Actually, they re-assembled it, and then 5 years later told the SU what they had done (the SU had no clue it had been taken apart). If I'm not mistaken it took them 48 hours to dismantle, photograph, and then re-assemble.
Pretty interesting case, the one you sight, for a variety of reasons.
Then Vote and write your congressman, as in write a real letter.
Don't succumb to this great 'myth' of the crumbling of american politics that we haven't shook off since the Nixon administration.
How many of you watch CSPAN? How many participate in politics actively? How many of you are unsatisfied with the way government has treated you?
I'm not saying there aren't problems, but there is a process, and a system that seems to work pretty well when you cut through the trendy whining that abounds on the net.
So if your angry, do something about it. We have a small voting population compared to most democracies, your vote counts more here than in other countries. Just THINK before you vote.
Your point is well taken, but at this time I would like to quote a Berkeley Profs first statement when teaching a Crypto class:
Prof : "In this class I will not teach you how to make unbreakable codes."
Class : "awwwww"
Prof : "However, I will teach you how to break any code man can think of."
Class : "Yeah!"
The point of the dialogue was that everything is breakable through various methods. And even if the encryption on the signature was unbreakable, as long as the watermarks are removable, the music gets to a soundcard and out to speakers somewhere in the process, which means you can make an mp3 or whatever format you want out of it.
With sizes that small, you would be able to build mayn many RAID equivelance systems for your data, in fact redundancy would become an integral part of the system.
And what about a nice big fat rebate to those of us raped by microsoft when they where forcing most manufacturers to ship OEM OS with their pcs? I got the proof in my friggin desk, all these shrink wrapped copies of win95.
So, the government rewards companies that comp their employees. And it isn't free to give employees stock options or other benefits. Generous companies get bigger tax breaks. In this case, the companies ended up being so generous that they got a tax break big enough to cover their taxes for the year.
I see no issue with this. If someone can give me a good reason why we should eliminate an INCENTIVE for companies to give employees a benefit, please let me know.
Frankly, I would applaud any company that went to the trouble to give the money they would have paid to uncle sam to thier employees. Ultimately, Uncle Sam is going to get more out of it when the employees flip their options than from the company itself. The employees will get money they never would have seen, and the company will have better morale for it. Win-win-win.
So Uncle Sam doesn't lose, the employees don't lose, where is the problem other than the words 'Microsoft' appearing in an article.
Why is Carnivore's source held private and not published for the online community at large to take a look at it?
The security of a system is offen compromised by secrecy; holes in the system are often not fixed but glossed over through or patched by obfuscation instead of fixing the problem.
A review by a large body of people often brings problems to light, and would force correct security fixes. Furthermore, it would put away any fear that Carnivore does anything that breaches the power of any government agency using it.
I understand there is an argument for secrecy, but if Carnivore truly does not violate any laws, then I find it hard to believe it does anything out of the ordinary or uses any technology that is already not widely implemented.
So to restate the question, why is Carnivore not Open Sourced to the online community (or at least 10-20 universities and organizations) if it does nothing illegal and doesn't use some supposed 'secret' technology?
I'm going to rattle off the top of my head here hypothesis and articles that have been floating around on/. for the past year or so.
The lack of programmers in the industry can be attributed to:
1) Bad Management
2) A industry wide conspiracy to get cheaper labor from other countries
3) Lack of trained proffesionals
4) Decrease in graduates of computer science at colleges
5) Decrease in computer falcuty at colleges
6) Lack of living space in areas where IT jobs are abundant
OK, that's not a complete lists, and I'm sure we can find examples and statistics to back up each. So yes, it's true, and yes, it's a load of crap. There is almost never a single factor to situations such as these.
Do a search for 'recently'. It will take you to the message. Go ahead and edit it in wordpad to give yourself any email spam you would like to give.
My personal favorite is : Security through obscurity and bad press doesn't work very well. If I could do this, pray you have your VB scripting turned off.
For those who want to take a look at the VB code, after installation of the software, go to the hidden folder:
C:\Program Files\MSN\MSNCoreFiles
(And do your self a favor and make get rid of it's hidden option)
There you will find a few.mar files. Don't be fooled, they are not short cuts to access databases as your windows may believe. Open em up in wordpad and take a looke. There is some junk in images and such, but there is also alot of VB. I wonder if the send program is in there?
To those who didn't know (which looks like most of everybody):
There is a significant difference between tapes and mp3 that has nothing to do with quality and distribution that people seemed to have missed (but I'll bet you the record industry hasn't). And that is:
Every tape (and tape recorder) you buy sends money to the Record Industry (I'm not sure which specific org, but royalties are payed to someone and distributed). Meaning that when you copy a cd or a record onto tape, using a tape recorder, you have sent some small chunk of change there way.
This is why the RIAA is trying to prevent computer cd players from playing audio cds. CDROM makers are the only product makers who can play music who DO NOT pay royalties.
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Actually, they re-assembled it, and then 5 years later told the SU what they had done (the SU had no clue it had been taken apart). If I'm not mistaken it took them 48 hours to dismantle, photograph, and then re-assemble. Pretty interesting case, the one you sight, for a variety of reasons.
Don't succumb to this great 'myth' of the crumbling of american politics that we haven't shook off since the Nixon administration.
How many of you watch CSPAN? How many participate in politics actively? How many of you are unsatisfied with the way government has treated you?
I'm not saying there aren't problems, but there is a process, and a system that seems to work pretty well when you cut through the trendy whining that abounds on the net.
So if your angry, do something about it. We have a small voting population compared to most democracies, your vote counts more here than in other countries. Just THINK before you vote.
If Windows was Open Source the concern about source code hacking (which seems to be the concern of 90% of the articles I read) would be eliminated.
Please send me their resumes, I'm sure we can find better paying positions than at an ISP.
Prof : "In this class I will not teach you how to make unbreakable codes."
Class : "awwwww"
Prof : "However, I will teach you how to break any code man can think of."
Class : "Yeah!"
The point of the dialogue was that everything is breakable through various methods. And even if the encryption on the signature was unbreakable, as long as the watermarks are removable, the music gets to a soundcard and out to speakers somewhere in the process, which means you can make an mp3 or whatever format you want out of it.
With sizes that small, you would be able to build mayn many RAID equivelance systems for your data, in fact redundancy would become an integral part of the system.
And what about a nice big fat rebate to those of us raped by microsoft when they where forcing most manufacturers to ship OEM OS with their pcs? I got the proof in my friggin desk, all these shrink wrapped copies of win95.
I see no issue with this. If someone can give me a good reason why we should eliminate an INCENTIVE for companies to give employees a benefit, please let me know.
Frankly, I would applaud any company that went to the trouble to give the money they would have paid to uncle sam to thier employees. Ultimately, Uncle Sam is going to get more out of it when the employees flip their options than from the company itself. The employees will get money they never would have seen, and the company will have better morale for it. Win-win-win.
So Uncle Sam doesn't lose, the employees don't lose, where is the problem other than the words 'Microsoft' appearing in an article.
The security of a system is offen compromised by secrecy; holes in the system are often not fixed but glossed over through or patched by obfuscation instead of fixing the problem.
A review by a large body of people often brings problems to light, and would force correct security fixes. Furthermore, it would put away any fear that Carnivore does anything that breaches the power of any government agency using it.
I understand there is an argument for secrecy, but if Carnivore truly does not violate any laws, then I find it hard to believe it does anything out of the ordinary or uses any technology that is already not widely implemented.
So to restate the question, why is Carnivore not Open Sourced to the online community (or at least 10-20 universities and organizations) if it does nothing illegal and doesn't use some supposed 'secret' technology?
All the great anime titles like 'Legend of the Overfiend' and 'Ninja Scrolls' to come in their grand, unadulterated game form.
The lack of programmers in the industry can be attributed to:
1) Bad Management
2) A industry wide conspiracy to get cheaper labor from other countries
3) Lack of trained proffesionals
4) Decrease in graduates of computer science at colleges
5) Decrease in computer falcuty at colleges
6) Lack of living space in areas where IT jobs are abundant
OK, that's not a complete lists, and I'm sure we can find examples and statistics to back up each. So yes, it's true, and yes, it's a load of crap. There is almost never a single factor to situations such as these.
C:\Program Files\MSN\MSNCoreFiles\ui.mar
Do a search for 'recently'. It will take you to the message. Go ahead and edit it in wordpad to give yourself any email spam you would like to give.
My personal favorite is : Security through obscurity and bad press doesn't work very well. If I could do this, pray you have your VB scripting turned off.
C:\Program Files\MSN\MSNCoreFiles
(And do your self a favor and make get rid of it's hidden option)
There you will find a few .mar files. Don't be fooled, they are not short cuts to access databases as your windows may believe. Open em up in wordpad and take a looke. There is some junk in images and such, but there is also alot of VB. I wonder if the send program is in there?
If it is piping to my monitor, and hence to my video card, it is in a format that can be captured.
Or are they going to outlaw video cards because they have to translate the format?
There is a significant difference between tapes and mp3 that has nothing to do with quality and distribution that people seemed to have missed (but I'll bet you the record industry hasn't). And that is:
Every tape (and tape recorder) you buy sends money to the Record Industry (I'm not sure which specific org, but royalties are payed to someone and distributed). Meaning that when you copy a cd or a record onto tape, using a tape recorder, you have sent some small chunk of change there way.
This is why the RIAA is trying to prevent computer cd players from playing audio cds. CDROM makers are the only product makers who can play music who DO NOT pay royalties.
At the root of every evil, you find money.
-The Cave
"I'm not going to teach you how to make unbreakable encryption in this class."
(Class, as one, groans in disappointment)
"I will teach you how to break every encryption method known to man."
(Class Cheers!)
The moral of the story, encryption is breakable by those who have the reasources and knowledge. Hey, maybe someone will finally find a p-np solution.