i think programmers have a problem with egos.
it may be insane to try and get a fix out as soon as possible. but if its physically possible, you can guarantee a novice programmer out to prove his worth is going to do it to "show up the rest of the team". and because managers love it, this gets rewarded. and because managers tend to be technically inept, they don't understand why the rest of the team demand a properly logged bug when "young x here just jumped straight in last time and fixed it".
I've been that person before. it works well if your playing the political game. its not really very helpful if your trying to produce a good product though.
oh cry more. oh no, security was compromised and i have to do more work!
but if your happy politicizing yourself out of a job. be my guest. i will continue to demand root access to my damn machine because i don't want to wait the 3 days it takes you whiny security guys to install a simple app.
our security guys are demanding that we only use internet explorer 7, because apparently Firefox is insecure. that's all well and good, but I'm a web developer and i need Firefox (as well as ie & chrome) to do my job properly.
no, for you're analogy anon would be the person who called in the bomb threat or activated the sprinklers, or printed and posted the answers to the end of year exam questions. the difference is in the title of the group.
I equate the anon movement to spur of the moment protests.
Wow, just... wow. Elitist much? who are you to say that just because someone doesn't excel in education or business that they are without value? and calling kids worthless. the same people you have decided are worthless have the full human range of emotions that you do, they want, crave and desire, they want to be accepted by their peers. the contribute to others lives in entertainment and joy as much as you would contribute to society and business. you aren't all that different regardless of how special you think you are, you just have different focus.
Now suppose you are a teacher and you walk into an auditorium with 2000 black students and only a half dozen white kids. You already know the odds are that you are speaking to quite a few criminals waiting to bloom. Would you be thrilled? Or would you rather be somewhere else for your own safety?
the black people that go to jail aren't the ones filling an auditorium. More murder suicide school shootings (all iirc) were done by white students.
human nature by default is exploitative. if human nature can exploit sociopathic/bullying tactics to get what they want without negative recourse they will. just like they will exploit co-operation to achieve a common goal. Considering bulling is alive and well in all aspects of human life (consider how common the worker who gets yelled at by their boss or customers / clients using aggression to achieve an end). it may be your learned behaviour to always approach the "co-operation" solution to a problem, is this because of society advancing or because of the threat of force if you attempt to utilize your own threat of force to get your own way.
my point. those that have no retaliatory fear of threat of force turn someone like Mubarak & Saddam Husein and things like looting and mob mentality occurs. what makes you think that the people engaging in this activity are any different to your next door neighbor?
he is anti government at best, wiki leaks has released documents on other countries, nothing as big as what got released in America however, but that indicates to me that he isn't just "anti American"
the US validates it more by the way they reacted. wiki leaks is only successful because they verify their information, if they didn't they would be caught out as being conspiracy theorists.
I think he was arguing that the movies success was based on novelty and not quality, which is a fair argument.
I personally disagree, I liked the movie Avatar before I knew you could even see it in 3d. whats not to like about wheelchair bound soldier having weird hair sex with a dragon bird?
this is a better idea then completely delisting them, any Hollywood movie search would have "news" as a first section of work, linked to all the mpaa nastiness.
actually, now that i think of it, this isn't a good idea. that would turn google into foxnews. it would work to "guide" public opinion though and would be much more effective then delisting.
hotfile is selling additional bandwidth & less hassle to access any content on their servers. this includes the plethora of legitimate software on their servers. they aren't selling access to the files (which are freely available on their servers with a small wait) any more than your isp is selling you access to the files by giving you higher broadband speeds.
linux back in the day required a steep learning curve, but Ubuntu has made massive strides with "ease of use", i find it easier to use than windows 7. and i've been using windows 7 for the last year or 2 and i used Ubuntu for about a month. i only went back to windows 7 because they supported the games i wanted to play.
Ubuntu is to linux what macOS was suppose to be with windows.. everything "just works". Ubuntu is brilliant in this regard, (lets not even get started on the repository)
all i got was to turn up late when the women are already drunk.
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utilize your skills to provide assistance throughout the whole business
wankey wank wank. if you want to show off that way you'd be better off smashing a bottle over your head and say something like "i'm the rock that keeps the company together"
don't forget that anonymous also posted all the information they found,
oh wait, HBGary was going to do the same thing on "supposed" AnonOps. i guess the plot thickens.
Did Wikileaks consult with the U.S. military to make sure its many war documents didn't reveal troop placement?
Yes, they did. the U.S. military refused. guess that takes your wind out of your sales then?
Wikileaks is a media outlet just like fox news. you support the actions if its against China's propaganda machine but when it goes against your propaganda machine then you resist it.
Were the embassies given such a chance? Not by a long shot.
I guess Wikileaks got disheartened last time they asked for the US to do this?
the guy was being a vigilanti by "secretly" gaining knowledge of members of Anonymous. who then made a public announcement to the effect of "look at me, look how good i am, i could turn heaps of Senior members of anonymous into the feds if i wanted to". he should feel lucky that he didn't do this to the mafia.
Anonymous responded by destroying that information (protect them selves) and destroying Aarons reputation as a security expert. This isn't an "anonymous protest against free speech", this is someone making public announcements at the expense of some random people. who have the means and the ability to exact revenge.
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i think programmers have a problem with egos. it may be insane to try and get a fix out as soon as possible. but if its physically possible, you can guarantee a novice programmer out to prove his worth is going to do it to "show up the rest of the team". and because managers love it, this gets rewarded. and because managers tend to be technically inept, they don't understand why the rest of the team demand a properly logged bug when "young x here just jumped straight in last time and fixed it". I've been that person before. it works well if your playing the political game. its not really very helpful if your trying to produce a good product though.
being a programmer he works under regular pressure..
the pressure of his fat rolls that is.
oh no he didn't....
oh cry more. oh no, security was compromised and i have to do more work!
but if your happy politicizing yourself out of a job. be my guest. i will continue to demand root access to my damn machine because i don't want to wait the 3 days it takes you whiny security guys to install a simple app.
our security guys are demanding that we only use internet explorer 7, because apparently Firefox is insecure. that's all well and good, but I'm a web developer and i need Firefox (as well as ie & chrome) to do my job properly.
your kidding right? Egypt have overthrown a dictator with only 180 people killed. i wonder how many people died when America overthrew Saddam?
no, for you're analogy anon would be the person who called in the bomb threat or activated the sprinklers, or printed and posted the answers to the end of year exam questions. the difference is in the title of the group. I equate the anon movement to spur of the moment protests.
Now suppose you are a teacher and you walk into an auditorium with 2000 black students and only a half dozen white kids. You already know the odds are that you are speaking to quite a few criminals waiting to bloom. Would you be thrilled? Or would you rather be somewhere else for your own safety?
the black people that go to jail aren't the ones filling an auditorium. More murder suicide school shootings (all iirc) were done by white students.
human nature by default is exploitative. if human nature can exploit sociopathic/bullying tactics to get what they want without negative recourse they will. just like they will exploit co-operation to achieve a common goal. Considering bulling is alive and well in all aspects of human life (consider how common the worker who gets yelled at by their boss or customers / clients using aggression to achieve an end). it may be your learned behaviour to always approach the "co-operation" solution to a problem, is this because of society advancing or because of the threat of force if you attempt to utilize your own threat of force to get your own way. my point. those that have no retaliatory fear of threat of force turn someone like Mubarak & Saddam Husein and things like looting and mob mentality occurs. what makes you think that the people engaging in this activity are any different to your next door neighbor?
he is anti government at best, wiki leaks has released documents on other countries, nothing as big as what got released in America however, but that indicates to me that he isn't just "anti American"
a necessary evil perhaps? much like going to the dentist.
we have PR friendly ways of using force, but it is still the only reason why society works.
the US validates it more by the way they reacted. wiki leaks is only successful because they verify their information, if they didn't they would be caught out as being conspiracy theorists.
I think he was arguing that the movies success was based on novelty and not quality, which is a fair argument. I personally disagree, I liked the movie Avatar before I knew you could even see it in 3d. whats not to like about wheelchair bound soldier having weird hair sex with a dragon bird?
this is a better idea then completely delisting them, any Hollywood movie search would have "news" as a first section of work, linked to all the mpaa nastiness. actually, now that i think of it, this isn't a good idea. that would turn google into foxnews. it would work to "guide" public opinion though and would be much more effective then delisting.
We've matured as a species just a teensy bit since then, don't you think?
no, not even a little bit, threat of force is still the only thing that matters, everything else is governed by it.
hotfile is selling additional bandwidth & less hassle to access any content on their servers. this includes the plethora of legitimate software on their servers. they aren't selling access to the files (which are freely available on their servers with a small wait) any more than your isp is selling you access to the files by giving you higher broadband speeds.
but the whole system was flawed from the beginning.
Care to elaborate?
cue "end drug prohibition".
linux back in the day required a steep learning curve, but Ubuntu has made massive strides with "ease of use", i find it easier to use than windows 7. and i've been using windows 7 for the last year or 2 and i used Ubuntu for about a month. i only went back to windows 7 because they supported the games i wanted to play. Ubuntu is to linux what macOS was suppose to be with windows.. everything "just works". Ubuntu is brilliant in this regard, (lets not even get started on the repository)
utilize your skills to provide assistance throughout the whole business
wankey wank wank. if you want to show off that way you'd be better off smashing a bottle over your head and say something like "i'm the rock that keeps the company together"
You didn't read the article did you? the things you're suggesting is exactly what they are doing.... which makes YOU A TERRORIST!.
don't forget that anonymous also posted all the information they found, oh wait, HBGary was going to do the same thing on "supposed" AnonOps. i guess the plot thickens.
its a protest, not a petition Geez. a 4 year old gets how to protest.
Did Wikileaks consult with the U.S. military to make sure its many war documents didn't reveal troop placement?
Yes, they did. the U.S. military refused. guess that takes your wind out of your sales then?
Wikileaks is a media outlet just like fox news. you support the actions if its against China's propaganda machine but when it goes against your propaganda machine then you resist it.
Were the embassies given such a chance? Not by a long shot.
I guess Wikileaks got disheartened last time they asked for the US to do this? the guy was being a vigilanti by "secretly" gaining knowledge of members of Anonymous. who then made a public announcement to the effect of "look at me, look how good i am, i could turn heaps of Senior members of anonymous into the feds if i wanted to". he should feel lucky that he didn't do this to the mafia. Anonymous responded by destroying that information (protect them selves) and destroying Aarons reputation as a security expert. This isn't an "anonymous protest against free speech", this is someone making public announcements at the expense of some random people. who have the means and the ability to exact revenge.
punishable yes, traceable unlikely. HBGary is a security firm, so I'd say they knew what they were doing.