THE TSA is a GOVERNMENT AGENCY you idiot, this topic is not about private companies in of itself, but the TSA, a GOVERNMENT AGENCY interfering with of your use of that company At the request of (or at least the approval of) that company/agency..
IANAL but in the case of public transport, they have to make a pretty strong case that you are breaking the law or endangering others. Innocent until proven guilty and all that. Just because the TSA (and I love the abuse these words get nowadays) "out of an abundance of caution" thinks you are carrying a bomb does not mean that you are carrying a bomb.
I agree. Per the Fourth Amendment, probable cause is required.
My point was (I guess I should have just said this instead, thanks for calling me on that) that while we may have the right to travel, we don't have a right to any particular mode of transportation, except our feet and possibly a bicycle/skateboard/skates, etc.
WTF!? Yeah I'm anon here but I have to say if you will not submit to a search from an entity designed to combat terrorism at it's base then get the fuck off my airplane, train, bus, whatever the hell form of transportation I've decided to take on that particular day. Go the fuck away or go to another country. We've allowed this to go unchecked in our own country before and it has cost lives.
I suppose you're one of the NIMBY (Not In My BackYard) characters we've read so much about in these last few years, as long as it's not your kids school that get blasted from freaks with assault rifles then all is well and good, but when it happens to you "then someone didn't do enough to stop it!!!!!". Same damn thing applies when the bus you get on is the one that gets blown to shit because some one didn't want to submit to a random search. Goddamnit sometimes you morons piss me off.
Are you actually a clueless jerk, or do you just play one on/.?/p?
No kidding, the person posting the question seems to have his tinfoil wrapped too tightly.
He has a laptop and a smartphone, like that is not an ordinary every day occurrence that draws no interest, except possibly from thieves. The roving teams most likely just want to look in his bag/pack. Nothing looks ilke a block of C4 with a detonator attached, thank you have a nice day.
You completely miss the point. The fourth amendment to the US Constitution guarantees that The right of the people to be secure in their persons...and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.[emphasis mine]
Warrantless street searches clearly violate the spirit and letter of the law.
I suspect you'd be hard pressed to find a lot of people who think that we should give up our Fourth amendment protections to stop all the murders. Why then, should we give them up to "fight terrorism."
In any case, I suggest you either grow a brain or stop trolling. Pretty please?
I'm not saying hold your manager over a barrel? if he doesn't want to pay he isn't going to pay?
All i'm suggesting is that you could approach your manager with a solution, if he says "no, can't afford it" then don't supply it. that's all there is to it, the software isn't without value as you've spent personal time developing / designing.
If your manager demands that you implement anyway, simply say that you can't afford the cost of the software?
"look I wrote this application even though you told me there were no funds available, and even though the application makes my job significantly easier, I still want you to pay me for it or I'm not going to give you the application."
"look, i have found a product (shows example of prototype) even though you previously said that the company can't afford the implementation. here is a cost vs benefit analysis on how this product will improve our processes and save us money (justify the expense), I can have the product license signed over to your company so we can have absolute control over any changes to future requirements of the company, the software costs this much to install and has a license fee of x per year... what do you think? "
There no need to tell your manager that you wrote it, its pretty irrelevant if you did, you're not selling your skill (angling for a promotion) you're selling a solution. its much safer (and more professional) this way. if your boss isn't interested sell it elsewhere?
I completely agree with you. There are a variety of of ways the OP could go with this and a number of them may well get him paid if he goes about it the right way.
However, if you read TFS the OP seems quite intent on getting paid. In fact, he made it sound like he was trying to make sure he could document the time and effort to implement the application so he could justify getting paid. All that *after* being told there was no money in the budget. The truth is, the OP came across (at lest to me) as bitter and feels as though he's been put upon even though he comes out and says that he has lots of down time.
I guess my impression of his attitude may have biased me a little, but if I were a manager and one of my people had that bad an attitude I'd be nonplussed to say the least.
I do not have a home delivery subscription, just one for the Crossword puzzles, and I received not one, but two spam emails. One to an old email address I used for the account and one for the current email.
As such, it appears that the list does include NY Times account holders of various types. Perhaps this was combined with other spam lists too.
I think that the mitigating factor here is that the program is outside of the scope of the OP's day to day responsibilities. This isn't a small shell script, but a larger application.
That said, it would be a bad idea to attempt to get money out of his employer for it. That would not be received well.
IMHO, the best way to attack this is to offer to let the employer utilize the solution as more or less a beta test but retain the rights to it so the OP can refine it based upon feedback. That way, the OP gets to be the office hero for solving a problem that is way outside of his area of responsibility and he can still potentially use the (improved) program someplace else for profit if he so wishes.
"Because the whole scenario just screams that this guy is only interested in squeezing whatever he thinks he can out of the organization. That makes him untrustworthy.."
You know, because the business would never be interested in squeezing more out of the individual.
Look, it's a mutually beneficial relationship between the two parties involved. If you're (as the manager in the scenario) going to fire the guy because he solved a problem you didn't know existed and wants some dough for it, I'd say you would be a stereotypically poor manager threatened by someone who went above and beyond.
What makes the guy untrustworthy isn't that he went above and beyond. That should be rewarded.
What would make him untrustworthy is when he tries to hold me up for more money *after I told him there was no money for this project*
If he goes ahead and does it anyway and then provides it to the organization because it *will make his job and the jobs of his team members easier* I will reward him for his effort.
Let's be really clear here. The scenario presented is that developing/acquiring an application to enhance the workings of the organization was rejected due to lack of funds.
What is more, the OP was informed that he would almost certainly not receive any compensation for writing said application, before he started the project.
The OP suggests that even though he was told that there was no money for such an application and that he would not be compensated, that he is justified in saying -- "look I wrote this application even though you told me there were no funds available, and even though the application makes my job significantly easier, I still want you to pay me for it or I'm not going to give you the application."
I suggest you relate that story to *your* manager and see his or her reaction. I'm pretty sure they'd say they would start going through the old contacts list looking for the recruiters so they can replace such an employee.
If you live a busy life, organics can be difficult to find. At work I can't just run to the grocery store and whip up some organic meal in the kitchen. Normally we try to prepare foods at home to take to work, but both my wife and I work full time, and we have two kids, so finding time to do all this is difficult. What we need are fast food restuaranst willing to sell organic ready to eat meals.
Also, Walmart carries a very limited selection of organic foods, and even then it's not 100% organic. We are all poisoning ourselves because of over population!
What passes for organic in the US isn't what you think it is. Here is the USDA's definition. Note that unless a product has the USDA certified seal, it doesn't necessarily meet the requirements set out in the link even if the label says "organic." Which wouldn't even be a lie necessarily, since any compound that has carbon in it is, by definition, organic.
The only way to be healthy is to eat organic, and that's becoming increasingly difficult to do these days.
Not so. It's actually very easy to eat organic. I suggest you have a nice big glass of an organic beverage. That way we can give you a Darwin award and move on.
You know, you can just admit when you're wrong. It's not painful or anything. Shouting insults and running away is childish. So is pretending that you're just joking around when moments ago you were quite serious.
You made some outrageous and extreme statement. You couldn't back it up. Just accept it, move on, and next time remember: you're just as prone to idiocy as the people you love to insult:-)
You know, I really have no desire to wade through the fictional accounts you call the bible to call out each and every preposterous notion that's put forth there. As such, I'll just let you go on lying to yourself and others while deluding yourself as to how the dogma of Judeo-Christian religions is really true when it's not.
It's really no skin off my nose if you (or anyone else) want to believe that a collection of stories conceived, passed down through oral tradition, edited and then held up as the *literal* word of a power that doesn't exist. You go right ahead. If it makes you feel better, I suppose that's not necessarily a bad thing, unless it causes you to decide that since you're right and the non-believers are wrong, you need to remove them from the living to protect the fantasy.
My argument isn't with you anyway, it's with the bible thumping morons (and there are many tens to hundreds of millions) who do believe in young earth creationism and/or its poorly disguised sibling, Intelligent design. Those who believe that whole rising from the dead thing. Especially after several days. You have to wonder just how much brain damage that would cause.
In any case, I personally believe that some of the ideas presented in that work of fiction do have merit in helping us to live together. However, unless you strip out the supernatural and the downright dotty stuff, the bible remains a work of (uneven) fiction -- which is a poor foundation to base any clear, logical theories about the origins of the universe or the processes that operate within it. I'll leave such speculation with ideas rooted in the scientific method. It's so much more flexible and using it to confirm or refute theories has shown itself to be much more reliable in describing and predicting the behavior of the universe and its contents.
If you have any interest in continuing this discussion, I suggest you give Mr. Dawkins a call and engage him. I'm done. Have a nice day.
That any advanced alien race has *ever* visited the vicinity of our world. As Douglas Adams put it, "Space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly hugely mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space."
That's not to say I don't think that extraterrestrial life exists. It almost certainly does. Is some of that life intelligent? Maybe. Is that intelligent life (barring superluminal space travel) close enough to our solar system to warrant sending a probe/ship/monolith? Unlikely, but possible.
I think someone was having trouble coming up with a good idea for a grant application and wrote up a proposal after watching 2001: A Space Odyssey.
All that said, if the data from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter is complete enough, it couldn't hurt to analyze the data to see if there's anything anomalous. In fact, I think it's a good idea. We will probably get some unexpected and possibly even interesting results that have nothing to do with extraterrestrial intelligence.
Really? You think its like a window washer doing the work on your car first then asking for money? Perhaps I misunderstand the current situation, but he doesn't seem to have installed it and the company doesn't seem to be using it already.
I think it is much more akin to the guy who I pay to do my lawn deciding on his own time to design an irrigation system on his own time then comes to me and says he has designed it, and he would like to implement it but he wants to charge me for the design time. I can choose to pay or not, if I don't he doesn't owe me the system. He simply wasted his time designing something I didn't want to purchase.
Again this assumes that the submitter has NOT deployed the system already, if he has its a whole different situation much closer to your perception.
I think you're absolutely correct. That's a much better analogy (even if there isn't a car involved:) ).
i think you answered the question perfectly, but seemed to give the OP some meaning that he didn't have.
clearly he wants to know how to avoid getting rolled by his boss, and maximise his profits..
basically. tell your boss you've found a solution for an ongoing problem to your job, however its outside of your scope to impliment. you could ask for either an amendment to your contract (and a payrise) for the extra responsibility OR to sell the solution outright to your boss. but make sure he(/she) understands that there is no free lunches. basically talk to your boss as if someone else is selling the software and you're just found a good "deal",
On the whole I agree. However, he can't "get rolled by his boss" because his boss never asked him to perform this task. If the application actually had value and the OP offered it up as one more thing he's done to exceed expectations, and his boss was feeling generous (assuming there were funds to be generous with -- which the OP himself said there were not), he might get a bonus or even a promotion. That said, the organization is under no obligation to purchase *anything*, nor are they necessarily bound to pay any additional salary. As a general rule, exempt employees (which it sounds like the OP is) are paid the same regardless of whether that work is in the scope of their job description or how many hours they work.
As for "maximising his profits," this guy is an *employee*. If one of my employees tried (to use your term) to "roll" me by trying to sell me an application that is clearly directly related to his day-to-day responsibilities, regardless of the location or timing of the software development, I would start the process of replacing that employee. Why? Because the whole scenario just screams that this guy is only interested in squeezing whatever he thinks he can out of the organization. That makes him untrustworthy..
I'm guessing (based on the 's' in maximise) that you aren't an American. In the US, holding your employer over a barrel like that is usually frowned upon (I'm guessing that barring any laws to the contrary where you are, it's the same there) and, as a rule, the only compensation you can expect is your final paycheck and an escort to the building exit..
The Catholic church has supported the big bang theory pretty much since its inception, and has supported evolution for longer than most of us have been alive. Young Earth creationism can hardly be considered a key tenet of any faith, and I make no excuses for the people who believe in it. But, as I've said, the Catholic church, which represents well over a billion people, does not hold to those beliefs, let alone as key tenets. Please come up with a real example.
Sorry. It's late and I don't feel like hunting around for references to other examples. So you get insults instead. Have a nice day!
Why should I care what bunch of pedophiles believe? [ad hominem attack]
Besides, why should I care which specific set of bible nutters you identify with? You're all a bunch of bible thumping morons.[overly broad and unflattering generalization]
1) Inflate and scramble your codes such that they are totally incomprehensible by anyone but yourself
2) Hide expiry timers in your codes as many places as possible
3) Hand over your codes and promote them as next best thing since slice bread
4) Your gullible boss merrily decide to use your code without paying you a dime
5) Secretly remove any possibility of recovering old codes by removing the codebase backup
6) Ask for huge compensation before expiry, expect to receive stuckup noses
7) The day of expiry is the point you yell PROFIT!!!!
8) The day after expiry, start packing up your stuff, HR will be by shortly to have you escorted from the building.
Entitlement or exploitation? It's a fine line. Would you say the same thing if the terms were not monetary but instead based on the barter system and other goods were exchanged?
I already have a military family background. I'm being practical. Why should one benefit at the other's expense without exchanging the means for the knowledge and expertise? They hired me and outlined my job description to the T. I abide by it. The fact that I have the ability to go beyond my job scope should be the merits used for salary negotiations. But as raises have been completely shut down for all non C-level people, what's the point of going beyond the scope? And don't feed me any of this greater good or terrible economy crap. The only way to get through a terrible economy in through self preservation and accumulating the necessities to weather the storm.
Let me get this straight:
1. You weren't tasked with or asked to create this application
2. You went ahead and did it anyway
3. You feel you should be compensated for work done entirely on your own initiative and without any request or direction from management?
That sounds an kind of like the guy who walks up to your car at the red light, washes your windshield and then asks for money. Even if the window was dirty, no one asked the guy to wash your windshield. Now you want someone to pay you for work they didn't ask to be done that you took upon yourself to do.
I'd say you have four choices (I won't address copyright or licensing as that's not what you talk about):
1. Ask for compensation and provide the application to your employer if you feel the offered remuneration is appropriate
2. Ask for compensation and provide the application to your employer regardless of compensation
3. Ask for compensation and withhold the application if you feel the offered remuneration isn't appropriate
4. Don't involve your employer with this application at all and then do whatever you think appropriate insofar as selling it on the open market, open-sourcing it, etc.
Because it was not requested or required, your employer is under no obligation to purchase the application from you, nor to compensate you for your time in developing the application, even if the application provides as much value as you say.
If I was your boss and I felt the application might have merit, I'd have you pilot it and then implement it in production if it passed muster. I'd then say, "thanks very much for this great tool. Now get back to work." I'd probably (if it were within my means) try to get you a (bigger) bonus and/or some extra time off and it would definitely improve your annual review, but I'm not going to pay one of my employees contracting fees just because he took it on himself to implement a tool that benefits him and his team.
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THE TSA is a GOVERNMENT AGENCY you idiot, this topic is not about private companies in of itself, but the TSA, a GOVERNMENT AGENCY interfering with of your use of that company At the request of (or at least the approval of) that company/agency. .
FTFY
have the right to refuse service to you as well.
IANAL but in the case of public transport, they have to make a pretty strong case that you are breaking the law or endangering others. Innocent until proven guilty and all that. Just because the TSA (and I love the abuse these words get nowadays) "out of an abundance of caution" thinks you are carrying a bomb does not mean that you are carrying a bomb.
I agree. Per the Fourth Amendment, probable cause is required.
My point was (I guess I should have just said this instead, thanks for calling me on that) that while we may have the right to travel, we don't have a right to any particular mode of transportation, except our feet and possibly a bicycle/skateboard/skates, etc.
WTF!? Yeah I'm anon here but I have to say if you will not submit to a search from an entity designed to combat terrorism at it's base then get the fuck off my airplane, train, bus, whatever the hell form of transportation I've decided to take on that particular day. Go the fuck away or go to another country. We've allowed this to go unchecked in our own country before and it has cost lives.
I suppose you're one of the NIMBY (Not In My BackYard) characters we've read so much about in these last few years, as long as it's not your kids school that get blasted from freaks with assault rifles then all is well and good, but when it happens to you "then someone didn't do enough to stop it!!!!!". Same damn thing applies when the bus you get on is the one that gets blown to shit because some one didn't want to submit to a random search. Goddamnit sometimes you morons piss me off.
Are you actually a clueless jerk, or do you just play one on /.?/p?
FUCK THAT! They have no right to treat people like this. It's criminal and unconstitutional. Travel is a right, NOT a privelege.
You're absolutely correct. You have the right to travel, but those who manage transportation systems have the right to refuse service to you as well.
I suggest walking or bicycling for shorter distances and some sort of powered personal conveyance for longer ones.
While I'm not a huge fan of his Social Darwinistic ideas, Robert Heinlein got it right when he said: "I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do."
Make of that what you will.
no need to get into trouble
No kidding, the person posting the question seems to have his tinfoil wrapped too tightly. He has a laptop and a smartphone, like that is not an ordinary every day occurrence that draws no interest, except possibly from thieves. The roving teams most likely just want to look in his bag/pack. Nothing looks ilke a block of C4 with a detonator attached, thank you have a nice day.
You completely miss the point. The fourth amendment to the US Constitution guarantees that
The right of the people to be secure in their persons...and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. [emphasis mine]
Warrantless street searches clearly violate the spirit and letter of the law.
What about public safety you ask? According to the US government, four times as many people die from lightning strikes every year than from terrorist activities.
By your logic, we should cover the country with a non-conductive dome.
Nature can't be controlled you say? Okay, how about this: the US government estimated that 730 US persons died as a result of terrorism. in 2007
They also report 17,100 murders in the US during the same year.
I suspect you'd be hard pressed to find a lot of people who think that we should give up our Fourth amendment protections to stop all the murders. Why then, should we give them up to "fight terrorism."
In any case, I suggest you either grow a brain or stop trolling. Pretty please?
As far as they are concerned, you have no rights.
Actually, you have three. With eternal thanks to The Clash
We had much more proportional representation before the adoption of the 17th amendment. The 17th amendment needs to be repealed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventeenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
Right. Because state governments are *so* much more responsive to the electorate and *much* less corrupt that the federal government. Please!
I'm not saying hold your manager over a barrel? if he doesn't want to pay he isn't going to pay?
All i'm suggesting is that you could approach your manager with a solution, if he says "no, can't afford it" then don't supply it. that's all there is to it, the software isn't without value as you've spent personal time developing / designing.
If your manager demands that you implement anyway, simply say that you can't afford the cost of the software?
"look I wrote this application even though you told me there were no funds available, and even though the application makes my job significantly easier, I still want you to pay me for it or I'm not going to give you the application."
"look, i have found a product (shows example of prototype) even though you previously said that the company can't afford the implementation. here is a cost vs benefit analysis on how this product will improve our processes and save us money (justify the expense), I can have the product license signed over to your company so we can have absolute control over any changes to future requirements of the company, the software costs this much to install and has a license fee of x per year... what do you think? "
There no need to tell your manager that you wrote it, its pretty irrelevant if you did, you're not selling your skill (angling for a promotion) you're selling a solution. its much safer (and more professional) this way. if your boss isn't interested sell it elsewhere?
I completely agree with you. There are a variety of of ways the OP could go with this and a number of them may well get him paid if he goes about it the right way.
However, if you read TFS the OP seems quite intent on getting paid. In fact, he made it sound like he was trying to make sure he could document the time and effort to implement the application so he could justify getting paid. All that *after* being told there was no money in the budget. The truth is, the OP came across (at lest to me) as bitter and feels as though he's been put upon even though he comes out and says that he has lots of down time.
I guess my impression of his attitude may have biased me a little, but if I were a manager and one of my people had that bad an attitude I'd be nonplussed to say the least.
Ooh, ooh, ooh... FAX?
I predict they will begin receiving sheets of black construction paper shortly...
I recommend full color Goatse.
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Doesn't look like they're trolling for information, but I have not tried the number.
The phone number above asks you to send a fax to a different number. They're *definitely* trolling. Note that the real phone number is 1 800 NYTIMES.
I do not have a home delivery subscription, just one for the Crossword puzzles, and I received not one, but two spam emails. One to an old email address I used for the account and one for the current email.
As such, it appears that the list does include NY Times account holders of various types. Perhaps this was combined with other spam lists too.
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I think that the mitigating factor here is that the program is outside of the scope of the OP's day to day responsibilities. This isn't a small shell script, but a larger application.
That said, it would be a bad idea to attempt to get money out of his employer for it. That would not be received well.
IMHO, the best way to attack this is to offer to let the employer utilize the solution as more or less a beta test but retain the rights to it so the OP can refine it based upon feedback. That way, the OP gets to be the office hero for solving a problem that is way outside of his area of responsibility and he can still potentially use the (improved) program someplace else for profit if he so wishes.
Well spoken, sir.
One more point, at a previous employer we used to refer to behavior like that as a CLM (Career Limiting Move). And for good reason.
"Because the whole scenario just screams that this guy is only interested in squeezing whatever he thinks he can out of the organization. That makes him untrustworthy.."
You know, because the business would never be interested in squeezing more out of the individual.
Look, it's a mutually beneficial relationship between the two parties involved. If you're (as the manager in the scenario) going to fire the guy because he solved a problem you didn't know existed and wants some dough for it, I'd say you would be a stereotypically poor manager threatened by someone who went above and beyond.
What makes the guy untrustworthy isn't that he went above and beyond. That should be rewarded.
What would make him untrustworthy is when he tries to hold me up for more money *after I told him there was no money for this project*
If he goes ahead and does it anyway and then provides it to the organization because it *will make his job and the jobs of his team members easier* I will reward him for his effort.
Let's be really clear here. The scenario presented is that developing/acquiring an application to enhance the workings of the organization was rejected due to lack of funds.
What is more, the OP was informed that he would almost certainly not receive any compensation for writing said application, before he started the project.
The OP suggests that even though he was told that there was no money for such an application and that he would not be compensated, that he is justified in saying -- "look I wrote this application even though you told me there were no funds available, and even though the application makes my job significantly easier, I still want you to pay me for it or I'm not going to give you the application."
I suggest you relate that story to *your* manager and see his or her reaction. I'm pretty sure they'd say they would start going through the old contacts list looking for the recruiters so they can replace such an employee.
If you live a busy life, organics can be difficult to find. At work I can't just run to the grocery store and whip up some organic meal in the kitchen. Normally we try to prepare foods at home to take to work, but both my wife and I work full time, and we have two kids, so finding time to do all this is difficult. What we need are fast food restuaranst willing to sell organic ready to eat meals. Also, Walmart carries a very limited selection of organic foods, and even then it's not 100% organic. We are all poisoning ourselves because of over population!
What passes for organic in the US isn't what you think it is. Here is the USDA's definition. Note that unless a product has the USDA certified seal, it doesn't necessarily meet the requirements set out in the link even if the label says "organic." Which wouldn't even be a lie necessarily, since any compound that has carbon in it is, by definition, organic.
Organic alcohol is my favorite: http://www.imakenews.com/gaultbmw/e_article002241575.cfm?x=b11,0,w
Uh, all alcohols are organic...
The only way to be healthy is to eat organic, and that's becoming increasingly difficult to do these days.
Not so. It's actually very easy to eat organic. I suggest you have a nice big glass of an organic beverage. That way we can give you a Darwin award and move on.
You know, you can just admit when you're wrong. It's not painful or anything. Shouting insults and running away is childish. So is pretending that you're just joking around when moments ago you were quite serious.
You made some outrageous and extreme statement. You couldn't back it up. Just accept it, move on, and next time remember: you're just as prone to idiocy as the people you love to insult :-)
Okay, my new Catholic friend, What about This?
How many gods are there?
You know, I really have no desire to wade through the fictional accounts you call the bible to call out each and every preposterous notion that's put forth there. As such, I'll just let you go on lying to yourself and others while deluding yourself as to how the dogma of Judeo-Christian religions is really true when it's not.
It's really no skin off my nose if you (or anyone else) want to believe that a collection of stories conceived, passed down through oral tradition, edited and then held up as the *literal* word of a power that doesn't exist. You go right ahead. If it makes you feel better, I suppose that's not necessarily a bad thing, unless it causes you to decide that since you're right and the non-believers are wrong, you need to remove them from the living to protect the fantasy.
My argument isn't with you anyway, it's with the bible thumping morons (and there are many tens to hundreds of millions) who do believe in young earth creationism and/or its poorly disguised sibling, Intelligent design. Those who believe that whole rising from the dead thing. Especially after several days. You have to wonder just how much brain damage that would cause.
In any case, I personally believe that some of the ideas presented in that work of fiction do have merit in helping us to live together. However, unless you strip out the supernatural and the downright dotty stuff, the bible remains a work of (uneven) fiction -- which is a poor foundation to base any clear, logical theories about the origins of the universe or the processes that operate within it. I'll leave such speculation with ideas rooted in the scientific method. It's so much more flexible and using it to confirm or refute theories has shown itself to be much more reliable in describing and predicting the behavior of the universe and its contents.
If you have any interest in continuing this discussion, I suggest you give Mr. Dawkins a call and engage him. I'm done. Have a nice day.
That any advanced alien race has *ever* visited the vicinity of our world. As Douglas Adams put it, "Space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly hugely mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space."
That's not to say I don't think that extraterrestrial life exists. It almost certainly does. Is some of that life intelligent? Maybe. Is that intelligent life (barring superluminal space travel) close enough to our solar system to warrant sending a probe/ship/monolith? Unlikely, but possible.
I think someone was having trouble coming up with a good idea for a grant application and wrote up a proposal after watching 2001: A Space Odyssey.
All that said, if the data from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter is complete enough, it couldn't hurt to analyze the data to see if there's anything anomalous. In fact, I think it's a good idea. We will probably get some unexpected and possibly even interesting results that have nothing to do with extraterrestrial intelligence.
Really? You think its like a window washer doing the work on your car first then asking for money? Perhaps I misunderstand the current situation, but he doesn't seem to have installed it and the company doesn't seem to be using it already. I think it is much more akin to the guy who I pay to do my lawn deciding on his own time to design an irrigation system on his own time then comes to me and says he has designed it, and he would like to implement it but he wants to charge me for the design time. I can choose to pay or not, if I don't he doesn't owe me the system. He simply wasted his time designing something I didn't want to purchase. Again this assumes that the submitter has NOT deployed the system already, if he has its a whole different situation much closer to your perception.
I think you're absolutely correct. That's a much better analogy (even if there isn't a car involved :) ).
I think you're barking up the wrong tree here
i think you answered the question perfectly, but seemed to give the OP some meaning that he didn't have.
clearly he wants to know how to avoid getting rolled by his boss, and maximise his profits..
basically. tell your boss you've found a solution for an ongoing problem to your job, however its outside of your scope to impliment. you could ask for either an amendment to your contract (and a payrise) for the extra responsibility OR to sell the solution outright to your boss. but make sure he(/she) understands that there is no free lunches. basically talk to your boss as if someone else is selling the software and you're just found a good "deal",
On the whole I agree. However, he can't "get rolled by his boss" because his boss never asked him to perform this task. If the application actually had value and the OP offered it up as one more thing he's done to exceed expectations, and his boss was feeling generous (assuming there were funds to be generous with -- which the OP himself said there were not), he might get a bonus or even a promotion. That said, the organization is under no obligation to purchase *anything*, nor are they necessarily bound to pay any additional salary. As a general rule, exempt employees (which it sounds like the OP is) are paid the same regardless of whether that work is in the scope of their job description or how many hours they work.
As for "maximising his profits," this guy is an *employee*. If one of my employees tried (to use your term) to "roll" me by trying to sell me an application that is clearly directly related to his day-to-day responsibilities, regardless of the location or timing of the software development, I would start the process of replacing that employee. Why? Because the whole scenario just screams that this guy is only interested in squeezing whatever he thinks he can out of the organization. That makes him untrustworthy..
I'm guessing (based on the 's' in maximise) that you aren't an American. In the US, holding your employer over a barrel like that is usually frowned upon (I'm guessing that barring any laws to the contrary where you are, it's the same there) and, as a rule, the only compensation you can expect is your final paycheck and an escort to the building exit..
The Catholic church has supported the big bang theory pretty much since its inception, and has supported evolution for longer than most of us have been alive. Young Earth creationism can hardly be considered a key tenet of any faith, and I make no excuses for the people who believe in it. But, as I've said, the Catholic church, which represents well over a billion people, does not hold to those beliefs, let alone as key tenets. Please come up with a real example.
Sorry. It's late and I don't feel like hunting around for references to other examples. So you get insults instead. Have a nice day!
Why should I care what bunch of pedophiles believe? [ad hominem attack]
Besides, why should I care which specific set of bible nutters you identify with? You're all a bunch of bible thumping morons.[overly broad and unflattering generalization]
1) Inflate and scramble your codes such that they are totally incomprehensible by anyone but yourself 2) Hide expiry timers in your codes as many places as possible 3) Hand over your codes and promote them as next best thing since slice bread 4) Your gullible boss merrily decide to use your code without paying you a dime 5) Secretly remove any possibility of recovering old codes by removing the codebase backup 6) Ask for huge compensation before expiry, expect to receive stuckup noses 7) The day of expiry is the point you yell PROFIT!!!!
8) The day after expiry, start packing up your stuff, HR will be by shortly to have you escorted from the building.
Entitlement or exploitation? It's a fine line. Would you say the same thing if the terms were not monetary but instead based on the barter system and other goods were exchanged? I already have a military family background. I'm being practical. Why should one benefit at the other's expense without exchanging the means for the knowledge and expertise? They hired me and outlined my job description to the T. I abide by it. The fact that I have the ability to go beyond my job scope should be the merits used for salary negotiations. But as raises have been completely shut down for all non C-level people, what's the point of going beyond the scope? And don't feed me any of this greater good or terrible economy crap. The only way to get through a terrible economy in through self preservation and accumulating the necessities to weather the storm.
Let me get this straight:
1. You weren't tasked with or asked to create this application
2. You went ahead and did it anyway
3. You feel you should be compensated for work done entirely on your own initiative and without any request or direction from management?
That sounds an kind of like the guy who walks up to your car at the red light, washes your windshield and then asks for money. Even if the window was dirty, no one asked the guy to wash your windshield. Now you want someone to pay you for work they didn't ask to be done that you took upon yourself to do.
I'd say you have four choices (I won't address copyright or licensing as that's not what you talk about):
1. Ask for compensation and provide the application to your employer if you feel the offered remuneration is appropriate
2. Ask for compensation and provide the application to your employer regardless of compensation
3. Ask for compensation and withhold the application if you feel the offered remuneration isn't appropriate
4. Don't involve your employer with this application at all and then do whatever you think appropriate insofar as selling it on the open market, open-sourcing it, etc.
Because it was not requested or required, your employer is under no obligation to purchase the application from you, nor to compensate you for your time in developing the application, even if the application provides as much value as you say.
If I was your boss and I felt the application might have merit, I'd have you pilot it and then implement it in production if it passed muster. I'd then say, "thanks very much for this great tool. Now get back to work." I'd probably (if it were within my means) try to get you a (bigger) bonus and/or some extra time off and it would definitely improve your annual review, but I'm not going to pay one of my employees contracting fees just because he took it on himself to implement a tool that benefits him and his team.
I think you're barking up the wrong tree here