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To The Pain
Reedo writes: "If you enjoy gaming and pain, this is for you. Two German designers have developed the Painstation, which is basically a revamped Pong. Except for one major difference - The PEU(Pain Execution Unit), which delivers a dose of pain to your left hand in the form of heat, punches or electroshock, when you mess up."
In Never Say Never again, like the world domination game. Wasn't that guy a German too.
Imagine a version of this for the old NES boxing game. I don't remember what it was called though, sigh. Hmm, maybe I'm a little punch drunk?
har har
"It's comin' back around again..." -RATM
Ridiculous! If you're a masochism, at least do it with style, man.
It's German, eh?
Now is the time on Sprockets when we dance! Touch my Monkey! Play with my Painstation!
If only we could wire this up to remotely do the same to Bill gates every time Windows crashes...
PoIP (Pain over IP) protocol. Coming to an RFC near you.
Why on earth would anyone want to play this? I was under the impression that the playing of games was to make people feel better, not worse.
Still, another case of reality mirroring James Bond... or maybe it's the only case. Hm.
Download MAME
Download Pong ROM
Buy Hammer
Thwack self on hand with hammer on death.
Rinse, lather, repeat until hand becomes bloody stump.
TODO: Something witty here...
... but it only plays R&B albums and Burt Reynolds movies. Use of the pain sender is optional during DVD or CD playback.
I know I saw this in a James Bond movie. . .
You can rent me, and ill kick ya in the nuts for free when you screw up ;)
This is clearly Germany's attempt to ensure that they will be bathing in Gold Medals when Pong is made an olympic sport. Or maybe they're just going to do more S&M with it; I hear a LOT of Germans are into that.
visit the hwky website for a lyrical genius infusion.
Next, will be peripherals to different parts of the body that can deliver all kinds of sensations - warm, cool, wet, dry, all manner of touch... :)
The porn sites will make a killing.
Welcome to the era of cyber-hookers!
At least it's safe sex
-- In the beginning was the WORD, and the WORD was UNSIGNED, and the main(){} was without form and void...
my friends do this to me all the time, especially when playing videogames.
four-oh-four
You should listen to the fourtune I got at the bottom of the page:
Half of being smart is knowing what you're dumb at.
Am I the only one who considered for a moment which of my friends would, and which would not, play this with me?
can't be said to cause violence . .. it clearly shows you that pain hurts and that it's bad!
now, if you'll excuse me, I've got next . . .
Damn, way too slow. Time to waste some tremendous mounds of karma now. Oh, it's been 15 seconds since I last hit reply. Oh, it's been 1 minute since I last posted.
Restating the obvious since nineteen aught five.
Man, this is sweet. Next I want some of those theaters that are equipped with smell, shockers, and all that good stuff. This is what we need, throw away the virtual and bring on the reality!
Why would anyone play this?
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The funniest part was about the idiots who stuck to it because they didn't want to back down in front of an audience. This game will be great at separating showy meatheads from people who listen to their inner Pavlov despite their vanity.
"Yeah, but I didn't know you were going to be giving me electric shocks... just what are you trying to prove here, anyway?"
Indeed.
Wake me up when they come up with a CounterStrike simulator that murders you when you die in the game. I think we'd see a lot more campers.
only ze germans could come up with something so ridiculous. it'll make a great junior high school party game over there, i'm sure. sure beats playing "deep-throat the kielbasa" and wishing their parents saved some beer for them...
i'm not a racist, i swear...all in good fun, i hope
I don't. I expect you to die!
This might be a problem for some of the more conservative British MPs when their favourite web sites become interactive with the Painstation, specially those with weak hearts.
Mistress Thatcher is very upset at you...
From The Princess Bride
Maybe if you mounted the pain-application-device to the wristwrest of a keyboard and designed the whole thing as a "head-to-head" two-player game-station, complete with high quality flat-panels, you could make this work commercially. As it stands now, I don't think many people will pay to get hurt everytime they lose a ball in a game that's been outdated since hard-drives were too expensive for the desktop, and desktop computers used TVs as monitors. Maybe if people got hurt with every Quake/Half-Life death (or maybe a sting for the first bullet hit in the last 10 seconds?), you could market it. But PONG?!
This
Erm... Maybe I'm mistaken, but isn't Pong already painful enough?
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Damn the Emperor!
As long as it leaves my opponents ears intact.
They went to all this trouble to invent the "Painstation" and the best they could do was PONG? Talk about rubbing salt in your game-inflicted wounds.
visit the hwky website for a lyrical genius infusion.
Or perhaps does pain engender some other sort of emotion for other people?
And the current game platforms are fighting people for being too violent?
I fear that the pain will be a little too much for too many people and too little for others.
Burns, heart attacks, and other problems will stop this from being a cool platform that it could be.
with this system, a broken controller button might piss you off a bit more.
We're just not ready as a society for this yet, we squabble over incompetance in copyrights and intelectual property rights more than we try to improve the world for the betterment of man.
As soon as there are foundations funding and protecting people for their contributions rather than mega-corperations trying to sue them and get their marketshare, then we will be able to accept the responsibility for a game platform like this.
) Human Kind Vs Human Creation
) It'd be interesting to see how many humans would survive to serve us.
I did this to my air hockey table a few years ago. good incentive to win.
Could be really boring if your playing against a masochist. ("Oh, the pain!" - "dude, quit losing on purpose!")
This is the same principle we see when people eat hot chilly peppers or engage in saddism. Pain release endorphins that cause pleasure and the body learns to want the effect. So do you shock the loser or the winner?
Hey, just because WIRED got taken, doesn't mean it's real.
Boring boring boring.
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What I want to see is a system like this that would let us zap politicians on TV.
Hexayurt - open source refugee shelter,
You can't sue us because you got carpal tunnel syndrome. Thats a FEATURE OF THIS KEYBOARD!!! Marketing information has clearly shown that people who work with computer equipment WANT to be in pain.
-Restil
Play with my webcams and lights here
Research being wasted on silly projects like this should instead be focused on voice recognition, speech synthesis, and other computer interface technologies that will finally allow us to eliminate the torturous tools that are the modern keyboard and mouse. My friend, who once commanded a six-figure salary coding C++ for a large development firm, has been crippled by these implements and now has to struggle with demeaning part-time jobs in order to put food on the table. I would hate to see this happen to somebody again. We must throw off the shackles of the typing paradigm.
Loneliness is a power that we possess to give or take away forever
The original "to the pain" quote derives from the Princess Bride (for more detail see another post) and means long-lasting, really bad pain. This gadget delivers weak to mild momentary pain (hopefully!). It's kind of like The Forced-Feedback Enemy-Denial Smackdown Ergonomic Game Chair, without the Quad Damage Simulator.
By the way, I do believe this is the first story I've seen with a new Big F@(!*@ Ad.
This
A lot of people have been insulting this, and asking why in the world anyone would play it, but it seems pretty obvious to me. Pain makes your body produce adrenalin, which would definitely heighten the gaming experience. It's not like the pain this machine delivers is extremely intense--but it should be enough to get your endorphins pumping and get your cheeks flushed and make you enjoy the game THAT much more when you win. Sure, it's not for you wusses who wouldn't play the pain game back in grade school, but who wants to play with people who can't take the consequences of losing anyway? :)
Personally, I'd like to see a study that pits the enjoyment derived from regular pong vs. pain-pong. I wouldn't be surprised if people reported a much higher level of enjoyment during pain-pong, even if they lost some of the time.
visit the hwky website for a lyrical genius infusion.
It's called carpal tunnel ...
This isn't as much "normalization" as it is "don't take so many drugs when you're designing tables."
At first I thought it was Microsoft changing the name of their X-Box to compete with the Playstation.
Outdoor digital photography, mostly in New Engl
It should come as no surprise that the German's have cooked this up. Is this a terribly biased, slanderous, racist, aryanphobic opinion...yes. But it's my opinion, live with it! :)
GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) - An Israeli incursion early Friday into central Gaza claimed the life of Maj. Gen. Ahmed Mefraj, the highest-ranking Palestinian officer ever killed in a clash with Israeli forces, Palestinian security officials said. Mefraj, 55, a top security commander, died during the sweep into villages east of the city of Khan Younis. Doctors said he was shot with several times. Mefraj, deputy to Palestinian public security commander Maj. Gen. Abdel Razek Majaidie, was also a member of the Fatah Revolutionary Council, an arm of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat's Fatah movement. In a statement, the Palestinian leadership said Mefraj was killed during Israel's ``brutal aggression'' in the villages. Three other people were killed in clashes with the Israelis, witnesses and doctors said. The Israeli military had no immediate comment. SCORE! I need a big foam finger for times like this...
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FIRST PO- AH!!! DAMNIT!!! THAT HURTS!!!
/. Painstation has succesfully been conducted!
Excellent. The first test of the
I couldn't tell if you were experimenting with poor-man's cryogenics or looking for the orange sherbet.
Sony is so going to sue them for that name...
"Back off, man. I'm a scientist."
not only did they design a version of pong that is painfull, but their web site is unbearable. I've got that horrible green background color burned into my eyes.
I hope you're not pretending to be evil while secretly being good. That would be dishonest.
I believe a few people have mentioned James Bond. This was sort of covered in the thunderball movie. though that game seemed to be a sort of a mixture between battleship and risk.
delivers a dose of pain to your left hand in the form of heat, punches or electroshock, when you mess up.
Usually I get punches when I win, but I think I could get used to this.
--Metrollica
It would be interesting to set up a statistical test to compare the performance of two relatively large groups to determine if there is a significant increase in pong (or any game) playing skills when using a stimulant such as pain. Have any studies like this been performed?
Obviously, Pavlov's experiments with dogs come to mind, but the question is whether this recognition would significantly translate to digital skills, or would increase in skill be matched by non-pained individuals? Would degree of pain matter?
It would be interesting to note the threshold at which pain stops benefitting.
You can tell they are into pain before using the Painstation, the green shouts it at you!
Wow, I should not post when knackered.
If they were going to go all retro with this you'd think they'd at least do an electronic clone of Operation...
I'm not sure if this is scary or funny so I'll have to say it's fuary. I mean this has been the idea of gamers who play way too many games over the years and it's finally come true. A whole new way to let everyone know who rocks most at a game in a very obvious manner.
This reminds me of that one time they tried to bring back the Nester cartoon (as drawn by a guest artist) for a Nintendo Power anniversary issue. He and a younger friend were playing Star Fox 64 with the rumble packs and by the time he left he was shaking from all the rumbling of being destroyed over and over.
Next up, Smell-o-vision CRT montiors. Like you don't all see THAT one on the horizon. "Warning, do not use while viewing Geocities sites!"
Starkle, starkle, little twink.
Nothing new... EQ has been a game of pain like that for years...
--- polarbear
Can you imagine this technology adapted for Q3 or UT, lets hope its not lethal :-)
"We deal in lead" - Roland of Gilead
Does this game come with a Jew mode that kills you if you lose?
Game-related pain was perfected almost two years ago without even needing additional hardware installed.
So it burns you and you dare not pull your hand away. Did anyone else think of Dune rather than Never Say Never Again?
I agree that with my risk for repetitive strain injury, my hands are (almost) the last thing I want extra wear and tear on....
This reminds me of when I lived in Germany -- we used to watch religiously a TV program called Bitte Lächeln (roughly translated, Say Cheese!). I don't know if it's still on, but it used to air on RTL2 at 1800 CET, right after Rück Zuck. It's sort of like that "Germany's Most Disturbing Home Videos" sketch they had on Sprockets once. No matter who was in competition for the DM5000, the winner was always the video in which the {subject|victim} endured the most agonizing pain. Animal bites on the genitals were always a mortal lock.
Anyway, I'm glad to hear that the wonderfully German concept of Schadenfreude is being shared with the gaming world. Incidentally, who wants to quote me some odds on how long it'll take for someone to rewire the PEU to attach to more sensitive bits?
They that would sacrifice their
I cannot even imagine what kind of uses some people will find for this...
...to dream up something like this.
~shiny
WILL HACK FOR $$$
So in the future we get to talk 16 hours a day? How convenient.
They that quote Benjamin Franklin on liberty and safety deserve neither.
...I am surfing for the regular, not German-style pr0n, when half a dozen ads for "Ilsa's Dungeon" pop up and.... I don't think I like this new technology.
sic transit gloria mundi
my buddies used to run around the local orange groves with bb guns shooting eachother ... lemme tell ya, you learned to play that game well *really quick*. I think the only difference between this and that is theres a computer dealing out the pain instead of little copper balls :)
Religion is a gateway psychosis. -- Dave Foley
I had an idea for a system like this. Imagine how much faster you could improve your skills at a game with it. If I got shocked every time I took damage in Tekken, or got burned when I lost, I would get real good, real fast. Sometimes when I play video games, I feel like I'm just dinkin' around. I mean, if you spend enough time walking around in CRPG you WILL win. This device (while not really applicable to CRPGs) forces you to push yourself constantly (or develop a higher pain tolerence). So you either become a bad-a$$ at your game of choice (mopping up at the arcade), or you become that guy who can hold his hand over a fire for as long as he wants. I've heard that women go nuts for both (though I haven't been able to verify this hypothesis BECAUSE I AM A FREAK).
What's wrong with just smacking your opponent immediately after the game? It's worked for centuries!
sic transit gloria mundi
All I read here are negative comments! What's so bad about this? In the arcades in the UK, we have a stupid game where you hold a metal bars with your hand, you put the money in, and hold onto them for as long as possible. What they do is vibrate extremely quickly and ends up getting your hands hot, and then it feels like your whole arm has gone numb. Whoever holds longest wins. Same thing.
Now this is one step further, it's not just psychological, it's actually inflicting pain. This is extremely cool! But then again, I always beat everyone at Pong, so I guess I would say that.
I think this would encourage people to play better. Think Quake 3. If you got a kick in the ass everytime you got fragged, I think you'd get better.
mogorific carpentry experiments
I used to have a cheap see-through SNES controller that shocked me when my hands got sweaty.
Me:Ow!...
OW!...
OW!...
Mom(from next room):What's wrong?
Me:My controller is shocking me!
Mom:Well why don't you STOP PLAYING!
Me:That's an interesting thought...
OW!...
OW!...
Yeah. I could have used something like this back then. Oh Yeah...
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
Oh my god. The Big Picture ads have arrived at /.
I may pay for this.
--Blair
"Yeah, right."
so I guess this would be the next step getting closer to that PS-9 system right?
What the hell is wrong with German people?
A true test would be to give the inventor an interactive slashdotting with the thing. One zap per web page hit should be enough. (Huuh! Will you look at that. 3 seconds and the guy wet himself, must have been a helluva slashdotting.)
pain is good for you. this is a blessing. you should not be playing games, so if you are, then it should hurt. ooooo. i like pain, but no breasts. no stripey kitties. no no no.
Has nobody made the required:
"hook this thing up to leisure suit larry" s&m joke...
I expected that to be the first post...
Now let's it put on the mouse/keyboard of the guy next to me at work and see if he improves any.
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Did you hear about the pocket version? It's just as cool, albiet a bit more manual in operation. It requires a 9volt battery and crotch clamps.
The two-player mode is cool too, you just place a certain number of fingers, based on score, in a doorjam and let your friend give it a hearty shove!
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Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these!
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Why would I believe anything said by someone with the name "Slash Veteran", who has such a new-looking uid? Idiot! Hahhahhaa!
Aren't those laws our fault? I thought after they surrendered, General MacArthur pretty much assumed control of their government and wrote the laws he wished the US had (a terribly hipocritical thing to do, for a man sworn to defend democracy).
Maybe you should get your hands checked out, they sound freakishly big if you have problems.
The fact that these guys went through so much trouble to bring the element of physical pain to the typically less than tactile sport of gaming indicates that they are masochists. They were dissatisfied by the lack of pain in their gaming, so they fixed that shortcoming. Besides their basic engineering skills at accomplishing this feat, they also indicate their intelligence and cynical wit with the clever title of Painstation. This photograph provides evidence that they have the ability to perseverse through adversity.
Now if you combine these qualities, you get a formidable force. If Sony threatens them over over the use of the term "Painstation", I say that they shouldn't back down, and I would be puzzled if they did! Not many people would confuse an archiaic self contained bar-sized electronic table-tennis-torture device with the Sony Playstation line of Home gaming consoles, even with the "force-feedback" option. I say that these clever masochists should stand by their production in the face of the belligerent Sony, and who better to do it! If not for the cause of marketing technological advancement despite questionable Intellectual Property practice, then at least for the sake of art! More than just a proof-of-concept of a phyciological Human Computer Interaction theory, this is an artistic statement regarding the current reality of the gaming and home entertainment industries. All great art comes from suffering artists, and this is no exception!
Of course, I do have a few reservations. The word should not be an issue, but if this is going to be produced for mass marketing, then I might take exception to the use of the Playstation font or visual appearance. I think that bringing this into the world of commerce should impose some IP rules. The fact that most of this is preexisting technology should definitely be considerdd to th benefit of the Painstation.
The most important concern is how sanitary this is. I'd hate to pick up Hepatitis at the local video arcade...
-castlan
www.gaysex.com vs. www.Upmybutt.com.
For one-click barf-o-matic.
I don't even want to think about it.
Only the pain part is completed.
Later the execution part will be added.
FINISH HIM!
God spoke to me
Heat, Punches, and Electroshocks to the hand?
I mean, come on, if you want drastically improve pong skills (as it seems everybody does in today's dog-eat-dog world) then you just have to hook this system up to testicles.
Ping - dot dot - ping - dot dot - ZAAAAP!
I guanrantee you'll see marked improvement in a very short time.
Wow! a 4358 hit rally and it's still going! That is just amazing!
:)
You Are violating the DMCA, your use of a hammer circumvents the need to use the painstation.
Thanks for getting hammers outlawed man.
as you know, the bad guy almost always has a fake-german (or russian) accent. it's a shame american actors are so bad at these accents... that's why the hire dutch guys for it (eg rutger hauer, jeroen krabbe).
:-)
score: -1, informative
-F
they do that so you won't see that everyone over here has a dick.
and it is more commontly called "mosaic", although the cheaper studios use the blur.
cheers from japan,
Jak Din
"As I always say, why jack-off when you can jack-in!" - Plughead from "Circuitry Man" (1990)
It's Inigo, not Indigo.
Sorry for being sensible here, but you also could rig that thing so that you can only use it a certain amount of time before it gets really uncomfortable... Keeping you from developing carpal tunnel and other symptoms.
It also could be rigged to a clock, with a parental override, so that the kids have to stop playing, or suffer the consequences.
Nifty.
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... since the bad guy was played by klaus maria brandauer, an austrian.u s+Maria
http://us.imdb.com/Name?Brandauer,+Kla
According to articles on Salon and Yahoo, a new syndrom has developed among Slashdot geeks. It is called the anal tunnel syndrom and is caused by inserting oversized dildos in the geeks' behind..
Self-taught as well (writing basic games on my MSX) - I've been using a keyboard for 16 years. About half my time at work I type and click, and its only my eyes that hurt on Friday afternoon. On the other, Sony should sue: the Playstation is in fact the Painstation (analog controllers biting into thumbs...), especially after 7 hours of GTA3.
One of these on every desk, remotely accessible over the network, and it's every(?) sysadmin's dream come true: a minimum effort LART :)
You can't sue us because you got carpal tunnel syndrome. Thats a FEATURE OF THIS KEYBOARD!!! Marketing information has clearly shown that people who work with computer equipment WANT to be in pain.
I already saw something like this months ago here
I don't know whats more painful, the actual device or the background color of their webpage.
-Vic
... this is really a German sex toy
So, is this why the Xbox have started sharpening the edges of the discs you put in?
(Hate subject clipping):
Is this an Acme Forced-Feedback Enemy-Denial Smackdown Ergonomic Game Chair?
In case you don't know what I am talking about, read these links.
Buttercup: Oh, Westley, will you ever forgive me?
Westley: What hideous sin have you committed lately?
Buttercup: I got married. I didn't want to. It all happened so fast.
Westley: It never happened.
Buttercup: What?
Westley: It never happened.
Buttercup: But it did! I was there...this old man said man and wife.
Westley: Did you say I do?
Buttercup: Uh...no. We sort of skipped that part.
Westley: Then you're not married. You didn't say it. You didn't do it.
Wouldn't you agree, your highness?
Humperdink: A technicality that will shortly be remedied...but first things
first.. [He draws his sword] To the death!
Westley: [slowly sitting up] No! To the pain!
Humperdink: I don't think I'm quite familiar with that phrase?
Westley: I'll explain, and I'll use small words so that you'll be sure to
understand. You wart-hog-faced buffoon!
Humperdink: [insulted] That may be the first time in my life a man has dared
insult me.
Westley: It won't be the last. To the pain means the first thing you lose will
be your your feet below the ankles, then your hands at your wrists.
Next, your nose.
Humperdink: Then my tongue, I suppose? I killed you too quickly the last
time, a mistake I don't mean to duplicate tonight.
Westley: I wasn't finished! The next thing you lose will be your left eye
followed by your right!
Humperdink: And then my ears...I understand! Let's get on with it!
Westley: Wrong! Your ears you keep, and I'll tell you why; so that every
shriek of every child at seeing your hideousness is yours to cherish.
Every babe that weeps at your approach, every woman that cries out,
'dear god what is that thing!' will echo in your perfect ears. That is
what to the pain means. It means I leave you in anguish, wallowing in
freakish misery forever.
[Or in otherwords, you'll be turned into Cowboy Neal.]
Remember "Bring 'em on"? *sigh
I think this is just a subversive tool designed to make John Q. Public even less sensitive to the outrageous abuse being delivered to him by greedy corporations and corrupt government officials...
Of course the S & M folks are gonna just love this... gettin whipped by your Mistress over the net... talk about convenience!!! Hell, this is almost as much fun as using Microsoft Products!!!
Genda Bendte
-- Now, a clever man would put the poison into his own goblet, because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But you must have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me!--
This game could clean up.
Walk into Rufus McHooter's.
Yell "Harleys suck ass and I'm doing your woman!"
Less money, much more realistic effect.
Ad luna, Alicia! Ad luna!
disable holodeck safeties, authorization, Worf, alpha-1-alpha.
Warning. Holodeck safeties have been removed.
-- You can't idiot-proof anything, because they're always coming out with better idiots.
Is this going to be the basis for another game-show on FOX?
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"Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next.
Reminds me of one of Brian's great BBSpottings... http://www.bbspot.com/News/2001/06/xbox.html
There are but weeks to go; time to start reviewing other 04/01 RFCs for further inspiration....
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
-J
I love Pain.
David Cole
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As the coldwar progressed, the villains became commies. As the south american drug trade progressed, se saw more of them. In the near future, we'll see more arabs with bad afghanistan accents--though I expect there will always be a token "good Arab" to show that the producer isn't prejudiced . .
hawk
I commend your eviliness!
Bond: No! Not Super Mario Bros World 8! I'll talk! I'll talk!
-jc
...imagine a Beowulf cluster of Painstations...
Lately democracy seems to be based on the skybox, the Happy Meal box, the X-box, and the idiot box.
This was already sorta done in a James Bond film..."A View To A Kill" I believe (beginning scene)
One of the problems with the FuckU-FuckMe is that it's so straightlaced. It's good to see technology advancing to address the needs of people who are into S&M.
As copyright owner of this comment, I authorize everyone to defeat any technological measure which limits access to it.
at pong, I would be lucky to get to "Game Over" still alive!
Walk into Rufus McHooter's.
Yell "Harleys suck ass and I'm doing your woman!"
no, that's for when you lose on Mortal Kombat
Fatality!
Kilroy was here!
This system seems quite biased against lefties -- not only are they forced to play with their weaker hand, but their dominant hand is taking the punishment.
why not just hire sum bum to smack you wuith a baseball bat every time you die or get hit in Counterstrike or something. Hits to the specific body part could be simulated much easier too.
USA-UK-Israel: The real Axis of Evil
So, does this mean I should wear tight black leather, studded collar, S&M mask, and have a "mistress" with me when I use this device?
In Bushworld, they struggle to keep church and state separate in Iraq as they increasingly merge the two in America.
Think about beta testing a new game....
Gives a whole new meaning to, "Thank you Sir! May I have another!"
-Goran
Carpe Scrotum - The only way to deal with your competition.
if virtual girlfriend on the PC gave you the Clap.
"Bitch! Who you been Whoring around with?!?!?!"
Ah yes, that strange burning sensation when you peee
WTF? Over?
What's the big deal here?
Couldn't you do the same thing by ripping apart a "rumble pack" and applying the input voltage to your hand instead of to the electric motor?
(With sufficient tweaking to deliver a painful, non-lethal shock of course)
When your character in Quake III dies, will this device emit a lethal dose of voltage so the gamer dies as well?
agree to the terms of this EULA? [Yes/No]
No
Ouch!
No
Ouch!
okay, yes!
I agree that "today's computer interfaces are an ergonomic nightmare." However, to some extent they can be corrected now, without going through voice recognition. Change the keyboard to something designed for people, not something designed for a mechanical typewriter. I gave myself a fairly bad case of RSI while working on my Master's thesis. Since changing to a Datahand keyboard, my hands have been slowly getting better rather than worse. Other people I know prefer Kinesis. Even more offtopic: If you have RSI, the most important things I figured out are: 1. Pay attention to your hands. There's a feeling of discomfort before your hands start to hurt. As you get used to being in pain, you get used to ignoring this discomfort... bad idea. An extra hour of typing is not worth several days of relapse. 2. Sit properly. Move your keyboard, chair, monitor, and desk as necessary. If your upper arms are long compared to your torso, like mine, you may want your keyboard in your lap. 3. If your hands tense up when you start using a keyboard, it may be in anticipation of pain. If so, try switching to a differently arranged keyboard (such as a Kinesis or Datahand, for example) to remove that association. 4. Be aware that extended periods of pain can cause depression. RSIs take years to develop, and for me it has taken years to go away. 5. Go see a doctor. Get your RSI documented, so that later if it has gotten worse you have a visit on record saying it has been an ongoing condition. Read books on RSI, in case your doctor is not familiar enough with RSI to provide useful advice. 6. Pain is a warning that you are doing damage. Ibuprofin reduces swelling, which is good, but also keeps you from getting the feedback that you are damaging your hands. I don't take Ibuprofin unless I am not going to be typing for a while. 7. Every half hour/45 minutes, get up and walk around for a couple minutes. Personally, I listen to CDs as I work - when the CD ends, if I haven't taken a break I should. 8. Examine the other activities of your life. I discovered that I hold paperback books in a way which puts a lot of strain on my thumb and pinky, and changed that. 9. Aerobic exercise seems to help me, and is a good idea even if you don't have RSI. Caveat: I am not a medical doctor. I am simply stating the steps I took to go from stopping after a few hours because of pain, to consistently working 8+ hour days writing software. I mention Datahand and Kinesis keyboards because they are the ergonomic keyboards I see most often. My only relation to Datahand is that of an extremely satisfied customer. I don't have a relationship with Kinesis.
There's always one more bu6
... and nex time, I will use "preview". Honest, the original message had carriage returns in it.
There's always one more bu6
The game itself is based on the first-generation PC game known as Pong, or bar tennis, and is followed by both players through a graphics display in the center of the table.
Huh, the author makes it sound like pong was first implemented on a PC. Hello ???
- sigs are for wimps.
No! To the pain. And I'll explain. I'll use small words so that you'll be sure to understand, you wart-hog faced buffoon. To the pain means the first thing you lose will be your feet below the ankles, then your hands at the wrists, next your nose. I'm not finished. The next thing you lose will be your left eye, followed by your right. Your ears you keep! I'll tell you why. So that every shriek of every child who sees your hideousness will be yours to cherish. Every babe that weeps at your approach, every woman who cries out, "Dear God, what is that thing?" will echo in your perfect ears. That is what "to the pain" means. It means I leave you in anguish, wallowing in freakish misery forever. It's possible, pig, I might be bluffing. It's conceivable, you miserable vomitous mass, that I'm only lying here because I lack the strength to stand. Then again, perhaps I have the strength after all. (struggles to get up) DROP YOUR SWORD!
So, just yesterday I was having a conversation with this guy from the Netherlands, and he was telling me how weird the Germans are. I told him they seemed pretty much like everyone else to me. Today, I'm not so sure.
But hey, if you want to be involved with activities where there is potential for pain if you mess up, may I suggest the following:
- Mountain Biking: Ever seen the "radius" seperated from the "ulna" and sticking "out of the arm"? Mmmm. Compound fractures.
- Rock climbing: You'll probably be saved from most permanent injury by clipping in, but it doesn't always stop people from breaking both kneecaps on a bad fall.
- In-line skating: Actually, ice skating can work too, but gravel or pavement are better surfaces for abrasive punishment on top of impact punishment. They absorb blood better, too.
- Playing with Microwave/EM Cores. What's that smell? Liver? (Don't do this. Seriously. Don't.)
- Dating: Nothing gives good internal pain without permanant damage like dating (well, maybe not permanent).
- River rafting: I'll never forget my dislocated shoulder. Sigh.
Really, I don't know why adding pain to an activity is an accomplishment. Sure, it makes the "stakes" more real, but if you want real stakes, do something real.Tweet, tweet.
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Humperdink: A technicality that will shortly be remedied...but first things first.. [He draws his sword] To the death!
Westley: [slowly sitting up] No! To the pain!
Humperdink: I don't think I'm quite familiar with that phrase?
Westley: I'll explain, and I'll use small words so that you'll be sure to understand. You wart-hog-faced buffoon!
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I can actually see, in the not-so-distant future, hardcore gamer kids voluntarily using this sort of device. If you really really want to be at the top of the ladder, anything that forces you to play a better game could be an advantage...
The big question: Does this improve your overall scores at the game? If so, I bet we'll see some sparks fly from the serious FPS addicts, looking to increase their edge. Can you picture a game of Unreal using this? I, for one, think it would be a hell of a lot more exciting!
You drank my drink, you drunk!
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So being born in Austria is a guarantee of...?
What?
Forget about those plain vanilla "virtual woman" programs...now someone can write a "virtual dominatrix" program. And the whips actually work! :)
"It sure was strange to see something on Usenet about me that didn't involve Klingon gang rape." -- Wil Wheaton
This was derived from the Evil Dr. Flaxon's work on the Baseball Bat Haptic Feedback Device, the Peptic Feedback Probe and other projects. The Digitally-Enforced Midi-Operated Neurocontroller (DEMON) was another early project that met with some success.
Be sure to check out the details on his lab location. It is quite an interesting facility.
Germans. It figures.
Pinging 1.1.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out. Ouch!
Request timed out. Ouch!
Request timed out. Ouch!
Request timed out. Ouch!
^C I give up!
Oh wait. You said "pong", not "ping"...
Madness takes its toll. Exact change please.
1) Drive to local store and buy PC game.
2) Install game on PC, enter 157 digit serial code on back of jewel case.
3) (With great anticipation) Start up game - locks up.
4) Reboot, connect to game Web site, download patchs 1 - 5.
5) Install patches 1 - 5
6) (With anticipation) Start-up game - locks up.
7) Go to M$ site, and download latest version of DirectX
8) Install latest version of DirectX
9) Reboot
10) (With resignation) Start-up game - locks up.
11) Go to Video card manufacturer Web site - download updates to video card driver.
12) Install updates to video driver.
13) Reboot
14) (With great resignation) Start-up game - locks up.
15) Go out to "Gaming" Web site - look through FAQ's, message boards
16) Tweak video card configuration settings
17) Reboot
18) (With fear and loathing) Start up game - it runs!
Compared to this "Painstation" is for WIMPS!!
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Your post is an example of our times and the focus of my point. People simply do not get it.
Read the post again:
We're just not ready as a society for this yet, we squabble over incompetance in copyrights and
intelectual property rights more than we try to improve the world for the betterment of man.
Do you see anything in that sentence about pong?
That sentence is about society and their inibility to grasp points that are slightly more complicated than pop tart instructions. And their stupidity and narrowmindedness about innovating for their own profit, not mankinds benifit.
Let me explain the connection:
VR, Reactive Tactile Environment, the combo goes way beyond pong. It can help doctors perform surgery with microscopic robots inside your heart because they get a tactile response from the sensors on the robots instruments and they can see a zoomed in image in 3 dimensions displayed in their VR glasses to get a up close look at what they are working on. This kind of technology is being developed in many areas by many people around the world, and yes, sometimes it starts out with pong.
) Human Kind Vs Human Creation
) It'd be interesting to see how many humans would survive to serve us.