I don't LIKE pickups. I like to be able to get to the back without going outside and opening the cap. And what's the big diff. between a full-size pickup and an SUV?
What about my '68 Caddy, do I have to get rid of that too because some ****ing eco-terrorist has decided it's evil? What if I don't even drive it, just sit in it drinking beer while listening to the 8-track in the garage? Will they take that into account before torching it?
Is a Porsche OK because it gets good mileage, or evil because you want to take it out on long drives to nowhere? Where does it stop?
Here's the deal: you don't get to destroy other peoples property. Period.
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IMHO there's absolutely no reason to buy one.
Well, I have an old one to drive when it's really stormy, there's torrential rain, wind is knocking down tree parts and I don't want to risk my expensive toys - good enough for you? And it's just the thing to tow a boat, if I can ever afford one.
Unquestionably most of the people driving them should be in station-wagons instead, but to say there's no reason at all is sort of silly.
Actually I've read accounts that indicated a large population of the country was working for the Stasi secret police by the time they went down. They just intimidated everyone into reporting on their neighbors, friends and families, so you couldn't trust anyone. The "burden" of that didn't bring them down; it was the fall of the Soviet economy and a crazy situation at the Berlin Wall that brought it to a close.
And there are still people there that miss the old days.
Paranoia is a healthy thing. In small doses.
Yes, but also (as Woody Allen said):
"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean somebody's not after you."
I think it was around the same time the GOP and Moral (Moron) Majority made "liberal" a cuss-word. I think that as our population increases and the media pounces on every single lurid crime average people tend to think things are much worse than they really are, and so are willing to accept these things. And of course you always have these fools that say "if you haven't done anything there'll be no problem" as if we haven't had numerous death row inmates freed after DNA proved they weren't guilty.
Yes, I can explain. I have several look-alikes and a common name. It's quite possible I'd end up underneath a well-meaning cop trying to explain I'm not THAT "xxxx". What if you look like a local notorious figure? Are you going to be stopped and "explained about the situation" each and every time you walk through there? The software's going to get a match each time. Can you imagine being harrassed (and potentially shot) every time you went to work, or to the market? I find your comment seriously naive.
If he keeps pushing Ralf off the course on the first term family dinners at Chez Schumacher are going to be a little tense!
I have to wonder about the officiating at that race - Ralf was punished harshly for something Michael also did to an extent. I wonder if they'd didn't want to make sure it would be a nice clear victory for Michael? Wouldn't look nice if the two brothers knocked each other off in their home GP!
Professional programmers are by definition being paid by their day job which leaves them able to give away their off-hours open source work. Full-time free-lance writers aren't in the same position. The writing IS their only job. They don't have a corporate sugar-daddy paying the bills while they write for enjoyment.
Web exposure == free advertising == increased name recognition == increased print sales. I'm also not sure your formula is applicable here; people buy the NY Times no matter who's in there. Since there are so many articles by different people you're probably not buying it for one particular author, and those authors are probably not paid more if sales go up, so it doesn't necessarily help them at all.
I happen to be quite fond of ramen noodles (throw out the little pseudo-flavor packet, makes a gret side dish with any meal!)
Whaddaya mean throw out the flavor packet?! How else do you get that great sodium buzz?:-)
Personally I'd rather give my money to the EFF than the FSF. They're working now to counter the DMCA and other such claptrap. I think the FSF carries too much baggage and fewer people would be willing to contribute due to some of Mr. Stallman's positions and rhetoric. It's a broader platform than just the GPL.
Just hope they actually realize the extent of it. We didn't join the World Court because congress-critters were afraid our soldiers (or Henry Kissinger?) might be declared a war criminal.
You can replace "libertarian" with any other group and say the same useless thing. No wonder you post as an Anonymous Coward. It's so typical... attack the person or generalize about a group and not address the issue at all. This is what they call "intellectually bankrupt".
.. how DARE they not open their source to you! They're plotting even now to take over the universe! They even ADMIT it! No, world domination is NOT enuf!
Here's a clue as to what it does: it crunches data. Gotta degree in astrophyics? I'm sure you could figure it out.
Not selling microsoftsucks.com, yes, that would be standing on principle. Not selling "xthingie.com", that would be what we in the business call "stupid", especially since it's a fairly generic name that has no public recognition value for their company anyway.
Taking their money would be the best revenge. You can always give it to charity or use it to support your favorite open-source project.
I'm thinking of starting work later just so I can see the 8am Dr. Who episode everyday... not that I don't have a bunch of them on tape (like 120?) but it's still cool to catch the broadcast.
> scantily clad women
I think Leela had to take the prize for scantily-clad, but I can't remember name of the very statuesque girl that played (with Tom Baker?) Pippin or something?
I don't quite understand, how much money could it cost? What do they have, like one artist and two writers? It's not like these guys have to setup offices around the world to do their thing.
Packaged into your choice of mahogany, oak or tye-dyed Grateful Dead t-shirt...
Maybe we could get some insurance company to write a policy to go along with it, like the UPS manfacturers do? Think they'll insure that you'll always be able to play the CD's and DVD's you bought?
The only response to all of the systems that will restrict your fair use (and I don't know if this scheme does) is to keep yer old stuff in working order! For once obsolescence(sp?) may be a GOOD thing, because they can't add copy-protect nonsense to the stuff you already own. For new releases you'll be stuck though, so buy everything you want now! Hmm, maybe there's a business idea in there somewhere... sit on a bunch of current non-protected media so old folk can update their collections without buying the whole thing today... sort of media escrow..
When I bought my house 2 years ago Verizon (then Bell Atlantic) was promising DSL availability in the area, but not for me. Their website indicated people a half mile away were eligible, but I wasn't. I mentioned to a Verizon tech that I already had ISDN, and he said he does the same process to qualify a DSL line as they do for ISDN, so I should be OK.
A few months ago I finally got ahold of a real person there, who gave me the top 5 reasons it may not be available to me, to which I said "Fine, let's find out what it really is. "
1) If it's distance then I know this isn't an option, I'll do something else.
2) If it's the build-out in your CO, I know it may be coming.
3) But if it's just an arbitrary # entered into your database then maybe I can get it!
She said ok, we'll have to do a manual loopback test, it may take 6 weeks, etc. I said fine, I've been waiting 2 years, what's another 6 weeks?
Guess what? It was #3. Two weeks later I had a DSL modem and was good to go. My neighbors (both programmers) are now trying to get it and keep getting the same run-around. The line GOES PAST THEIR HOUSES to mine.
Moral of the story is, DON'T BELIEVE THEM. KEEP PRESSING and force them to do the manual test. They have got to be one of the worst companies I've ever done business with. They just dropped a number range into their website, and if your # isn't in it the operator will tell you it's not available. I realized what it was when I found that if I plugged in other phone #'s the "not available" message came up on a 100 boundary, i.e. xxx-1199 was OK, but xxx-1200 wasn't. The fools just don't update the #*$*# database!
Ok, let's see, there are HOW MANY Chinese restaurants in Manhattan? And if it knows I like pork fried rice, I'm going to get like 2000 emails on my web-phone?
fans of the Bazaar may see only waste in Fountains assertion that "Millions of lines of Motif get written and not one word about it leaves the company doors."
Oh yeah, we're all going to need a million lines of code specific to some pharmaceutical app. Get a life, Timothy. Most of the code ever written is useful only to people in their industry, and more often only useful for a particular company.
From the article:
As commercial engineers, we don't plug our own names or reputations with the software that we sell.
No wonder he's getting trashed here - some people actually just do their jobs, instead of engaging in endless self-promotion. What a concept.
Because cheap scanners don't do the same kind of optical mark reading. The OMR scanners key off of marks on the page margins to provide information about the dark spots in a row as well as simply scan the document. Then they go through several levels of quality control - there are a lot of people who work on those things.
And this is a service that handles millions of tests per year, which is why it's centralized and industrialized. You know, like people pay to outsource things so they don't have to do it themselves?
My point is this is exactly the kind of situation which open source is NOT good at, simply because of the expensive specialized hardware involved.
I think what some folks might be forgetting here is this software doesn't work with a $129 Canon scanner. They use $100K high-speed machines, and much of the translation is done during the scanning process by customer software intefacing with the scanner company toolkit. You don't do this stuff for fun - trust me on this.
After all, if the scanning software returns the wrong code the question will come up wrong even with the RIGHT answer key.
But there's plenty of space in here for error: The operators are working 2nd and 3rd shifts stuffing piles of nasty test papers into a scanner (up to 6000/hr. for an NCS 5000i) taking pieces of paper and other garbage out, etc. etc.
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I don't LIKE pickups. I like to be able to get to the back without going outside and opening the cap. And what's the big diff. between a full-size pickup and an SUV?
What about my '68 Caddy, do I have to get rid of that too because some ****ing eco-terrorist has decided it's evil? What if I don't even drive it, just sit in it drinking beer while listening to the 8-track in the garage? Will they take that into account before torching it?
Is a Porsche OK because it gets good mileage, or evil because you want to take it out on long drives to nowhere? Where does it stop?
Here's the deal: you don't get to destroy other peoples property. Period.
IMHO there's absolutely no reason to buy one.
Well, I have an old one to drive when it's really stormy, there's torrential rain, wind is knocking down tree parts and I don't want to risk my expensive toys - good enough for you? And it's just the thing to tow a boat, if I can ever afford one.
Unquestionably most of the people driving them should be in station-wagons instead, but to say there's no reason at all is sort of silly.
Actually I've read accounts that indicated a large population of the country was working for the Stasi secret police by the time they went down. They just intimidated everyone into reporting on their neighbors, friends and families, so you couldn't trust anyone. The "burden" of that didn't bring them down; it was the fall of the Soviet economy and a crazy situation at the Berlin Wall that brought it to a close.
And there are still people there that miss the old days.
Paranoia is a healthy thing. In small doses.
Yes, but also (as Woody Allen said):
"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean somebody's not after you."
I think it was around the same time the GOP and Moral (Moron) Majority made "liberal" a cuss-word. I think that as our population increases and the media pounces on every single lurid crime average people tend to think things are much worse than they really are, and so are willing to accept these things. And of course you always have these fools that say "if you haven't done anything there'll be no problem" as if we haven't had numerous death row inmates freed after DNA proved they weren't guilty.
Yes, I can explain. I have several look-alikes and a common name. It's quite possible I'd end up underneath a well-meaning cop trying to explain I'm not THAT "xxxx". What if you look like a local notorious figure? Are you going to be stopped and "explained about the situation" each and every time you walk through there? The software's going to get a match each time. Can you imagine being harrassed (and potentially shot) every time you went to work, or to the market? I find your comment seriously naive.
If he keeps pushing Ralf off the course on the first term family dinners at Chez Schumacher are going to be a little tense!
I have to wonder about the officiating at that race - Ralf was punished harshly for something Michael also did to an extent. I wonder if they'd didn't want to make sure it would be a nice clear victory for Michael? Wouldn't look nice if the two brothers knocked each other off in their home GP!
Professional programmers are by definition being paid by their day job which leaves them able to give away their off-hours open source work. Full-time free-lance writers aren't in the same position. The writing IS their only job. They don't have a corporate sugar-daddy paying the bills while they write for enjoyment.
:-)
Web exposure == free advertising == increased name recognition == increased print sales.
I'm also not sure your formula is applicable here; people buy the NY Times no matter who's in there. Since there are so many articles by different people you're probably not buying it for one particular author, and those authors are probably not paid more if sales go up, so it doesn't necessarily help them at all.
I happen to be quite fond of ramen noodles (throw out the little pseudo-flavor packet, makes a gret side dish with any meal!)
Whaddaya mean throw out the flavor packet?! How else do you get that great sodium buzz?
Personally I'd rather give my money to the EFF than the FSF. They're working now to counter the DMCA and other such claptrap. I think the FSF carries too much baggage and fewer people would be willing to contribute due to some of Mr. Stallman's positions and rhetoric. It's a broader platform than just the GPL.
Just hope they actually realize the extent of it. We didn't join the World Court because congress-critters were afraid our soldiers (or Henry Kissinger?) might be declared a war criminal.
You can replace "libertarian" with any other group and say the same useless thing. No wonder you post as an Anonymous Coward. It's so typical... attack the person or generalize about a group and not address the issue at all. This is what they call "intellectually bankrupt".
And I get modded as flamebait. Sheesh.
.. how DARE they not open their source to you! They're plotting even now to take over the universe! They even ADMIT it! No, world domination is NOT enuf!
Here's a clue as to what it does: it crunches data. Gotta degree in astrophyics? I'm sure you could figure it out.
Geez, give it a break man.
Not selling microsoftsucks.com, yes, that would be standing on principle. Not selling "xthingie.com", that would be what we in the business call "stupid", especially since it's a fairly generic name that has no public recognition value for their company anyway.
Taking their money would be the best revenge. You can always give it to charity or use it to support your favorite open-source project.
Yeah, it's like Godzilla. I don't want Sony CGI, I want a guy in a rubber suit jumping up and down!
I'm thinking of starting work later just so I can see the 8am Dr. Who episode everyday... not that I don't have a bunch of them on tape (like 120?) but it's still cool to catch the broadcast.
> scantily clad women
I think Leela had to take the prize for scantily-clad, but I can't remember name of the very statuesque girl that played (with Tom Baker?) Pippin or something?
This is obviously the definition of someone with too much timeon his hands.
I don't quite understand, how much money could it cost? What do they have, like one artist and two writers? It's not like these guys have to setup offices around the world to do their thing.
Packaged into your choice of mahogany, oak or tye-dyed Grateful Dead t-shirt...
Maybe we could get some insurance company to write a policy to go along with it, like the UPS manfacturers do? Think they'll insure that you'll always be able to play the CD's and DVD's you bought?
Sheesh, what a thought.
The only response to all of the systems that will restrict your fair use (and I don't know if this scheme does) is to keep yer old stuff in working order! For once obsolescence(sp?) may be a GOOD thing, because they can't add copy-protect nonsense to the stuff you already own. For new releases you'll be stuck though, so buy everything you want now! Hmm, maybe there's a business idea in there somewhere... sit on a bunch of current non-protected media so old folk can update their collections without buying the whole thing today... sort of media escrow..
Nah, I'll just have a beer.
When I bought my house 2 years ago Verizon (then Bell Atlantic) was promising DSL availability in the area, but not for me. Their website indicated people a half mile away were eligible, but I wasn't. I mentioned to a Verizon tech that I already had ISDN, and he said he does the same process to qualify a DSL line as they do for ISDN, so I should be OK.
A few months ago I finally got ahold of a real person there, who gave me the top 5 reasons it may not be available to me, to which I said "Fine, let's find out what it really is. "
1) If it's distance then I know this isn't an option, I'll do something else.
2) If it's the build-out in your CO, I know it may be coming.
3) But if it's just an arbitrary # entered into your database then maybe I can get it!
She said ok, we'll have to do a manual loopback test, it may take 6 weeks, etc. I said fine, I've been waiting 2 years, what's another 6 weeks?
Guess what? It was #3. Two weeks later I had a DSL modem and was good to go. My neighbors (both programmers) are now trying to get it and keep getting the same run-around. The line GOES PAST THEIR HOUSES to mine.
Moral of the story is, DON'T BELIEVE THEM. KEEP PRESSING and force them to do the manual test. They have got to be one of the worst companies I've ever done business with. They just dropped a number range into their website, and if your # isn't in it the operator will tell you it's not available. I realized what it was when I found that if I plugged in other phone #'s the "not available" message came up on a 100 boundary, i.e. xxx-1199 was OK, but xxx-1200 wasn't. The fools just don't update the #*$*# database!
And Yes, this book denies the existence of neither *NIX nor Windows systems.
Man, now THAT is useful commentary. Although what the old progressive rock band Yes have to do with it is another question altogether.
"Denies the existence.. of neither... nor... "
Are you trying to say it covers both Unix and Windows?
Try this: It covers both Unix and Windows.
Go ahead kids, mod me down... English wants to be free! (Of useless editors, that is.)
Just a thought... he may become a poster boy for the revived emphasis on nuclear power.
Ok, let's see, there are HOW MANY Chinese restaurants in Manhattan? And if it knows I like pork fried rice, I'm going to get like 2000 emails on my web-phone?
No thanks, Scott.
fans of the Bazaar may see only waste in Fountains assertion that "Millions of lines of Motif get written and not one word about it leaves the company doors."
Oh yeah, we're all going to need a million lines of code specific to some pharmaceutical app. Get a life, Timothy. Most of the code ever written is useful only to people in their industry, and more often only useful for a particular company.
From the article:
As commercial engineers, we don't plug our own names or reputations with the software that we sell.
No wonder he's getting trashed here - some people actually just do their jobs, instead of engaging in endless self-promotion. What a concept.
Because cheap scanners don't do the same kind of optical mark reading. The OMR scanners key off of marks on the page margins to provide information about the dark spots in a row as well as simply scan the document. Then they go through several levels of quality control - there are a lot of people who work on those things.
And this is a service that handles millions of tests per year, which is why it's centralized and industrialized. You know, like people pay to outsource things so they don't have to do it themselves?
My point is this is exactly the kind of situation which open source is NOT good at, simply because of the expensive specialized hardware involved.
Sorry, you can't win 'em all!
I think what some folks might be forgetting here is this software doesn't work with a $129 Canon scanner. They use $100K high-speed machines, and much of the translation is done during the scanning process by customer software intefacing with the scanner company toolkit. You don't do this stuff for fun - trust me on this.
After all, if the scanning software returns the wrong code the question will come up wrong even with the RIGHT answer key.
But there's plenty of space in here for error: The operators are working 2nd and 3rd shifts stuffing piles of nasty test papers into a scanner (up to 6000/hr. for an NCS 5000i) taking pieces of paper and other garbage out, etc. etc.
How do I know? Don't ask.