Intellectual properties are much harder to develop and need far more protection than any manual labour
Yeah, sure it is. I'd like to see you digging a ditch or mining coal for a living. You wouldn't survive five fucking minutes, you effete snob.
but the/. crowd wants to literally put us further down the scale with the ditch diggers and that ilk.
Right now, I find you repulsive. Frankly I have more respect for a ditch digger since he's doing honest to goodness hard work (and badly paid for it too).
Sorry, but your love of the ditch digger and his simple product in no way increases its value in the eyes of society over the person who figures out how to dig new and better ditches. Right there you have the beginnings of a social heirarchy that takes away from the total equality you're pushing.
I do not take away from the ditch digger that his job is back breaking and demeaning, but he is doing a commodity job; you can replace him with any other ditch digger because they produce exactly the same product. There is no value in doing what everyone else is doing. Will you reward the one who plays "Happy birthday to you" for three hours to a packed stadium, or the one who dreams up a new tune? Society rewards newness and uniqueness; it is the person who thinks up new and better ditches that stands out and shines to be rewarded. How is someone who does mental work doing any less honest to goodness hard work than the guy throwing dirt around? Please take your communist crap elsewhere. Insightful my ass.
The premise is homes, cars, factories and offices store up hydrogen when energy is available, and supply it into the new energy network when it's not.
So does that mean the electric company will pay me when I generate power and put it into the grid? I believe that is the case now with solar and wind. In the distributed model, is there even an electric company other than someone who maintains the power lines? "In Soviet Russia electric company pays YOU!" I guess not.
What is the difference between dividing time into discrete seconds and dividing it into sequential halves? It all seems artificial. Does the universe care about what a second is?
Why "most"? Are the few (the most destructive) from the 20th century that were caused by capitalism, communism, and plain old racism not enough? Blaming wars on religion is just a convenient excuse for crucifying Christians, beheading Bhuddist monks, burning Jews, and quartering Muslims because you don't like the wart on their face or the way they walk. There is usually something else not too much deeper if you care to look.
And I have to pay for this because telemarketers think it's their right to harrass me? The telemarketers are probably collecting your $80/month from the system they sold you to offset what they are losing when you don't buy anything from them. I don't understand how you find the situation acceptable enough to blow so much of your own money. It's that permissive attitude that lets them get away with it in the first place.
Yes, it's so easy to have to adjust your life to being a series of aliases just to accomodate some slimy telemarketers. Next, I'll make up a name for the newspaper boy in case I need to stiff him on payment for a few weeks. Then I'll make up a name for my gas card company...never know when they might call. Oh, and don't forget the neighbors...might not want to talk to them sometimes.
Yes, of course you use snapshots to facilitate backups, which is what Network Appliances does. Snapshots are just an easier way for users to pull their own data out of their butts when they delete it, leaving the tapes to suffer less wear and tear for the real restore emergencies.
Because it becomes obsolete and eventually unusably old technology even to the most diehard fans. Then, it is just space junk, succumbing to a cascade effect of breaking down into smaller and smaller (and faster and faster) pieces that pose a huge threat to manned travel. Orbital space needs to be cleaned up not filled up, thus satellites are now brought down one way or another.
A terror campaign through the office works wonders to convince people that Fscking around with your systems is not encouraged. I imagine that my hero, the BOFH, would do no different. You have your choice of chainsaw, stick with impaled head, or flamethrower.
I remember when we finally got the systems in a locked room at our current place. Someone tried to slip in the door behind me as I was rushing out. Turned around, slammed it shut as they about to step across, and told them "I don't f*cking think so." Guy never tried it again.
Famous last words. Please tell us what business you are in so we can avoid the products/services that will collapse without notice like a house of cards.
When you're talking about that much data, backups become something you're only going to pull out for catastrophic recovery. Something like snapshots become more and more important. Are any of the upcoming Linux filesystems going to address this? I imagine that something like that would begin to take customers away from EMC and Network Appliance, and would put high reliability in the hands of smaller organizations.
What a bunch of nonsense that article is. It only covers brain dead web surfers who are too stupid to qualify their searches properly. GIGO, people! I blame Jeeves which made everyone thing that the search box had to be a single statement rather than a set of individual keywords.
proper searches: Googlehole #1:
flowers -florists
flowers gardening
flowers tulips
review Googlehole #2:
apple trees
apples Googlehole #3:
does anyone really want to download a whole book to read one paragraph? With indexing, there is no difference between a PDF of a book and a PDF of book chapters or an article.
Not affiliated with Google, but I hate to see people influenced by stupidity.
Along the same idea, take a favorite phrase and use the first letter of each. You don't need a long phrase since UNIX generally doesn't use more than 8 characters towards the encryption (e.g., "mashpotato" is the same as "mashpota"). Using the phrase "Now watch my fingers play across the keyboard" makes "nwmfpatk" which isn't going to break under dictionary attack. No pictures of squating Oompa Loompahs to remember, nor any need to reinvent login screens, and it's easy across both hands (yeah yeah "I hunt and peck, you insensitive clod!")
Actually, does the President even *have* to correspond with the people on issues? Isn't that what congressional representatives are supposedly for? We elect the President for overall policy every four years and the congressional representatives are our fine tuning in between. It is Congress that speaks in our voice and passes the laws and the President either approves or knocks them down based on the ideas we elected him for. The President then answers for actions and plans once a year in the State of the Union speech.
splatterpants writes "The New York Times online ran an article yesterday titled Picking up the Lumps that talks about new technology that can recover information from shredded documents that have been eaten in milk. Not only can companies scan strip-shredded paper and recover the information, they can do the same with cross-shredded paper from people with anything from diarrhea to Wheaties bricks. It comes at a price though - one company charges $80,000-$100,000 to "reconstruct" the information in a cubic foot of cross-shredded "fecal material". How's it done? The lumps are collected from the sewage and then glued onto a piece of paper and then scanned. Software then looks for matches (in one case using the pattern of ink at the edges of the clumps) and suggests possible combinations to the operator that can be accepted or rejected. Says scanner operator Mike Crapper, 'The worse thing about the job is getting a hole in the environmental suit. Who can eat lunch after somethinglike that?'"
Slackware 0.99blahblah was my first Linux. I had two boxes of 50 floppies that I spent hours downloading and copying at a computer lab at school. All of that fit onto one of the two 100MB partitions on my 200MB disk (the other had Windows 3.0). I still have the boot floppy and every once in a while I pull out the boot floppy to see if it can boot on new hardware. Still works on most!
So then you want to control, manage, and manipulate any intrusions and thus something like a breakin checklist http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=71378&cid=6458 546 would be useful. You want to be able to throw up a barrier at each step of the way and perform rear guard duty on such an assault.
Since it can take care of itself, you just lost your job to the system. Thus the system is no longer *yours*. That is the system the *company* wants. Sounds like what Sun is reaching for with N1 or one of its descendants.
For databases, I think the smart thing to do is just shut down operations. You don't want to act like you are making successful transactions since customers (paying or internal employees) would have to perform transactions again which can be worse than not having performed them yet.
I think the next step from intrusion-tolerance would be a system that logs intruder activity, determines how the intruder got in, and when the intruder leaves, cleans up whatever rootkits, etc. were left behind after logging everything it can about the event.
One way to do this is actually make a checklist of what one does in order not to get caught when gaining root access on a system:
Destroying log files and wtemp, disabling login services (telnet, rsh, rlogin, rexec, ssh) and serial/console ports after you've arrived and installing your own login daemon, knocking off all non-service users and their shells (vncservers too) so that no one can use an existing shell to fix things, blow away all cronjobs and atjobs. I imagine that you would leave any httpd's running so that you can go nyah nyah. And install a daemon (statically compiled, as you say) that will network scan and crack another system the same way. Many places have user systems trusting the admin systems so if you can get onto one admin system the rest of the network falls easier. If you're particularly destructive, the daemon can drop the network drivers once it has replicated and start blowing away files all over the system. Sure, one might have backups, but the target is looking at multiple bare-metal restores at that point.
Postmortem checklist: Things like logging through a serial port to a printer cannot be stopped since your login has already been logged to paper. You would want to take out routers on the way back out, but that's a whole different ball of wax and they have also left a breadcrumb trail of where you came from. No matter how you break in, you leave a trail for those that want to actively pursue. I understand that this is not always done unless there is actual serious monetary damages.
So how would the above solution deal with all that other than at the postmortem stage? You can add daemons that do cleanup, but just like BugBear and friends, newer versions of the worm would just have the cleanup services on their hitlist. Since the operating system's kernel would still have to be running for such a worm to work, the kernel would be untouched and could still have a chance to repond if it understood that the casade of changes and service deaths without an actual "shutdown" command were signs of impending doom. Centralizing this detection helps because the central system may not fall to the same problem yet still have a record that the system(s) screamed for help before they went down. *There* is where some real Intrusion Prevention can happen; the centralized server can begin shutting down network ports or the DMZ itself, can page admins, store relevant (event/sys)logs away with the intrusion alarm as a case file of the event.
So the idea is, have a vulnerability, get attacked, keep on trucking with the same vulnerability, continue to get pounded through the same vulnerability relentlessly by every script kiddie's scan, vendor never patches because we've all accepted that we can just live with the vulnerabilities, keep on suckin'?
From the MIT article, it sounds like some intelligence will shut some non-critical services down so that the core still runs, but isn't that what Intrusion Prevention is supposed to do? When you're talking military use, I expect the important areas to be surrounded by honeypots as part of the Intrusion Detection and Prevention.
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Sorry, but your love of the ditch digger and his simple product in no way increases its value in the eyes of society over the person who figures out how to dig new and better ditches. Right there you have the beginnings of a social heirarchy that takes away from the total equality you're pushing.
I do not take away from the ditch digger that his job is back breaking and demeaning, but he is doing a commodity job; you can replace him with any other ditch digger because they produce exactly the same product. There is no value in doing what everyone else is doing. Will you reward the one who plays "Happy birthday to you" for three hours to a packed stadium, or the one who dreams up a new tune? Society rewards newness and uniqueness; it is the person who thinks up new and better ditches that stands out and shines to be rewarded. How is someone who does mental work doing any less honest to goodness hard work than the guy throwing dirt around? Please take your communist crap elsewhere. Insightful my ass.
The premise is homes, cars, factories and offices store up hydrogen when energy is available, and supply it into the new energy network when it's not.
So does that mean the electric company will pay me when I generate power and put it into the grid? I believe that is the case now with solar and wind. In the distributed model, is there even an electric company other than someone who maintains the power lines? "In Soviet Russia electric company pays YOU!" I guess not.
Next time you are in the store, take a look at the cash register and see if it has a Win95 logo on it. I've seen a few. It lives yet!
This is a feature of good old smtpd in that you can edit all those responses. It even comes with some snappy example replies.
What is the difference between dividing time into discrete seconds and dividing it into sequential halves? It all seems artificial. Does the universe care about what a second is?
Why "most"? Are the few (the most destructive) from the 20th century that were caused by capitalism, communism, and plain old racism not enough? Blaming wars on religion is just a convenient excuse for crucifying Christians, beheading Bhuddist monks, burning Jews, and quartering Muslims because you don't like the wart on their face or the way they walk. There is usually something else not too much deeper if you care to look.
So, those were your helicopters today, eh? I wonder whose they were yesterday.
And I have to pay for this because telemarketers think it's their right to harrass me? The telemarketers are probably collecting your $80/month from the system they sold you to offset what they are losing when you don't buy anything from them. I don't understand how you find the situation acceptable enough to blow so much of your own money. It's that permissive attitude that lets them get away with it in the first place.
Yes, it's so easy to have to adjust your life to being a series of aliases just to accomodate some slimy telemarketers. Next, I'll make up a name for the newspaper boy in case I need to stiff him on payment for a few weeks. Then I'll make up a name for my gas card company...never know when they might call. Oh, and don't forget the neighbors...might not want to talk to them sometimes.
Yes, of course you use snapshots to facilitate backups, which is what Network Appliances does. Snapshots are just an easier way for users to pull their own data out of their butts when they delete it, leaving the tapes to suffer less wear and tear for the real restore emergencies.
Because it becomes obsolete and eventually unusably old technology even to the most diehard fans. Then, it is just space junk, succumbing to a cascade effect of breaking down into smaller and smaller (and faster and faster) pieces that pose a huge threat to manned travel. Orbital space needs to be cleaned up not filled up, thus satellites are now brought down one way or another.
A terror campaign through the office works wonders to convince people that Fscking around with your systems is not encouraged. I imagine that my hero, the BOFH, would do no different. You have your choice of chainsaw, stick with impaled head, or flamethrower.
I remember when we finally got the systems in a locked room at our current place. Someone tried to slip in the door behind me as I was rushing out. Turned around, slammed it shut as they about to step across, and told them "I don't f*cking think so." Guy never tried it again.
Famous last words. Please tell us what business you are in so we can avoid the products/services that will collapse without notice like a house of cards.
When you're talking about that much data, backups become something you're only going to pull out for catastrophic recovery. Something like snapshots become more and more important. Are any of the upcoming Linux filesystems going to address this? I imagine that something like that would begin to take customers away from EMC and Network Appliance, and would put high reliability in the hands of smaller organizations.
That's why you have to pick a phrase that only you would know, or even twist a common phrase.
i tesearch?filter=col100&query=*&submit=Go ...easily parsed by looking between the keys QUOTATION and ATTRIBUTION.
As for Bartlett...
10484 results in this search...
http://www.bartleby.com/cgi-bin/texis/webinator/s
What a bunch of nonsense that article is. It only covers brain dead web surfers who are too stupid to qualify their searches properly. GIGO, people! I blame Jeeves which made everyone thing that the search box had to be a single statement rather than a set of individual keywords.
proper searches:
Googlehole #1:
flowers -florists
flowers gardening
flowers tulips
review
Googlehole #2:
apple trees
apples
Googlehole #3:
does anyone really want to download a whole book to read one paragraph? With indexing, there is no difference between a PDF of a book and a PDF of book chapters or an article.
Not affiliated with Google, but I hate to see people influenced by stupidity.
Along the same idea, take a favorite phrase and use the first letter of each. You don't need a long phrase since UNIX generally doesn't use more than 8 characters towards the encryption (e.g., "mashpotato" is the same as "mashpota"). Using the phrase "Now watch my fingers play across the keyboard" makes "nwmfpatk" which isn't going to break under dictionary attack. No pictures of squating Oompa Loompahs to remember, nor any need to reinvent login screens, and it's easy across both hands (yeah yeah "I hunt and peck, you insensitive clod!")
Actually, does the President even *have* to correspond with the people on issues? Isn't that what congressional representatives are supposedly for? We elect the President for overall policy every four years and the congressional representatives are our fine tuning in between. It is Congress that speaks in our voice and passes the laws and the President either approves or knocks them down based on the ideas we elected him for. The President then answers for actions and plans once a year in the State of the Union speech.
splatterpants writes "The New York Times online ran an article yesterday titled Picking up the Lumps that talks about new technology that can recover information from shredded documents that have been eaten in milk. Not only can companies scan strip-shredded paper and recover the information, they can do the same with cross-shredded paper from people with anything from diarrhea to Wheaties bricks. It comes at a price though - one company charges $80,000-$100,000 to "reconstruct" the information in a cubic foot of cross-shredded "fecal material". How's it done? The lumps are collected from the sewage and then glued onto a piece of paper and then scanned. Software then looks for matches (in one case using the pattern of ink at the edges of the clumps) and suggests possible combinations to the operator that can be accepted or rejected. Says scanner operator Mike Crapper, 'The worse thing about the job is getting a hole in the environmental suit. Who can eat lunch after somethinglike that?'"
Slackware 0.99blahblah was my first Linux. I had two boxes of 50 floppies that I spent hours downloading and copying at a computer lab at school. All of that fit onto one of the two 100MB partitions on my 200MB disk (the other had Windows 3.0). I still have the boot floppy and every once in a while I pull out the boot floppy to see if it can boot on new hardware. Still works on most!
So then you want to control, manage, and manipulate any intrusions and thus something like a breakin checklist http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=71378&cid=6458 546 would be useful. You want to be able to throw up a barrier at each step of the way and perform rear guard duty on such an assault.
Since it can take care of itself, you just lost your job to the system. Thus the system is no longer *yours*. That is the system the *company* wants. Sounds like what Sun is reaching for with N1 or one of its descendants.
For databases, I think the smart thing to do is just shut down operations. You don't want to act like you are making successful transactions since customers (paying or internal employees) would have to perform transactions again which can be worse than not having performed them yet.
I think the next step from intrusion-tolerance would be a system that logs intruder activity, determines how the intruder got in, and when the intruder leaves, cleans up whatever rootkits, etc. were left behind after logging everything it can about the event.
One way to do this is actually make a checklist of what one does in order not to get caught when gaining root access on a system:
Destroying log files and wtemp, disabling login services (telnet, rsh, rlogin, rexec, ssh) and serial/console ports after you've arrived and installing your own login daemon, knocking off all non-service users and their shells (vncservers too) so that no one can use an existing shell to fix things, blow away all cronjobs and atjobs. I imagine that you would leave any httpd's running so that you can go nyah nyah. And install a daemon (statically compiled, as you say) that will network scan and crack another system the same way. Many places have user systems trusting the admin systems so if you can get onto one admin system the rest of the network falls easier. If you're particularly destructive, the daemon can drop the network drivers once it has replicated and start blowing away files all over the system. Sure, one might have backups, but the target is looking at multiple bare-metal restores at that point.
Postmortem checklist:
Things like logging through a serial port to a printer cannot be stopped since your login has already been logged to paper. You would want to take out routers on the way back out, but that's a whole different ball of wax and they have also left a breadcrumb trail of where you came from. No matter how you break in, you leave a trail for those that want to actively pursue. I understand that this is not always done unless there is actual serious monetary damages.
So how would the above solution deal with all that other than at the postmortem stage? You can add daemons that do cleanup, but just like BugBear and friends, newer versions of the worm would just have the cleanup services on their hitlist. Since the operating system's kernel would still have to be running for such a worm to work, the kernel would be untouched and could still have a chance to repond if it understood that the casade of changes and service deaths without an actual "shutdown" command were signs of impending doom. Centralizing this detection helps because the central system may not fall to the same problem yet still have a record that the system(s) screamed for help before they went down. *There* is where some real Intrusion Prevention can happen; the centralized server can begin shutting down network ports or the DMZ itself, can page admins, store relevant (event/sys)logs away with the intrusion alarm as a case file of the event.
So the idea is, have a vulnerability, get attacked, keep on trucking with the same vulnerability, continue to get pounded through the same vulnerability relentlessly by every script kiddie's scan, vendor never patches because we've all accepted that we can just live with the vulnerabilities, keep on suckin'?
From the MIT article, it sounds like some intelligence will shut some non-critical services down so that the core still runs, but isn't that what Intrusion Prevention is supposed to do? When you're talking military use, I expect the important areas to be surrounded by honeypots as part of the Intrusion Detection and Prevention.