What if you were poor when you were a child...and never had access to a computer until coming to school. So do you think you would be a
young sysadmin then?
Education may be unimportant to the extreme few who are lucky enough to be smart, talented, motivated and provided with advantages from
birth (smart parents who provide for their kids, access to computers, books, musical instruments, etc.).
I agree with most of what you said, but about growing up poor. I grew up poor, no computer at home or school. For most of my youth I had a love/hate affair with computers. It was not until I picked up an entry level phone support job that I realized I really liked computers. Three years later I am working as a linux sys admin. I do it for the love and little for the money. I never graduated HS and yes I take a little bit of pride when I think about that fact and look at my income. But I will also say I take a lot more pride when I look at what I can do with that knowledge. So even without money you can learn, 486, a library and $2 cd from linuxmall and you are set.
The motivation and the intellegnce is the thing that seems to be running short in most people.
I just want to add another name to the list here. Also never having finished HS and doing Sys admin work. High School was a complete waste of time for me. Cheers to those that can teach themselves!
First he said that he doesn't want to have to make choices on what software installs. He wants all hardware supported without doing any work, real PNP. That and he wants all files to be automagically assoicated with thier applications. I can understand the general point, but in the real world things just are not that easy.
Can someone just give him the world on a plate and see if this appeases him. Where do they find these people????
First it was that linux had no software for it...
Now its, there is too much software. I am sorry but its a CD or 4 use what you want and take out what you don't. Don't use distro's like Caldera that don't give you the selection of packages. Zdnet is just mindlessly complaining at this point.
This is a hard argument. By no means do any of us want a censored internet. Realistically, however this would almost never happen.
The fact of the matter is, that if these are the things you want to see or read, then do it from home. Computers are affordable for most people and with internet appliances, just for that purpose, well you can see where I am going.
The point is, that a public instution owns the machines, its thier right to do what they will with them, the kids will just create holes anyway and I see this as no infiltration into my personal browsing rights.
The best way I have found to consume these, are by dropping two in a liter of coke and getting that chemical reaction, then you have mint coke, kind of flat, but good nonetheless.
I don't like the banner ads anymore than the next person. however its a small price to pay for a stable browser, which N$ 6 is not! In the first hour it crashed 6 times on mostly static pages, that is unaccpetable, no matter how much advertising is in there.
I know, I know Mozilla. However the point is still relevant.
I have noticed that at my new job, the lights above the cubes are off. This makes me much happier, and I don't mind being trapped in my box nearly as bad. Perhaps its the glaring hallogen baring down on our heads that makes it so depressing, or at least pushes the matter futher.
Just a thought
way behind. To me its just making more "excuses" for people to avoid learning anything about thier computers. I don't think that everyone should be a programmer or an admin. However making more "wizards" and "pretty, over sized icons", does not help people actually figure out what is going on in side the OS.
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I am still here and just last week three of my friends bands played in dirty basement, with a lot of beer. Not much has changed.:) I am still enjoying it too.
I don't know about that....
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I enjoy my job, I like the people that I work with. I more than happy to listen to how thier day is going and such, however, they are co-workers, they have a seperate private life and as do I.
I think (IMHO) that these should be kept seperate unless deemed necessary, I don't think this is alienation, I think this is respect for not "dumping" on your co-workers and also not letting your life interfere with your work, now if I can figure how to do the opposite I will be a step ahead:)
Team spirit is in working together to achieve the result necessary to do the work and do it correctly, not in wasting your Saturday playing softball with the same people that you see all week. Just my $.02...
I would have to say that my love for Religion as a general substance is over my love for computers. I have been studying Religion for about 14 years straight. Everything from Crowley to Catholic Practices.
I can see the direct coorelation from computers and magick. Computers are a "non-real" way of making real things happen. Electronic money for example is just as real as cash money, however its intangable in the physical world. This is just as much magick as anything else.
Going on that tangent however Crowley once said in "Magick Theory and Practice" that any act is a magickal act So with that said, pretty much anything would be considered magick.
If you ask me TCP/IP is a startling realization of this fact. How many people understand completely and absolutley how TCP/IP works, yet how many people use it??
That and Bill Gates actually rising to any kind of success. There has got to be something else going on there, with software like that, we know he didn't earn it.:)
How about since he is killing everything great in Star Wars, Episode three can be nothing but Jar Jar and Ewoks! If he hasn't pissed off everyone by now, that will do it for sure!
Using Linux by Bill Ball and Que publishers is a great book for refrence. Its not much in the way of a read from begining to end or for the new user, but in the refrence dept, I love it. I find my myself going between this and Linux little black book of configuration quite a bit. Direct to the point and chock full of good information. If you get a chance, check either one of them out.
About a good five or six years ago, I remember hanging out with some fellow geeks, watching underground videos of these wars. I hadn't heard of anything about it since that Malcom in the Middle episode.
So needless to say I am ecstatic to see it back, and in regular format. Now I just need to justify getting cable...:)
Here is a site that offers links for tiny X, a little X windows that fits on a floppy. There everyone is happy now, and we can live in a world of 1.4 mgs!
There is a game out there, Mars Attacks I want to say... Anyway its a pinball game except that there is a well more or less GUI at the back of the board. You have to hit the back of the board with the ball in predetermined spots to shoot a missle for example, this setting of a graphical sequence. What you get is a nice mixture of the two sides and just a damn good and funny game. Perhaps this could be the saving grace of pinball?
I always wanted to patent unscented perfume, much in the same thought as unscented deodrant. More as just proof that people will buy anything given the marketing monkeys do their job.
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Yoda's teachings were all based on Eastern Philosophy. I would say that someone was doing thier homework.
I thought that I read they fired Kenny Baker, yet his name appears in the list of characters for R2D2. Anyone have any ideas here?
I agree with most of what you said, but about growing up poor. I grew up poor, no computer at home or school. For most of my youth I had a love/hate affair with computers. It was not until I picked up an entry level phone support job that I realized I really liked computers. Three years later I am working as a linux sys admin. I do it for the love and little for the money. I never graduated HS and yes I take a little bit of pride when I think about that fact and look at my income. But I will also say I take a lot more pride when I look at what I can do with that knowledge. So even without money you can learn, 486, a library and $2 cd from linuxmall and you are set.
The motivation and the intellegnce is the thing that seems to be running short in most people.
I just want to add another name to the list here. Also never having finished HS and doing Sys admin work. High School was a complete waste of time for me. Cheers to those that can teach themselves!
First he said that he doesn't want to have to make choices on what software installs. He wants all hardware supported without doing any work, real PNP. That and he wants all files to be automagically assoicated with thier applications. I can understand the general point, but in the real world things just are not that easy.
Can someone just give him the world on a plate and see if this appeases him. Where do they find these people????
First it was that linux had no software for it...
Now its, there is too much software. I am sorry but its a CD or 4 use what you want and take out what you don't. Don't use distro's like Caldera that don't give you the selection of packages. Zdnet is just mindlessly complaining at this point.
I just had to,
lousy smarch wheather.
hehehe
The fact of the matter is, that if these are the things you want to see or read, then do it from home. Computers are affordable for most people and with internet appliances, just for that purpose, well you can see where I am going.
The point is, that a public instution owns the machines, its thier right to do what they will with them, the kids will just create holes anyway and I see this as no infiltration into my personal browsing rights.
Imagine getting a thank you for $350 worth of WWF merchandise. Thats frightening on any level...
The best way I have found to consume these, are by dropping two in a liter of coke and getting that chemical reaction, then you have mint coke, kind of flat, but good nonetheless.
I know, I know Mozilla. However the point is still relevant.
but, if voting changed anything they would make it illegal, sorry, but that is really the way I feel.
I have noticed that at my new job, the lights above the cubes are off. This makes me much happier, and I don't mind being trapped in my box nearly as bad. Perhaps its the glaring hallogen baring down on our heads that makes it so depressing, or at least pushes the matter futher. Just a thought
Once I saw that he surrpassed the Library of Congress, the drool was running off my chin. :)
way behind. To me its just making more "excuses" for people to avoid learning anything about thier computers. I don't think that everyone should be a programmer or an admin. However making more "wizards" and "pretty, over sized icons", does not help people actually figure out what is going on in side the OS.
I am still here and just last week three of my friends bands played in dirty basement, with a lot of beer. Not much has changed. :) I am still enjoying it too.
I think (IMHO) that these should be kept seperate unless deemed necessary, I don't think this is alienation, I think this is respect for not "dumping" on your co-workers and also not letting your life interfere with your work, now if I can figure how to do the opposite I will be a step ahead :)
Team spirit is in working together to achieve the result necessary to do the work and do it correctly, not in wasting your Saturday playing softball with the same people that you see all week. Just my $.02...
To anyone who doubts geeks love with Religion, one name will answer that. Lovecraft.
I can see the direct coorelation from computers and magick. Computers are a "non-real" way of making real things happen. Electronic money for example is just as real as cash money, however its intangable in the physical world. This is just as much magick as anything else.
Going on that tangent however Crowley once said in "Magick Theory and Practice" that any act is a magickal act So with that said, pretty much anything would be considered magick.
If you ask me TCP/IP is a startling realization of this fact. How many people understand completely and absolutley how TCP/IP works, yet how many people use it??
That and Bill Gates actually rising to any kind of success. There has got to be something else going on there, with software like that, we know he didn't earn it. :)
How about since he is killing everything great in Star Wars, Episode three can be nothing but Jar Jar and Ewoks! If he hasn't pissed off everyone by now, that will do it for sure!
Using Linux by Bill Ball and Que publishers is a great book for refrence. Its not much in the way of a read from begining to end or for the new user, but in the refrence dept, I love it. I find my myself going between this and Linux little black book of configuration quite a bit. Direct to the point and chock full of good information. If you get a chance, check either one of them out.
So needless to say I am ecstatic to see it back, and in regular format. Now I just need to justify getting cable... :)
Here is a site that offers links for tiny X, a little X windows that fits on a floppy. There everyone is happy now, and we can live in a world of 1.4 mgs!
There is a game out there, Mars Attacks I want to say... Anyway its a pinball game except that there is a well more or less GUI at the back of the board. You have to hit the back of the board with the ball in predetermined spots to shoot a missle for example, this setting of a graphical sequence. What you get is a nice mixture of the two sides and just a damn good and funny game. Perhaps this could be the saving grace of pinball?
I always wanted to patent unscented perfume, much in the same thought as unscented deodrant. More as just proof that people will buy anything given the marketing monkeys do their job.