See, now if I had read you whole post from beginning to end, my humour detector might have fired off... in my defense, this has been a *long* day (woo woo, going on 11 hours...).
"Dude 3: Consumer Electronics are getting more expensive, people are used to paying more for advanced technology such as the latest HiDef video camera.
Me: Ya, but that doesn't excuse Sony from having to justify costing more than its two competitors."
Forget "Ya". I would want proof of this. As far as *I* can tell, everywhere I look either prices are dropping, or they remain the same while functionality increases.
The US constitution only applies at certain levels,
What? Thanks to the fourteenth amendment, the constitution also limits actions by state governments. To quote:
"Through the doctrine of Incorporation, the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment has also brought about the application of nearly all of the rights explicitly enumerated in the Bill of Rights to the states."
Umm... companies don't just go suing random Joe Blow on the street for fun. By the time you got sued for patent infringement, odds are you could afford to defend yourself. And if you have evidence of prior publication, you'd win.
Wow... not only does that outlaw gay marriage, it outlaws any attempt to define a state-recognized relationship between homosexuals which attempts to confer the same benefits. That's truly disgraceful.
Hmmm... touche.;) Well, the point still stands, I think. The availability of third party packages is, IMHO, nearly as critical. All those languages, as well as C and C++, have a rich set of third party libraries available. And going back to Lisp and Smalltalk, clearly this isn't the case (even worse, there isn't even a standard library framework for those languages).
And thus you illustrate why it's not successful. Let's pick a quick list of very successful languages:
Python Perl Ruby Java.NET
You know what this list has in common? An extremely powerful set of standard libraries. Hell, the whole reason I enjoy working with Perl and Java is because of the very rich set of APIs made immediately available to me (and in the case of Perl, this extends to CPAN, which is ridiculous in it's breadth).
APIs are the key. Without them, no developer will bother. As a contrasting example, despite the fact that I love the concepts in Lisp, I've never embarked on a major project in it because I'm invariably forced to roll my own <insert library here>. The same is true of Objective-C (unless you're on a Mac), Smalltalk, and I'm sure many *many* others.
Vote now: Red hot poker in the eye or frontal lobotomy?
Or perhaps vote for a third party candidate? If you're planning not to vote in the first place, clearly you're not worried about "throwing your vote away", and a vote for a third party candidate is as much, if not more of a statement than not voting at all. After all, the latter can be construed as simple apathy. The former is a clear statement that you're unhappy with the status quo.
Ahh, but you see, being an imbecile is *also* one of the luxuries of a highly refined caste. He's just exercising one of the many privileges that we in the west are lucky enough to enjoy in abundance: stupidity.
Soooo... a private school publically funded is worse than a public school publically funded. But a private school privately funded is supposedly better than both? So, what... the money is cursed?
Oh, absolutely. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trivializing those changes. A one or two line-change in a critical module can be devastating if done wrong. The point, though, is that the size of the change isn't what determines how much testing you need to do. It's, as you point out, the sensitivity of the module at hand, the chance the change could interact with other modules (particularly if you're changing an interface contract), etc.
Well, just to play devil's advocate - what if the vulnerability fix was, literally, a couple of lines of code? Maybe it was just a tiny fix.
Actually, I suspect the vast majority of security fixes are just this. Usually it involves adding a couple more error checks to function inputs, putting length limits on operations on memory buffers, that sort of thing. I suspect it's quite rare for a patch to be any more involved, unless it's the result of a serious error in design.
Yeah... assuming you're an average American, I can see how you'd be confused by the difference between a study by an experienced scientist versus the claims of a southern wackjob.
Careful, I've run across at least one article which suggests that "Converting handedness, whether it be from a dominant left hand to a non-dominant right or the reverse, (especially during writing) does not result in a change in cerebral dominance but rather a multifaceted cerebral disturbance or damage" (emphasis mine) that "can then be manifest in the following primary disorders: disturbances in memory for all three areas of information processing (encoding, storage, and recall); difficulty in concentration (early fatigue); difficulty in reading and spelling (legasthenic problems); spatial disorientation (e.g. confusion of left and right); speech problems ranging from stammering to stuttering; fine motor disturbances evident in writing and other activities requiring precision."
Your complaints are certainly interesting (though I have little sympathy for someone who pirates due to bad vision because they're unwilling to buy glasses), but they're hardly relevant to this discussion, given that LucasArts games are not ROMs and are not being re-released in this fashion (so far as I know, anyway... and if they are, then my original statement still stands).
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See, now if I had read you whole post from beginning to end, my humour detector might have fired off... in my defense, this has been a *long* day (woo woo, going on 11 hours...).
Well, my dear elitist, apparently you aren't aware of the fact that "classic" may, believe it or not, be used in a domain-specific fashion.
"Dude 3: Consumer Electronics are getting more expensive, people are used to paying more for advanced technology such as the latest HiDef video camera.
Me: Ya, but that doesn't excuse Sony from having to justify costing more than its two competitors."
Forget "Ya". I would want proof of this. As far as *I* can tell, everywhere I look either prices are dropping, or they remain the same while functionality increases.
The US constitution only applies at certain levels,
What? Thanks to the fourteenth amendment, the constitution also limits actions by state governments. To quote:
"Through the doctrine of Incorporation, the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment has also brought about the application of nearly all of the rights explicitly enumerated in the Bill of Rights to the states."
Umm... companies don't just go suing random Joe Blow on the street for fun. By the time you got sued for patent infringement, odds are you could afford to defend yourself. And if you have evidence of prior publication, you'd win.
Wow... not only does that outlaw gay marriage, it outlaws any attempt to define a state-recognized relationship between homosexuals which attempts to confer the same benefits. That's truly disgraceful.
I am told there are roughly 100 US patents on work I have done filed by other people after the work was published.
In which case those patents are invalid. Previously published inventions are not eligible for patent protection.
Hmmm... touche. ;) Well, the point still stands, I think. The availability of third party packages is, IMHO, nearly as critical. All those languages, as well as C and C++, have a rich set of third party libraries available. And going back to Lisp and Smalltalk, clearly this isn't the case (even worse, there isn't even a standard library framework for those languages).
but the number of third-party packages I guess
.NET
And thus you illustrate why it's not successful. Let's pick a quick list of very successful languages:
Python
Perl
Ruby
Java
You know what this list has in common? An extremely powerful set of standard libraries. Hell, the whole reason I enjoy working with Perl and Java is because of the very rich set of APIs made immediately available to me (and in the case of Perl, this extends to CPAN, which is ridiculous in it's breadth).
APIs are the key. Without them, no developer will bother. As a contrasting example, despite the fact that I love the concepts in Lisp, I've never embarked on a major project in it because I'm invariably forced to roll my own <insert library here>. The same is true of Objective-C (unless you're on a Mac), Smalltalk, and I'm sure many *many* others.
Or you could by a Wii and a game or two for each kid.
Actually, AFAIK, anyone living in a country that adheres to the Berne Convention automatically has rights to any photo they take.
Would you want to bunk up with a gay male knowing his sexual preferences?
Sure, why not? What, are you worried he's going to sneak up and buttfuck your when you aren't looking?
Vote now: Red hot poker in the eye or frontal lobotomy?
Or perhaps vote for a third party candidate? If you're planning not to vote in the first place, clearly you're not worried about "throwing your vote away", and a vote for a third party candidate is as much, if not more of a statement than not voting at all. After all, the latter can be construed as simple apathy. The former is a clear statement that you're unhappy with the status quo.
Well, if there was a "-1 Persecution Complex", I'm sure you'd get that instead.
Ahh, but you see, being an imbecile is *also* one of the luxuries of a highly refined caste. He's just exercising one of the many privileges that we in the west are lucky enough to enjoy in abundance: stupidity.
Soooo... a private school publically funded is worse than a public school publically funded. But a private school privately funded is supposedly better than both? So, what... the money is cursed?
And here's a link to the actual study.
Oh, absolutely. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trivializing those changes. A one or two line-change in a critical module can be devastating if done wrong. The point, though, is that the size of the change isn't what determines how much testing you need to do. It's, as you point out, the sensitivity of the module at hand, the chance the change could interact with other modules (particularly if you're changing an interface contract), etc.
Well, just to play devil's advocate - what if the vulnerability fix was, literally, a couple of lines of code? Maybe it was just a tiny fix.
Actually, I suspect the vast majority of security fixes are just this. Usually it involves adding a couple more error checks to function inputs, putting length limits on operations on memory buffers, that sort of thing. I suspect it's quite rare for a patch to be any more involved, unless it's the result of a serious error in design.
Yeah... assuming you're an average American, I can see how you'd be confused by the difference between a study by an experienced scientist versus the claims of a southern wackjob.
Careful, I've run across at least one article which suggests that "Converting handedness, whether it be from a dominant left hand to a non-dominant right or the reverse, (especially during writing) does not result in a change in cerebral dominance but rather a multifaceted cerebral disturbance or damage" (emphasis mine) that "can then be manifest in the following primary disorders: disturbances in memory for all three areas of information processing (encoding, storage, and recall); difficulty in concentration (early fatigue); difficulty in reading and spelling (legasthenic problems); spatial disorientation (e.g. confusion of left and right); speech problems ranging from stammering to stuttering; fine motor disturbances evident in writing and other activities requiring precision."
Your complaints are certainly interesting (though I have little sympathy for someone who pirates due to bad vision because they're unwilling to buy glasses), but they're hardly relevant to this discussion, given that LucasArts games are not ROMs and are not being re-released in this fashion (so far as I know, anyway... and if they are, then my original statement still stands).
Must be nice to not have to maintain public-facing pages for a large company, or otherwise actually be in the web business.
Yes. Very. *shudder*
So download ROMS while you can, before the packs of lawyers start searching for targets.
Or, god forbid, buy a copy.
Are you kidding? I, for one, am extremely glad that his original conclusions are wrong
:)
Apparently I needed sarcasm tags...