Because your scenario has all the reality of pretty pink unicorns.
1) People aren't going to rethink. People don't care. People would rather rationalize their action than admit the possibility of being wrong. People will be bribed to vote the desired way, election after election, and, yes, they will be bribed for $100, or even $10, in numbers large enough to swing election. We're talking about people who can't be bothered to take half-an-hour to vote in a convenient polling station, no matter what's at stake. And the money will be there. GWB spent *$360 million* on his 2004 election. At $10 a vote, that would have bought 36 million votes, in an election where 120 million voted. And, yes, I firmly believe he would have found plenty of takers at $10 a vote.
2) GWB will be impeached? Well, gee, he's got this Congress right here that he bought and paid for, same way he bought and paid for the Presidency. Who's going to impeach him?
Yep, the clerks will say that every time. Sure. I've seen retail clerks; mostly they barely have the mental wherewithal to manage just "Have a nice day." I would estimate they'd even attempt the "agreeing to this sale" spiel less then 10% of the time. Getting it right? Less then 5%. Maybe less than 2%.
Do you anyone who has a digital camera in his or hers mobile phone? I don't see how hard it could be to bribe someone and ask him/her to take a photo as a proof.
Mark the ballot for who the other party asked you to vote for, take the picture, then tell the poll worker you spoiled the ballot by accident. Poll worker takes the "spoiled" ballot and destroys it, gives you a fresh one. You fill out that one for who you want. Even easier for electronic voting, where the final confirmation screen says "You voted" and not "You voted for..." for this very reason.
I thought about this whole purchasing votes idea. I tried to imagine that I was one of the people who sold their vote. Let's say I sold it to Bush in '04. For example sake let's say now in '07 I really regret selling my vote to him because I think he's screwed up really badly. Maybe this next election I won't sell my vote, and in fact will go vote for who I think is the best. This is probably better than the original situation, in which I never would've voted at all.
So your argument for openly encouraging vote bribery is: "It gets the vote out, and maybe someday they won't vote the way they're bribed to." Wow. Just...wow.
So, my question is: what's wrong with everyone knowing what everyone else voted? Does it create bias in the workplace? Do Liberal bosses see their Conservative employees votes and thus not give them raises, or worse, in an at-will state such as mine, just fire them outright?
Is this the kind of person you want to be your boss anyway? Wouldn't the system naturally cleanse itself from people like that? Sure, at first it'd be a bumpy road and a lot of chaos would ensue, but it seems to be the final state of things would be a lot smoother than the state of not even knowing if your vote was counted right, or if the people counting the votes stacked them somehow. It just seems like hiding votes has always been a crutch.
But please, correct me if I'm wrong...
You're wrong, so I'm correcting you. I think you put aside the question of intimidation far too easily. But on top of that, there can also be carrots as well as sticks. How would you like it if your representative was elected because everyone who voted for him got $10? Oh, they can't prove anything; nobody figured out where the money came from. But it sure was a nice bonus for the people who voted the right way.
if you have a high grade audio system you *can* hear an audible difference.
That's nice. You're, what, two percent of the market? If that?
In any case, irrelevant. MP3s are enough for the masses, but the only segment not in the path of the digital steamroller is the vinyl freaks. A whole, uncompressed CD can be downloaded in an hour or two even on the slowest broadband connection. Less, if you use a lossless compression on it first. Raw CDs are as easy to send around as MP3s; they're just a little bigger.
SC drove me nuts precisely because you had so many units and that interface wasn't built for it. Templars were useless except to turn into archons since with 200 units, you can't even bother to cast spells.
Playing the game on "fastest" is not a built-in feature of the interface. Play at a slower speed and you'll find you have time to cast spells.
They are announcing that they have something in the works they can't say, and they will announce more on May 19th. Then he says that they have nothing to announce about starcraft. You could think that doesn't rule out the possibility that the May 19th announcement is starcraft, but it rules out the possibility that today's announcement is about starcraft, and todays announcement is about the future one. He's saying that he's announcing something, he can't say what it is, but it isn't startcraft.
You need to read what's written. He didn't say "we have nothing to say about Starcraft next month." He said "we have nothing to say about Starcraft *right now*."
There's this new thing called a "dictionary". They even have them online for free nowadays. According to www.dictionary.com (which pulled its entry from the Random House Unabridged) it's KAL-_kuh_-_juh_-nayhd as the preferred pronounciation, but you can also say kal-KOJ-_uh_-nayhd.
You want links exposing anti-Islamic bias of American government? Are you crazy?
No, that's not what he asked for. He asked for links, or at least some sort of evidence that is not a Sudanese government mouthpiece, that shows that said government is *not* participating in the mass slaughter in Darfur.
So you *won't* buy an electric car...if it's too expensive. Which it is (or was, we'll see what happens with the Volt). Which is why General Motors killed the EV1.
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Any Operating System will force you to reboot when the system itself has been patched. You'll never get away from that with current technology.
In Linux, you only need to reboot when you upgrade your kernel, which happens maybe two or three times a year. And then you only need to reboot once; major Windows upgrades seem to require you to reboot multiple times.
That's done in some places in the US, but it's politically difficult to do because the retail people hate it with a white-hot passion. Basically they view it as not only being forced to be trash pick-up points, but having to pay for the privilege on top of it.
> Some would say that any change would be better than what we have now.
The technical term for those people would be "idiots".
> Remember it took genocide by the Khmer Rouge (which I in no way condone) to bring democracy to > Cambodia, which is something the US has yet been able to accomplish through non-revolutionary change.
If you honestly think Cambodia (where the election are well and truly *actually* rigged) has more democracy than the US, I'm just going to have to assume you no longer have any connection with reality whatsoever.
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Because your scenario has all the reality of pretty pink unicorns.
1) People aren't going to rethink. People don't care. People would rather rationalize their action than admit the possibility of being wrong. People will be bribed to vote the desired way, election after election, and, yes, they will be bribed for $100, or even $10, in numbers large enough to swing election. We're talking about people who can't be bothered to take half-an-hour to vote in a convenient polling station, no matter what's at stake. And the money will be there. GWB spent *$360 million* on his 2004 election. At $10 a vote, that would have bought 36 million votes, in an election where 120 million voted. And, yes, I firmly believe he would have found plenty of takers at $10 a vote.
2) GWB will be impeached? Well, gee, he's got this Congress right here that he bought and paid for, same way he bought and paid for the Presidency. Who's going to impeach him?
Chris Mattern
Yep, the clerks will say that every time. Sure. I've seen retail clerks; mostly they barely have the mental wherewithal to manage just "Have a nice day." I would estimate they'd even attempt the "agreeing to this sale" spiel less then 10% of the time. Getting it right? Less then 5%. Maybe less than 2%.
Chris matttern
Mark the ballot for who the other party asked you to vote for, take the picture, then tell the poll worker you spoiled the ballot by accident. Poll worker takes the "spoiled" ballot and destroys it, gives you a fresh one. You fill out that one for who you want. Even easier for electronic voting, where the final confirmation screen says "You voted" and not "You voted for..." for this very reason.
Chris Mattern
So your argument for openly encouraging vote bribery is: "It gets the vote out, and maybe someday they won't vote the way they're bribed to." Wow. Just...wow.
Chris Mattern
You're wrong, so I'm correcting you. I think you put aside the question of intimidation far too easily. But on top of that, there can also be carrots as well as sticks. How would you like it if your representative was elected because everyone who voted for him got $10? Oh, they can't prove anything; nobody figured out where the money came from. But it sure was a nice bonus for the people who voted the right way.
Chris Mattern
Wild speculation without any actual facts to base it on... ...yep, it's a Zonk post.
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That's nice. You're, what, two percent of the market? If that?
In any case, irrelevant. MP3s are enough for the masses, but the only segment not in the path of the digital steamroller is the vinyl freaks. A whole, uncompressed CD can be downloaded in an hour or two even on the slowest broadband connection. Less, if you use a lossless compression on it first. Raw CDs are as easy to send around as MP3s; they're just a little bigger.
Chris mattern
But do they really want the acronym SOS?
Chris Mattern
Playing the game on "fastest" is not a built-in feature of the interface. Play at a slower speed and you'll find you have time to cast spells.
Chris Mattern
Wow, that's like, Zen, man.
What's the sound of one game announcing?
Chris Mattern
You need to read what's written. He didn't say "we have nothing to say about Starcraft next month." He said "we have nothing to say about Starcraft *right now*."
Chris Mattern
Not really. They don't have anything new to announce at present. Next month, maybe they will.
Chris Mattern
That's because SCO made the stupid mistake of picking on somebody who can afford even *better* lawyers...
Chris Mattern
"C'mon people, you call that indifference?"
Chris Mattern
There's this new thing called a "dictionary". They even have them online for free nowadays. According to www.dictionary.com (which pulled its entry from the Random House Unabridged) it's KAL-_kuh_-_juh_-nayhd as the preferred pronounciation, but you can also say kal-KOJ-_uh_-nayhd.
Chris Mattern
Microsoft declared that they are not crashes at all; they are "rest breaks".
Chris mattern
No, that's not what he asked for. He asked for links, or at least some sort of evidence that is not a Sudanese government mouthpiece, that shows that said government is *not* participating in the mass slaughter in Darfur.
Chris Mattern
That...can be arranged.
CHris Mattern
So you *won't* buy an electric car...if it's too expensive. Which it is (or was, we'll see what happens with the Volt). Which is why General Motors killed the EV1.
Chris Mattern
In Linux, you only need to reboot when you upgrade your kernel, which happens maybe two or three times a year. And then you only need to reboot once; major Windows upgrades seem to require you to reboot multiple times.
Chris Mattern
I'm kinda amazed it didn't get co-opted by people making pages about cats...
Chris Mattern
Not as nasty, but more corrupt.
Chris Mattern
That's done in some places in the US, but it's politically difficult to do because the retail people hate it with a white-hot passion. Basically they view it as not only being forced to be trash pick-up points, but having to pay for the privilege on top of it.
Chris Mattern
No, it doesn't stay the same. Sometimes it gets better. Sometimes it gets worse. It helps to think about which direction it's going in.
Chris Mattern
> Some would say that any change would be better than what we have now.
The technical term for those people would be "idiots".
> Remember it took genocide by the Khmer Rouge (which I in no way condone) to bring democracy to
> Cambodia, which is something the US has yet been able to accomplish through non-revolutionary change.
If you honestly think Cambodia (where the election are well and truly *actually* rigged) has more
democracy than the US, I'm just going to have to assume you no longer have any connection with
reality whatsoever.
Chris Mattern