WHY would you assume that? Just from the blurb the poster included it immediately seems the kind of oversight that would have the POTENTIAL at least to affect multiple systems.
It's called dogmatism.
There's a significant number of Open Source advocates, including nearly all Slashdot editors, who take it as an article of religious faith that Linux has no bugs, Windows has three bugs per line of code, and other operating systems simply do not exist.
Thus, when they see "flaw found in...", they automatically assume it must be in Windows, and if it ever occured in Linux, it must have been fixed a long long time ago.
No, I'm not on drugs. I'm conducting an experiment instead.
I post the most hyperbolic post I can imagine, then see how many people believe I'm serious. Why? To demonstrate that Slashdot readers wouldn't recognize sarcasm if it bit them on the scrotum.
Actually it's about freedom. The fact that choice/duplication of effort is often a side effect of freedom isn't really what it's about
Freedom is choice. If I am unable to choose then I have no freedom. They are two sides of the same coin. Anyone who limits my choice also limits my freedom. Freedom is about me making my own choices, and not about you making choices for me.
The only way you can make eliminate my choice of browser is by eliminating Free Software.
Nope, no tabs. Which means that I won't use it even if it were so advanced it could cook my dinner, then clean the dishes afterwards. There's no way in the world the public is going to accept it without tabs.
Wow! You just blew right over my sarcasm. I keep forgetting that Slashdot readers are humour impaired, and are incapable of recognizing it without several dozen emoticons.
Gecko has a larger install base with existing Netscape, Moz, Chameleon, Galeon, and Phoenix installs, and is more likely, with AOL converts, to have a larger market share and have more 'feature-rich' pages designed to render properly in it. Both are cross-platform.
Hmmm, good arguments for keeping Internet Exploder! Larger installed based, larger market share, more 'feature-rich' pages, and cross-platform.
You're nucking futs! If you don't believe me, I'll sue you for creating a derivative work of this post upon your optic nerves!
Geez! Acroread, Mozilla, et al, are NOT derivative works! At most, the RAM on the computer holds a copy, clearly allowed under copyright law, fair use, and several court cases.
Because a monoculture is bad. If you don't think it is, then why aren't you using Windows?
It is not a good thing that Unix-in-general has standardized on a single implementation of C/C++. The biggest example was the poor state of C++ under gcc five years ago. It was b0rked major. C++ programmers were told to stay away from Unix. To this day Unix people still associate C++ with Microsoft. It wasn't until Cygnus created the egcs fork that GNU woke up and realized that the world didn't revolve around C.
At work we had a guy spend a year porting code written for gcc-2.7 to gcc-2.9. Obviously a lot of this time was spent in regression testing, but a significant portion was simply trying to get it to build. Another major portion of his time was spent rewriting code that depended on 2.7 behavior that no longer exist.
Hear hear! Let's hear it for plain vanilla Bourne Shell! And I don't mean that brain damaged symlink to bash that Linux distros think they're being oh so clever with.
sh is available on every Unix and unix-clone there is, out of the box. No need to install bash before you can get some work done. No need to put Perl or Python in the base system. It's small, it's fast, it works and it is a standard.
About a year ago I spent a month converting a bunch of bash-1 scripts to plain Bourne Shell. They could have easily been written in sh to begin with, but the guy who first did them was a Linux weenie and that bash was a standard shell. Then the systems in question got upgraded, bash-1 went away, and all the maintenance scripts broke like a newlywed's bank account.
WINE offers binary compatibility. So you need to buy a PC pased computer running Windows. And who is the largest seller of Windows for PCs... Microsoft; so why not just Windows?
Huh? If I make my GPL derived code available under both the GPL and the MIT license, then I have removed the condition that the GPL must be available to any code derived from mine, because the conditions in the MIT license could be used instead. And that certainly is not the case.
they'll obviously be kicking themselves soon, having invested several billion in Dotnet. Rumor has it they're even coding the next version of Office in C#!
My sole experience so far with DotNot has been Visual Studio.NET.
Aaargh! The only thing that makes it functional is that the core components (editor, compiler, etc) are still in C/C++. The.NET interface layered over it is so abysmally slow it's not even funny. Click a tab, five seconds later the window slides out...
Does Microsoft care that.NET will be usuable? Probably not. Just take a look at Windows to see their emphasis on usability and functionality. But even if they do, they may be operating under the same false assumption that the Java advocates of the 90's were: that future processors will be fast enough to make up for the sluggishness.
That was the promise of the Corel Java office suite. I've got a 1.4Ghz system with 512MB RAM and 64MB on my video card, yet even "small" ArgoUML runs like a dog that ate rancid molasses.
Do you know what the most wonderful thing about freedom is? You are free to reject it.
If you don't want full control over your system, you don't have to. Choose to use WinXP, Lindows or MacOSX instead.
But don't think for one minute you are going to decide for the rest of us whether we will be free or not. If we choose to use Slackware, Debian, FreeBSD, Gentoo, or any of the other systems that give us full control over our own property, then that is our business. It affects you not. So go away.
Otherwise you would have to make sure you left the mouse parked in a neutral area. It would be pretty damned annoying to keep having audio kick in while you're doing something else.
Did these guys even think of the ramifications? Did they do any usability? Or did they think, "gee whiz, let's do it"?
Years ago amidst the First Java Hype, it was promised that there would be an office suite written entirely in Java.
I'm still waiting for it.
Until Java is fast enough to run real world applications with no latency or sluggishness, C and C++ will continue to rule the application universe.
What's that? Java is just as fast as C? Then where's that damn office suite I've been promised! Heck, just a word processor with the feature set of AbiWord would be amazing.
Let me guess, you are a newbie still green behind the ears. I can tell because you have missed the most important factor in Free Software development: freedom.
Freedom means you cannot force me to move away from the X Windows System, force distributions to offer only one desktop, or prevent me from using (or creating) source-based distros and systems.
Freedom is synonymous with self-reliance. With plain text files I am self-reliant because I can fully and completely administer my own system. I get to be the guy in charge, instead of the guy at WhinyLinux, Inc. who decides which configuration options aren't popular enough to warrant accessibility in the GUI.
But Dr. Pepper isn't number one or two! It will die unless it's number one or two. If it can't build up enough momentum to overtake Pepsi, then it will be relegated to the dustbin of history, with only hackers drinking it.
Seriously, can you name three auto manufacturers? Easy. Can you name three television manufacturers? Easy. Can you name three fast food chains? Easy.
I don't know where the parent poster got the absurd idea that only number one or two will make it in the market, because it's absurdly wrong.
I can't tell you how many times I've had to help users find some file, shortcut, document or spreadsheet that they've "lost" because they forgot the correct path.
Okay, time to let my elitism out into the sun a bit. It's starting to wilt in the shade...
If those users are so stupid that they can't organize their own work, what makes you think they are smart enough to use proper metatags and attributes?
The schmuck that files all memos under "M" in the file cabinet is the same schmuck that stores all their emails in the "emails" folder, and will probably file all future communications under a "neat ideas" attribute of newdocms.
A different way of organizing things is good, but it won't help people who can't organize to begin with.
Actually, the internet was already around by the time the politicians voted to spend money on it. It may not have been called the internet, and it may not have had all the technical characteristics it does today, but it was there.
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WHY would you assume that? Just from the blurb the poster included it immediately seems the kind of oversight that would have the POTENTIAL at least to affect multiple systems.
It's called dogmatism.
There's a significant number of Open Source advocates, including nearly all Slashdot editors, who take it as an article of religious faith that Linux has no bugs, Windows has three bugs per line of code, and other operating systems simply do not exist.
Thus, when they see "flaw found in...", they automatically assume it must be in Windows, and if it ever occured in Linux, it must have been fixed a long long time ago.
Does OpenOffice lack confidence in their own word processor?
OpenOffice didn't create this CD, Daemon News did.
No, I'm not on drugs. I'm conducting an experiment instead.
I post the most hyperbolic post I can imagine, then see how many people believe I'm serious. Why? To demonstrate that Slashdot readers wouldn't recognize sarcasm if it bit them on the scrotum.
I can't believe they would not adopt Chimera
I can't believe people are actually whining over this. If you don't want to use Safari then use Chimera! Geez...
Actually it's about freedom. The fact that choice/duplication of effort is often a side effect of freedom isn't really what it's about
Freedom is choice. If I am unable to choose then I have no freedom. They are two sides of the same coin. Anyone who limits my choice also limits my freedom. Freedom is about me making my own choices, and not about you making choices for me.
The only way you can make eliminate my choice of browser is by eliminating Free Software.
Nope, no tabs. Which means that I won't use it even if it were so advanced it could cook my dinner, then clean the dishes afterwards. There's no way in the world the public is going to accept it without tabs.
Wow! You just blew right over my sarcasm. I keep forgetting that Slashdot readers are humour impaired, and are incapable of recognizing it without several dozen emoticons.
Gecko has a larger install base with existing Netscape, Moz, Chameleon, Galeon, and Phoenix installs, and is more likely, with AOL converts, to have a larger market share and have more 'feature-rich' pages designed to render properly in it. Both are cross-platform.
Hmmm, good arguments for keeping Internet Exploder! Larger installed based, larger market share, more 'feature-rich' pages, and cross-platform.
You're nucking futs! If you don't believe me, I'll sue you for creating a derivative work of this post upon your optic nerves!
Geez! Acroread, Mozilla, et al, are NOT derivative works! At most, the RAM on the computer holds a copy, clearly allowed under copyright law, fair use, and several court cases.
Because a monoculture is bad. If you don't think it is, then why aren't you using Windows?
It is not a good thing that Unix-in-general has standardized on a single implementation of C/C++. The biggest example was the poor state of C++ under gcc five years ago. It was b0rked major. C++ programmers were told to stay away from Unix. To this day Unix people still associate C++ with Microsoft. It wasn't until Cygnus created the egcs fork that GNU woke up and realized that the world didn't revolve around C.
At work we had a guy spend a year porting code written for gcc-2.7 to gcc-2.9. Obviously a lot of this time was spent in regression testing, but a significant portion was simply trying to get it to build. Another major portion of his time was spent rewriting code that depended on 2.7 behavior that no longer exist.
Hear hear! Let's hear it for plain vanilla Bourne Shell! And I don't mean that brain damaged symlink to bash that Linux distros think they're being oh so clever with.
sh is available on every Unix and unix-clone there is, out of the box. No need to install bash before you can get some work done. No need to put Perl or Python in the base system. It's small, it's fast, it works and it is a standard.
About a year ago I spent a month converting a bunch of bash-1 scripts to plain Bourne Shell. They could have easily been written in sh to begin with, but the guy who first did them was a Linux weenie and that bash was a standard shell. Then the systems in question got upgraded, bash-1 went away, and all the maintenance scripts broke like a newlywed's bank account.
Why was this even posted? First Slashdot posts erroneous stories. Then they start making up stories. Now they post the most trivial of stories.
"Ho hum. Another slow news day. Let's roll some dice and post a minor random security advisory from some random project and pretend it's news."
WINE offers binary compatibility. So you need to buy a PC pased computer running Windows. And who is the largest seller of Windows for PCs... Microsoft; so why not just Windows?
Huh? If I make my GPL derived code available under both the GPL and the MIT license, then I have removed the condition that the GPL must be available to any code derived from mine, because the conditions in the MIT license could be used instead. And that certainly is not the case.
My recent experience is that, for every C++ job, there are between two and two-and-a-half Java jobs.
Yeah, but for every Java job, there are two and a half interesting and challenging C++ jobs!
Face it, Java is a nice language (better than C++ in most respects), but the jobs that come with it tend to be bottom of the barrel.
If some things activate with a hover and other things don't then you've b0rked the UI
Absolutely!
they'll obviously be kicking themselves soon, having invested several billion in Dotnet. Rumor has it they're even coding the next version of Office in C#!
.NET.
.NET interface layered over it is so abysmally slow it's not even funny. Click a tab, five seconds later the window slides out...
.NET will be usuable? Probably not. Just take a look at Windows to see their emphasis on usability and functionality. But even if they do, they may be operating under the same false assumption that the Java advocates of the 90's were: that future processors will be fast enough to make up for the sluggishness.
My sole experience so far with DotNot has been Visual Studio
Aaargh! The only thing that makes it functional is that the core components (editor, compiler, etc) are still in C/C++. The
Does Microsoft care that
That was the promise of the Corel Java office suite. I've got a 1.4Ghz system with 512MB RAM and 64MB on my video card, yet even "small" ArgoUML runs like a dog that ate rancid molasses.
Do you know what the most wonderful thing about freedom is? You are free to reject it.
If you don't want full control over your system, you don't have to. Choose to use WinXP, Lindows or MacOSX instead.
But don't think for one minute you are going to decide for the rest of us whether we will be free or not. If we choose to use Slackware, Debian, FreeBSD, Gentoo, or any of the other systems that give us full control over our own property, then that is our business. It affects you not. So go away.
There had better be a way to turn it off!
Otherwise you would have to make sure you left the mouse parked in a neutral area. It would be pretty damned annoying to keep having audio kick in while you're doing something else.
Did these guys even think of the ramifications? Did they do any usability? Or did they think, "gee whiz, let's do it"?
but hold you mouse over a music file and it plays.
Hold if over a movie and it plays.
Gawd I hope that's not on by default! I'm getting the heebie jeebies just thinking about it...
Years ago amidst the First Java Hype, it was promised that there would be an office suite written entirely in Java.
I'm still waiting for it.
Until Java is fast enough to run real world applications with no latency or sluggishness, C and C++ will continue to rule the application universe.
What's that? Java is just as fast as C? Then where's that damn office suite I've been promised! Heck, just a word processor with the feature set of AbiWord would be amazing.
Let me guess, you are a newbie still green behind the ears. I can tell because you have missed the most important factor in Free Software development: freedom.
Freedom means you cannot force me to move away from the X Windows System, force distributions to offer only one desktop, or prevent me from using (or creating) source-based distros and systems.
Freedom is synonymous with self-reliance. With plain text files I am self-reliant because I can fully and completely administer my own system. I get to be the guy in charge, instead of the guy at WhinyLinux, Inc. who decides which configuration options aren't popular enough to warrant accessibility in the GUI.
But Dr. Pepper isn't number one or two! It will die unless it's number one or two. If it can't build up enough momentum to overtake Pepsi, then it will be relegated to the dustbin of history, with only hackers drinking it.
Seriously, can you name three auto manufacturers? Easy. Can you name three television manufacturers? Easy. Can you name three fast food chains? Easy.
I don't know where the parent poster got the absurd idea that only number one or two will make it in the market, because it's absurdly wrong.
I can't tell you how many times I've had to help users find some file, shortcut, document or spreadsheet that they've "lost" because they forgot the correct path.
Okay, time to let my elitism out into the sun a bit. It's starting to wilt in the shade...
If those users are so stupid that they can't organize their own work, what makes you think they are smart enough to use proper metatags and attributes?
The schmuck that files all memos under "M" in the file cabinet is the same schmuck that stores all their emails in the "emails" folder, and will probably file all future communications under a "neat ideas" attribute of newdocms.
A different way of organizing things is good, but it won't help people who can't organize to begin with.
Actually, the internet was already around by the time the politicians voted to spend money on it. It may not have been called the internet, and it may not have had all the technical characteristics it does today, but it was there.