"Making money is only one of many possible alternative uses of one's time."
Let me put it this way: if all you'd be doing if you weren't accomplishing a task that you could have paid someone to do would be watching television or something equally as pointless, then there is no loss.
Also, I have no idea what losses you're talking about if it isn't about money.
"there wasn't a need they wouldn't bother to provide the service."
There isn't a need, these are just extremely lazy people who waste their money by paying other people to do things which they could have easily accomplished themselves. You don't spend an hour reading a manual, you spend a few minutes doing so.
"If you study economics you will find that it is not necessarily optimal to do everything for yourself"
How so? If you mean that in the time it takes you to accomplish these tasks, you could have been making money, well, these tasks are usually accomplished when one is not working, therefore no money is lost.
"Reality check: no one can know everything about everything"
No, but they can spend a few minutes doing their research before being ripped off. The internet is a great tool for finding information, especially on simple things such as this.
"if this saves them more than 12 minutes, it's arguably a good deal"
I keep seeing responses such as this and it makes no sense. People are quite obviously going to do this in their free time, so they've lost no money. People don't work 24 hours a day, hopefully.
"people pay $10 every day for a meal that isn't worth more than a couple of bucks in ingredients because it saves them time cooking and time cleaning."
If you're experienced you've accumulated a lot of knowledge about a particular subject.
"but experience does grow with age"
I never claimed that it didn't, I just said that just because someone is young, that doesn't mean they're inexperienced. The "young" part of your comment was pretty pointless. People learn at different rates.
"The only way to become proficient in computer programming is to do it"
Like everything else. This has nothing to do with being young, that's all I was pointing out.
"And I've seen Java shops in which inexperienced coders slaved away for years at pointless code b/c of their own bad app design"
Sounds like they need to fire those programmers, then. They obviously don't know what they're doing and it's painfully obvious. This isn't a problem with Java or whatever, but the employers.
"1. I've never found any evidence that the college degree is in fact worthless."
No, no. Not the education. I meant the degree itself is just a piece of paper, and going to college is a worthless endeavor if you know what you're doing already.
"2. You don't have time to properly evaluate everyone who might apply for a job"
This is lazy and idiotic. Having a degree doesn't ensure that you're knowledgeable in the subject you took anymore than having a reputable portfolio that shows your actual work does. I mean, it helps, but they shouldn't instantly assume they know what they're doing.
"3. Domain-specific knowledge is pretty much irrelevant. Skill at learning is where it's at."
You don't need a college degree for that either.
"but didn't have my broad spectrum of experience messing around with unrelated projects"
Unrelated is the key word. What does that have to do with anything if the knowledge won't benefit the employer? If it does, then by all means. But you don't need a college degree for that 'extra knowledge', either.
I'm surprised at how many people agree with this decision. They let innocent creatures die for a small amount of money, and I'm sure they'll later claim to be heroes or whatever they want to call themselves. These animals didn't do anything to deserve that.
"They were his responsibility and he failed them."
So did the firefighters which could have saved them but chose not to for a small amount of money. This just further shows how the existence of worthless artificial currencies hurts our society and encourages greed and corruption.
Maybe, just maybe, he was poor and couldn't afford anymore bills. They had the ability to save lives of innocent creatures, but they let them burn. They didn't do anything to deserve that. Save lives? Apparently that isn't the goal of these firefighters unless they get their worthless money. Perfect example of how money is detrimental to the rest of society.
What? So they just let innocent animals die for their own selfish reasons ($75)? What if it had been humans in that building? Would the result have been the same?
Seriously. I hate people who steal money (their own money) that only exists in the future of an alternate dimension where the artist/business made more money (which is potential profit). Which means I hate... pretty much everyone.
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"Making money is only one of many possible alternative uses of one's time."
Let me put it this way: if all you'd be doing if you weren't accomplishing a task that you could have paid someone to do would be watching television or something equally as pointless, then there is no loss.
Also, I have no idea what losses you're talking about if it isn't about money.
"there wasn't a need they wouldn't bother to provide the service."
There isn't a need, these are just extremely lazy people who waste their money by paying other people to do things which they could have easily accomplished themselves. You don't spend an hour reading a manual, you spend a few minutes doing so.
"If you study economics you will find that it is not necessarily optimal to do everything for yourself"
How so? If you mean that in the time it takes you to accomplish these tasks, you could have been making money, well, these tasks are usually accomplished when one is not working, therefore no money is lost.
So, waste money on something drastically easy on the off chance that your power will go off? I don't think so.
"How is this different from"
It isn't. The problem is that lazy idiots don't do their research before buying everything to save them a tiny bit of time.
"Reality check: no one can know everything about everything"
No, but they can spend a few minutes doing their research before being ripped off. The internet is a great tool for finding information, especially on simple things such as this.
"if this saves them more than 12 minutes, it's arguably a good deal"
I keep seeing responses such as this and it makes no sense. People are quite obviously going to do this in their free time, so they've lost no money. People don't work 24 hours a day, hopefully.
"people pay $10 every day for a meal that isn't worth more than a couple of bucks in ingredients because it saves them time cooking and time cleaning."
That's because they're lazy idiots.
How do you screw up the process of downloading firmware?
It was filled with people who barely knew how to work a television remote, let alone use a computer. I think you might be wasting your time...
"They'd be idiots if they were IT professionals who fell to this scam, but most of them aren't."
They're still idiots because they have no idea what they're doing. These types of scams are obvious even if you're not an IT professional.
"How likely are most users to suspect phishing"
Maybe they should take the two seconds required and educate themselves about how not to fall for already obvious scams on the internet.
If you're experienced you've accumulated a lot of knowledge about a particular subject.
"but experience does grow with age"
I never claimed that it didn't, I just said that just because someone is young, that doesn't mean they're inexperienced. The "young" part of your comment was pretty pointless. People learn at different rates.
"The only way to become proficient in computer programming is to do it"
Like everything else. This has nothing to do with being young, that's all I was pointing out.
After seeing lots of comments such as yours, I'm really reconsidering working at a large game developing company.
"That is true for almost any kind of software development, especially when you're young and inexperienced"
Inexperienced, yes. Young, no. Age has little to do with experience, as experience is just the amount of knowledge you've acquired.
"And I've seen Java shops in which inexperienced coders slaved away for years at pointless code b/c of their own bad app design"
Sounds like they need to fire those programmers, then. They obviously don't know what they're doing and it's painfully obvious. This isn't a problem with Java or whatever, but the employers.
"1. I've never found any evidence that the college degree is in fact worthless."
No, no. Not the education. I meant the degree itself is just a piece of paper, and going to college is a worthless endeavor if you know what you're doing already.
"2. You don't have time to properly evaluate everyone who might apply for a job"
This is lazy and idiotic. Having a degree doesn't ensure that you're knowledgeable in the subject you took anymore than having a reputable portfolio that shows your actual work does. I mean, it helps, but they shouldn't instantly assume they know what they're doing.
"3. Domain-specific knowledge is pretty much irrelevant. Skill at learning is where it's at."
You don't need a college degree for that either.
"but didn't have my broad spectrum of experience messing around with unrelated projects"
Unrelated is the key word. What does that have to do with anything if the knowledge won't benefit the employer? If it does, then by all means. But you don't need a college degree for that 'extra knowledge', either.
"Remember, this is a democracy"
It's a republic, a democracies more corrupted form.
"We as a society place a much higher value on human life"
Apparently we place the same amount of value in innocent animals as we do property. Sad.
"Yeah, sounds like a great plan."
Saving innocent animals when you have the ability to do so is a great plan, yes.
"As for his pets, those were his fault"
I'm surprised at how many people agree with this decision. They let innocent creatures die for a small amount of money, and I'm sure they'll later claim to be heroes or whatever they want to call themselves. These animals didn't do anything to deserve that.
"They were his responsibility and he failed them."
So did the firefighters which could have saved them but chose not to for a small amount of money. This just further shows how the existence of worthless artificial currencies hurts our society and encourages greed and corruption.
"wasn't worth $75"
Maybe, just maybe, he was poor and couldn't afford anymore bills. They had the ability to save lives of innocent creatures, but they let them burn. They didn't do anything to deserve that. Save lives? Apparently that isn't the goal of these firefighters unless they get their worthless money. Perfect example of how money is detrimental to the rest of society.
You don't just let innocent animals or people burn in a building when you have the ability to do something about it.
What? So they just let innocent animals die for their own selfish reasons ($75)? What if it had been humans in that building? Would the result have been the same?
They let innocent animals burn for worthless money? I'm speechless (not really, I'm not surprised in the least). What the fuck is wrong with them?
"pirate jackasses"
Seriously. I hate people who steal money (their own money) that only exists in the future of an alternate dimension where the artist/business made more money (which is potential profit). Which means I hate... pretty much everyone.
"Play stupid all you want, how about you show some numbers to prove otherwise"
You're the one who first stated something as a fact, not him. The burden of proof is on you.
"It's rather easy to go to any torrent site and see how many users are downloading pirated goods."
Really? It's easy to monitor every torrent file in existence to see how much legal media is being torrented versus illegal media?