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Mozilla Project Officially Releases Firefox 0.9
_xeno_ writes "The last release candidate was apparently good enough, because Mozilla Firefox 0.9 has now been officially released. New features since 0.8 are, of course, basically the same as in the Release Candidate, including the new Pinstripe theme for Windows and the GTK+ installer for Linux users. The biggest change since the Release Candidate is that this release should ask you to migrate your profile instead of just trashing it. So head over to the Firefox homepage and get downloading, or check out the Release Notes to find out exactly what's new."
mE123 adds "You can get it from plain old HTTP or from fancy new BitTorrent", and points out that (compared to 0.8), "this release includes tons of bug/stability fixes, a %3 speed up, a new theme and plugin management system, a new standard windows theme, and a smaller windows installer."
So what's the name-change going to be for this release?
The source tarball seems to be broken on the mirrors (two bad bzip2 checksums from seperate mirrors), so no ebuilds for Gentoo and no luck for anyone using any arch not on the binaries list.
I wrote a website that displays 250 or more favicon.ico website icons at a time, and the difference in loading speed/rendering quality between Firefox and MSIE is amazing. The icons are small, but each is loaded from a different website around the world, so it is a good test of loading speed for many small items. It's ironic that the icons are usually of type "microsoft icon resource" and MSIE fails to display more than half of them.
If you have Firefox, make sure to get the Linky plugin (I'm not responsible for that one, but it is a very useful plugin) if you like to open multiple links at once from a given webpage.
It's working great, but STILL doesn't have an application in Windows 98. Am I the only person who really cares about this? (I know they say it'll be fixed for 1.0, but still...) It just looks unprofessional to have a little Windows icon there.
- Allen Pike
Altering time, one time at a time.
Yet Another Dupe?
Shame that Slashdot missed covering the new release of Opera 7.5, another excellent web browser.
Release 0.9 looks pretty good so far. The new default theme looks spiffy, and basic functionality seems to be improved (rendering/loading is a tad faster, in my opinion). I also really like the extensions manager.
The one flaw I've noticed so far, though, is that the extensions options frame is a little buggy. When I finish modifying one extension and go to load up the preferences from another, the extension I just finished modifying pops up. If I go back and load the new extension prefs again, everything is fine. It's nothing major... just a little something that could be fixed for the big 1.0.
So the story this morning (that was pulled) and the one yesterday weren't enough? What's going on??
It killed off my bookmarks, so you have been warned.
"An infinite number of monkeys typing into GNU emacs would never make a good program."
This is like April Fools Day all over again! What fun! ;)
The two previous articles were both talking about the release candidate, not the actual 0.9 release, which just came out today.
If my answers frighten you, stop asking scary questions.
On why should anyone upgrade to 0.9?
The icons on the bookmark tabs disappeared in 0.7. That didnt get fixed in 0.8, the icons are still disappearing in 0.9.
If the Internet connection goes down, the page loses the address it was trying to load. And is never able to retrieve it when the connection comes back up.
Should have been fixed in 0.7, still there.
JavaScript code parses switch statements incorrectly. Who wants to guess what Firefox shows for this simple snippet?
var a = 10;
a = 9;
var b = 10;
switch(b)
{
case a:
alert('got it');
break;
default:
alert('passed');
}
Why do they bother wasting screen real estate?
I'm migrating from .8 to .9 and the speed increase feels much more dramatic.
It's gotta be the links. There are a lot! If it's the shoes for Michael Jordan.. It's gotta be the links on /.
Hmmm.
So it s not just my computer. Interesting. I would have thought some one would have looked into that. I guess were just lucky it works at all.
Well.. maybe. Or Maybe not. But Definitely not sort of.
Hmm... on mine the User Agent string still says Firefox/0.8. Anybody else see this?
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040614 Firefox/0.8
Recently, I started using Firefox on my PC because of its similarity to Safari. Has anyone else noticed this?
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For those of you using Adblock with Firefox under Windows and find it missing after the upgrade, here's what I did to fix it.
Check the new Extensions manager under Tools and see if it's there. If it is, uninstall it from that window.
Close Firefox and use Explorer or whatever to browse to "\Documents and Settings\\Application Data\Mozilla\FireFox\profile.3hd\Extensions" on your system drive.
Now you have to figure out which of these obscurely named subdirectories is Adblock. You can use Notepad or some other text editer to open "Extensions.rdf" and see. This string may be the same on all systems, if so, I'm sure someone can post it. Once you know which directory Adblock is still hiding in, delete it. Now go and install the AdBlock nightly from here: http://adblock.mozdev.org/dev.html
That took care of it on my systems. YMMV, as always.
End of lesson. You may press the button.
The new theme is butt ugly.
/. homepage, I'll get a message like "the page / cannot be found" or some shit. Donno if it's the cache barfing or what. It's sporatic, but annoying as hell.
I sure hope they fixed the bugs. Every once in awhile it'll stop resolving pages.
Like if I did a "back" to return to the
I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!!!!
FYI, One Tree Hill is a suburb in Auckland, New Zealand. And apparently a couple of the code names are based on other suburbs nearby.
Rock that crushes, Paper & Scissors that don't matter.
Extensions
Themes
Keep in mind that the packaging requirements changed for this release, so not all of your old favorites are 0.9 compatible (yet).
If you want the old 0.8 theme back, you can find it here: Qute
Check this out if you're so concerned. It's easy. It'll fix the icon spacing.
They really need a proper pagerank feature in the moz googlebar. There was a recent hack to googlebar that showed pagerank for a page by querying a central server which returned a gif image. That doesn't work so well and is really slow.
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Who gets issues with Slashdot and Firefox. In that the main area of the page overlaps strangely with the menu area on the left.
/. html ??
It occurs some of the time, not all of the time.
Poor
any chances of it being updated to work with 0.9?
"Empathise with stupidity, and you're halfway to thinking like an idiot." - Iain M. Banks
I like it. I've downloaded some extensions, and it seems everthing is in order. The search integration option makes things nice also.
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$>Segmentation fault (core dumped)
It does seem snappier, even on dial-up. All around better.
To get back the good old Qute theme from 0.8:
;)
Right click this link and select "Copy Link Location."
Then left click here, paste the link into the "Remote URL" box on the right, and click Install.
Ahh... feels like home again
The unofficial
The link provided on /. has to be copy pasted;? id=231995
/. crew., the click on link shows a "Sorry, links to Bugzilla from Slashdot are disabled" message...
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi
Good to see that the message "(Use the Preview Button! Check those URLs!)" is neither used by either the poster or the
One that page, the part convering the speedup thing:
2) more importantly though, MSVC just generates better code. take a look at
codesize totals for example: linux seamonkey went from 21148 to 20196, and win32
seamonkey went from 13101 to 12821. so, that's a 4.5% savings on linux and a
2.1% savings on win32.
Yes, I know a bit down the text 2-3% is mentioned, I do RTFA, but it shows as much 'substantial' evidence as todays 'Java faster than C++' article.
"Sorry, links to Bugzilla from Slashdot are disabled."
The smartest thing I have heard all day.
Firefox is the best imho for multi platform browsers. Very small-footprint, fast, versatile
I use Firefox exclusively here, and it's great. I use it on Solaris/U2, Slackware/P3, OpenBSD/P2, Slackware/K6. It seems to fly on X Terminals/Thin-clients. Multimedia is handle well too, imho.
I look forward to trying 0.9. I'd have to say that for an 0.X release of software, it works like a 2.X release =)
Stop the spread of IE.
I cleared all my bookmarks upgrading a previous version, after reading rave reviews about reimporting old bookmarks (appearently on Windows).
Before I update from 0.9RC to 0.9, is there a way to save bookmarks? Perhaps as an HTML file?
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Left-side menu and main area overlap. Strangely, it doesn't happen 100% of the time. Have the same problem in regular Mozilla, too. Of course I.E. displays it properly all the time. There are two conclusions to draw from this:
1. Slashdot is written for Internet Explorer.
2. Mozilla is shit.
I've never run into similar problems on any other website with Mozilla, so logically I would have to conclude that we are dealing with the first case. Somehow that doesn't surprise me.
Michael already duped a story that was still on the front page earlier today. I imagine yet another dupe (YES, Firefox 0.9 was released earlier, it wasn't just a Release Candidate despite all those false posts that downloaded the wrong file) of a story still on the front page would have been too embarrassing.
I see the release name for FireFox 0.8 is Royal Oak, also an Auckland suburb.
Is this just a coincidence or is there some connection between the Firebird project and Auckland , New Zealand?
A definitely much needed arrival. I have been waiting for a while as i have found mozilla firefox 0.8 slightly buggy. I expect they have fixed them and YAY! for all the upgrades! Feeling extatic about the new arrival and hopefully better version.
You know, I could almost grow to like tabs if you didn't have to have such precision with the mouse to choose one (I know you can use the keyboard to flip between them). The huge thing I like about my taskbar is that I can throw the mouse to the bottom of the screen and it will be over a button. Has anyone, by any chance, made a firefox extension that "grabs" the mouse when it hits the tab bar to make it easier to target them?
I don't think I'll stop using Konqueror any time soon (I don't have any reason to), but I figure I may as well play around with new stuff.
That was an amazingly quick RC turnover. Mozilla knows how to keep the impatient on their toes! :)
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I downloaded the new win32 version, installed and launched. Everything seemed to work very well. I added the mostly crystal theme and a few extensions, (Google, TabCloseUndo, AdBlock, some others) .. and now when I launch I get Finishing Extension Install .. its been hung for about 30 minutes now. Killing it and restarting has the same affect. CPU / Mem on the box are low, with the Firefox PID consuming 0cpu and 12056K mem. The memory is not growing. In fact, IO reads/writes, threads objects all do not move.
Soo.. why is this better than 0.8 ?
Using it now, and it's waaaay faster and more reliable than 0.8. No more reloading poorly rendered Slashdot pages!
If you think the new theme is a step backwards, you can get the old theme back by going to the designer's site.
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This browser, firefox .9 is amazing, I just switched , i've been in a quite a fix to find a decide browser and this just took over the position konqueror held
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--The new default theme...well, I'm in the "damn, that's ugly" camp. I went to Tools -> Themes -> Get More Themes to download Qute, and was taken to Mozilla Update, where there was a link to "install Qute now." I did that but it didn't work. I ended up having to manually download the .jar file and use the theme installer on texturizer.net to get Qute working--It seems like something's broken here, I dunno. Anyone else had a similar experience?
--FF's interface seems a bit snappier now, as well--it doesn't slow down a ton with multiple tabs open. It remains to be seen whether it still has 0.8's nasty memory leaks, though.
--I wonder if anyone else has noticed this: the menus now are rendered a little bit...differently. They no longer look as "Windows native" as they used to, and now resemble Mozilla 1.5 on my Debian machine. I wonder if this was done for cross-platform compatibility (So FF doesn't look as out of place on Linux?)
Overall, though, I'm quite pleased with the new FF's performance. It's a bit of a pain to go around and re-obtain all your extensions and such, but once you get it set up, it works very well. Great job Mozilla dev team!
Why does the linux installer ask me to close
all my Windows programs before continuing ?
Are you talking about the mac or the widows version. I wonder why the mac version if 4.7 Mb while the mac version is 8.6 Mb. both incredibly small but why the difference? Does the mac one implement other features (say ftp?)
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
These threads were created to show which have been updated to work with .9:
.9 extensions
.9 themes
...You'll regret it if you don't
The Bigger Picture is a nice concise yet detailed list of things changed in this version.
Safari loads the 250 icon is serial order one at a time. Firefox loads icons in batches of i'd guess about 8 at a time and in no particular order. it must be five or ten times faster than safari. I wonder what is going on?
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
If you have more than one profile set up for Mozilla don't auto-migrate the profile settings. It wiped my other profiles out. Anybody else have this happen? There is no way to recover unless you have a backup. So backup those settings before you install.
Everything's fine until it loads for the first time, when it says it's installing extensions. I leave it be for a while, but it's obviously not actually doing anything - no CPU cycles used etc. So I shut down the process, and load it again. Gives me an XML error. Try again, works but didn't port my bookmarks/settings and some of the buttons are missing (ie, the credits in help->about).
Needless to say I trashed it and reinstalled my 0.8 nightly. Maybe when it hits 1.0 I'll check it out again, but for me it's pretty unusable, and my system isn't anything special or out of the ordinary.
The thing I miss the most from the Mozilla is the ability to type something to search directly in the address bar press the down arrow (selecting: search google for...) then [enter]... No need to add another space wasting thingy just for searches.
... Then again, just check MSIE, they are at 6.x and they still can't get everything right, hehehe
/dev/null...
Sorry but I really can't get over it, I loved that feature. I was using it all the time...
Also, I still have some rendering problems with slashdot, sometimes the page renders on two side-to-side pages, very weird, it's happening right now, when I click preview, I have to scroll right to see the preview and the post comment boxes, all the rest is at the left, very weird...
Well, we're still under 1.0
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Old extensions and themes are going to be broken so you're going to have to make a new profile and install new versions. Here are the extensions and themes that have been updated.
I tried to put the list in here since MozillaZine always gets /.ed, but it wouldn't make it past the filter.
1) 0.9 RC trashed my profile. Yeah, 0.9 final migrates, but hey, now that my profile is ALREADY gone, it's too late, now isn't it? 0.9 RC should have at least offered to back up my profile for future use.
2) Pinstripe is quite ugly. I much prefer Qute, and think the Mozilla folks must be stoned to ditch Qute for Pinstripe. I will certainly be reverting back to Qute.
3) They removed the theme on the download manager. It used to be nice and themed, now it is all solid colours. This may be Pinstripes fault, however, if the theme affects the download manager too.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a big Firefox supporter, and have converted numerous people. However, I simply think that several crucial mistakes were made in 0.9.
I downloaded from an http link. Now how can I check its integrity before I run the installer? I looked on the mozilla.org site and could only find checksums for Solaris.
I have been using Pheonix -> Firebird -> Firefox for a while now which much adore, but I am skepitcal of this release. I do not like the new theme so much but changing to small icons is better.
I not so sure about this new "Software Update" section under Tools -> Options -> Advance.
"Periodically check for updates"? No thanks.
"Allow websites to install software"? Is this now another IE? No thanks. Well, maybe it's much more secure.
"Select new tabs opened from links" What does that mean? Oh, I think it was the old "Open new tabs in the background" option which was more intuitive.
Well that's just what I see on the front end so far. As long as they fixed some of the bugs, like "the page / can not be found" when hittting the back button. I also hope mouse over text for the tabs no longer gets in my way of pressing a tab. I have seen many websites freeze the browser which is very annoying, so hopefully those bugs are fixed to.
There is no new plugin management system but a new EXTENSION management system.
Is it just me or is the Google bar broken in OS X? Running 10.2.8.
maybe it's time to update
If only there were an extention to block sound in Flash animations.
just click on the 3%-speed-increase link in the original post...
Eye candy and a whopping 3% improvement make it onto the big feature list.
Engineering is the art of compromise.
IE is hardly a benchmark to compare anything to. How does FireFox compare with Opera?
Engineering is the art of compromise.
i have the same Qute theme from the nightly i was useing. (thank god)
/. doesn't look broken so far
though i can't see any themes in Tools -> Themes
Great release though faster &
Like if I did a "back" to return to the /. homepage, I'll get a message like "the page / cannot be found" or some shit.
2
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12366
It's been marked fixed, yet it still isn't.
The new theme is butt ugly.
No argument there.
I hate to sound, er, metrosexual, but that Noia theme is truly fabulous. The gestures extensions are pretty stellar too.
"Stop throwing the Constitution in my face, it's just a goddamned piece of paper!" - George W. Bush Nov. 2005
Is it just me or the download manager feels clunky? On top of that it is a resource hog.
.7 type downloads (a separate window for each download) until the DM is less resource intensive and more visually appealing.
I wish there was an option for reverting to
Maybe the problem is that I'm used to GetRight as a download manager (a comercial one, one of the best in my opinion) and I don't stand anything worse. Check it out here: www.getright.com
It goes into a crash&restart loop that is tedious to stop.
.dmg, don't put it in a .dmg!
If it's not going to work right from the
This is on Panther.
Get the old default theme back (it's called Qute.)
Watch out too, if you get hit by extensions that cause your browser to start with "Firefox is finishing installing extensions. This could take a minute..." (esp. on Windows) - this page (Google cached) offers some suggestions and links to relevant bug reports.
the 3% speedup feels more than that. very noticable on my PIII 450MHz 384MB RAM. startup times for linux is just faster. rendering is also faster - I'm guessing that the code this time is compiled for 686 instead of 386 in older versions? (someone please confirm this). I tried it on windows today, and although it seemed to start up a little slower, rendering was much more faster. This was on a 1.2 GHz celeron I believe.
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The problem is that Firefox files used to be stored in ~/Library/Firefox, but now they're in ~/Library/Application Support/Firefox. Unfortunately, it doesn't even try to keep the old profile.
So the solution is to just start Firefox up once and let it make you a new profile. Then move the bookmarks.html file from your old profile to the new one.
As others have stated, this version is a bit faster.
The theme is fine. Just set it to use small icons and no text.
The only annoyance is that there is display loop problem when opening up the toolbar customizer (you can get around it by simply clicking firefox's titlebar...I have other apps that do this too...gtk2 issue?)
Another thing that I haven't gotten around to submitting a bug report for is that the prefs window assumes your screen is > 480 pixels high, and comes up off of the screen. Easily remedied using windowmaker's ability to resize with the meta key, but this bug is a little annoying, as the prefs info fits perfectly fine after I resize the window to fit on my screen.
Other than that, great stuff!
The Firefox 0.9 theme is Pinstripe. It's exactly the same except for the 4 buttons brought over to keep the UI similar across the various platforms. Since the "new" theme is really still the old theme, I wouldn't hold my breath about getting the old one back. Maybe you could convince the developer to release "Pinstrip Classic" or something.
Firefox 0.9 fixes any speed issues it once had. I have to say this is the speediest browser I've ever used under Windows.
Is the new theme really that ugly? I find it to be a clean, basic design, which is ideal for a "default" theme. Quit bashing a half-decent looking theme and install a new one if you hate it that much (I personally hated all the previous default themes, but am probably gonna keep this one).
I'm one of those idiots that forgot to uninstall the old FF and am getting quirky errors thanks to the profile import. While stored passwords/forms/setting changed over fine, extensions is broken horribly. Haven't tried themes (since I LIKE the default).
One thing that is irking me: where are the proxy settings now? Before they were quite obvious... but I can't find them for the life of me.
I generally agree on the whole "simplify settings" thing, but the last tab should read "expert" or something and include lots of that "real" advanced settings (w/ plain english descriptions) too "complicated" for the other users.
Semi-offtopic: How many freaking dupes of this article do we need? Furthermore, how hard would it be to have a filter that scans all articles posted in the last week and flags new "about to be posted" articles as dupes if they have more than X number of matching words.
Opera 7.5 was done before IE showed any.
trashed my profile
Pinstripe is quite ugly
theme affects the download manager
That {man} deserves {his} revenge... and we deserve to die.
Seems like the easy gestures extension is broken. Half of the time it seems to work, half of the time it doesn't pop up. Also the tips dialog box that pops up won't go away. Otherwise, it seems pretty fast.
"It is strongly recommended that you exit all Windows programs before running this setup program"
no problem, I'm in linux.
I guess that's what I get if I use the installer... sad. You'd think they'd change the wording. But then again, under linux you probably dont have to close anything....
Web Archives are the only reason I use IE now and I imagine some enterprising minds are working on this....please!
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I love Firefox on Windows, but it's just really too bad they can't match Mac OS X's look on Mac OS X. In particular, the boxy little Windows-like buttons and ugly popup menus have to go.
"Please wait while Firefox finishes installing the extensions, this may take a minute."
A minute, 25 minutes, hour and a half, all the same thing! So I tried killing the directory and starting from scratch, but I'm still getting the same dialog (which is weird)... Stupid Orbit Gray Theme, it's poison I's tell's ya!
0.9.1 here we come!
"1984" was ment to be a warning, not a guidebook. You hear that Kim Jong-il!? BushCo?!
Anyone got an idea when the Debian packages will be ready?
Or should I just run the installer?
I'm using Debian, so I guess I will see how good it is in a few weeks ;^)
All the talk of Firefox/Mozilla has finally caused me to look into trying some new browsers. Mozilla seems more feature-rich than Firefox, but Firefox is pretty cool, too. The Firefox devs should make tabbed browsing a default, however, as it's one of the nicest features of the browser. The overall appearance of Firefox seems much cleaner than Mozilla, which looks a little clunky. Look's like there really is no reason to use IE anymore. Mozilla's download manager and popup blockers are a Godsend. What else are you guys holding back? (And please don't say - "Have you tried Linux?!")
The firefox 0.9 windows installer crashes my NT 4 machine (blue screen of death) shortly after launching. Anybody else experiencing this?
Why do they bother wasting screen real estate?
Because the developers have their computer screens set at high resolutions. This results in everything looking great at 1280x1024 or 1600x1200, but looking really bad and even being non-functional at 800x600 or 640x480. This shows up repeatedly in the sizing of controls and windows and in generally bad graphics. There is a problem of the "okay" button being invisible below the screen and the top bar to move the window being invisible above the screen in Thunderbird for the message rules screen, among other sizing issues. And Mozilla's screen eating toolbars. At least Firefox has adjustable toolbars. But the problem of developers being clueless as to how their product looks to the average home and business user because of the difference in screen resolution used is a constant problem with a lot of Linux based software that I have seen. And I think it has a detrimental effect on Linux's acceptance by the larger population of computer users.
I've just installed the new version, and it seems like my back button dosen't work on some sites (eBay or chatting forums). I just hit it and nothing happens ! Anyone has this problem ? Also, I do not have a scrolling bar on the right, but I guess it my be because of the theme I'm using (Noia 2)...
Anyone got the debugger extension working yet?
There was a nasty bug in Venkman with 0.8 but it could at least be fixed with a quick hack to one of the files in the jar... with 0.9 I just get a blank pane when I attempt to open it. Anyone know how to fix?
Running 0.8 under XP.
I uninstalled 0.8 then installed 0.9 When I try to load it, nothing happens. Well I can see it in the task manager consuming 90% of my CPU and it bounces between 7MB used and 18MB used but it won't load. Nor will it stop this behaviour forcing a reset. I cannot kill the process either.
0.8 has worked great for me, I don't know why 0.9 is having a panic attack.
I noticed that flash does not work. I have even reinstalled using flashplayer7installer.exe which recongnizes Firefox0.9, but after I restart, it still is not working. It might have something to do with the fact that I had the flash "click to play" extension installed on .8, or something to do with Adblock that I just installed.
i agree with you on that one. i REALLY loved that feature. it was SO damn simple open browser/tab type search term press the "down" key until you get "search on $search_engine" and hit enter.
i REALLY hope someone decides to bring it back. it made life so much easier for me, and along with tabbed browsing and popup blocking was one of the things that made the switch away from IE SO much easier
Suchethalearn from yesterday, plan for tomorrow, party tonight
or one out of three ain't bad
The new installer doesn't seem to notice that I already have Firefox installed via RPM. It wants to install in the same directory I unzipped it in. I don't expect them to support every package format under the sun, but if they're going to write a graphical installer, wouldn't it make sense to at least support checking for RPM and DEB to see if it should be installed in /usr/bin? Am I always going to have to wait for a vendor-specific package, or just install somewhere like /usr/local?
Also, in an unrelated note...who do I have to bribe to get Gnome to run a friggin' executable? Security is nice, don't want an errant click running the wrong file--but who exactly are they protecting me from, when they make it (as far as I can tell) virtually impossible to launch any sort of executable file from Nautilus? Why should I have to open a terminal window to run something like the Firefox installer? There must be a way around this...
It deleted all my bookmarks. Does anyone know if i can recover ? This is a bitch to some of us with lots of websites! Damn! Why didn't they warn. I didn't delete the folder either ! Shit.
Anyone know where I can find one?
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At last, Firefox does not require a restart to switch themes.
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!
The piece of shit carried my old IE bookmarks over, apparently unaware that hey, the user has Firefox 0.8 installed. Someone's neck needs to be wrung. And unlike with 0.9 RC, when I uninstalled 0.9 and re-installed 0.8, 0.8 doesn't work at all. The process sits there in Task Manager, but the motherfucker doesn't do anything. "Mmkay boys, let's make it so 0.9 transfers over IE's bookmarks by default -- even if it isn't the default browser -- then make sure that it doesn't transfer Firefox 0.8's settings, and then we'll fuck-up 0.8 so the user can't reclaim their settings and bookmarks once they realized they've just been reamed! MOUWAHAHAHA!! Alright, get to work, I'm taking the rest of the month off." I should've known better. I shouldn't have trusted those dumbasses after they fucked everything up when I installed 0.9 RC. Dammit, dammit, dammit!
Please pardon my homicidal, rage-induced spewage... needed to get that out for the sake of my cats sitting behind me; nine lives would've been several too few.
Now I have to stretch or use two hands. Time to start looking for the change I need to make...
First I installed from my (only) non-root account, but the installer didn't successfully launch Firefox. sudo ./firefox launches fine.
Second I installed from my non-root account with sudo, launches fine from installer, but with subsequent tries it only launches with sudo.
Third install while logged in as root. Works fine as root, and from command line with sudo under normal account, but otherwise non-root can't launch.
Apparently in the readme when they discuss directories with limited priveledges, they mean any directory on the drive. :)
In some cases I installed in /usr/bin, in others in /opt/firefox (SuSe would put it there), and in some cases in my home directory.
Bummer, I will see what the BT does, but since SuSe 6 or newer is specified in the docs you would think the standard download would work.
If anyone can think of some other ways for me to install it let me know! I would certainly like to get it going. Initial tests show it to be spunky, although I also don't like the new look.
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Save em or lose em.
Damn! I didn't delete the folder either.
Anyone know if the bookmark files can get recovered ?
Help anyone ?
Here's the link to the FTP site where you can also pick up a ZIP file containing the Windows version. I find that nicer than the installer, sometimes.
I would still advise backing up your Mozilla and Phoenix directories just in case, but in my case it imported all the settings from Firefox 0.8 with no trouble at all.
Karma: It's all a bunch of tree-huggin' hippy crap!
Weird, when I try to install it, it thinks its installing thunderbird. It has this nice firefox install wizard and it says install thunderbird 0.6.
I recently switched to Firefox from MyIE for a couple reasons, mostly doing with spyware & its ability to exploit holes in IE. After installing some of the 'must have' extensions, such as Tab Browser Extensions and Linky, Firefox is easily configured to give me the same experience and better than MyIE, which imo is still a strong browser (even if it uses the IE engine). My main complaint is a simple one, and that is that there is no option nor extension that allows me to minimize Firefox to my system tray instead of closing it, when I hit the close window button on the browser. This allows Firefox to re-open a tad bit faster than if it wasnt running at all, and is nice to have quickly ready to go. Given the relative simplicity of this option, I think the Firefox team should seriously consider adding such a function, which I was hoping to see in this 0.9 release. Hopefully they will 'fix' this in the next release, but otherwise its a job well done all around.
PS. To those who would tell me to use a system addon such as AllToTray or PowerMenu, no thanks, but thats not quite the same as being able to click the close-window button and having it minimize to the tray. Close, but no cigar.
"What can a thoughtful man hope for mankind on Earth, given the experience of the past million years? Nothing." -Bokonon
Tabbrowser Extensions and Googlebar are non-starters.
While we're on the subject, how can I get ctrl-mousewheel to zoom text and ctrl-enter in the address bar open a location in a new tab? I've been through about:config to no avail. And the forums are not helpful.
WinXP version.
Why yes, I AM a rocket scientist!
Read some other posts.
It got me. Damn.
Going to post on mozilla messageboard and complain bigtime.
Does anyone else find when 0.9 asks to save a password for a site, the message box has no text in it? This is under Windows...
Does any one know if there are going to be any 1.o parties like they did for the mozilla suite?
You didn't specify the platform, but under Windows your old data was stored (for Firefox/Firebird/Phoenix <= 0.8) in the directory
\Documents and Settings\[user name]\Application Data\Phoenix\
So you can grab your bookmarks from there (that directory should not have been deleted). Alternatively, you could try copying that folder to "Firefox", but you may find wierd things happening with your extensions if you try that (that said, it seemed to work for me OK). The old nightly builds from a couple of weeks back imported your IE settings rather than your old Firefox settings - I guess that bug's still there. (Although how on earth it got to be released with such a stupid bug I don't know!)
If you were using Firefox 0.8 under linux then your settings were already under ~/.firefox - so you shouldn't have lost any data but there's not much you can do if you have. It's a good lesson in backing up your home directory, I'm afraid!
I finally got it running. Wanna know how to do it? Delete your fucking profile folders. That's right...they didn't fucking fix that problem. So go ahead and install, but first back up your profile data and then find some way to import it all back in. What a load of shit. This was a problem since before 0.8. Normally I cut OS developers some slack, but this is inexcusable. Especially after claiming that it's fixed.
Actually I upgraded from Firefox 0.8 to Firefox 0.9 on Windows and it did pull in my Firefox bookmarks. But it might have a problem with earlier installations (Firebird or Phoenix), or something like that. Or maybe there is a bug on Linux only (which I will find out when Gentoo add the ebuild.) Or then again, maybe people aren't reading the dialog carefully before pressing okay or something.
You know what would be really good? Every web browser using the same bookmark directory. Then you could switch from one to the other and they would all stay in sync. Phwoar. :-)
Karma: It's all a bunch of tree-huggin' hippy crap!
Delete your profiles diectory. Problem solved.
using a Hosts file.
This guy beat you by 6 days.
I did an .8 to .9 on win2k and:
My profile did not copy. Even manually copying the profile didnt work even when i ran firefox.exe -p
I had to make a new profile and manually copy everything in there.
After that, it worked fine.
I really am not liking how they shrunk the 'scroll arrow' in the bookamarks. Now I need careful aim to scroll through my bookmarks. Not a good move guys.
Icons>small icons goes a long way to making it look "right" on windows. An icon with a shadow on windows? Err, doesn't quite fit.
for some odd reason, they get the bookmarks from older versions for firebird/firefox.
go to
\documents and settings\user name\application data\firebird (firebird, not firefox) and just click on the folders and your bookmarks.html file will be in there.
this is for winxp, not sure on other os.
"Tread softly because you tread on my dreams"
æeee!
Ignore the freecache link - I guess they don't cache stuff smaller than 5MB. :)
æeee!
I still couldnt get it to work. thanks.
Clicking on the upper-right "Go to the Firefox home page" does nothing.
I just came across the Web Developer plugin - I think this just may be the happiest day of my life. From little things like resizing the window quickly to popular resolutions, to the live CSS editing, it's hard to overstate how useful this plugin is for web development.
sic transit gloria mundi
your bookmarks are in the document folders.
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http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=8
I got my bookmarks messed up too.
Damn. Then i couldn't figure out the phoenix folder importing process
Damn.
yell at those bastards at mozillazine firefox forums.
Did I mention I love firefox?
grammar-lesson free since 1999. (rescinded - 2005)
The Mozillazine forums were the place to lodge your concerns when the story broke on /. a week ago.
The thread went to dozens of pages of replies, including a few of my own, particularly from the point of view of an evangelist, since I often point clueless IE users to Phoenix when they've been victimized by yet another browser hijack.
The new default theme will make IE users uncomfrtable, probably to the point that they would rather try to "fix" IE. Yes, you can change the theme, but IE refugees don't have that kind of attention span.
Anyway, the thread was locked after 3 days and over 100,000 views. The response was overwhelmingly negative but Ben Goodger was not inclined to defend his "executive decision", which ultimately boiled down to a battle of egos. The author of Qute made it clear he would license his theme freely enough to be included as the default, but out hero Ben had already made up his mind and chose to fall on his own sword rather than make up with Arvid and get Qute back in.
The Mozilla devs are not accountable.
Personally, I hope someone with evangelists in mind repackages each point release of FireFox with Qute as the default theme so that I can point IE users to it.
As a lowly user, though, I get somewhat irritated by Firefox. Yeah, it has a lot of nice features and I prefer it over IE, but there are too many sites I go to that just won't work with it.
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It didn't delete anything, probably. For Windows XP:
The data is still in the old installation folder. You need to copy the History.dat file, the Bookmarks.html file, and the formhistory.dat file to the new folder. After searching, I found that the old files were in:
Documents and Settings\MyLoginName\Application Data\Phoenix\
They must be copied to:
C:\Documents and Settings\MyLoginName\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profile s\default.uh4 >
The problem is that the FireFox people don't provide any installation instructions, and the installation sometimes fails to copy those files, and once installed, you cannot do the installation again.
As I said before: Clearly the FireFox team has some former Microsoft employees, because the team sometimes promotes frustration. Crazily, there is no way to import FireFox data, only a way to import IE and Netscape data.
On the other hand, Mozilla FireFox is certainly the best browser, if the best isn't Mozilla itself.
I have only a prefs.js, no user.js.
Thoughts?
It's been working fine for me since the upgrade, and even Gamespot is rendering properly. I'm running the Win32 version under Win2k.
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They've gone live when the most popular (and useful) extension - Tabbed Browser Extensions, doesn't work with the latest version.
Well, _that_ was smart.
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Man does it ever look fugly!!!
:( Gah I take it back -- Firefox heathens, burn in hell for your sins!! I want the old default theme back!
I'm not advocating the death penalty for the people who both worked on the theme and those in charge of Firefox who decided to switch to it, but obviously they have no artistic ability or taste.
If anything, it is uglier than the default theme that comes with Windows XP. The triangular buttons for Back and Forward remind me of the old Motif widgets. It looks like they were drawn using MS Paint. Heheh can anything good be said about it?
I installed the old Qute theme but now all the icons on the toolbar are corrupted.
Privacy Issues about the favicon.ico File
This give to web servers admins a way to know that someone has bookmarked it's site; the info includes the date and time of the operation plus the address IP of the machine which bookmarked the site, which can be used to identify you.
Ummm, what, like *every single page served*? Riiiight... If you're that paranoid, you probably shouldn't really be using a computer at all, let alone use the internet. I'm surprised you're even allowed out of the house.
A bit offtopic perhaps, sorry, but am I the only one who can't get thunderbird and firefox to run on Gentoo?
:-(
:-)
I've tried both source and binary ebuilds and compiling the source tarball from the website, and while firefox (0.8) will start, it usually terminates within a couple of pages. Thunderbird flashes up and then instantly closes with a segfault being reports by the wrapper script... anyone got any bright ideas, because at the moment I'm booting into windows for email (sorry, not a fan of KMail). Probably something stupid I've done, but damned if I can work out what
Just to go back on topic - yay Mozilla, yay Firebird
No, not really. They are still backwards.
Do you like the button order?
What about for check boxes?
[ ] Bush
[ ] Nader
[*] Gore
Whouldn't it make sense to always start left?
[ ] Bush
[ ] Nader
[*] Gore
Did Apple come up with the backwards buttons at the same time that they decided that untrained monkeys could use a single button mouse easier (in combination with the ctrl, shift and apple keys)?
What's that? You say you want us to edit a registry? :)
Seriously I want people to keep the above in mind, next time we have a Gnome Spatial and the GConf argument.
Although the icons from the new standalone Qute are obviously the same, one annoying thing is the absence of the horizontal line below and above the icons. Aside from making the vertical icon-spacer lines look out of place, this also makes the toolbar mesh in with the browsing window itself.
Am I the only one having this problem, or does anyone notice that the theme isn't 'exactly' (even significantly) as it was in 0.8?
This account has been seized by the GNAA. That is all.
there has been some mention of preference/config files. an easy way to edit these in firefox .9 is to goto "about:config"
Although the icons from the new standalone Qute are obviously the same, one annoying thing is the absence of the horizontal line below and above the icons. Aside from making the vertical icon-spacer lines look out of place, this also makes the toolbar mesh in with the browsing window itself.
Am I the only one having this problem, or does anyone notice that the theme isn't 'exactly' (even significantly) as it was in 0.8?
That bug wasn't fixed for firefox 0.9, as far as I know.
The new theme looks like shit on Windows and Mac. Qute is WAAAAAAY better on WinXP, and the old Pinestrip theme was way better on OSX.
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I installed as usual, and went about getting plugins and extensions to replace the ones lost in the update. I downloaded a theme called "perfect crystal" or somethign to that effect, and when I tried to switch themes, the browser crashed. In retrospect, I think I might have installed a Thunderbird theme as a Firefox theme. Anyway, the browser crashes and whenever I try to run the program again I get an XBL Binding error that keeps the window from opening. Lovely. I soob begin my frantic search for some way to manually change the configureation settings so that the default theme is loaded. No Such luck. If there was a god, he wouldn't make me use IE. Luckily my version of 0.8 can still be installed and run stably. Even completely uninstaling 0.9 and reinstallign does nothing, all of th setting are saved. Did anyone else have a similar problem, and if so how was it resolved? Thanks in advance for the advice.
Argh, I can't get any extensions to install on a clean install of 0.9 on win98se. Browsing is going to suck until I can get AdBlock working. Luckily all my AdBlock preferences still exist from a cut/paste into prefs.js.
:(
It's strange, the extension downloads and shows up in the extension manager, then just disappears. No idea why.
"Why do you consent to live in ignorance and fear?" - Bad Religion
...someone's figured out a way of slashdotting over 30,000 websites at the same time!
Hi, The FireFox 0.9 Sourcecode is fucking broken. After they updated their Sources again I figured out that they are still broken. Got a few duplicate prototype errors when trying to install. I then removed even more from my config specification and got it compiled. Unfortunately I only get the import wizard. Thats all. FireFox 0.9 DOES NOT START after that.
I am back to 0.8 because that was the last serious working FireFox version. 0.9 is fucking broken and probably the first true broken version i've tested.
Can someone with a regular CRT tell me whether that Windows theme screenshot looks discolored on the font antialiasing? It is a screenshot of a machine that is using ClearType to enhance the appearance on an LCD monitor, because you can see a slight red coloration on the left edge of the font and a slight blueness on the right, if you zoom in.
I don't think it's a good idea to publish screenshots taken from machines using ClearType. They look better if the viewer has an LCD monitor with matching subpixel arrangement, but probably worse for other users.
Is there anyway to set up files where the server is a "native" seed (for lack of a better term) and doesn't require it to act like a client and have BT seeding others? I haven't been able to find any info on setting BT up like this. Or can it even be done?
Ages ago I lost track of the differences between Firefox/Thunderbird vs. Mozilla and mozilla.org doesn't really care as it seems (at least I didn't find any hints in the faqs). So could anybody sum up the differences for me? And yes, of course I know that Firefox/Thunderbird are standalone and thus faster versions than the Mozilla suite. But basically they are doing the same (marvellous) stuff, right? So does Firefox have the same functions as Mozilla 1.6? Why should I switch to Firefox then? Thanks, -nb.
You know what would be really good? Every web browser using the same bookmark directory. Then you could switch from one to the other and they would all stay in sync. Phwoar. :-)"
Easy to do if you know how. I use this.
Really? They don't mention that it works with Konqueror and Opera, but I'll try it anyway.
Karma: It's all a bunch of tree-huggin' hippy crap!
I dunno.. I just installed it on Windows XP, and I'm having no problems of that sort..
However, I have a different problem... The back button doesn't work !!! WTF!!! How does that happen?!?!
i have trouble with ssl. when i open sites with ssl firefox is crashing.
Just found out that one can use emacs keybinding (ctrl-a, ctrl-e, ..) in any text box. I just can't imagine myself not using firefox. Love it!
Are the developers ever planning to release a version that is backwards compatible with the old extensions? Because it really is a pain to have to reinstall everything.
Mathematics is made of 50 percent formulas, 50 percent proofs, and 50 percent imagination.
When I installed the last RC and everyone was crying over deleted bookmarks, the only thing I could find was maybe they selected to import the bookmarks for IE? I didn't import any and it read my old bookmarks just fine...
Of course it doesn't help anyone when all people say is
"It deleted my bookmarks!!!!"
Um, ok...details please.
What OS
What previous version installed
What optins did you select
What time was it
Where are you located (could be from sunspots)
"Some things have to be believed to be seen." - Ralph Hodgson
"FF 0.9 trashed my profile" "Oh... my bookmarks are gone" blah, blah, blah.
;)
Have you had to wait 0.9 to say it? Why you don't said all this in 0.9RC1 ????
OK. Now... I'll try to find my bookmarks on some old backup.
It's still a beta. Whether or not it's an RC (which is just odd to me: a release candidate of a beta?) it's still just a beta.
I don't want to beta-test. When 1.x comes out, that's when I'll try it. If I like it, I may even make a donation to the developers.
Life sucks, but death doesn't put out at all. -- Thomas J. Kopp
If just enabling these already existing options / adjusting these value samke Mozilla so much fster, why aren't they on by default??? Is there some downside?
After installing Firefox on a PC at work, I wanted to run a Windows Update but when you visit the link, the screen is just blank. What's up with that?
I've also noticed that some sites (like Zeldman.com) are very slow and practically unusable.
I'm really missing the closebuttons in each tab. Still waiting for the tab extensions to be 0.9 compatible.
Nothing came up asking me to import my settings from the old FireFox. *poof*, all settings gone.
Thanks so much, Mozilla Team. I appreciate it.
They have the option to block images from a specific URL, why not the ability to block Flash in the same manner?
Flash Ads are teh suck.
We have secretly replaced these Slashdot mods' sense of humor with a rusty nail. Let's see if they notice!!
I too have noticed that, at least for now, Firefox takes a bit longer to open than IE. I dont even know if a user could really consider it an issue, as Firefox definately spawns new windows and tabs faster than IE, and oh yes.... its actually a useable browser.
Please excuse my ignorance, but I did something similiar with Win2k/IE a while back when performance tuning, and the article that suggested increasing max http connections also mentioned that this 'breaks' http standards...is this true, anyone?
OK, downloaded and installed the s/w on Whitebox Linux - how do I get a desktop icon for it and/or replace the Mozilla one.
Info or pointers to a Web site would be great.
Thanks
AT&ROFLMAO
...either beg the developer to turn the old version of Pinstripe into a separate one, or change the new one yourself.
1 (not a link because linking from /. is disallowed).
But your chances are zero-to-none of getting the old icons back as default. Take a look at this bug report: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24677
Some of these options may cause you to hit problems with buggy web servers. Some of them will up the load on a web server and thus aren't very polite. Others may cripple performance on a weak machine.
I do have to admit to be unsure as to how you can pipeline the first request though. Perhaps you send the first X requests all at once...
After installing Firefox .9 I lost my Calendar. I went back to texturizer.net to get it back and the link to it is dead... =(
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. -- Einstein
I have a problem with SSL also. I will click certain SSL links, it reports back "Document contains no data", I click the link again, it works. I don't get the error in IE or NS 4.
It worked for me .. for a while. But now my back button has stopping working. Why??
Anyone else having trouble viewing pages with flash? I can't install themes either. I am thinking of going back to firefox 0.8 now.
I think this happens if you change themes. Close Firefox, open it again and you should be fine. That's what happened me anyway..
They changed the profile directory with this release, so your bookmarks should still be in the old directory. They changed it to Documents and Settings\\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox from Application Data\Firefox. You can just copy your bookmarks.html to the new directory.
..of putting a 4MB file on the Torrent?
I finished downloading before anyone had a chance to connect to me!
Give me detachable and configurable toolbars like IE6 has, and I'll switch to Mozilla or FireFox in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, I cannot configure FireFox 0.9 to have everything in the first two rows like IE6. FireFox requires three rows (including the bookmarks toolbar) and about 3.5 cm of vertical space, whereas IE6 requires less than 2.5 cm of vertical screen space (on my particular screen of course with each window maximized). I can arrange all the same information (Menu, URL, and Googlebar in the first row, and the icons and links in the second row). In short, all the space in the top row to the right of FireFox's menu is wasted.
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That bug was fixed.
RTFH (Read The Funny Headline)
Once I downloaded and extracted the tarball, I had a problem that my X Window System didn't permit to execute FireFox. The solution of the problem was to chown the program tree to root.root, i.e: # chown -R 0.0 /usr/local/firefox/
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One of the extensions messed up the browser...everytime I try starting the browser I get a window saying "Installing extentions - this might take 1 minute"
When I switched to Qute, for example, all the icons changed but it maintained the Pinstripe spacing until I restarted the browser.
I tested again by changing back to Pinstripe and then back to Qute before posting this - that caused all the browser windows to blank out and the tabs to become unclosable. (There were just a bunch of blank tabs which refused to die.)
Effectively (on Windows at least) you still need to restart Firefox when you change themes to get it to work correctly.
You are in a maze of twisty little relative jumps, all alike.
It was close for me, but Internet Exploder was at least 2 secs behind, despite it getting the headstart (Firefox was my second click).
Also, the second time I did it, IE screwed up HALF the icons!
Although, some icons loaded by both were sharper or better rendered in IE.
Anyways - I just like Firefox most of all because its not IE! Plus the accept/reject cookies on per-site basis I like. I don't want a question EVERY time cookies are involved with my regularly visited sites! Neither do I want cookies to automatically do stuff - except that the Firefox idea of trusted sites for cookies is nice!
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When I try to install it in Red Hat 8.0 (as a root), I get a XPISTUB error (618), I've tried to cp libxpistub.so to /usr/lib and even to / to no avail. :(
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Why do I have to confirm my username/password for the proxy server every time I launch a new browser, even though it saves the settings? Can this be fixed?
Firefox Roadmap 0.9 is One Tree Hill, 1.0b (b=beta) is going to be called Greenlane, and FINALLY, 1.0 FINAL will be code-named Phoenix. It has nothing to do with the branding of firefox. And if your complaining about firefox, then shut up and start fixing it. Make a bug report- if there's not one already- and assign yourself to it and FIX IT. If you don't know how to code firefox then STOP COMPLAINING! Make a bugzilla report and paitently wait. This is all still a work in progress.
don't know about windows update, except im 99.99%s sure thats an IE-ONLY thing. as fore site sluggishness, it's probably just a peak time when you were rbowsing, because my build is totally fine.
Hopefully this one wont decide to freeze every so often, as the last one did (something to do with java/flash, and possibly the kernel)
I think I preferred the old skin, but hey, I can get a better one.
im in ur
I have a related problem. I run on XP (I know!) using an MS intellimouse, which is a generally decent rodent. The problem is the driver - it allows you to remap the middle click to something else for 2 button apps, so you can have it do a Copy or Paste or something. Great. Except there's no option I can find to allow it to stay as a middle click. Which means I can't make it work at all on Firefox (so no "open in new tab").
I'm at my wits end - any suggestions anyone?
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well it's a 'troll' as any informed user knows you can edit some settings and make ff pretty quick, albeit IE is often still slightly faster as of .8 at least, who knows about .9 or ... 1.0?
I was migrating from 0.8 to 0.9 RC. Even though it didn't correctly migrate my settings, it didn't trash my profile because it uses a different profile directory than 0.8.
My old profile directory was:
C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\Phoenix\Profiles\
The new one is:
C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\
All I had to do was copy things like cookies.txt and cookperm.txt and bookmarks.html into my new profile in the new location.
-Mike
I remember one theme on 0.8 gave me two of every itme on my toolbars, and when you tied to delete one, it instead deleted the other instance of the button... hopefully, I wont have the same problem with 0.9...
Its all fun and games until someone loses an eye... then its just fun.
I also have a problem where the main text of the page doesn't appear at all, or appears mostly off the right-hand side of the screen, enough so that I can see that it is there, but without the horizontal scroll bar that would actually let me scroll over to look at it.
This happens mostly when clicking the "Preview" or "Submit" buttons when posting, but can also happen on the article pages.
This seems to happen only when viewing Slashdot.
Also, it happens more often when other net activity is going on in the background (e.g., downloads, newsgroup sucking, etc.) or on other tabs (e.g., downloading 10-15 Slashdot articles simultaneously).
Oh, and this is Mozilla, not FireFox.
Those who sacrifice security to condemn liberty deserve to repeat history or something. - Benjamin Santayana
I'd like that, too.
Like many here I have also been using mozilla/firefox for quite sometime. Actually mozilla, I switched to firefox at work because just need the browser functionality.
I have also tried the official 0.9 release, however, at the end of the day went back to 0.8 due to all of the following reasons:
1. Theme. It is not ugly, it is just different and I don't mind that. What I do mind is the lack of polish. I looks like a hack job to me.
2. Installing new themes. I couldn't. And yes I know why, I read the other ways of installing themes but I didn't bother. There must be more elegant ways of dealing with old incompatible themes.
3. Read 2 above. Replace themes with extensions.
4. The "new" themes and extensions managers. They are not new. They were just separated from the options dialog. And although it could be argued that it reduces cluter in the option dialog I am of the opinion that increases cluter on the tools menu and on the number of possible dialogs. Options are usually cluttered - that is where the ugly and complex meet to make the browsing experience beautiful and flexible. They could have gone half way where the new menu items would open the same options dialog but with either themes or extensions selected, respectively.
5. I am a web developer. One of the sites at work "gained" and horizontal scroll bar, where one isn't needed. It just scrolls 2 or 3 pixels and the screen resolution doesn't matter. This is an intranet site so the URL is irrelevant.
I understand that 0.9 is a development release and therefore there are bugs, problems, etc... However, even in development a 0.9 release should be generally better then a 0.8 release, and this doesn't appear to be the case.
Use UseNet 100gigs of new porn daily, select 5000 pictures click 'download' wait a few minutes, done.
Can't get better then that.
just too bad it won't build with gcc-3.4 *grf*
Now that I've installed 0.9, I'm no longer getting sites' favicon.ico files showing up in my location bar.
I am now posting this from IE, because firefox completely fails to work on my system now. I believed that the problems I had before with firefox were solved ... they're worse.
... and NOTHING HAPPENS. At all. I test this from my quicklaunch and the command line. Nada. I can see firefox.exe appear in task manager and immediately disappear. No output. Completely silent crash. Started firefox in the "safe mode", and it tells me it's finalizing extension installation and that it'll take "a while". Five minutes later, that dialog is still there. Zero I/O or CPU activity has occurred. This is what we call "locking up".
I moved my old profile out of my windows profile, so it's totally gone from firefox's view (at least I won't have lost all my bookmarks), and I followed the advice of the mozilla folks. I uninstalled my old firefox (0.8) from the control panel, and deleted the old app directory. There is now no trace of firefox.
I run the installer, it installs, starts to launch
This is absolutely unacceptable.
I've finally had it: until slashdot gets article moderation, I am not coming back.
In one person's analysis of the bugs fix for Firefox .9 it has been discovered that CSS-enabled opacity is one of the new features in this most resent release.
I for one have wanted to test this feature, but didn't know when it was going to hit the scene. It begs the question, Is Firfox the first browser to support CSS opacity?
Go Gusties
For those who read their comments newest-first, allow me to summarize 99% of the comments for this article:
1) "The new default theme sucks."
2) "It trashed my profile, crashed my computer, and lewd gestures at my wife."
3) "It seems 149x faster than 0.8."
Please then, show the class how to speed it up. It's closing the gap, but it's always been slower on everything other than this idiotic icon-a-thon page for me.
God forbid someone should point that out, though. It's still a completely worthless test of speed in any general sense - who needs to load up ico files repeatedly, or even multiple ones on a single page? Can you say, "cherry picked?"
If you change all of them Firefox will act pretty strange - middle-clicking links will open them in a new windows rather than in a new tab. If you want to keep the window count as low as possible, this behavior is certainly not acceptable.
The only setting I needed to change in order to be able to close tabs with a middle-click was middlemouse.contentLoadURL.
Still, this tip is very helpful - the way middle clicks on tabs were treated in Linux did annoy the hell out of me.
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Did they get rid of that annoying "extra window" when you jump into Expose' ?
Yes, my girlfriend is a BitchX
I have just had to uninstall 0.9. I tried reinstalling, but for some reason, after a day of browsing just fine, I'd continually have to reload pages for them to appear at all. Then after about half an hour of frustrating me that way, I decided to close it down, reboot. All I got was a crash each time I started before the browser window even came up. Fortunately uninstalling 0.9 then reinstalling 0.8 worked. I think I'll wait for 1.0 and hope its not as unstable.
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i had mods but i posted on this thread before so i can't mod him up. but he gave some REALLY good advice for all those who miss the google search in firefox.
thanks patik.
learn from yesterday, plan for tomorrow, party tonight
or one out of three ain't bad
Anyone else experiencing this? Before, if I right clicked on a file and selected save as, it would automatically download and save to my desktop. Now, the option seems to not do anything.
Yesterday, worked fine! Today, it crashes every single time I try to start it. Arg!
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For security purposes, I want to have my w2k machines running Firefox with the latest Service Packs and Windows Updates. How am I supposed to load Windows Updates when the website just appears blank in Firefox?
And no the problem is not that zeldman (etc) load slowly, they scroll very slowly once the information has loaded. This does not occur with IE.
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=38
.9 release is a disaster IMHO. I had to manually edit a preferences file with the text editor to get it to event start up. There are many other bugs in this release. It is FAR from being bug free.
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I've gone back to Opera. Maybe in a few months I'll be back.
I think this one should have stayed in RC for a while longer.
The pre-installed Windows theme is hideous. Yeah, you can change it, just stay away from Phoenity it isn't 0.9 ready yet and does evil things to the toolbars that necessitated blowing away my profile to fix.
Not impressed that Mozilla have been screwing around with presentation again, as the horizontal rules on my site have gone screwy.
I have floating menu boxes. Any horizontal rules appearing beside the menu boxes are truncated to the appropriate length. Instead of sitting with the content beside the floating boxes, the horizontal rules now centre and float partially under the menu boxes.
The only solution I've found so far that works is the manually add "align=left" to every <hr> on the site. I'd like to avoid this.
I would be delierously happy if anyone could offer a solution to this problem.
and the werewolves came...
and they ate him...
and they drank his beer...