Events during and after the battle for Munich's 14,000 desktops:
Jan. 23, 2003: Consulting firm Unilog recommends IBM-SuSE's $39.5 million bid over Microsoft's $36.6 million offer.
March 25: Steve Ballmer visits Munich's mayor, gives him a heads up regarding soon-to-be-announced 15% price cut.
April 10 : Microsoft and German Ministry of Interior announce 15% discount for all German government buyers.
April 15 : Microsoft announces strong earnings for the fiscal third quarter.
April 25 : Microsoft lowers Munich offer to $31.9 million. Sweeteners include free training, software for teachers.
April 28 : IBM-SuSE lowers bid to $35.7 million.
May 7 : Ballmer tells tech analysts in Berlin: "We're neither unconcerned or unaware of Linux, we just tried not to show it."
May 21 : Munich takes a straw poll. Two of three parties, representing a majority, favor IBM-SuSE offer.
May 21-23 : Ballmer makes first sale of Microsoft stock in 12 years; sells 49.4 million shares for $1.2 billion. Ballmer kept 421.5 million shares, worth more than $10 billion and issued a statement saying the sale was aimed at diversifying his financial assets.
May 27 : Microsoft faxes "improved offer." Additional $8.2 million price cut includes unbundling Word from Office software suite for 4,000 PCs.
May 28 : Munich approves IBM-SuSE bid 50 to 30; Frankfurt announces agreement to continue upgrading Microsoft desktops; Microsoft cuts $479 retail price for Office XP by 15% worldwide.
May 29 : Microsoft agrees to pay AOL TimeWarner $750 million to settle an antitrust claim, and agrees to more collaboration.
May 28-30 : To further diversify his holdings, Ballmer sells 10.6 million shares of Microsoft stock for $259.5 million; keeps 411 million shares.
June 2 : After two years of debating a switch to Linux, Turku, Finland, chooses Microsoft upgrades for 6,000 to 8,000 city desktops.
June 4 : Ballmer tells employees in memo, Linux "requires our concentrated focus and attention."
July 11 : Microsoft shares close at $27.31, up 5.6% for the year vs. a nearly 30% rise for tech-heavy Nasdaq.
The main resource that space missions use up is money. Of course this money would be much better spent on education, health and infrastructure.
Actually, a lot of people said that about Columbus in the late 1400s. It's only with a little hindsight, that you can actually apply some foresight to see the value in exploration.
My biggest problem is getting "Linux" software to run on Windows, and run correctly!!!
For starters "Linux" software is a stupid concept. Linux is a kernel... blah... blahh... blahh.. o O ( oh,.. yep right - you mean software that runs under Linux?)
Well fine, but sometimes you're working for a company and they want this functionality that's in a Linux program, say a network service of some kind. Someone has ported the Linux software to Windows, but never really got round to completing the project, in fact many of the features that just seem to work out of the box under Linux just seem to be broken under Windows. Damn! and the project always seems to be pretty much dead too, no further development going on.... usually seems like the Author gave up on windows altogether and turned to running the original software on it's native Linux platform.
So there, my greatest annoyance about linux software is it's lack of support for the Windows operating system.
I'm sure this will get rated as flamebait, but I am simply quoting a real world situation - we only have three boxes that can operate as server systems and two of those have to run Windows, the other acts as a firewall (and runs Linux) so I would rather not host services on the firewall box as it is exposed to the public world.
There are many problems with using RBLs to block connections. A very good description can be found here: I've found SpamAssassin a fairly good, rather than block messages from RBLs it analysis message content, adds points to messages in RBLs and checks known Spam databases such as Razor and Pyzor. Rules matches are given a score, and messages with a total aggregate score are tagged in the message headers, allowing users to filter these if they want to. A main advantage of this method is that no single rule can flag a message as spam, hence legitimate mail sourcing from the badly configured mail relay has a chance of getting through, and in my mind it's probably a particularly bad idea to block any email unless it's actually addressed to you.
Well, perhaps he just isn't as good a programmer as these guys. Or perhaps they made what he started a better thing.
The LRP is dead, long live LEAF - The Linux Embedded Appliance Firewall, based on LRP, with extended Firewall features, and based on Linux 2.4 (i.e. with stateful packet filtering).
Just in case he does in case of ESR's incapacity...
The Jargon File Editorial rights and privileges, ownership of the Jargon File Resource Page, and the copyright of "The New Hacker's Dictionary", are to revert to Guy Steele , or with Guy Steele's consent to John Cowan or a third party agreeable to both.
You're claiming that Linux has been polluted with Unix code that you own, but you have not produced any evidence of that. Will you? We will actually be providing some of the evidence next month to various industry analysts, respected press people and other industry leaders so that they don't have to take our word for it or wait until we show some of that evidence in court.
We will actually be lying^H^H^H^Hpaying^H^H^H^H^Hinducing^H^H^H^Hpersu ading some of the idiots^H^H^H^H^H analysts who we know to be suckers^H^H^H^H^H^H^H respected individuals in their fields to understand our position and undertake all steps that Microsoft^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H we oblige them to do to ensure our market position.
Ummm... yeah... utter astoundment that someone posted a somewhat insightful reply on the basis that Linus was Dutch.... FINNISH... or is that Finish... it's all dutch to me.
With Grub you still can only really have as many machines up and running concurrently as, well, as you have physical machines.
VMware allows you to run multiple systems on the same network, with relative ease - although granted it isn't free, but it does run under Linux (and runs Linux as a guest OS)
I actually have only one dual-boot system on my network, the others are all on their own dedicated operating systems.
The dual-boot system is capable of running quite a few virtual machines at the same time - Great for testing, and it's possible to transfer virtual disks across the network, or use real partitions.
which is why, here in the UK, we make higher denomination notes larger in size than those of a lesser denomination... I guess they didn't think of that in the USA.
Apparently 90% of US currency is outside of the US at any given time.
Have you actually checked the prices for Sun's Linux boxes?
You mean here? $1,995 for a single-proc P III @ 1.4Ghz?
That's the entry price, as soon as you start looking at upgrades and systems with fault tolerant power supplies, RAID etc... then yes... they are expensive. $520 for a second processor!! (just a 1.4Ghz P-III).
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Events during and after the battle for Munich's 14,000 desktops:
Jan. 23, 2003: Consulting firm Unilog recommends IBM-SuSE's $39.5 million bid over Microsoft's $36.6 million offer.
March 25: Steve Ballmer visits Munich's mayor, gives him a heads up regarding soon-to-be-announced 15% price cut.
April 10 : Microsoft and German Ministry of Interior announce 15% discount for all German government buyers.
April 15 : Microsoft announces strong earnings for the fiscal third quarter.
April 25 : Microsoft lowers Munich offer to $31.9 million. Sweeteners include free training, software for teachers.
April 28 : IBM-SuSE lowers bid to $35.7 million.
May 7 : Ballmer tells tech analysts in Berlin: "We're neither unconcerned or unaware of Linux, we just tried not to show it."
May 21 : Munich takes a straw poll. Two of three parties, representing a majority, favor IBM-SuSE offer.
May 21-23 : Ballmer makes first sale of Microsoft stock in 12 years; sells 49.4 million shares for $1.2 billion. Ballmer kept 421.5 million shares, worth more than $10 billion and issued a statement saying the sale was aimed at diversifying his financial assets.
May 27 : Microsoft faxes "improved offer." Additional $8.2 million price cut includes unbundling Word from Office software suite for 4,000 PCs.
May 28 : Munich approves IBM-SuSE bid 50 to 30; Frankfurt announces agreement to continue upgrading Microsoft desktops; Microsoft cuts $479 retail price for Office XP by 15% worldwide.
May 29 : Microsoft agrees to pay AOL TimeWarner $750 million to settle an antitrust claim, and agrees to more collaboration.
May 28-30 : To further diversify his holdings, Ballmer sells 10.6 million shares of Microsoft stock for $259.5 million; keeps 411 million shares.
June 2 : After two years of debating a switch to Linux, Turku, Finland, chooses Microsoft upgrades for 6,000 to 8,000 city desktops.
June 4 : Ballmer tells employees in memo, Linux "requires our concentrated focus and attention."
July 11 : Microsoft shares close at $27.31, up 5.6% for the year vs. a nearly 30% rise for tech-heavy Nasdaq.
Source: USA TODAY research
And it's about time!!
How do we stop this kind of thing from happening again in the future?
The main resource that space missions use up is money. Of course this money would be much better spent on education, health and infrastructure.
Actually, a lot of people said that about Columbus in the late 1400s. It's only with a little hindsight, that you can actually apply some foresight to see the value in exploration.
My biggest problem is getting "Linux" software to run on Windows, and run correctly!!!
For starters "Linux" software is a stupid concept. Linux is a kernel... blah... blahh... blahh.. o O ( oh,.. yep right - you mean software that runs under Linux?)
Well fine, but sometimes you're working for a company and they want this functionality that's in a Linux program, say a network service of some kind. Someone has ported the Linux software to Windows, but never really got round to completing the project, in fact many of the features that just seem to work out of the box under Linux just seem to be broken under Windows. Damn! and the project always seems to be pretty much dead too, no further development going on.... usually seems like the Author gave up on windows altogether and turned to running the original software on it's native Linux platform.
So there, my greatest annoyance about linux software is it's lack of support for the Windows operating system.
I'm sure this will get rated as flamebait, but I am simply quoting a real world situation - we only have three boxes that can operate as server systems and two of those have to run Windows, the other acts as a firewall (and runs Linux) so I would rather not host services on the firewall box as it is exposed to the public world.
There are many problems with using RBLs to block connections. A very good description can be found here:
I've found SpamAssassin a fairly good, rather than block messages from RBLs it analysis message content, adds points to messages in RBLs and checks known Spam databases such as Razor and Pyzor. Rules matches are given a score, and messages with a total aggregate score are tagged in the message headers, allowing users to filter these if they want to.
A main advantage of this method is that no single rule can flag a message as spam, hence legitimate mail sourcing from the badly configured mail relay has a chance of getting through, and in my mind it's probably a particularly bad idea to block any email unless it's actually addressed to you.
All it takes is for one of those spammers with 15 million email addresses to get infected...
Well, perhaps he just isn't as good a programmer as these guys. Or perhaps they made what he started a better thing.
The LRP is dead, long live LEAF - The Linux Embedded Appliance Firewall, based on LRP, with extended Firewall features, and based on Linux 2.4 (i.e. with stateful packet filtering).
Woohoo!
well, then you just shouldn't do DNS, and if anyone brings up spoofed IPs then go and use an OS that uses random sequence numbers for TCP.
Good point... this check only makes a potential hacker need to go one step further.
MD5 checksums are verifyable against a trusted source for example against a known public key.
However, you could try the root servers, they are actively maintained and most people would know if they were giving out bogus information.
dig @a.gtld-servers.net ximian.com
NO.
There are many DNS servers out there who are vulnerable to DNS poisoning and the go.ximian.com A record is a holy grail for that.
Please ensure that you are getting the real go.ximian.com, by checking the record with dig.
Like so:
dig @gustavo.ximian.com go.ximian.com
Anyone who doesn't do this deserves to get rooted.
and that's a very good reason to poison your DNS cache with my very own go.ximian.com record.
Just in case he does in case of ESR's incapacity...
The Jargon File
Editorial rights and privileges, ownership of the Jargon File Resource Page, and the copyright of "The New Hacker's Dictionary", are to revert to Guy Steele , or with Guy Steele's consent to John Cowan or a third party agreeable to both.
watched it... typical mtv crap...
gc@a20p gc $ rm gollum_mtvawards_Bband.mov
You're claiming that Linux has been polluted with Unix code that you own, but you have not produced any evidence of that. Will you? We will actually be providing some of the evidence next month to various industry analysts, respected press people and other industry leaders so that they don't have to take our word for it or wait until we show some of that evidence in court.
u ading some of the idiots^H^H^H^H^H analysts who we know to be suckers^H^H^H^H^H^H^H respected individuals in their fields to understand our position and undertake all steps that Microsoft^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H we oblige them to do to ensure our market position.
We will actually be lying^H^H^H^Hpaying^H^H^H^H^Hinducing^H^H^H^Hpers
then let them know the story and let them know that they should get out straight away.
Hell, if you know anyone with money, let them know the story and that they should start selling stock they don't own straight away.
If it will stop more stories on this site about a dead-company in it's last brain-dead spasms then I'm in.
it's times like this where the 5 point maximum is clearly a mistake in the works... mod parent up to 10 please.
no, you are correct, but this is really the last death throes of a dying corporation- troll, nice analogy but the resemblence ends there.
Ummm... yeah... utter astoundment that someone posted a somewhat insightful reply on the basis that Linus was Dutch.... FINNISH... or is that Finish... it's all dutch to me.
I only ever once came across SCO UNIX in a commercial application.
They're not even worth thinking about, let UNIces die, long live UNIX.
With Grub you still can only really have as many machines up and running concurrently as, well, as you have physical machines.
VMware allows you to run multiple systems on the same network, with relative ease - although granted it isn't free, but it does run under Linux (and runs Linux as a guest OS)
I actually have only one dual-boot system on my network, the others are all on their own dedicated operating systems.
The dual-boot system is capable of running quite a few virtual machines at the same time - Great for testing, and it's possible to transfer virtual disks across the network, or use real partitions.
Let's see how this baby performs against a Distributed Denial of Service attack....
which is why, here in the UK, we make higher denomination notes larger in size than those of a lesser denomination... I guess they didn't think of that in the USA.
Apparently 90% of US currency is outside of the US at any given time.
Denise Richards on the PIX Firewall, she explains why the PIX is not a router.
Try "Network Intrusion Detection: An Analyst's Handbook" by Stephen Northcutt.
"Know your Enemy" from the Honeynet Project
Experiment with the following programs:
Snort
Ethereal
IPTables
TcpDump/LibPcap
Follow articles/join mailing lists at:
CERT
Securityfocus
Examine analysis of the Scan of the Month Challenge at the Honeynet Project website.
Get yourself CISSP reference texts and generally increase your knowledge. I believe Cisco now has a few Security based certifications as well YMMV.
Have you actually checked the prices for Sun's Linux boxes?
You mean here? $1,995 for a single-proc P III @ 1.4Ghz?
That's the entry price, as soon as you start looking at upgrades and systems with fault tolerant power supplies, RAID etc... then yes... they are expensive. $520 for a second processor!! (just a 1.4Ghz P-III).
Just go to www.pricewatch.com and see what $1,995 can get you.