btb, ironically, I think that we were making the same point. That it was the actions of freed slaves that brought forth emancipation, rather than an act of war.
And here's an excerpt:
Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation on January 1, 1863, declaring that slaves in all states and portions of states still at war with the federal government were free and would remain so. While taking care to exempt border slave states and the three Confederate states that the Union controlled, Lincoln nevertheless endorsed the idea of recruiting freed slaves and free blacks for service in the armed forces. The Emancipation Proclamation technically freed no one, because Lincoln's authority was not recognized in the Confederacy.
...but I have realized one thing... Just don't post anything that anybody might question, because you'll get stomped by the closed mindedness. Oh well.
Excuse me, but poor farmers couldn't afford slaves, rich land owners could.
Also, of note is the fact that I am NOT racist. You took offense to a comment that was NOT meant in that context. It was meant in the context that people should question what they are told, only because they should. Read the follow up to the other post to find out about all of the places that the Emancipation Proclaimation could keep their slaves if you don't believe me.
BTW, again, very American, very Libertarian though, and very honest with myself. No rosey colored glasses here, only the straight poop.
Ahh, it kind of makes a bit more sense now. I just don't think I quite absorbed it the first time. The savings allows them to aquire a machine, which they will have future savings/lower LOE on. Gotcha.
This is the mail server. They still have to support mail CLIENTS at the desk. Just like they would if the mail server was running off a smaller/cheaper workstation. Soo... Either the mainframe does something else (doesn't sound like it) or it's overkill.
Ok, note 1) I'm not a racist, note 2) I am an EXTREMELY loyal American, note 3) I am a bit of a history buff and I LOVE being right. This is a point that I can always be right on where everyone else is wrong.
and Virginia (except the forty-eight counties designated as West Virginia, and also the counties of Berkeley, Accomac, Morthhampton, Elizabeth City, York, Princess Anne, and Norfolk, including the cities of Norfolk and Portsmouth), and which excepted parts are for the present left precisely as if this proclamation were not issued.
Which means that these cities were allowed to keep their slaves. IE, the emancipation proclaimation did NOT free the slaves in the US, it merely moved them into a smaller area.
Tobacco and Marijunna were both payoffs, as was most related legislation. Alcohol was probably about as unenforcible as pot is, and slavery ended because they needed something to motivate northern troops (there were also areas excluded in the emancipation proclaimation).
Civil disobedience doesn't work. Money talks, the rest walks.
3) Everybody thinks that their product is 10 x cooler the second it's on the Internet. They think that they are 1337 h@x0rs or something. They think that sales will go through the roof because they are a.com.
...perhaps they should have learned something from all of the.bombs? Yeah, but with senators in their pocket and the pocketbooks of all of their consumers to spend, they can make a bad business model work if they want to.
Also, I don't think that setting up a network is outside of their reach, I think that most people don't seem to understand that there are networks outside of the internet, or that you could use a web site to control a tv show shown on a diff network. Oh well, so much for infrastructure.
You mean like having file servers that can roll over based on a few config files, profiles that work on multiple desktops, and a consistent interface across multiple machines based on only a few files?
Perhaps the most interesting part of the story (which really is only a small part at the end) is that many couples like to go to the magnetic North Pole to conceive their children.
Well heck yeah it is. Obsolete maps are no-where near as cool as magnetic children!
People have been selling unibody computers for years, it's just that people weren't buying them because you can't upgrade them. If the monitor goes, you have to toss a perfectly good machine.
So, Macintosh makes one (just like the Mac Classic for anybody who's tuned in), and makes it with a flat display, and Gateway makes a flat display unibody, and now it's a knock-off? They might be picking up on a market that Apple openned, but I seem to remember the PC market trying to do this before the iMacs were out with web-pads, funny that nobody else does!
...but I can get a wireless gateway cheaper than a laptop... ...selling access probably violates my contract with my ISP... ...It sounds great for hotels wanting to buy a prepackaged deal, but most go through commercial ISPs...
I'm not really sure what market they're trying to corner here... They're not planning on profitting from this are they?
No offense guys, cool idea and all, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it.
Oh, you're obfuscating existing code...Gotcha(n/t)
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I like the idea of this, it reminds me of BSD Ports, which I think was ported to Linux. Perhaps a Linux distribution based on BSD Ports would be interesting.
I didn't say that either is right. I just said that there is a legal difference, so there might be a case for the FSF in this one. Also of note is that Morpheus only FACILITATES illegal things. It isn't in itself illegal, and it COULD be used for legal ends.
Computers were getting too useful anyway. I think that we all need to slow down, and take time to smell the roses. After all, very few people do anything useful with computers to begin with. Copy protection is just another way of saying, "I like to inconvenience you and make you pay extra for it."
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...have to watch my ass is all.
btb, ironically, I think that we were making the same point. That it was the actions of freed slaves that brought forth emancipation, rather than an act of war.
Please note the following 3 things.
1) I am not racist
2) I do not want to be percieved as such
3) It was not my intention to sound as I probably did.
Here's another! From Africana.com
...but I have realized one thing... Just don't post anything that anybody might question, because you'll get stomped by the closed mindedness. Oh well.
And here's an excerpt:
Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation on January 1, 1863, declaring that slaves in all states and portions of states still at war with the federal government were free and would remain so. While taking care to exempt border slave states and the three Confederate states that the Union controlled, Lincoln nevertheless endorsed the idea of recruiting freed slaves and free blacks for service in the armed forces. The Emancipation Proclamation technically freed no one, because Lincoln's authority was not recognized in the Confederacy.
Excuse me, but poor farmers couldn't afford slaves, rich land owners could.
Also, of note is the fact that I am NOT racist. You took offense to a comment that was NOT meant in that context. It was meant in the context that people should question what they are told, only because they should. Read the follow up to the other post to find out about all of the places that the Emancipation Proclaimation could keep their slaves if you don't believe me.
BTW, again, very American, very Libertarian though, and very honest with myself. No rosey colored glasses here, only the straight poop.
Ahh, it kind of makes a bit more sense now. I just don't think I quite absorbed it the first time. The savings allows them to aquire a machine, which they will have future savings/lower LOE on. Gotcha.
This is the mail server. They still have to support mail CLIENTS at the desk. Just like they would if the mail server was running off a smaller/cheaper workstation. Soo... Either the mainframe does something else (doesn't sound like it) or it's overkill.
Ok, note 1) I'm not a racist, note 2) I am an EXTREMELY loyal American, note 3) I am a bit of a history buff and I LOVE being right. This is a point that I can always be right on where everyone else is wrong.
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and Virginia (except the forty-eight counties designated as West Virginia, and also the counties of Berkeley, Accomac, Morthhampton, Elizabeth City, York, Princess Anne, and Norfolk, including the cities of Norfolk and Portsmouth), and which excepted parts are for the present left precisely as if this proclamation were not issued.
Which means that these cities were allowed to keep their slaves. IE, the emancipation proclaimation did NOT free the slaves in the US, it merely moved them into a smaller area.
Tobacco and Marijunna were both payoffs, as was most related legislation. Alcohol was probably about as unenforcible as pot is, and slavery ended because they needed something to motivate northern troops (there were also areas excluded in the emancipation proclaimation).
Civil disobedience doesn't work. Money talks, the rest walks.
3) Everybody thinks that their product is 10 x cooler the second it's on the Internet. They think that they are 1337 h@x0rs or something. They think that sales will go through the roof because they are a .com.
.bombs? Yeah, but with senators in their pocket and the pocketbooks of all of their consumers to spend, they can make a bad business model work if they want to.
...perhaps they should have learned something from all of the
Also, I don't think that setting up a network is outside of their reach, I think that most people don't seem to understand that there are networks outside of the internet, or that you could use a web site to control a tv show shown on a diff network. Oh well, so much for infrastructure.
You mean like having file servers that can roll over based on a few config files, profiles that work on multiple desktops, and a consistent interface across multiple machines based on only a few files?
Yup, did that today with a handful of unix boxen.
Perhaps the most interesting part of the story (which really is only a small part at the end) is that many couples like to go to the magnetic North Pole to conceive their children.
Well heck yeah it is. Obsolete maps are no-where near as cool as magnetic children!
People have been selling unibody computers for years, it's just that people weren't buying them because you can't upgrade them. If the monitor goes, you have to toss a perfectly good machine.
So, Macintosh makes one (just like the Mac Classic for anybody who's tuned in), and makes it with a flat display, and Gateway makes a flat display unibody, and now it's a knock-off? They might be picking up on a market that Apple openned, but I seem to remember the PC market trying to do this before the iMacs were out with web-pads, funny that nobody else does!
I hear Kyle's comment on German people from South Park ringing in my head.
But hey, do you feel safer around a sober S&M person playing pong, or someone in traditional dress drinking beer by the pint?
Either way, it's just a silly stereotype, I'm part german, and I never have my sex slaves bless me with delicious pain after I flog them.
...but I can get a wireless gateway cheaper than a laptop...
...selling access probably violates my contract with my ISP...
...It sounds great for hotels wanting to buy a prepackaged deal, but most go through commercial ISPs...
I'm not really sure what market they're trying to corner here... They're not planning on profitting from this are they?
No offense guys, cool idea and all, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it.
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Are we talking about just compilation and use of an IDE? I we talking about compiling against libraries?
We're not talking about including source files.
It all sounds fine to me. I don't pay a royalty to Sun Microsystems just because I compiled under Forte. What am I missing here that you're doing?
I've heard of these guys somewhere... Haven't I?
In all seriousness though, I have no problem with this, you have to get paid somehow, right?
I like the idea of this, it reminds me of BSD Ports, which I think was ported to Linux. Perhaps a Linux distribution based on BSD Ports would be interesting.
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I didn't say that either is right. I just said that there is a legal difference, so there might be a case for the FSF in this one. Also of note is that Morpheus only FACILITATES illegal things. It isn't in itself illegal, and it COULD be used for legal ends.
Besides, I was making a joke.
There is a difference between pirating music, and repackaging software and passing it off as your own.
It's one thing to download windows, it's another entirely to change all of the BMPs and icon files to some theme and then redistribute it as your own.
It's called X-11, and there are also X servers and WMs for windows (at least I have documentation that says there are WMs for Windows).
Computers were getting too useful anyway. I think that we all need to slow down, and take time to smell the roses. After all, very few people do anything useful with computers to begin with. Copy protection is just another way of saying, "I like to inconvenience you and make you pay extra for it."
What does this mean to open source software, which is being used to a greater extent in corporate environments?
Pretty simple, nobody would heave that kind of cash to defend an open source suit and the body that produced the software would fold.
My computer was working too well anyway. I was really hoping that somebody would come by and make it stop working. If it's Hollywood, so be it.
/sarchasm