Well, my computer is useless during the install of COL 2.2 since it crashes!
Remember your roots! Linux used to be all about functionality, effeciency and stability. When and how did we get lost in the race for appearance. Especially so lost that someone would release a product that looked good, wouldn't work, call it Linux, and we'd buy it?!??!
I've learned my lesson. Used to be, if it said "Linux" on the box, it worked; not any more.
I have never bought a PC, only parts. I have always installed the os on the boxes that I have built from DOS, w3.1x, os2, w9x, FreeBSD, and linux. The COS 2.2 installer "Lizard" crashes while loading packages, ALWAYS. It dies around 21-28%. LISA, sort-of worked and after a hand configured X setup was done, I tried to reboot. It died somewhere around fsck, every time.
I have yet to get a working COL 2.2 install on a machine that in its current configuration can boot w95, os2 and RH 5.2, with a currently non-bootable COS 2.2 partition just sitting there...
The COS 2.2 cd, manual, and registration card are about to fly into my junkbox...
>You can not make a proprietary version of the Linux kernel. Period.
I have already made a proprietary version of the Linux kernel. Period. It is currently running on a box at home. Period. The source is not and will not be made available for download. Period. I have not violated any feature of the GPL. Period.
... it's a trademark violation. Calling something Linux when it is not Linux doesn't work. I could just as well make up a new carbonated beverage and call it Pepsi just because everyone knows what a Pepsi is, NOT!
That's how the kernel and other software get's improved so rapidly. We crash our systems with the new development level code *before* release in order to debug it. Unlike 'other' software providers, we fix the problems, *then* we release it. Unlike the folks that use products from 'other' software providers, we don't run the buggy stuff on the systems that we need to keep up 24/7. We reserve certain machines just for that development and debug work. The other machines we just leave alone until there is some reason to take them down.
What's more, we don't even charge anyone any money for the stuff. Whether it is the buggy development version or the debugged and stable stuff, we give it away for free!
...what was the greatest thing BEFORE sliced bread?
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They are the users, hackers, et al that have made linux what it is today. Where was Corel when Linus posted his v0.x kernel code to USENET? Where were all these distros when there was no v2.x kernel? If they don't like it, perhaps they should arrange to meet with him, at his convenience instead of their own.
Linus has got his head on straight. He knows that linux goes nowhere, no matter how many or how few distros there are or what they do, without the grass root support that has brought it this far. Perhaps you should attempt to emulate him rather than criticize him.
When I read his initial column, I was surprised, and disappointed. He'd done much better in the past. Now I see that my original impression was correct. The guy has wits, knowledge, and a sense of humor.
Lo and behold he's also human and can make mistakes, ie be negligent in public.
Cheers Jack, that response was a much better column.
I once built, and still use(as an X server only) a working slackware system based on a 386sx40, SVGA/ISA card at 800x600x256, 16MB of RAM and a 100MB disk. I cut it into 20M of swap which was way more than needed and 80M for/.
I do have access to ethernet for it and used it to do an NFS or FTP, I can't remember now, install from the main box. Just do a custom install, pick your packages and fonts carefully, select one X server and window manager, toss all the docs(although you probably have enough room), kernel source and perhaps all the dev tools and you're off and running. I gave up on the dev tools after I tried a kernel compile and found that it was taking *hours*, as in overnight and still not completed!
You probably could do a ppp link if you don't have *any* hope of running an ethernet link or getting a CDROM to attach to it. It might be slow, but it will work.
He really doesn't understand what is going on all around the network. I feel sorry for him. It's his job to write columns about this stuff, yet he doesn't understand the subject material.
I wonder how many shares in M$ he owns, or how many shares in competing *nixes?
That/. is a "reviewers website"? While few, if any of us are truly *your* peers, the stuff that is posted here gets reviewed in a ruthless fashion. The peers also review each other. "the crew" also seems to come to consensus rather quickly as to whether the stuff posted is legit, bogus, or simply worthless. This kind of discussion works much better when dealing with scientific or technical subjects(AKA the real world) than it does when dealing with subjective stuff such as whether or not Jon Katz sucks.
I say go for it Doc V., there are legions out here that can and will review the material. Build your own Biodot website and the readers, reviewers, skeptics, cynics, those that are actually qualified to criticise, along with those that are naive enough to make enlightened suggestions will come.
if the schedule says the engine should be on if the antenna should be pointed at earth if the camera should point at a target if the sun sensors fail if the star sensors fail if the heaters fail if the gyros, radios...
I think that you will soon find that your if-then-else decision tree will have expanded to a rather unwieldy size. With certain unforseen situations forgotten.
They have to have staff, and if they get paid via paychecks, the money can ultimately be traced.
If they get paid with cash, all you have to do is start arresting the people that are handing out the cash. It would take some work, and some patience, but eventually it would break down.
They also have to purchase gear, and I don't think that the stockholders in the companies that make that gear would take kindly to having the value of their shares reduced to zero, so there are several ways that the Congress can attack, if they want to.
What a really lame web-article this is? I mean really, there were relatively few blatant errors, but what about a proper set of related links? No links to the hubble page, none U Colorado, not even a link under the picture that I can click to get a high-res version. Sure it's an AP wire article, but they could put in some links to pages besides their own and their ad links, don't you think, perhaps just one, for those that might want some more info?
Geez ABC, WAKE UP! This is not the evening news on TV or radio!
The point being that the average is way down there compared to most of the people that I know. The realization that half of the pop was at or below that level just struck me.
Remember that's forty pounds of ice turned into water vapor. It will be HOT compared to the surroundings. Try putting a balloon on a bottle(glass please) and boiling it until the balloon is full. Then measure how much water was converted into the vapor that filled the balloon under pressure. Then realize that they are doing this in a vacuum. 40 pounds of water will make a decent sized 'cloud'.
If you want to say "No to ACs" the proper procedure involves a flick of the wrist and a few button-clicks on the mouse. I know it's odd, most places you say "No" with your mouth, but here on/. you say "No to ACs" by setting your threshold to 1.
Not with light anyway. 'Our ' universe, by definition is only as big as the set of things that we can influence or that can influence us. I'm getting a bit out of line here, but the 'universe' might be bigger than the stuff that we can see, but it doesn't matter. By see, I mean without technological limitation. IOW, with the Hubble we can see farther than ever before, but there will be an end, some distance that we will not be able to see beyond no matter big a scope we build. That distance is effectively the end of our/the universe. The effective universe is limited to that we can see, or can see us. There is simply no way for anything beyond that radius, the distance that light has travelled since the start of the universe, to affect us. So, if there is anything 'out there' it really doesn't matter(pun semi-intended).
...does make a difference, but not as much or the way that you might imagine.
The stick that is used to measure the universe is light, as in the speed of. When doing relativity calculations, doppler shifts, gravity effects or whatever, all speeds are referenced to the speed of light. The very words "light year" as defined as the distance that light travels in a year, is relative. Anyway, when the cosmologists talk about the age of the universe, they could just as well be talking about the size of the universe, as in "It's gotta be at least 12B years old 'cause we can see stuff that is 12B light years away!".
Relativity effects will cause the appearance of the universe to change, but it will not change it's apparent size/therefore age. IOW, lusers in those far away galaxies will look at us and say "Wow, they are hauling ass away from us, they must be at 12Bly away, so the U must be at least 12By old!". So they see us differently from the way we see ourselves, yet we appear to be just as far away from them as they appear to be from us.
If you don't like the mod system, set your threshold to -1. Done, that's all there is to it.
Rob's mod system is without a doubt the best that I have ever seen. It allows people to see as much or as little as they want, each according to their own desires. The mods are an ever changing group of people that are sampled not from the readership as a whole, but from the group of posters that actually produce the content that is to be moderated. They, these posters, take the trouble onto themselves to make life here at/. easier for those that want to see 'less', and they do it without any cost or hardship for those that want to 'see it all'. This system as it stands today is closer to perfection than any that I have ever seen. Rob ought to secure a patent for the concept.
Mods are allowed to speak. They just can't ID themselves. Even if the guide is so interpreted that mods are not allowed to speak as mods at all, then the guide should be changed. Explanations of why a mod did what are constructive.
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Well, my computer is useless during the install of COL 2.2 since it crashes!
Remember your roots! Linux used to be all about functionality, effeciency and stability. When and how did we get lost in the race for appearance. Especially so lost that someone would release a product that looked good, wouldn't work, call it Linux, and we'd buy it?!??!
I've learned my lesson. Used to be, if it said "Linux" on the box, it worked; not any more.
I have never bought a PC, only parts.
I have always installed the os on the boxes that I have built from DOS, w3.1x, os2, w9x, FreeBSD, and linux.
The COS 2.2 installer "Lizard" crashes while loading packages, ALWAYS. It dies around 21-28%.
LISA, sort-of worked and after a hand configured X setup was done, I tried to reboot. It died somewhere around fsck, every time.
I have yet to get a working COL 2.2 install on a machine that in its current configuration can boot w95, os2 and RH 5.2, with a currently non-bootable COS 2.2 partition just sitting there...
The COS 2.2 cd, manual, and registration card are about to fly into my junkbox...
Just fiddling with the code to see what happens, usually I just screw things up ;-)
>You can not make a proprietary version of the Linux kernel. Period.
I have already made a proprietary version of the Linux kernel. Period. It is currently running on a box at home. Period. The source is not and will not be made available for download. Period. I have not violated any feature of the GPL. Period.
... it's a trademark violation. Calling something Linux when it is not Linux doesn't work. I could just as well make up a new carbonated beverage and call it Pepsi just because everyone knows what a Pepsi is, NOT!
That's how the kernel and other software get's improved so rapidly. We crash our systems with the new development level code *before* release in order to debug it. Unlike 'other' software providers, we fix the problems, *then* we release it. Unlike the folks that use products from 'other' software providers, we don't run the buggy stuff on the systems that we need to keep up 24/7. We reserve certain machines just for that development and debug work. The other machines we just leave alone until there is some reason to take them down.
What's more, we don't even charge anyone any money for the stuff. Whether it is the buggy development version or the debugged and stable stuff, we give it away for free!
...what was the greatest thing BEFORE sliced bread?
They are the users, hackers, et al that have made linux what it is today. Where was Corel when Linus posted his v0.x kernel code to USENET? Where were all these distros when there was no v2.x kernel? If they don't like it, perhaps they should arrange to meet with him, at his convenience instead of their own.
Linus has got his head on straight. He knows that linux goes nowhere, no matter how many or how few distros there are or what they do, without the grass root support that has brought it this far. Perhaps you should attempt to emulate him rather than criticize him.
When I read his initial column, I was surprised, and disappointed. He'd done much better in the past. Now I see that my original impression was correct. The guy has wits, knowledge, and a sense of humor.
Lo and behold he's also human and can make mistakes, ie be negligent in public.
Cheers Jack, that response was a much better column.
I once built, and still use(as an X server only) a working slackware system based on a 386sx40, SVGA/ISA card at 800x600x256, 16MB of RAM and a 100MB disk. I cut it into 20M of swap which was way more than needed and 80M for /.
I do have access to ethernet for it and used it to do an NFS or FTP, I can't remember now, install from the main box.
Just do a custom install, pick your packages and fonts carefully, select one X server and window manager, toss all the docs(although you probably have enough room), kernel source and perhaps all the dev tools and you're off and running. I gave up on the dev tools after I tried a kernel compile and found that it was taking *hours*, as in overnight and still not completed!
You probably could do a ppp link if you don't have *any* hope of running an ethernet link or getting a CDROM to attach to it. It might be slow, but it will work.
He really doesn't understand what is going on all around the network. I feel sorry for him. It's his job to write columns about this stuff, yet he doesn't understand the subject material.
I wonder how many shares in M$ he owns, or how many shares in competing *nixes?
That /. is a "reviewers website"? While few, if any of us are truly *your* peers, the stuff that is posted here gets reviewed in a ruthless fashion. The peers also review each other. "the crew" also seems to come to consensus rather quickly as to whether the stuff posted is legit, bogus, or simply worthless. This kind of discussion works much better when dealing with scientific or technical subjects(AKA the real world) than it does when dealing with subjective stuff such as whether or not Jon Katz sucks.
I say go for it Doc V., there are legions out here that can and will review the material. Build your own Biodot website and the readers, reviewers, skeptics, cynics, those that are actually qualified to criticise, along with those that are naive enough to make enlightened suggestions will come.
if the schedule says the engine should be on
if the antenna should be pointed at earth
if the camera should point at a target
if the sun sensors fail
if the star sensors fail
if the heaters fail
if the gyros, radios...
I think that you will soon find that your if-then-else decision tree will have expanded to a rather unwieldy size. With certain unforseen situations forgotten.
It doesn't matter if they have their own funding.
They have to have staff, and if they get paid via paychecks, the money can ultimately be traced.
If they get paid with cash, all you have to do is start arresting the people that are handing out the cash. It would take some work, and some patience, but eventually it would break down.
They also have to purchase gear, and I don't think that the stockholders in the companies that make that gear would take kindly to having the value of their shares reduced to zero, so there are several ways that the Congress can attack, if they want to.
What a really lame web-article this is? I mean really, there were relatively few blatant errors, but what about a proper set of related links? No links to the hubble page, none U Colorado, not even a link under the picture that I can click to get a high-res version. Sure it's an AP wire article, but they could put in some links to pages besides their own and their ad links, don't you think, perhaps just one, for those that might want some more info?
Geez ABC, WAKE UP! This is not the evening news on TV or radio!
..just fiddling, ignore me
The point being that the average is way down there compared to most of the people that I know. The realization that half of the pop was at or below that level just struck me.
Hey man, don't take it too hard, just look at it this way: By definition, half of the human population has *below*average*intelligence*.
Think about it. It gave me a chill when I really realized what it meant.
Remember that's forty pounds of ice turned into water vapor. It will be HOT compared to the surroundings. Try putting a balloon on a bottle(glass please) and boiling it until the balloon is full. Then measure how much water was converted into the vapor that filled the balloon under pressure. Then realize that they are doing this in a vacuum. 40 pounds of water will make a decent sized 'cloud'.
If you want to say "No to ACs" the proper procedure involves a flick of the wrist and a few button-clicks on the mouse. I know it's odd, most places you say "No" with your mouth, but here on /. you say "No to ACs" by setting your threshold to 1.
Good wordplay.
Not with light anyway. 'Our ' universe, by definition is only as big as the set of things that we can influence or that can influence us. I'm getting a bit out of line here, but the 'universe' might be bigger than the stuff that we can see, but it doesn't matter. By see, I mean without technological limitation. IOW, with the Hubble we can see farther than ever before, but there will be an end, some distance that we will not be able to see beyond no matter big a scope we build. That distance is effectively the end of our/the universe. The effective universe is limited to that we can see, or can see us. There is simply no way for anything beyond that radius, the distance that light has travelled since the start of the universe, to affect us. So, if there is anything 'out there' it really doesn't matter(pun semi-intended).
...does make a difference, but not as much or the way that you might imagine.
The stick that is used to measure the universe is light, as in the speed of. When doing relativity calculations, doppler shifts, gravity effects or whatever, all speeds are referenced to the speed of light. The very words "light year" as defined as the distance that light travels in a year, is relative. Anyway, when the cosmologists talk about the age of the universe, they could just as well be talking about the size of the universe, as in "It's gotta be at least 12B years old 'cause we can see stuff that is 12B light years away!".
Relativity effects will cause the appearance of the universe to change, but it will not change it's apparent size/therefore age. IOW, lusers in those far away galaxies will look at us and say "Wow, they are hauling ass away from us, they must be at 12Bly away, so the U must be at least 12By old!". So they see us differently from the way we see ourselves, yet we appear to be just as far away from them as they appear to be from us.
If you don't like the mod system, set your threshold to -1. Done, that's all there is to it.
/. easier for those that want to see 'less', and they do it without any cost or hardship for those that want to 'see it all'. This system as it stands today is closer to perfection than any that I have ever seen. Rob ought to secure a patent for the concept.
Rob's mod system is without a doubt the best that I have ever seen. It allows people to see as much or as little as they want, each according to their own desires. The mods are an ever changing group of people that are sampled not from the readership as a whole, but from the group of posters that actually produce the content that is to be moderated. They, these posters, take the trouble onto themselves to make life here at
Mods are allowed to speak. They just can't ID themselves. Even if the guide is so interpreted that mods are not allowed to speak as mods at all, then the guide should be changed. Explanations of why a mod did what are constructive.