line scripting. Since Del /s dosn't run on DOS x.x, Win 3.x (well.. DOS), Win 9x, and Win ME (and possibly NT 3.x and/or 4.x) it's not 'be[ing] clever' at all. It is getting the command to do what we want.
/f (isn't it supto be %f?) is the only way do command line scripting, but the only place to find good documentation on it is DOS 6.22 help files. Win 9x dosn't include DOS help for scripting.
/s was a new feature.
The 'for
So, no, it does not run at all in DOS, while it does work in CMD. Such is the magic of Microsoft: for
I don't intend any of this post as a flame towards you. I'm guessing that you are relatively new to the computing world and wern't aware that del
--Demonspawn
What do you consider to be the best OS in the world?
I guess the correct question would include: and for what application?
--Demonspawn
Yep, the US public should have absoulely NO problem with the 4th admendment to the US Constitution thrown out just on a whim. In fact, Congress just decided that the US would be much safer if private citizens were no longer allowed to own firearms, so there goes the 2nd admendment.
:P
And since the Islamic terrorists were, of course, of the Islamic religon, let's just throw out the 1st admendment and ban the Islam within the United States.
Blah, who needs a 200 year old Constitution anyways
--Demonspawn
(I don't spellcheck cuz I you arn't worth that much of my time)
And many of the whole found are so obscure that it'll take a while for hackers to find them
Ummmm..... I think you forget that it was the white hat hackers that found the problem and reported it to MS (or whoever else) in the first place. Are you so sure that some other black hat didn't find it before the reporting person did? That's the unforunate hole in your thought process. The faster we can force closed systems to patch, the faster everyone can become safe from the exploit.
--Demonspawn
God forbid someone should actually have to RTFM.
It's the dumbing down of software that's made it so fscking bloated and buggy.
--Demonspawn
Unfortunatly, erring on the side of caution is not what is being done. Global warming is a total and absolute farce. It is used as a political agenda to get undesireable issues pushed through.
...
To use your examples:
a) We carry on as we are, saying there is no problem
Result 1) There wasn't a problem, it was all sare mongering. We are a little richer than we were before.
Frankly, this is the truth.
Result 2) Droughts, Millions dead, Rising sea levels
Frankly, I don't see how you can have droughts AND rising sea levels at the same time, but we'll skip that because I'm about to blow away every scientist who warns you about global warming. I want you to do a little experiment for me at home:
Fill your bathtub near the top and place a large chunk of ice into this tub. Make sure it dosn't overflow and that the ice is not touching the base of the tub. It should be floating, just like the icecaps in the oceans. Now mark the water level and let the tub sit overnight.
Did the ice melt? Did you notice that the water level LOWERED?
It's simple Physics (well, Chemistry and Physics, and possibly not _that_ simple) when yout think about it. Ice is less dence than water. The majority of the iceberg is underwater. If you calculate the boyancy you will find that after melting: Volume of Ice + Water > Volume of Melted Ice + Water.
That's right, These scientists have based the doomsday global theroy on mistruths and lies. The above is a repeatable experiment. Go home, Do it, Don't say I didn't warn you that you'll think differntly about global warming.
And to contuniue:
b) We start to tighten our belts, we don't have the same amount of consumption.
Result 1) There wasn't a problem. We can all change to act as we were before we tightened our belts.
WHEN? When these same scientiets who have lied to us tell us we can? Not to mention the ECOLOGICAL DAMAGE they will have caused in the meantime. If you want proof, think of R-134a. R-12 had CFC's (now proven NOT to cause holes in the ozone layer) and was bassically baned by the US goverment on the advice of these 'scientists' and replaced in all motor vehicles with R-134a. A few facts about R-134a is that larger ammounts are required in a system as it is less efficent, it is more expensive and ecologically damaging to produce, it is more toxic and dangerous to dispose of, it has a shorter lifespan in the vehicle than R-12, and it requires more advanced rubber fittings and gaskets which are more ecological damaging to manufacture. That's a real winner, eh?
Result 2) There was a problem, but due to our
See a) 2)
Look, I know I come accross harshly in this post. The reason I am so harsh about issues such as these is they display the underlying problem with America: Apathy. The truth is, if we didn't blindly accept what the media and 'experts' spoonfeed to us and questioned these things ourselves (Don't forget the experiment!), we'd see that they are full of shit. If we question them and do our own search and find out some expert is correct, then at least we KNOW, rather than just blindly accept what is presented before us.
How do we get people to finally think for themselves?
--Demonspawn
Kant speel, don't kare.
The real reason you find so many compuers with crummy cases/speakers/powersupplies/etc is due to the competiveness of the market and the stupidity of the buyers.
Face it, the average person who walks into CompUSA only understands 3 things: MHz, MB, GB. They don't know a Modem from a WinModem, a 400 Watt power supply from a 125 watt one, or a GeForce 2 Ultra from a Raedon. Unless you tell them how fast the processor is, how many MB of RAM and Video memory it has, or how many GB's the Hard drive is, they don't know how to compare the two. (Trust me on all of this, I unfortunatly worked computer retail sales and sold several computers to darling 12 year old sons of the Mother with the credit card.)
Computer makers realize this. They know that they can shave $30 off by putting in some lame WinModem, save $50 and even LOOK BETTER by puting in a 16MB S3 instead of a 8MB TNT2, save more by putting in a minimal power supply, and even save the phucking 30 cents a substandard case gives them. And then they use all that savings to price themselves $50-100 less than the computer next to them. That is how they generate sales.
The real kicker? They get away with it. Why? Because anyone who knows enough about computers to even understand the difference between a WinModem and a Modem is out building thier own computer.
--Demonspawn
Read the Moderator FAQ. You cannot mod posts on a article you have posted to. And frankly: 1. That did deserve points. While you did not create anything new you did bring up relevent and timely information. 2. I need to use up the mod points I have. I'm sick of all the moderator boxes phucking up my browser (altho I'm sure nested -1 with 300+ posts per page helps) However, I didn't mod your post. I can't, as I'm now posting here to enlighten you on how moderation works ;)
--Demonspawn
Hate to reply to my own post, but another thing:
/. had a edit post ability)
How stupid is the AU goverment that they don't realize forcing companies to surrender all passwords/safeguards/etc. is going to drive multi-national companies off AU soil?
And then what's going to happen to the unemployment rate? What about all the Taxes they are no longer getting from these companies? Just how stupid are they?
--Demonspawn (Wishing