We'll see if they get actual support. The only time I'll move this goalpost is to say that when using keyboard and mouse, that the Mouse is read like an actual mouse, not Analog spoofing like a Xim adapter does. While they are quite nifty, the precision isn't there.
Seems like it's supported to me, since it's on Sony's page. Granted I've never used either so I can't confirm/deny the Analog spoofing.
Also, I never said I'd be giving them money, I said we could have the discussion of moving to consoles as a major gaming platform.
True, I mixed that up with your later statement. Though I hope you mean 'major' as in majority of your gaming, and not gaming as a whole.
Delaying the installation of a driver (like you can in Windows 7) magically makes it work when you do decide to install it? Wow, I really must not know how software works!
If you have a PS4 you can live without Windows games too.
When any console supports KB/M for FPS, we can talk about not using a Windows system for gaming. Until that time, I'll be on my PC.
Any console? Guess you'll be giving money to "M$" when you get an Xbox One. Now before you pick up that goalpost to start moving it, how about a PlayStation 4?
Another?
Wake me up when Chrome, Firefox, or Safari comply with standards and don't shit things up in random ways every time they update.
Wake me up when the standards are actually finalized and not "eh we'll get around to it, maybe, oh you know what, nevermind it's just a rolling release moving target now"
This is about term limits for copyright. 20 years seems reasonable, 90 does;t.
Same old screed from those who don't create - they believe creation must be done in a vacuum without any influence from prior works.
The OP said "Not only copyrights, but trademark and patents. Gone. For ever." That doesn't sound like a limit, but an outright elimination. That was the mindset GP was replying to.
For me, it isn't enough to lower the number of clicks. Moving something I use all the time to behind three additional clicks, because the average user never sees it, is just stupid. Changing the name of the computer from "Computer" to "My Computer" to "The Computer" is change, for what reason? Changing things just to be different hurts everyone.
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it was done "just to be different".
When talking about GUIs, it often is justified. Sometimes with metrics like number of clicks, or click targets. Another is something like: "we tested A B and C and in general people using B did thing better/faster/easier". Unfortunately that leaves people who preferred A and C, or people with baby duck syndrome, to act like change is always done for the sake of change and no one ever listens to them.
Two of those four continue the fallacy that automatic updates = random reboots. This is forgetting two things:
1) Not all updates require a reboot
2) TFS mentions an option to change it to manually reboot for updates
Erosion of choice is bad for lots of reasons. If they want to produce a 'Windows Idiot edition' where it is clear that these kinds of options are immutable then I'm ok with that.
Pretty sure the type that demand configuration for everything under the sun and that an infinite number of permutations of an operating system work the same would also fall under the same mindset.
No, what we need to combat with software bugs is make bugs more expensive - so it is economical to to write properly working software in the first place. How about this: once a bug is discovered, for every affected computer, Microsoft gets to pay a $100 fine.
Yes, lets punish Microsoft for not making bug-free software! Software shouldn't have any bugs, just look at.... uh.. hold on... I'll find some software that never had bugs.....gimme a moment...
Also, how come Linux has less of the "OMG super critical" bugs, like Heartbleed?
Given its much much smaller marketshare for home desktops/laptops, no one bothers to find bugs because there would be less people to take advantage of.
Is it even possible to break Microsoft's stranglehold all these years after the illegal monopoly ruling?
The Monopoly ruling was about Windows, not Office. It also more specifically had to do with bundling Internet Explorer and punishing OEMs who bundled Netscape.
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Yes, I forgot this is Slashdot where Microsoft is always evil and anything related to computers that one doesn't like is exclusively their fault.
Someone chooses A over B, but the person offering B is to blame for the result?? Anything to escape personal responsibility I guess.
Also, if there is hardware where it is locked down, it is because the OEM chose to not because Microsoft required it
When has a petition that garnered enough signtures not been met with the response: "Fuck you, we're not going to change"?
We'll see if they get actual support. The only time I'll move this goalpost is to say that when using keyboard and mouse, that the Mouse is read like an actual mouse, not Analog spoofing like a Xim adapter does. While they are quite nifty, the precision isn't there.
Seems like it's supported to me, since it's on Sony's page. Granted I've never used either so I can't confirm/deny the Analog spoofing.
Also, I never said I'd be giving them money, I said we could have the discussion of moving to consoles as a major gaming platform.
True, I mixed that up with your later statement. Though I hope you mean 'major' as in majority of your gaming, and not gaming as a whole.
Delaying the installation of a driver (like you can in Windows 7) magically makes it work when you do decide to install it? Wow, I really must not know how software works!
If you have a PS4 you can live without Windows games too.
When any console supports KB/M for FPS, we can talk about not using a Windows system for gaming. Until that time, I'll be on my PC.
Any console? Guess you'll be giving money to "M$" when you get an Xbox One .
Now before you pick up that goalpost to start moving it, how about a PlayStation 4?
Of course not, this is Slashdot. Even though the article is about nVidia drivers, it's clearly not their fault, because.. Microsoft.
I though on Slashdot we hated Eye Candy?
No, we just hate anything new and/or from Microsoft.
Another? Wake me up when Chrome, Firefox, or Safari comply with standards and don't shit things up in random ways every time they update.
Wake me up when the standards are actually finalized and not "eh we'll get around to it, maybe, oh you know what, nevermind it's just a rolling release moving target now"
or anywhere else
Unity 8 is coming to the desktop in 14.04, wait 15.04, wait 15.10, wait 16.10...
Utter bullshit.
This is about term limits for copyright. 20 years seems reasonable, 90 does;t.
Same old screed from those who don't create - they believe creation must be done in a vacuum without any influence from prior works.
The OP said "Not only copyrights, but trademark and patents. Gone. For ever."
That doesn't sound like a limit, but an outright elimination. That was the mindset GP was replying to.
For me, it isn't enough to lower the number of clicks. Moving something I use all the time to behind three additional clicks, because the average user never sees it, is just stupid. Changing the name of the computer from "Computer" to "My Computer" to "The Computer" is change, for what reason? Changing things just to be different hurts everyone.
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it was done "just to be different".
Another is something like: "we tested A B and C and in general people using B did thing better/faster/easier".
Welcome to modern design. Save new users 1 click, betray existing userbase by creating a cumulative thousand misclicks per user.
Who said anything about new users vs existing users?
Justify the change.
When talking about GUIs, it often is justified. Sometimes with metrics like number of clicks, or click targets. Another is something like: "we tested A B and C and in general people using B did thing better/faster/easier". Unfortunately that leaves people who preferred A and C, or people with baby duck syndrome, to act like change is always done for the sake of change and no one ever listens to them.
Two of those four continue the fallacy that automatic updates = random reboots. This is forgetting two things:
1) Not all updates require a reboot
2) TFS mentions an option to change it to manually reboot for updates
Erosion of choice is bad for lots of reasons. If they want to produce a 'Windows Idiot edition' where it is clear that these kinds of options are immutable then I'm ok with that.
They did, and it's called Windows 10 Home
Good thing one of the settings mentioned in TFS is update then reboot manually.
Pretty sure the type that demand configuration for everything under the sun and that an infinite number of permutations of an operating system work the same would also fall under the same mindset.
No, what we need to combat with software bugs is make bugs more expensive - so it is economical to to write properly working software in the first place. How about this: once a bug is discovered, for every affected computer, Microsoft gets to pay a $100 fine.
Yes, lets punish Microsoft for not making bug-free software! Software shouldn't have any bugs, just look at.... uh.. hold on... I'll find some software that never had bugs.....gimme a moment...
Also, how come Linux has less of the "OMG super critical" bugs, like Heartbleed?
Given its much much smaller marketshare for home desktops/laptops, no one bothers to find bugs because there would be less people to take advantage of.
Unless the person in the car in front of you had previously cut your brakes, it still isn't their fault, which is the point.
The problem is that the definition of "punks, assholes, douchebags and morons" can change.
Why should there be a debate?
Because my preferences are fact, and anyone who feels differently is stupid.
Enabling is censorship? Better boycott Sharpie for all their censorship then!
Is it even possible to break Microsoft's stranglehold all these years after the illegal monopoly ruling?
The Monopoly ruling was about Windows, not Office. It also more specifically had to do with bundling Internet Explorer and punishing OEMs who bundled Netscape.
It's the typical FOSS mindset.
Since you did something other than what I wanted, all of your work was a waste of time.