The community at large isn't interested in Fedora. That is why redhat is paying Taco and Co. $$$$ to pretend there is a ton of interest. Hence articles about redhat on the front page every day.
I'm not advocating the death penalty for the people who both worked on the theme and those in charge of Firefox who decided to switch to it, but obviously they have no artistic ability or taste.
If anything, it is uglier than the default theme that comes with Windows XP. The triangular buttons for Back and Forward remind me of the old Motif widgets. It looks like they were drawn using MS Paint. Heheh can anything good be said about it?
I installed the old Qute theme but now all the icons on the toolbar are corrupted.:( Gah I take it back -- Firefox heathens, burn in hell for your sins!! I want the old default theme back!
You are a liar and calling me a troll doesn't change anything.
In fact when you get called on your lies you start insulting my mother, my face, and bragging about your massive slashdot epenis regarding your modifier points???
What do you want for free? I don't remember anyone charging me for FC2, but I do remember 20+ lockups a week on a NT4.0 machine. I paid handsomely for that abuse.
That isn't apples to apples. I dual booted Redhat 3.0 and NT 4.0 back in the day. Day and night. Redhat 3.0 was the most unstable OS I've ever had the mis-pleasure of running. At the time NT4 was the most stable OS x86 had seen so far.
Apps would silently disappear (crash) under Redhat. No line in/var/log/messages either. It created a myth of stability because there never was any evidence to the contrary. The X server would lockup all the time but you could telnet into the box and issue a shutdown. Good times for sure, but stable? Nah.
Don't compare modern linux to NT4 -- compare it to the relevant Redhat of the era which is Redhat 3.0. I don't like NT much but Redhat of the NT era was crap.
Fedora Core 2, as is Gnome 2.6, has an intended audience. These are first-time users of Linux in Enterprise settings. ... For enterprise users, I think FC2 is a great candidate.
Bzzzzzt. No Enterprise is going to use Fedora core. Enterprise distros are Redhat *Enterprise* Linux and SuSE. That's it. Enterprises are big $$$ and aren't wasting time with crappy free distributions.
I don't understand why Fedora has all these ultra zealots who think it is the one and only solution for everything linux?
If you take a step back and analyze what is going on (and Redhat is even saying this), you'd realize that Fedora is the testbed for Redhat Enterprise linux. Redhat is making the Fedora community test their Enterprise product. So you get a fairly leading edge distro and where there are potential bugs, they are put front and centre so they can be identified and squashed for their Enterprise product.
Fedora core user == Redhat Linux Enterprise beta tester
As a professional software developer, I know a lot of people in the industry.
I don't know *anyone* who is using Fedora.
I don't know *anyone* who wants to use Fedora.
So who exactaly are these people who are using it? Who are these people who are advocating Fedora? Why in real life are they nowhere to be found?
Time to put on your tinfoil hats. Redhat is Astroturfing a huge community behind Fedora. Seriously! Fedora is stillborn but hyped by a few people as if its the next messiah of OSes.
Well sorry Redhat, I ain't falling for it! Seems you have tricked plenty of suckers though. Hopefully I can educate a few of them here.
For those of you who don't know what Astroturfing is, it is faking a grass roots movement.
This is a guide for Reviewers writing up a review the various distros:
Redhat: concentrate on how Redhat is becoming the Redmond of the linux world. Don't bother mentioning the massive contributions Redhat has made to open source software and linux.
Gentoo: concentrate on the long compile times needed to install this distro from stage 1. Write up a paragraph of lame jokes about said long build times and forget to mention this distro supports binary packages.
Mandrake: concentrate on how this distro is good for desktop installs. Then get all negative on how it installs far too many packages. Conclude that the recent monetary troubles make this a distro to pass.
Debian: concentrate on how out of date all its packages are. Briefly mention its great stability, the unstable trees, apt-get, the resistance of adding non-free packages into the base distro.
SuSE: concentrate on how this distros HQ is in Europe, like its some kind of revalation. Mention there is no downside to this distro and conclude that its only good for non-North American users.
Slackware: concentrate on the well laid out and trim system a Slack install is. Drop a bogus made up claim about how Slackware was the original distro the author installed and ran it for years before migrating to distro X.
... (yes, I'm talking about YOU spoolsv.exe, you 3.98MB hog!), you might as well shove them into the swap file.
Code is never put into the swap file. There is no reason as it already exists in the.EXEcutable image.
When the program resumes execution, if the code page isn't already in RAM it just reloads it from the.exe (or.dll etc) file. A bit simplified, but the point is that "swapping out" is expensive and there is no reason to swap out code.
In the end, I have never ever seen a Windows-system without a partially swapped kernel, even with tons of free RAM available.
Not a problem actually, that permanantly swapped kernel "Nonpaged" is support for 16 bit APIs, OS/2, POSIX and other stuff that you will never ever use.
And it isn't really swapped either, as it isn't data. Swapped pages are data only, code pages are overwritten and just paged in again when needed.
Re:The reasons gentoo will never go enterprise
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How the hell did this crap post get modded up? A quick analysis of your points:
identical binaries...
FUD FUD FUD Gentoo supports binary packages. emerge -k <package>
patches...
Yes security fixes are backported. You don't have to run Apache2, Apache1 is supported, etc.
vendor support...
Vendor support for what? Mysql? Postgres?
CPU time is valuable...
Seems like a big big win for Gentoo in this area. Architecture specific optimizations make Gentoo the most efficient linux distro. And note that the use of binary packages (see first item) avoids compiling packages on each server.
We'd rather spend our money elsewhere...
Whatever, the only money you have to spend is whats in your own pocket. Don't try to tell me you're in charge of decision making and purchasing for a large enterprise or some other BS cause it ain't gonna fly.
What do I mean? Well, after the initial install the distro could start to compile the optimised packages with a preset set of flags and "replace" the existing pre-compiled binaries as it finishes the optimisations.
This is *exactaly* how I always install Gentoo (done a dozen+ servers now). Install from stage3 and then recompile the system with optimized CFLAGS (--emptytree option).
Someone else already had your idea and implemented it!
And yes portage builds in the background with customizable nice level too.
I play games like UT2004 on it.
I have firmwear-based drivers and closed source Nvidia drivers for it.
I run Kernel 2.6.5 on it.
I run Gnome 2.6 on it.
Dude, running that kernel and apps means you aren't running Debian, you're running Frakenlinux!
Joking aside, it's true. Debian means old and stable - seriously. If you're running the latest stuff, it ain't Debian anymore.
Hopefully this fork will have a nicer dev team than plain Gaim. At the URL below you can see how the Gaim lead introduces himself to the Gentoo dev team by insulting Gentoo users and basically making an ass of himself. It goes something like:
As Gentoo users are generally an annoying nusiance in my IRC channel...
When used with a real-time SPAM filter, this approach allows Postfix to reject mail before the SMTP mail transfer completes, so that Postfix does not have to return rejected mail to the sender. Mail that is not accepted remains the responsibility of the client.
Sounds like Wietse Venema is a fool -- all this does is cause the remote SMTP server (when there is one) to bounce the spam to some innocent person. This is what is known as a "Joe job". Poor Joe gets 10000000 bounces in his mailbox. A real mess to clean up, it happened to me.:(
Spams and mass mailing viruses should be discarded. Rejecting email is for people who don't understand SMTP, namely because it doesn't do what you think it does (go back to the sender).
In addition, table games have a higher "hold percentage" than slots, the percentage of money won that is retained by the casino.
While blackjack and craps each held about 13 percent of the win last year, other table games held from 21 to 25 percent of their revenues. Slots, by contrast, held about 5.4 percent of the total amount won.
Your understanding is wrong. I'm a licensed dealer -- I've worked on the inside! I've seen guys like you lose fortunes; some days it made me feel like crap, and others it made me laugh my ass off.
Table games make plenty of money. Some dumbass sitting in front of a slot plugging quarters into it constantly makes constant money, but it isn't a lot (even if you could put $100 worth of quaraters into a slot every hour constantly, $100/hour is chicken feed) Table games are where the big money is.
Is the table down (losing money) for the shift? Better leave, because the pit boss gets in trouble when this happens, so he will lean on the dealers to raise some cash for the table.
Bzzzt. Wrong. The job of the pitboss is to make sure that no laws are being broken and to verify that large payouts are correct. If a table isn't making money, rest assured that the one beside it is making double.
Actually, your whole comment is complete BS! Nice work on the moderation +Informative when it is all lies...
In Canadian casinos there is a "00" also (double zero). So the odds are 18/38 to win or slightly less than 50/50 which is 18/36. (there are 18 black and 18 red numbers, and 2 green (0 and 00))
As a licensed (formerly) dealer, let me say that there are no games where the house loses. Whoever said Blackjack was 50/50 is a fool; that game has some of the worst odds of all casino games. People winning big at Blackjack is a myth -- the house wins big.
And don't get me started on these new video Slots -- it doesn't take a great computer programmer to make sure that the machine *never* loses money. At least in the old days with the mechnical machinary there was something to it, but these days its a computer program! I can't believe that people are so dumb.
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Redhat continues the astroturf campaign!
The community at large isn't interested in Fedora. That is why redhat is paying Taco and Co. $$$$ to pretend there is a ton of interest. Hence articles about redhat on the front page every day.
That my friends, is astroturfing.
Redhat is all about astroturfing these days. Redhat enterprise server which costs $$$$$$ is the most common server OS?
Sorry but I don't believe it. Only the weak have been fooled!
Man does it ever look fugly!!!
:( Gah I take it back -- Firefox heathens, burn in hell for your sins!! I want the old default theme back!
I'm not advocating the death penalty for the people who both worked on the theme and those in charge of Firefox who decided to switch to it, but obviously they have no artistic ability or taste.
If anything, it is uglier than the default theme that comes with Windows XP. The triangular buttons for Back and Forward remind me of the old Motif widgets. It looks like they were drawn using MS Paint. Heheh can anything good be said about it?
I installed the old Qute theme but now all the icons on the toolbar are corrupted.
You are a liar and calling me a troll doesn't change anything.
In fact when you get called on your lies you start insulting my mother, my face, and bragging about your massive slashdot epenis regarding your modifier points???
WTF? You have no credibility.
Lemme guess. You didn't try to compile it on anything so that makes "It compiles fine on everything I tried." a true statement.
slashdot logic triumphs no doubt. But in the end you are clueless or lying.
That isn't apples to apples. I dual booted Redhat 3.0 and NT 4.0 back in the day. Day and night. Redhat 3.0 was the most unstable OS I've ever had the mis-pleasure of running. At the time NT4 was the most stable OS x86 had seen so far.
Apps would silently disappear (crash) under Redhat. No line in /var/log/messages either. It created a myth of stability because there never was any evidence to the contrary. The X server would lockup all the time but you could telnet into the box and issue a shutdown. Good times for sure, but stable? Nah.
Don't compare modern linux to NT4 -- compare it to the relevant Redhat of the era which is Redhat 3.0. I don't like NT much but Redhat of the NT era was crap.
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For enterprise users, I think FC2 is a great candidate.
Bzzzzzt. No Enterprise is going to use Fedora core. Enterprise distros are Redhat *Enterprise* Linux and SuSE. That's it. Enterprises are big $$$ and aren't wasting time with crappy free distributions.
I don't understand why Fedora has all these ultra zealots who think it is the one and only solution for everything linux?
If you take a step back and analyze what is going on (and Redhat is even saying this), you'd realize that Fedora is the testbed for Redhat Enterprise linux. Redhat is making the Fedora community test their Enterprise product. So you get a fairly leading edge distro and where there are potential bugs, they are put front and centre so they can be identified and squashed for their Enterprise product.
Fedora core user == Redhat Linux Enterprise beta tester
Your idea has a fatal flaw. Almost all mailing list traffic would be rejected under your scheme (ie LKML, p5p, Parrot, etc)
Your idea should be marked at -1 stupid.
Rejecting spams potentially creates a bounce message which is just joe-jobbing some innocent 3rd party.
If you don't know what joejobbing is, it is when someone gets 100,000 bounces from a spam run because people thought it was l33t to rejects spams.
NewsFlash! Rejecting spams is a dumb idea.
This is a dead serious comment.
/.?
Whats with all the talk about Fedora on
As a professional software developer, I know a lot of people in the industry.
I don't know *anyone* who is using Fedora.
I don't know *anyone* who wants to use Fedora.
So who exactaly are these people who are using it? Who are these people who are advocating Fedora? Why in real life are they nowhere to be found?
Time to put on your tinfoil hats. Redhat is Astroturfing a huge community behind Fedora. Seriously! Fedora is stillborn but hyped by a few people as if its the next messiah of OSes.
Well sorry Redhat, I ain't falling for it! Seems you have tricked plenty of suckers though. Hopefully I can educate a few of them here.
For those of you who don't know what Astroturfing is, it is faking a grass roots movement.
This is a guide for Reviewers writing up a review the various distros:
Redhat: concentrate on how Redhat is becoming the Redmond of the linux world. Don't bother mentioning the massive contributions Redhat has made to open source software and linux.
Gentoo: concentrate on the long compile times needed to install this distro from stage 1. Write up a paragraph of lame jokes about said long build times and forget to mention this distro supports binary packages.
Mandrake: concentrate on how this distro is good for desktop installs. Then get all negative on how it installs far too many packages. Conclude that the recent monetary troubles make this a distro to pass.
Debian: concentrate on how out of date all its packages are. Briefly mention its great stability, the unstable trees, apt-get, the resistance of adding non-free packages into the base distro.
SuSE: concentrate on how this distros HQ is in Europe, like its some kind of revalation. Mention there is no downside to this distro and conclude that its only good for non-North American users.
Slackware: concentrate on the well laid out and trim system a Slack install is. Drop a bogus made up claim about how Slackware was the original distro the author installed and ran it for years before migrating to distro X.
Code is never put into the swap file. There is no reason as it already exists in the .EXEcutable image.
When the program resumes execution, if the code page isn't already in RAM it just reloads it from the .exe (or .dll etc) file. A bit simplified, but the point is that "swapping out" is expensive and there is no reason to swap out code.
Not a problem actually, that permanantly swapped kernel "Nonpaged" is support for 16 bit APIs, OS/2, POSIX and other stuff that you will never ever use.
And it isn't really swapped either, as it isn't data. Swapped pages are data only, code pages are overwritten and just paged in again when needed.
Thanks for coming out! </flame>
This is *exactaly* how I always install Gentoo (done a dozen+ servers now). Install from stage3 and then recompile the system with optimized CFLAGS (--emptytree option).
Someone else already had your idea and implemented it!
And yes portage builds in the background with customizable nice level too.
Joking aside, it's true. Debian means old and stable - seriously. If you're running the latest stuff, it ain't Debian anymore.
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35890
Best that could be expected from an AOL employee I guess!
Spams and mass mailing viruses should be discarded. Rejecting email is for people who don't understand SMTP, namely because it doesn't do what you think it does (go back to the sender).
Your link says:
In addition, table games have a higher "hold percentage" than slots, the percentage of money won that is retained by the casino. While blackjack and craps each held about 13 percent of the win last year, other table games held from 21 to 25 percent of their revenues. Slots, by contrast, held about 5.4 percent of the total amount won.
From what I understand, ...
Your understanding is wrong. I'm a licensed dealer -- I've worked on the inside! I've seen guys like you lose fortunes; some days it made me feel like crap, and others it made me laugh my ass off.
Table games make plenty of money. Some dumbass sitting in front of a slot plugging quarters into it constantly makes constant money, but it isn't a lot (even if you could put $100 worth of quaraters into a slot every hour constantly, $100/hour is chicken feed) Table games are where the big money is.
Is the table down (losing money) for the shift? Better leave, because the pit boss gets in trouble when this happens, so he will lean on the dealers to raise some cash for the table.
Bzzzt. Wrong. The job of the pitboss is to make sure that no laws are being broken and to verify that large payouts are correct. If a table isn't making money, rest assured that the one beside it is making double.
Actually, your whole comment is complete BS! Nice work on the moderation +Informative when it is all lies...
In Canadian casinos there is a "00" also (double zero). So the odds are 18/38 to win or slightly less than 50/50 which is 18/36. (there are 18 black and 18 red numbers, and 2 green (0 and 00))
As a licensed (formerly) dealer, let me say that there are no games where the house loses. Whoever said Blackjack was 50/50 is a fool; that game has some of the worst odds of all casino games. People winning big at Blackjack is a myth -- the house wins big.
And don't get me started on these new video Slots -- it doesn't take a great computer programmer to make sure that the machine *never* loses money. At least in the old days with the mechnical machinary there was something to it, but these days its a computer program! I can't believe that people are so dumb.
Before I ran linux, I used Windows at home. All software on the machine was copied from friends.
:)
Before Windows, I used MSDOS. I never bought MSDOS.
Before PCs, I had a Commodore 64. Guess what, I never bought any software for that one either.
Nobody is interested in paying for software, least of all on a platform that is all about free-dom.
I'm not breaking the law anymore.
goddam it's still available!