The automobile industry here is pretty well regulated. There are also plenty of foriegn cars here. I suppose that Germans are all just car nuts because VW and BMW are both there eh?
Wherever possible, ULTra will run along the ground, but some routes might require tracks to be raised on pillars above roads, creating a truly futuristic look.
The same futuristic look that we try to reduce in modern highways after negative reactions to the "futuristic" highways built in the 60's.
Not that I don't think that it's a cool idea, but I think that underground is better than above ground, it helps the viewshed.
There are still many other languages in use. People will not abandon all others for these. Platform independance is nice, but somebody has to write the J2EE and.NET environments. Not only that, but somebody has to be able to write device drivers, operating systems, and other programs that would be difficult to write in such a framework. This all seems to assume that anything but web programming is dead.
Ahh, that makes sense. Sorry, I am now familiar with what is going on. The Z800 is being multiplexed in the VM. DUH! Yeah, that does actually make some sense! Now I am feeling quite foolish. I remember reading of this system before. My apologies. Please mod the above comment down. This technology DOES make sense, because it would scale better than merely purchasing multiple rack units.
People these days seem to forget about the overhead of interpretters and virtual machines. If the article is correct, then the z800's running zVM emulate Intel x86 architecture in order to run Linux. Heck, even poorly written native compiled code generally has advantages over such a set up.
There are however, notable exceptions, given the nature of mainframe processors, if all of your apps are written unoptimized for such a system, then you would want to unify them in a familiar abstraction, given a close enough match, this makes Linux a natural choice. Of course, why would you buy an expensive mainframe and not optimize for it?
To the naysayers slamming Sun as merely trying to boost SunOS, well, yeah, they are, but lets look at the situation.
1) Sun still has SunFire servers, which are QUITE powerful. 2) Solaris is no longer competing with HP-UX, since HP-UX is no more. Sun sells windows and linux based solutions. In other words, Sun has no reason to just blindly nay-say against Linux. As far as exploiting Linux for being a hot technology, well, they're doing that too. That's business for you, you gotta do what you gotta do.
In otherwords, the z800 isn't exactly slaughtering Sun's business, but you gotta have whitepapers to back up your statements when you're bidding to large customers. Saying "just cuz" isn't good enough. Sun's scoring one for the people who want to buy their products. It's not "slamming linux."
Cluster CoNTroller 1.0.1 from MPI Software Technology, Inc
These found on the MS website. It sounds like it's more than load balancing if you ask me... (mpi pro, that would be a commercial version of MPI? I've never used that particular implementation before, only mpich)
I don't really see how this is TOTALLY possible... I see how you can abstract it until it feels like it's working however...
IE... Ok, you don't want to install the program, since that would be changing the client, so all computers voluntarily run a sandbox... That sandbox runs in System Idle Process, or niced down a ways... Even given THOSE conditions, a would be interrupt would have to change context from that program into its own code (incidentally, it would have to without it, but for the sake of argument), and the processor will be giving off heat when if could be sitting idle...
You CAN however code aggressive garbage collection for C++. A quick search over the net should yeild a HEARTY list of garbage collection routines. It just doesn't come built in...
1) Irix is not a microsoft product. Score 1 for SGI.
2) The truely high-end stuff tends to be done on unix type workstations. Perhaps this graphics card garbage is true in the home market, but not on the professional one.
3) If you're willing to pay for X (you're willing to pay for windows aren't you?) You can always buy implementations that support the latest hardware.
4) There are X-Servers/Clients with extremely advanced graphics features. Again, you generally have to fork up some cash, but you're willing to pay for windows, aren't you?
I'd like to point out is that the government managers would rather hire an underqualified person with a security clearance and later train them in their tradecraft
Do you have some experience to back this up? I work for a government contractor and would have to say that a good amount of the work we do is certainly harder that hashing out php scripts for some dot-com?
Where do you get off saying that designing our own protocols and writing embedded systems is somehow easier than writing websites?
What planet are you from?
The last time I checked, there weren't a lot of PhD's going into internet muffin delivery, but perhaps that's just because they realize that nobody would ever order muffins over the internet when they can go to the snack machine down the hall!
BTW, they wouldn't hire an unqualified person WITH a clearance over an overqualified person without. Do you think that the major difference in who gets hired in a market flooded with perl programmers is the clearance? Especially when you're talking about the types of programming the military does?
I'm not trying to crack on the benchmark, they made some very valid conclusions and of course very practical ones, but it's a mark of the chips, not the graphics architectures.
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The automobile industry here is pretty well regulated. There are also plenty of foriegn cars here. I suppose that Germans are all just car nuts because VW and BMW are both there eh?
Wherever possible, ULTra will run along the ground, but some routes might require tracks to be raised on pillars above roads, creating a truly futuristic look.
The same futuristic look that we try to reduce in modern highways after negative reactions to the "futuristic" highways built in the 60's.
Not that I don't think that it's a cool idea, but I think that underground is better than above ground, it helps the viewshed.
There are still many other languages in use. People will not abandon all others for these. Platform independance is nice, but somebody has to write the J2EE and .NET environments. Not only that, but somebody has to be able to write device drivers, operating systems, and other programs that would be difficult to write in such a framework. This all seems to assume that anything but web programming is dead.
Right, I commented on this earlier. I thought that they meant VM in the JVM sense, not as in multiplexing hardware.
I didn't really spend that much time on the NT demo. It could be.
I saw some Sun boxen being demoed running NT. I was fairly sure that this was an effort on the part of Sun Microsystems.
Ahh, that makes sense. Sorry, I am now familiar with what is going on. The Z800 is being multiplexed in the VM. DUH! Yeah, that does actually make some sense! Now I am feeling quite foolish. I remember reading of this system before. My apologies. Please mod the above comment down. This technology DOES make sense, because it would scale better than merely purchasing multiple rack units.
Really? Cool. I heard that HP cut their entire staff for development. Cool...
People these days seem to forget about the overhead of interpretters and virtual machines. If the article is correct, then the z800's running zVM emulate Intel x86 architecture in order to run Linux. Heck, even poorly written native compiled code generally has advantages over such a set up.
There are however, notable exceptions, given the nature of mainframe processors, if all of your apps are written unoptimized for such a system, then you would want to unify them in a familiar abstraction, given a close enough match, this makes Linux a natural choice. Of course, why would you buy an expensive mainframe and not optimize for it?
To the naysayers slamming Sun as merely trying to boost SunOS, well, yeah, they are, but lets look at the situation.
1) Sun still has SunFire servers, which are QUITE powerful.
2) Solaris is no longer competing with HP-UX, since HP-UX is no more. Sun sells windows and linux based solutions. In other words, Sun has no reason to just blindly nay-say against Linux. As far as exploiting Linux for being a hot technology, well, they're doing that too. That's business for you, you gotta do what you gotta do.
In otherwords, the z800 isn't exactly slaughtering Sun's business, but you gotta have whitepapers to back up your statements when you're bidding to large customers. Saying "just cuz" isn't good enough. Sun's scoring one for the people who want to buy their products. It's not "slamming linux."
*Cough* That was sort of what I was saying...
Yeah yeah, but we won't go anywhere if we can't get some dilithium crystals captain!
MPI Pro 1.6 from MPI Software Technology, Inc.
Cluster CoNTroller 1.0.1 from MPI Software Technology, Inc
These found on the MS website. It sounds like it's more than load balancing if you ask me... (mpi pro, that would be a commercial version of MPI? I've never used that particular implementation before, only mpich)
Are we anticipating something here? I mean, my car engine will run in products similar to a car, such as a truck :-P
Maybe we'll see this stuck in a homework & boredom console sometime soon.
Was the slashdot writeup longer than that press release was? *VBG*
They just ran apt-get to get it! Didn't they?
I don't really see how this is TOTALLY possible... I see how you can abstract it until it feels like it's working however...
IE... Ok, you don't want to install the program, since that would be changing the client, so all computers voluntarily run a sandbox... That sandbox runs in System Idle Process, or niced down a ways... Even given THOSE conditions, a would be interrupt would have to change context from that program into its own code (incidentally, it would have to without it, but for the sake of argument), and the processor will be giving off heat when if could be sitting idle...
Bluray? Darnit! I got a DVD player because I wanted more clarity!
/pun
Yup, but I'm not sure that it's such a great deal since the reason for this is them dropping HP-UX.
Everybody repeat with me, there's 1 less version of Unix out there...
Well, we advertise it as a nudist colony space orgy...
Operator Overloading
Multiple Inheritance
You CAN however code aggressive garbage collection for C++. A quick search over the net should yeild a HEARTY list of garbage collection routines. It just doesn't come built in...
I can't seem to get the slashdot pages archived to load.
1) Irix is not a microsoft product. Score 1 for SGI.
2) The truely high-end stuff tends to be done on unix type workstations. Perhaps this graphics card garbage is true in the home market, but not on the professional one.
3) If you're willing to pay for X (you're willing to pay for windows aren't you?) You can always buy implementations that support the latest hardware.
4) There are X-Servers/Clients with extremely advanced graphics features. Again, you generally have to fork up some cash, but you're willing to pay for windows, aren't you?
I'd like to point out is that the government managers would rather hire an underqualified person with a security clearance and later train them in their tradecraft
Do you have some experience to back this up? I work for a government contractor and would have to say that a good amount of the work we do is certainly harder that hashing out php scripts for some dot-com?
Where do you get off saying that designing our own protocols and writing embedded systems is somehow easier than writing websites?
What planet are you from?
The last time I checked, there weren't a lot of PhD's going into internet muffin delivery, but perhaps that's just because they realize that nobody would ever order muffins over the internet when they can go to the snack machine down the hall!
BTW, they wouldn't hire an unqualified person WITH a clearance over an overqualified person without. Do you think that the major difference in who gets hired in a market flooded with perl programmers is the clearance? Especially when you're talking about the types of programming the military does?
Right. I KNOW. Darnit. That's not the damn point... Forget it.
I'm not trying to crack on the benchmark, they made some very valid conclusions and of course very practical ones, but it's a mark of the chips, not the graphics architectures.