Please do not believe that Microsoft would ACTUALLY rewrite IIS 6 from "scratch". They have too much time/money invested in their codebase. This "rewrite" is just a PR scam. They could prevent many IIS security problems if IIS did not run as the user "LocalSystem" (aka full Administrator privleges).
IIS has had plenty of security problems over the years. I don't think this is enough to convince people to "upgrade" to something like Apache 2.0, especially if their existing ASP code must be rewritten for Apache. You must convince both the PHB who owns the budget purse strings and the MSCE who can't read a.conf file that investing time/money in Apache is valuable. Security is invisible, so it's not really a "feature" so in the PHB's eyes, security is not worth money (yet)..
What I'd really like to see happen is California take some initiative and put this software to good use! Yes, they've got WAY more licenses than they need.
What if California resold their many unused Oracle licenses, thus undercutting future Oracle sales? California won't lose any money because the licenses have already been paid for (or at least allocated budget for).
I heard that Adobe has recently abandoned Live Motion. Plus Live Motion is only for animation, you can't use ActionScript to make your movie more dynamic or use external data sources.
98% of users have Flash, but what percentage of gone out of their way to manually download and install Adobe's 2.5 MB SVG browser plugin? I did, but I have yet to find a real web page that uses SVG other than Adobe's small gallery of SVG examples..
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but what percentage of your users have gone out of their way to install Adobe's 2.5 MB SVG browser plugin? Windows, IE, and AOL all bundle the Flash player for their users convenience.
SKILLING (former CEO of Enron): I will personally eat every new nuclear power plant built in this country for the next 100 years. I don't think we are going to see any new plants built.
Economics. Linux is cheaper to use than any of those. Solaris, Windows, and Novell require big capital investments up front and provide servers which can't be stored without a big drop in efficiency. Linux and FreeBSD, depending on how difficult it will be to use it, don't have this problem.
Oil will need to get REAL cheap before people will switch to an alternative energy source. The cost of a new energy source will also include a huge switching cost as new cars and infrastructure are built for (say) hydrogen fuel.
Then we fall into the Windows/Mac trap. The cost of maintaining BOTH oil and hydrogen infrastructure is too great. We will fall into a "virtuous cycle" where the cheaper and established choice (oil) dominates.
Plus the oil companies are controlled by the Illuminati mafia henchmen's Frankenstein weather-control satellites..
Over the course of my employment--about three years now--I've rewritten over four applications from scratch... and it's the best thing that could have ever happened to the code.... you're writing a piece of software the second time around, you know what mistakes you made the first time, and can avoid them.
How common is it for the ORIGINAL developers to be the people doing the code rewrite? Rewrites are usually done because the new developers cannot understand how the original code works. Were the four applications you rewrote your code or someone else's code? If you cannot extend your own code without rewriting it from scratch, then you need to learn about information hiding.
Yes, Netscape 4 had many bugs. However, Mozilla also has many bugs. Why do you think it has taken THREE years to release a stable version? Here's a quote from Lou Montulli, one of the founding engineers of Netscape and the creator of Lynx responding to Joel Spolsky's "Things You Should Never Do, Part I" article. Lou says,
"I agree completely, it's one of the major reasons I resigned from Netscape. In 1998, after wasting a year wanking, a group of new but experienced programmers, and one of our misguided founders, decided it was a good idea to rewrite everything. I had alot of vested interest since I had done most of the original design work on Navigator, but I was unable to supply enough visions of doom to divert the effort. The original design had degenerated substantially due to the integration of Java and the rapid pace of zig zag development that went on over the course of 4 years. There was good reason for a large change, but rewriting everything was a bit overboard to say the least. I laughed heartily as I got questions from one of my former employees about FTP code the he was rewriting. It had taken 3 years of tuning to get code that could read the 60 different types of FTP servers, those 5000 lines of code may have looked ugly, but at least they worked."
the NT source code was (illegally!) based on "Micah" the operating system that Dave Cutler was working on at DEC before he moved to MSFT in 1988
Cutler was working on a new hardware system called Prism and its new object-oriented operating system was called Mica (not "Micah"). The following article has more details, plus some "startling" comparisons of VMS and NT implementation details.
btw, when did News.com become News.com.com ?? What is this, 1999 or something? I wonder how much money they blew on purchasing Com.com. That was a great investment..
These patches were not incorporated into the latest release because each of them, if installed, broke some other aspect of the OS. We, and every other site, only installed those patches needed to work around problems that the particular site encountered. And you always hoped that today's patch would not break something else that your users needed.
hmm, that sounds suspiciously like the Linux 2.4 "stable" kernel..
The other posters were just talking about people breeding. In the USA, I've read that most population increase is from people immigrating from other countries.
I seriously doubt Apple would "slipstream" Apache 2.0 onto users' computers via Software Update. Apache 2.0 breaks backwards compatibility on many Apache modules and who know what else. Since Apache 2.0 is largely untested by the public, I bet Apple will wait for a few more updates and then include it later in Mac OS X 10.2.
This only PROVES that Microsoft has successfully ported IIS to FreeBSD!! Microsoft's new Rotor runtime for FreeBSD is already paying off handsomely, allowing them to finally ditch NT..;)
The Yellow Pages are ordered alphabetically. No matter how much ZZZ Pizza pays the Yellow Pages, they will still be listed far after AAAA Comedy Driving School. Overture's patent is a "System and method for influencing a position on a search result list generated by a computer network search engine".
Better stay on top of the sites with banner ads... the students may be able to click offsite.
How can a student browse offsite with a banner ad when the school computer lab would be blocking that ad's destination (and probably the ad itself)? Imagine the school computer lab using a limited DNS server that does not understand any other addresses.
of course, URLs with IP addresses (or those DWORD IP addresses that are not dotted quads) pose a slightly more interesting challenge.
First, it's stupid to target the net when you can get more/better porno in cable. Even mainstream channels like Cinemax are now offering softcore, and nobody is talking about banning it. And, yes, I'm pretty sure more kids have access to cable TV than to internet.
Last time I checked, my local public library did not have free Cinemax so this point is moot.:)
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Please do not believe that Microsoft would ACTUALLY rewrite IIS 6 from "scratch". They have too much time/money invested in their codebase. This "rewrite" is just a PR scam. They could prevent many IIS security problems if IIS did not run as the user "LocalSystem" (aka full Administrator privleges).
IIS has had plenty of security problems over the years. I don't think this is enough to convince people to "upgrade" to something like Apache 2.0, especially if their existing ASP code must be rewritten for Apache. You must convince both the PHB who owns the budget purse strings and the MSCE who can't read a
I think Smashing Pumpkins only released 12 master copies of "Machina 2", not 50.
What I'd really like to see happen is California take some initiative and put this software to good use! Yes, they've got WAY more licenses than they need.
What if California resold their many unused Oracle licenses, thus undercutting future Oracle sales? California won't lose any money because the licenses have already been paid for (or at least allocated budget for).
I heard that Adobe has recently abandoned Live Motion. Plus Live Motion is only for animation, you can't use ActionScript to make your movie more dynamic or use external data sources.
98% of users have Flash, but what percentage of gone out of their way to manually download and install Adobe's 2.5 MB SVG browser plugin? I did, but I have yet to find a real web page that uses SVG other than Adobe's small gallery of SVG examples..
but what percentage of your users have gone out of their way to install Adobe's 2.5 MB SVG browser plugin? Windows, IE, and AOL all bundle the Flash player for their users convenience.
thanks. I love this quote from the article:
SKILLING (former CEO of Enron): I will personally eat every new nuclear power plant built in this country for the next 100 years. I don't think we are going to see any new plants built.
Economics. Linux is cheaper to use than any of those. Solaris, Windows, and Novell require big capital investments up front and provide servers which can't be stored without a big drop in efficiency. Linux and FreeBSD, depending on how difficult it will be to use it, don't have this problem.
Oil will need to get REAL cheap before people will switch to an alternative energy source. The cost of a new energy source will also include a huge switching cost as new cars and infrastructure are built for (say) hydrogen fuel.
Then we fall into the Windows/Mac trap. The cost of maintaining BOTH oil and hydrogen infrastructure is too great. We will fall into a "virtuous cycle" where the cheaper and established choice (oil) dominates.
Plus the oil companies are controlled by the Illuminati mafia henchmen's Frankenstein weather-control satellites..
Over the course of my employment--about three years now--I've rewritten over four applications from scratch... and it's the best thing that could have ever happened to the code. ... you're writing a piece of software the second time around, you know what mistakes you made the first time, and can avoid them.
How common is it for the ORIGINAL developers to be the people doing the code rewrite? Rewrites are usually done because the new developers cannot understand how the original code works. Were the four applications you rewrote your code or someone else's code? If you cannot extend your own code without rewriting it from scratch, then you need to learn about information hiding.
Yes, Netscape 4 had many bugs. However, Mozilla also has many bugs. Why do you think it has taken THREE years to release a stable version? Here's a quote from Lou Montulli, one of the founding engineers of Netscape and the creator of Lynx responding to Joel Spolsky's "Things You Should Never Do, Part I" article. Lou says,
"I agree completely, it's one of the major reasons I resigned from Netscape. In 1998, after wasting a year wanking, a group of new but experienced programmers, and one of our misguided founders, decided it was a good idea to rewrite everything. I had alot of vested interest since I had done most of the original design work on Navigator, but I was unable to supply enough visions of doom to divert the effort. The original design had degenerated substantially due to the integration of Java and the rapid pace of zig zag development that went on over the course of 4 years. There was good reason for a large change, but rewriting everything was a bit overboard to say the least. I laughed heartily as I got questions from one of my former employees about FTP code the he was rewriting. It had taken 3 years of tuning to get code that could read the 60 different types of FTP servers, those 5000 lines of code may have looked ugly, but at least they worked."
sorry, no "Mozilla/1.0". My Mozilla user agent string looks like this:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.9) Gecko/20020311
Too bad that Sun did not test the outsourced components within their own assembled systems.
no wonder their web site is slashdotted.
too bad 3Com cannot get 3.com.
no way. Debian is much cooler. To view popup ads, you simply have to apt-get popup-ad !!!
the NT source code was (illegally!) based on "Micah" the operating system that Dave Cutler was working on at DEC before he moved to MSFT in 1988
Cutler was working on a new hardware system called Prism and its new object-oriented operating system was called Mica (not "Micah"). The following article has more details, plus some "startling" comparisons of VMS and NT implementation details.
Windows NT and VMS: The Rest of the Story: Is NT really new technology?
btw, when did News.com become News.com.com ?? What is this, 1999 or something? I wonder how much money they blew on purchasing Com.com. That was a great investment..
These patches were not incorporated into the latest release because each of them, if installed, broke some other aspect of the OS. We, and every other site, only installed those patches needed to work around problems that the particular site encountered. And you always hoped that today's patch would not break something else that your users needed.
hmm, that sounds suspiciously like the Linux 2.4 "stable" kernel..
The other posters were just talking about people breeding. In the USA, I've read that most population increase is from people immigrating from other countries.
I seriously doubt Apple would "slipstream" Apache 2.0 onto users' computers via Software Update. Apache 2.0 breaks backwards compatibility on many Apache modules and who know what else. Since Apache 2.0 is largely untested by the public, I bet Apple will wait for a few more updates and then include it later in Mac OS X 10.2.
this explains it. No wonder Apache was stuck on version 1 for so long!!
Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0
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This only PROVES that Microsoft has successfully ported IIS to FreeBSD!! Microsoft's new Rotor runtime for FreeBSD is already paying off handsomely, allowing them to finally ditch NT..
The Yellow Pages are ordered alphabetically. No matter how much ZZZ Pizza pays the Yellow Pages, they will still be listed far after AAAA Comedy Driving School. Overture's patent is a "System and method for influencing a position on a search result list generated by a computer network search engine".
Better stay on top of the sites with banner
ads... the students may be able to click
offsite.
How can a student browse offsite with a banner ad when the school computer lab would be blocking that ad's destination (and probably the ad itself)? Imagine the school computer lab using a limited DNS server that does not understand any other addresses.
of course, URLs with IP addresses (or those DWORD IP addresses that are not dotted quads) pose a slightly more interesting challenge.
First, it's stupid to target the net when you can get more/better porno in cable. Even mainstream channels like Cinemax are now offering softcore, and nobody is talking about banning it. And, yes, I'm pretty sure more kids have access to cable TV than to internet.
Last time I checked, my local public library did not have free Cinemax so this point is moot.