IMHO, it was much better when it was the Trenton State College computer fest (allegedly one of the oldest) and actually held in the school parking lot. It's very commercial now - used to be you could find all kinds of cool stuff there.
How do you tella judge what they can and can't look at in the course of their duties? If they're working on a case that involves online porn they may need to visit the site!
I called them several years ago about buying their stuff to create a local version and they wouldn't even condescend to talk to me. Maybe if they weren't so anal about how they rolled it out they would have had a chance. F*** 'em.
Take a while to research the system, and think about the technologies involved and the operational capabilities of each, and you'll quickly realize this story is pure propaganda.
Whether Joe Conason was correct is open to debate; for you to call it "progaganda" seems to color your own comments. It's a valid question, and as the public has been sold a bill of goods on more than one occasion we have the right to vigilant in questioning how these tests are done.
I can tell you with some authority that the government pays particular attention to the
conditions of the test.
Hmm, ok, so what about the Sgt York tank specs that went from shooting down high-speed fighters on a foggy night to shooting down a hovering helicopter at 500 yards in the middle of the day? What happened on that one?
Sorry, but I've personally seen military guys (supported by well-meaning procurement guys like yourself) sign off on software that didn't even exist, much less work.
The fact that this test is being conducted "in the clear" should calm the fears of the most ardent conspiracy theorist.
Oh I see, they're going to put all the test data on the web so we can all look and verify, right? That'll scare those terrorists silly. No, something tells me they tell us just what they want us to know. Some things never change.
They may have got it right, but let's face it, there's no way for us to really verify anything.
I was working for Harvey's Pro Audio and we had a SMPTE timecode-based audio/video editing system using BTX synchronizers. Harvey's was trying to sell us to BTX, so the BTX company president, chief sales guys, and heads of engineering were there to watch us demo the program. It was running on a PDP-11 with the debugger under control of a 2nd PDP, which is where I had started it up.
When it crashed (as we surely knew it would) I said "Oops, sorry guys I must've hit the debugger halt key over here" and we re-started and completed the demo. BTX eventually hired me even though they didn't take the rest of the company or program. When I went to work for BTX in Boston my new boss, the head of engineering, said "By the way, nice move with the debugger during the demo".
Forget the "amerikan corporate government" - you should know that a good percentage of the average guys in my neighborhood bar would be quite OK with nuking the entire Mideast (then we could just take the oil) and taking out China to boot. Just because we're tired of hearing a bunch of crap like this. The only thing saving you is we love Oriental women, and that nifty cheap furniture at Pier One.
s a rhetorical question, I think it would be fine if we spent the $300 on the EFF, but in my own life, I plan on depositing it back into my general account and using it for my day-to-day expenses.
Hey, if you can still get more than 1 day out of $300 you're better off than me.
When it comes right down to it we as citzens should have and did get a tax refund because it was morally imperative.
Well, you know morality can be funny sometimes. Some people think it's morally right to pay bills outstanding, of which we have quite a bit - they're called Medicare and Social Security. And so can financial forecasts - all the surplus money that was supposed to pay for this cut isn't going to be there. Isn't really there now.
At the end of the year I will donate my $100 to the EFF like I do every year,
Well said, I'm with you on that. We have to be in it for the long haul and grind the bastards down.
Yes, I've written C++ cgi too and quite like it thank you, but it doesn't get executed in the browser, it runs on the server. The user doesn't know or care. As fas as I know the only C++ that gets executed in a browser is ActiveX controls.
That's usually what *I* say to people who complain about porn spam, but I was on SpeedVision.com from work the other day (NEVER visited ANYTHING remotely porn-like, just CNN and the NYTimes) and got a full-size pop-up (so to speak) from www.twistedhumor.com for PIE ("Practically Illegal Entertainment") which was flush with "erotic" fare. I sent SpeedVision an email saying "Hey guys, thanks for endangering my job".
Now I do what someone here suggested - I put the offenders in my host file and the pop-up goes nowhere.
Linux has great support for sound cards, video cards
Well it would be pretty tough to use at all without support for video cards, and there are enuf people who live for video games to produce sound card support, but do you really think scanners are exotic?
I mean point well-taken re. checking before you buy, but at $80 ea. and available for oh, about 10 years now they're hardly unheard of to the average Windows home user.
_Everyone_ is an asshole on forums, not just linux users.
Yes and no. There are certainly zealots on every platform, but something about the attitude that everyone should give up their hard work for free seems to bring out an even lower level of flamers. I don't know if HP is moved by nasty names or not, but you have to know there are real people at those companies that read that stuff, and real people will on occasion get tired of it. If they're the ones pushing Open Source at HP and get rewarded with nasty insults they may just decide it's not worth it.
They've been doing their best to kill Java for years now and it didn't work. With the lawsuit out of the way anyone interested in Java at least knows to just go with Sun - there's no more Visual J++ to confuse the issue. It's not just about web surfers - how many web pages execute C++ cgi? Does that mean C++ is dead? Not a bit.
I was at the Audio Engineering Society meetings when they were just coming out with CDs, and the consensus was it was OK but the sampling should be 2-4 times higher, with more bits. Now we're there in the pro world, it'll eventually filter down. At the time they just couldn't fit anymore on a CD and get the playing times they wanted. There were also people there trying to prove that you would lose your "life force" by listening to them (using a known parlor trick I might add).
But the CD is definitely something lame for audiophile experts
I've heard this before but I think it has more to do with the personal history and prejudice (and dollars spent?) of the "experts" than anything real. 16 bits is 96DB. Find me a vinyl LP that gives that without about 10db of surface noise!
Maybe if you have a $10k turntable, but otherwise it's just not true in my experience. I regularly listen to the CD version of something I have on LP and hear stuff that was barely there on the original. Maybe some is becuase it was pumped up a bit if they re-mastered, but not all.
And electronic music on vinyl? More punchy? I recently picked up Weather Report's Heavy Weather, and Joe Zawinul's Oberheim is WAY punchier than the vinyl version.
Sorry boss, but I ain't going back even if I DO lose some "life force".
Well IANAL and all, but I think the "gaim" guys don't have a leg to stand on. As with KIllustrator it's about as blatant as you can be in infringing the known mark. Ask yourself, how do you know what kind of program "GAIM" is? Because you know what "AIM" is. Simple as that. 30 million people know what AIM is, compared to how many for GAIM? So which would be the "famous mark"?
If they wanted to protect it then they should've filed for the trademark themselves. It typically costs under $2k, which is less than they need to come up with now to defend themselves. So if you think they have the best chance, which is actually no chance at all... well, you figure it out.
Let face it folks, it costs nothing to name a program creatively. If you're making an open version of something that's already around and owned by a big company with deep pockets do yourself a favor and call it "Fred" or something.
I'd say the good news is he got $1700 in help, the bad news is AOL has about $10,000,000,000 and they're completely correct in that GAIM infrincges their trademark. IMHO he doesn't have a prayer of winning - the contributions couldn't been better spent on other things. Donate to EFF instead.
I'm sorry, but you just can't tell people with a straight face that this $1800 machine with the 450Mhz processor is better than a $1000 Dell with a 1G processor. Yeah, talk all you want about the instruction level efficiency but it's hard to buy that you get 2-for-one under anything but some special PhotoShop code sequences.
And if you ARE going to sell on the basis of looks then don't make plastic cases that crack!
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IMHO, it was much better when it was the Trenton State College computer fest (allegedly one of the oldest) and actually held in the school parking lot. It's very commercial now - used to be you could find all kinds of cool stuff there.
How do you tella judge what they can and can't look at in the course of their duties? If they're working on a case that involves online porn they may need to visit the site!
Cool. Our best defense against this stuff is when it starts to affect judges, prosecutors and Conress-critters.
I called them several years ago about buying their stuff to create a local version and they wouldn't even condescend to talk to me. Maybe if they weren't so anal about how they rolled it out they would have had a chance. F*** 'em.
Take a while to research the system, and think about the technologies involved and the operational capabilities of each, and you'll quickly realize this story is pure propaganda.
Whether Joe Conason was correct is open to debate; for you to call it "progaganda" seems to color your own comments. It's a valid question, and as the public has been sold a bill of goods on more than one occasion we have the right to vigilant in questioning how these tests are done.
I can tell you with some authority that the government pays particular attention to the
conditions of the test.
Hmm, ok, so what about the Sgt York tank specs that went from shooting down high-speed fighters on a foggy night to shooting down a hovering helicopter at 500 yards in the middle of the day? What happened on that one?
Sorry, but I've personally seen military guys (supported by well-meaning procurement guys like yourself) sign off on software that didn't even exist, much less work.
The fact that this test is being conducted "in the clear" should calm the fears of the most ardent conspiracy theorist.
Oh I see, they're going to put all the test data on the web so we can all look and verify, right? That'll scare those terrorists silly. No, something tells me they tell us just what they want us to know. Some things never change.
They may have got it right, but let's face it, there's no way for us to really verify anything.
I was working for Harvey's Pro Audio and we had a SMPTE timecode-based audio/video editing system using BTX synchronizers. Harvey's was trying to sell us to BTX, so the BTX company president, chief sales guys, and heads of engineering were there to watch us demo the program. It was running on a PDP-11 with the debugger under control of a 2nd PDP, which is where I had started it up.
When it crashed (as we surely knew it would) I said "Oops, sorry guys I must've hit the debugger halt key over here" and we re-started and completed the demo. BTX eventually hired me even though they didn't take the rest of the company or program. When I went to work for BTX in Boston my new boss, the head of engineering, said "By the way, nice move with the debugger during the demo".
Ah, on the Internet no one knows yer a dog...
Forget the "amerikan corporate government" - you should know that a good percentage of the average guys in my neighborhood bar would be quite OK with nuking the entire Mideast (then we could just take the oil) and taking out China to boot. Just because we're tired of hearing a bunch of crap like this. The only thing saving you is we love Oriental women, and that nifty cheap furniture at Pier One.
Whoops, guess I read that wrong, but hey it seems to work anyway...
Here's a link with their phone numbers (all 202 area code):
http://clerkweb.house.gov/107/mcapdir.php3
s a rhetorical question, I think it would be fine if we spent the $300 on the EFF, but in my own life, I plan on depositing it back into my general account and using it for my day-to-day expenses.
Hey, if you can still get more than 1 day out of $300 you're better off than me.
When it comes right down to it we as citzens should have and did get a tax refund because it was morally imperative.
Well, you know morality can be funny sometimes. Some people think it's morally right to pay bills outstanding, of which we have quite a bit - they're called Medicare and Social Security. And so can financial forecasts - all the surplus money that was supposed to pay for this cut isn't going to be there. Isn't really there now.
At the end of the year I will donate my $100 to the EFF like I do every year,
Well said, I'm with you on that. We have to be in it for the long haul and grind the bastards down.
Yes, I've written C++ cgi too and quite like it thank you, but it doesn't get executed in the browser, it runs on the server. The user doesn't know or care. As fas as I know the only C++ that gets executed in a browser is ActiveX controls.
That's usually what *I* say to people who complain about porn spam, but I was on SpeedVision.com from work the other day (NEVER visited ANYTHING remotely porn-like, just CNN and the NYTimes) and got a full-size pop-up (so to speak) from www.twistedhumor.com for PIE ("Practically Illegal Entertainment") which was flush with "erotic" fare. I sent SpeedVision an email saying "Hey guys, thanks for endangering my job".
Now I do what someone here suggested - I put the offenders in my host file and the pop-up goes nowhere.
Linux has great support for sound cards, video cards
Well it would be pretty tough to use at all without support for video cards, and there are enuf people who live for video games to produce sound card support, but do you really think scanners are exotic?
I mean point well-taken re. checking before you buy, but at $80 ea. and available for oh, about 10 years now they're hardly unheard of to the average Windows home user.
_Everyone_ is an asshole on forums, not just linux users.
Yes and no. There are certainly zealots on every platform, but something about the attitude that everyone should give up their hard work for free seems to bring out an even lower level of flamers. I don't know if HP is moved by nasty names or not, but you have to know there are real people at those companies that read that stuff, and real people will on occasion get tired of it. If they're the ones pushing Open Source at HP and get rewarded with nasty insults they may just decide it's not worth it.
They've been doing their best to kill Java for years now and it didn't work. With the lawsuit out of the way anyone interested in Java at least knows to just go with Sun - there's no more Visual J++ to confuse the issue. It's not just about web surfers - how many web pages execute C++ cgi? Does that mean C++ is dead? Not a bit.
i thought .Net was supposed to be language neutral!
Things may change with SCD (24 bits, 96 khz)
I was at the Audio Engineering Society meetings when they were just coming out with CDs, and the consensus was it was OK but the sampling should be 2-4 times higher, with more bits. Now we're there in the pro world, it'll eventually filter down. At the time they just couldn't fit anymore on a CD and get the playing times they wanted. There were also people there trying to prove that you would lose your "life force" by listening to them (using a known parlor trick I might add).
But the CD is definitely something lame for audiophile experts
I've heard this before but I think it has more to do with the personal history and prejudice (and dollars spent?) of the "experts" than anything real. 16 bits is 96DB. Find me a vinyl LP that gives that without about 10db of surface noise!
Maybe if you have a $10k turntable, but otherwise it's just not true in my experience. I regularly listen to the CD version of something I have on LP and hear stuff that was barely there on the original. Maybe some is becuase it was pumped up a bit if they re-mastered, but not all.
And electronic music on vinyl? More punchy? I recently picked up Weather Report's Heavy Weather, and Joe Zawinul's Oberheim is WAY punchier than the vinyl version.
Sorry boss, but I ain't going back even if I DO lose some "life force".
...and sometimes there's one guy that walks away with the whole pot. That was, and apparently continues to be, Bill Gates.
But still I think their greed with the licensing fees wil eventually drive people to open alternatives.
This reminds me of the skit where they say "And today we're going to learn how to cure all the world's diseases and build a suspension bridge"!
"First, you do briliantly in medical school then invent a vaccine for everything!
To make the bridge, string a few miles of steel cables across the North Atlantic and drive over it!"
Learn C, then C++. (Notice the name.)
Well IANAL and all, but I think the "gaim" guys don't have a leg to stand on. As with KIllustrator it's about as blatant as you can be in infringing the known mark. Ask yourself, how do you know what kind of program "GAIM" is? Because you know what "AIM" is. Simple as that. 30 million people know what AIM is, compared to how many for GAIM? So which would be the "famous mark"?
If they wanted to protect it then they should've filed for the trademark themselves. It typically costs under $2k, which is less than they need to come up with now to defend themselves. So if you think they have the best chance, which is actually no chance at all... well, you figure it out.
Let face it folks, it costs nothing to name a program creatively. If you're making an open version of something that's already around and owned by a big company with deep pockets do yourself a favor and call it "Fred" or something.
I'd say the good news is he got $1700 in help, the bad news is AOL has about $10,000,000,000 and they're completely correct in that GAIM infrincges their trademark. IMHO he doesn't have a prayer of winning - the contributions couldn't been better spent on other things. Donate to EFF instead.
You missed the line about installing them in the bedroom?
Yeah, they're being produced but by the time you can see them you can't pick them up because they've entered a different quantum reality.
I'm sorry, but you just can't tell people with a straight face that this $1800 machine with the 450Mhz processor is better than a $1000 Dell with a 1G processor. Yeah, talk all you want about the instruction level efficiency but it's hard to buy that you get 2-for-one under anything but some special PhotoShop code sequences.
And if you ARE going to sell on the basis of looks then don't make plastic cases that crack!
Starting with your username, I would think. :-)
Jah love mon!
Wasn't that Erin Gray?
She STILL looks good!