It reminded me of the over-the-top, paranoid fantasies and fallacies that were popular during the time of SOPA.
Saying that a law will most likely harm innocents is hardly a fallacy (if that's what you were referring to). The government is made up of imperfect human beings; given that, it's not far-fetched at all to suggest that such a law would be abused.
but what makes people think they have a right to something at any price?
What makes you think that people think that?
But they do have a right to not buy something. And if they don't like this practice, they probably shouldn't. Stores can charge whatever they want, but hopefully people resist this.
Are you certain? While they by no means need to be able to do more in-depth things (like someone who simply drives a car doesn't need to be able to put one together), I'd at least think they should learn how to properly operate a computer.
Even just moving a file from folder to folder fills them with dread.
Usually you learn how to drive a car properly before you attempt to drive a car, but I guess people don't even bother applying that here.
I think you are falling into the trap of thinking you are familiar with something that you are not.
I just have trouble believing that such people could even figure out how to work an installer. I guess they can, though; what a shame that is.
As far as I know, though, you still have to run Steam to play the games. I'm aware of offline mode, and I certainly think Steam is better for having it, but having to run Steam is still undesirable for me.
You realize that requires the argument be made that none of XYZ do ABC, which is then followed by "But this one XYZ does ABC", and then following that up with "No *true* XYZ does ABC".
What is a "true pirate"? These "cheap bastards" fit the criteria of a 'pirate' regardless of their motivation. The person above mentioned "true pirates" as if anyone not like them isn't a "true pirate." They don't have to explicitly say "No *true* XYZ does ABC," either.
I wouldn't claim that there all no pirate would pirate to save money
I saw where you (or the person who posted that) were going with that, but I did not care for that particular phrase. I'd drop the "true pirate" part.
How casual? If they seriously cannot apply a crack, I highly doubt they can figure out how to use Steam.
But I don't believe "reasonable DRM" exists, anyway. Steam itself would be okay if you could optionally detach the games from it so that you could run them without it, but not being able to do so is what makes it DRM.
In the rest of the world, they amend and rewrite their Constitution (on average) once a generation.
Right. Amend it. Sadly, the US government would rather flagrantly disobey it and use whatever interpretation method that will benefit them at the moment.
Without that fetishism, we wouldn't have idiots pointing at every law about guns or seatbelts and saying "that's not in the Constitution!!11!1"
I wish these people would do that in regards to things such as the TSA or the Patriot Act. That would be nice.
How is it unjust for bad driving habits to be well known to all?
How is it unjust to have your crimes known to all? Allowing the government to have surveillance cameras installed in every room of everyone's houses could save lives. Isn't not allowing that a way to cheat society and deceive others?
Why don't you want government surveillance cameras installed in every room of your house? What laws are you breaking? You must be breaking some; why else would you not want the government spying on you?
Well, I hope that if that happens, we don't have awful cars that violate our privacy. If they're going to make it illegal for humans to drive, the least they could do is not violate our privacy rights at the exact same time.
But just like we do now, we could do without it. How did we ever survive without privacy violations in exchange for perceived safety?
Now, realize, I'm not saying "come into my house and sift through my drawers and file system".
Of course not. That's completely different because I care about that issue. However, in this case, I believe your privacy should be violated, and only my opinion about whether that information should be private matters.
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People should gain civic rights gradually and at an individual pace, much like your car insurance premiums.
Sounds like a good plan if you're aiming for a police state.
It reminded me of the over-the-top, paranoid fantasies and fallacies that were popular during the time of SOPA.
Saying that a law will most likely harm innocents is hardly a fallacy (if that's what you were referring to). The government is made up of imperfect human beings; given that, it's not far-fetched at all to suggest that such a law would be abused.
OOPS sorry i smashed your window i'm not responsible
Yes, that's exactly what was being argued. People who are directly responsible for the damage shouldn't be punished. That was surely it.
How do you know he doesn't oppose both?
What does this have to do with anything? Because you believe there are terrorists that means we should spy on everyone?
Same justification for the TSA. I'd say freedom is far more important than safety, and anyone who would give it up is extraordinarily credulous.
hell I garuntee there's policies at your work you disagree with, yet you still go.
None of which require me to violate people's rights. If that were the case, I'd say it would indeed be wrong to go. Also, tu quoque.
How is it that someone can take them away but not give them back again? Can't they recognize a new right? Why are either of these things impossible?
but what makes people think they have a right to something at any price?
What makes you think that people think that?
But they do have a right to not buy something. And if they don't like this practice, they probably shouldn't. Stores can charge whatever they want, but hopefully people resist this.
What? I don't think you read the post I replied to; I was not referring to the TSA.
If the government was perfect and also impervious to infiltration I wouldn't mind.
I'd still mind, actually. The idea of someone constantly watching over you and recording your actions is rather unsettling to me.
None of those jobs inherently require the employees to violate your rights.
What are you talking about? It looks to me like it's just another "you don't know what the future holds for technology" argument. It seems true, too.
Reality has nothing to do with popular opinion.
And?
highly intelligent
Are you certain? While they by no means need to be able to do more in-depth things (like someone who simply drives a car doesn't need to be able to put one together), I'd at least think they should learn how to properly operate a computer.
Even just moving a file from folder to folder fills them with dread.
Usually you learn how to drive a car properly before you attempt to drive a car, but I guess people don't even bother applying that here.
I think you are falling into the trap of thinking you are familiar with something that you are not.
I just have trouble believing that such people could even figure out how to work an installer. I guess they can, though; what a shame that is.
As far as I know, though, you still have to run Steam to play the games. I'm aware of offline mode, and I certainly think Steam is better for having it, but having to run Steam is still undesirable for me.
You realize that requires the argument be made that none of XYZ do ABC, which is then followed by "But this one XYZ does ABC", and then following that up with "No *true* XYZ does ABC".
What is a "true pirate"? These "cheap bastards" fit the criteria of a 'pirate' regardless of their motivation. The person above mentioned "true pirates" as if anyone not like them isn't a "true pirate." They don't have to explicitly say "No *true* XYZ does ABC," either.
I wouldn't claim that there all no pirate would pirate to save money
I saw where you (or the person who posted that) were going with that, but I did not care for that particular phrase. I'd drop the "true pirate" part.
reasonable DRM to reduce casual piracy
How casual? If they seriously cannot apply a crack, I highly doubt they can figure out how to use Steam.
But I don't believe "reasonable DRM" exists, anyway. Steam itself would be okay if you could optionally detach the games from it so that you could run them without it, but not being able to do so is what makes it DRM.
True pirates
"No True Pirate..."
In the rest of the world, they amend and rewrite their Constitution (on average) once a generation.
Right. Amend it. Sadly, the US government would rather flagrantly disobey it and use whatever interpretation method that will benefit them at the moment.
Without that fetishism, we wouldn't have idiots pointing at every law about guns or seatbelts and saying "that's not in the Constitution!!11!1"
I wish these people would do that in regards to things such as the TSA or the Patriot Act. That would be nice.
4) Facebook maintains a network of spies even if you don't happen to be on it yourself.
What?
8) Your ISP knows your IP number.
I'd be far more worried about the content (and you can use encryption for that).
Given all of that what possible concern would networked cars be.
The fact that things are bad now doesn't mean we should make them even worse!
I used to worry about privacy, when I still had any.
Will you say the same if the government takes away all other rights? It's time to fight for it, not give up.
How is it unjust for bad driving habits to be well known to all?
How is it unjust to have your crimes known to all? Allowing the government to have surveillance cameras installed in every room of everyone's houses could save lives. Isn't not allowing that a way to cheat society and deceive others?
Why don't you want government surveillance cameras installed in every room of your house? What laws are you breaking? You must be breaking some; why else would you not want the government spying on you?
Well, I hope that if that happens, we don't have awful cars that violate our privacy. If they're going to make it illegal for humans to drive, the least they could do is not violate our privacy rights at the exact same time.
That wouldn't exactly be bad information to have.
But just like we do now, we could do without it. How did we ever survive without privacy violations in exchange for perceived safety?
Now, realize, I'm not saying "come into my house and sift through my drawers and file system".
Of course not. That's completely different because I care about that issue. However, in this case, I believe your privacy should be violated, and only my opinion about whether that information should be private matters.
Yes, you may or may not be tracked by your cell phone (if you don't take counter measures against that), so let's make it even worse!
Violence is okay if you call it an educational slap. Make sure to give a few to your wife, too. Educational slaps all around!