Not always. We once lived in an inner-city neighbourhood with a high cockroach population. Didn't matter how clean we were (and we were clean, plugged holes in walls, made sure there was no water, etc) they still came in just from population pressure. Not much you can do if they crawl up through the drains.
This happens all the time. Not so much selling the info to competitors but sales people taking their client's info when they leave the company, often to go work for a competitor. There is also people losing their phones along with corporate data. Best that data never leave the premises.
I was being facetious - every government wants to control whatever they can. While I would rather no one controls the Internet, and having Russia, China, Saudi Arabia and Iran guiding matters would be disastrous, it is probably only a matter of time when the game will be over, the Internet becomes just another tool of governments and corporations, and we'll all have to go home. I do despair....
They have some really good ideas for rack/server design - eg they reckon they are getting 34% power saving by supplying 12V DC to buses in the racks so servers don't need individual power supplies and with improved cooling paths.
Manufacturers won't standardise unless they are pushed like rackspace is doing. This is a big advance.
Really? You think all these pro-*AA comments are genuinely held views? And knowing the pathetic efforts the *AAs make to twist the debate? It makes a lot of sense to me astroturfing would be their next attack point. Though I agree,/. is an unlikely venue, but they are so clueless, they could easily waste effort here. Though not money, apparently.;-)
Funds dried up since Microsoft has pulled out of the astroturf market? Want penalty rates for having to endorse such appalling subjects? Join the AWU, the Astroturf Workers Union, and at least get decent pay for your perfidy. Our charter: "We're not doing it for the money, we're doing it for a shitload of money!" (apologies to Mel Brooks)
Yeah, great, "Reay Linux drivers" - are just binary blobs. No source code. DId you look at the license? All the usual can't modify distributed code, etc. And a specific clause (under 2.iii) that excludes inclusion with GPL'd code.
This is an insult to all inter-ocularly hirsute techs everywhere. We who sport the unibrow (or monobrow as it is known in Australia) - all look up to Mr Vixie, and I myself am proud to have been compared to Mr Twit of Roald Dahl's inspiring book, "The Twits" fame.
It would be chaos if natural laws or facts were patentable. Imagine a researcher discovers some new natural law governing a particular biochemical transformation occurring in white blood cells. They patent the discovery, then demand payment from each person having white blood cells that exhibit this law for a license to use the law. Preposterous.
But nothing was proven either way - Tom Tom settled. A pity because the vfat patents are weak and will no doubt be ruled invalid, both through previous art and non-inventiveness. MS could have (and still could) sue anyone using FAT but they pick their victims carefully so there is less likelihood of an actual trial. Extortion works best behind closed doors.
Reminded me of IBM's siding with Oracle against Apache on the Java licensing dispute and backing OpenJDK. Then publicly lauding Oracle for putting Open Office under an Apache licence despite the disruption this would cause to the Document Foundation and Libre Office.
Fair enough, I'll take back the astroturf slur, not warranted.
Anyway it is extremely frustrating for me to see how corrupt US politicians have become over the years, with the likes of MPAA freely bribing them, getting paid-for legislation, in one case getting their own lobbyist appointed as a judge, even having the US vice pres mouthing their slogans.
Like the perpetrators of the banking collapse, they will hardly face any censure or sanction.
I just hope in Australia's case they continue to fail miserably.
The thread is bashing the MPAA, not because of your mischaracterisation that they "have no right to legal restitution", it is because of their abuse of the legal system. Of course they have legal restitution for copyright infringement, including in Australia. They just refuse to follow due process.
You sure you aren't astroturfing for them? This kind of sophistry reminds me of the Microsoft astroturfers.
Oh no, extradition is an exciting new method for suppression.. er.. enforcement!. Extradition for modifying legally purchased property was successful (Sony) and we are trialling dubious sex crimes which will flow on to publishing documents (Wikileaks). The coffers of large corporations and governments are the limit!
It's not only morally wrong, if proven it is a felony. Microsoft were found guilty of contravening the Sherman Antitrust Act in this way regarding Internet Explorer and Netscape.
It's saying, quite specifically, that Microsoft apps cannot use the API's if they don't let their competitors use them. Yes, it's killing a set of API's, but it's also saying "Our apps can't use them either".
They didn't use it because as Silverberg pointed out, they couldn't get away with that as those APIs were too public being part of the Chicago shell. So they came up with differrent, unpublished APIs that were separate to the shell that MS could use and others couldn't. This is what Gates was referring to when he wrote: "We should wait until we have a way to do a high level of integration that will be harder for the likes of Notes, Wordperfect to achieve, and which will give Office a real advantage." The integration being between the OS and Office.
This is the abuse of monopoly Novell is whinging about. As I said, hopefully Novell will pursue this so it and the other claims can be tested in court. Also the case would bring out what really happened so we wouldn't be here arguing over interpretations, we would have the full, or at least a fuller, story.
Of course I read the whole thing. For those of you who want to read it for yourselves: http://www.groklaw.net/pdf/PLEX_2151.pdf . It is perfectly obvious what Gates is doing - stepping in and killing an already advanced project because the competition would use it, whereas Microsoft had nothing in Word to counter them.
I called you on your opening tactic, no doubt straight out of the Microsoft Astroturfer's Manual, "Make unsubstantiated, plausible sounding claims in a confident, condescending tone". You then responded with the "create an excessively detailed diversion" tactic. I don't buy into that, you then respond with "if you had read the entire xxx, then bog the opponent down with interpretation".
What next? "Never let an opponent get in the last word"? Does it have a flowchart?
Seriously, why don't you people just go away and leave Slashdot alone?
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Well, I did refrain for some obvious analogies in respect of the law but in vain.
Not always. We once lived in an inner-city neighbourhood with a high cockroach population. Didn't matter how clean we were (and we were clean, plugged holes in walls, made sure there was no water, etc) they still came in just from population pressure. Not much you can do if they crawl up through the drains.
According to the Japan Times, the Japan Atomic Energy Agency runs the site. Well done for not allowing them to get away with the same old practices.
This happens all the time. Not so much selling the info to competitors but sales people taking their client's info when they leave the company, often to go work for a competitor. There is also people losing their phones along with corporate data. Best that data never leave the premises.
I was being facetious - every government wants to control whatever they can. While I would rather no one controls the Internet, and having Russia, China, Saudi Arabia and Iran guiding matters would be disastrous, it is probably only a matter of time when the game will be over, the Internet becomes just another tool of governments and corporations, and we'll all have to go home. I do despair....
The only thing they are worried about is that the US would not control it.
They have some really good ideas for rack/server design - eg they reckon they are getting 34% power saving by supplying 12V DC to buses in the racks so servers don't need individual power supplies and with improved cooling paths.
Manufacturers won't standardise unless they are pushed like rackspace is doing. This is a big advance.
Really? You think all these pro-*AA comments are genuinely held views? And knowing the pathetic efforts the *AAs make to twist the debate? It makes a lot of sense to me astroturfing would be their next attack point. Though I agree, /. is an unlikely venue, but they are so clueless, they could easily waste effort here. Though not money, apparently. ;-)
Funds dried up since Microsoft has pulled out of the astroturf market? Want penalty rates for having to endorse such appalling subjects? Join the AWU, the Astroturf Workers Union, and at least get decent pay for your perfidy. Our charter: "We're not doing it for the money, we're doing it for a shitload of money!" (apologies to Mel Brooks)
Yeah, great, "Reay Linux drivers" - are just binary blobs. No source code. DId you look at the license? All the usual can't modify distributed code, etc. And a specific clause (under 2.iii) that excludes inclusion with GPL'd code.
This is an insult to all inter-ocularly hirsute techs everywhere. We who sport the unibrow (or monobrow as it is known in Australia) - all look up to Mr Vixie, and I myself am proud to have been compared to Mr Twit of Roald Dahl's inspiring book, "The Twits" fame.
Such comments are just jealousy, I suppose.
It would be chaos if natural laws or facts were patentable. Imagine a researcher discovers some new natural law governing a particular biochemical transformation occurring in white blood cells. They patent the discovery, then demand payment from each person having white blood cells that exhibit this law for a license to use the law. Preposterous.
Are those european goldfish or american goldfish?
So many animals play, looks like humour to me.
How can the cerebral dissection of humour in this research be applied to beings that don't have concepts? Absurd. Humourous even...
Why does it have such a long tail?
um, because they are?
ConcisionMan = {
v > speeding bullet;
F > locomotive;
1 leap > tall building;
! bird;
! plane;
}
But nothing was proven either way - Tom Tom settled. A pity because the vfat patents are weak and will no doubt be ruled invalid, both through previous art and non-inventiveness. MS could have (and still could) sue anyone using FAT but they pick their victims carefully so there is less likelihood of an actual trial. Extortion works best behind closed doors.
Reminded me of IBM's siding with Oracle against Apache on the Java licensing dispute and backing OpenJDK. Then publicly lauding Oracle for putting Open Office under an Apache licence despite the disruption this would cause to the Document Foundation and Libre Office.
Fair enough, I'll take back the astroturf slur, not warranted.
Anyway it is extremely frustrating for me to see how corrupt US politicians have become over the years, with the likes of MPAA freely bribing them, getting paid-for legislation, in one case getting their own lobbyist appointed as a judge, even having the US vice pres mouthing their slogans.
Like the perpetrators of the banking collapse, they will hardly face any censure or sanction.
I just hope in Australia's case they continue to fail miserably.
The thread is bashing the MPAA, not because of your mischaracterisation that they "have no right to legal restitution", it is because of their abuse of the legal system. Of course they have legal restitution for copyright infringement, including in Australia. They just refuse to follow due process.
You sure you aren't astroturfing for them? This kind of sophistry reminds me of the Microsoft astroturfers.
Isn't extradition more of a murder type thing?
Oh no, extradition is an exciting new method for suppression .. er.. enforcement!. Extradition for modifying legally purchased property was successful (Sony) and we are trialling dubious sex crimes which will flow on to publishing documents (Wikileaks). The coffers of large corporations and governments are the limit!
It's not only morally wrong, if proven it is a felony. Microsoft were found guilty of contravening the Sherman Antitrust Act in this way regarding Internet Explorer and Netscape.
They didn't use it because as Silverberg pointed out, they couldn't get away with that as those APIs were too public being part of the Chicago shell. So they came up with differrent, unpublished APIs that were separate to the shell that MS could use and others couldn't. This is what Gates was referring to when he wrote: "We should wait until we have a way to do a high level of integration that will be harder for the likes of Notes, Wordperfect to achieve, and which will give Office a real advantage." The integration being between the OS and Office.
This is the abuse of monopoly Novell is whinging about. As I said, hopefully Novell will pursue this so it and the other claims can be tested in court. Also the case would bring out what really happened so we wouldn't be here arguing over interpretations, we would have the full, or at least a fuller, story.
Of course I read the whole thing. For those of you who want to read it for yourselves: http://www.groklaw.net/pdf/PLEX_2151.pdf . It is perfectly obvious what Gates is doing - stepping in and killing an already advanced project because the competition would use it, whereas Microsoft had nothing in Word to counter them.
I called you on your opening tactic, no doubt straight out of the Microsoft Astroturfer's Manual, "Make unsubstantiated, plausible sounding claims in a confident, condescending tone". You then responded with the "create an excessively detailed diversion" tactic. I don't buy into that, you then respond with "if you had read the entire xxx, then bog the opponent down with interpretation".
What next? "Never let an opponent get in the last word"? Does it have a flowchart?
Seriously, why don't you people just go away and leave Slashdot alone?