Maybe it's not reimplemenation of WINE, but a good installer for it, similar to Crossover Office. Last I checked, WINE does not have an installer, and free solutions aren't very good. And $10k for a set of good config files and an installer seems to actually be generous.
Actually, I was just in Toronto a few weeks back, and they have caffeine now- look for something called Mountain Dew Energy (dunno if you guys have Mountain Dew Amp, that's the Red Bull-like stuff. Not that.) It'll contain all sorts of fun drug information about the caffeine and say it's for active people.
It's the same stuff the other 50 states have been enjoying for years.
A friend of mine just got a dell laptop. I wiped it and installed XP SP2 on it. If I hadn't remembered to backup the drivers, it wouldn't have done ANYTHING (wireless networking, wired networking, SVGA, etc).
i.e. to get it working, it needed manual intervention (oh and, it didn't even tell me during install that it couldn't find drivers- it just listed the devices and marked them as broken in device manager. Not what I call friendly.)
Now, I don't know how many wireless cards are supported by the manufacturer, but most companies should include detailed enough instructions (i.e. if you can find the windows drivers, you can find what you need to do a linux install)
1. MS doesn't do this now, never has. Recently, they started offering a service of certification. Vendors still write the drivers.
2. The agreement in place is that they can't ship a system with NO operating system. A while back, one of the big players was offering a system designed to be customized by the consumer, and shipped with a blank drive. Due to this agreement, it shipped with FreeDOS, on a floppy, and not installed.
Now, it would be avoided, since (IIRC) Dell allows you to get no OS, but it's more expensive than OEM Windows, because it's a nonstandard choice that breaks their assembly line. Most whitebox vendors don't give you much choice, because people don't want much choice.
However, if OSx86 catches on, you'll be able to get your $300 Dell with your choice of XP Home, XP Pro, or OSX.
3. Yeah, but that gains marketshare. Double-edged sword.
I was thinking about how well my current system is running, especially compared to olden days. Did Microsoft get so much better at supporting all my hardware? I don't think so. The makers of my hardware got their act together. nVidia released excellent drivers. Via released excellent drivers. ATi released excellent drivers. Promise released excellent drivers...
Mac only supports a few configurations, so they only have to make good drivers for a few things. And some of them aren't even done by them (see ATi).
Any driver/configuration issues would be related to the manufacturer. Just as we all know that nVidia released great Linux drivers and ATi hasn't, and that a Linux user should buy an nVidia graphics card, we might soon know that Mac OSx86 users should buy ATi and not nVidia.
Apple's moved rather heavily to components that are standard in the x86 world. PCI, IDE, etc is now standard, even on PPC Macs. The only things that would be really new are things relating to the x86 CPU itself- mainly the chipset. There are only a handful of chipset makers out there, and most use the same drivers for all the variations of a line (e.g. all forms of GeForce). I can't see nVidia refusing to release drivers for OSX/x86 when it could open themselves up to an entirely new market. Sure, the "Mactel" systems might be Intel board/chipset/CPU, but why limit it artificially?
Too big a market to skip for no good reason. Anyone that has a decent Linux driver would release a good OSX driver. Apple could even certify a few alternatives, like "Asus M5N, certified to work with MacOSX" for whitebox builders. Everything on the board would be as supported as the official boards.
OOo isn't putting much effort into it, but Apple might. They've already turned Konqueror into Safari, and that caught on. Fork OOo and call it AppleOffice, and there wouldn't be much of a problem.
Thing is, most stuff in macs are standard PC hardware anyway. Last I checked, the Superdrive was the Pioneer A0x series. The video cards are ATI.
I also can't imagine that the demo machine was non-standard, that would be way too complicated and would've led to more leaks. IIRC, it was announced that it was a P4, Intel board, Intel chipset. It should run on a select few configurations.
Either you have never tried to copy an encrypted DVD, or you have never used a consumer model. Only DVD-R for Authoring has any support for CSS key (and that seems poor).
You also do need to decrypt the data to play it- hell, old DVD ripping techniques involved using PowerDVD/WinDVD to get the decryption key off the disc!
Your money is a drop in the bucket. The unwashed masses will complain about shit like this in the same breath as they talk about buying more CDs. People have short attention spans, try what I do- don't refer to it as buying a CD or DVD. Give it a better term, such as mine: Funding more lawsuits. Kinda keeps things in front of them.
You're missing something very important: DVD Jon is from Norway. Norway has a *VERY* different legal system than the US and the UK. He also claims to have not written the offending code, and been law-abiding. And he was taken to court. Twice.
AFAIK, DVD Decrypter is illegal under UK Law, and Lightning UK wrote it all himself.
Simply being different seems like a poor reason to choose an OS, or hardware, or anything for that matter.
(Besides, for openness and liberty, x86 seems to have that one better anyway- much less vendor lock-in, and several major competing vendors for every piece. No independence when locked in.)
So they know he had a meeting with John Doe, Attorney at Law, and you think that's evidence that they are willfully infringing? There are so many things they could've discussed- such as licensing issues for the multiplayer games they officially run- that it wouldn't even be noticed. Hell, it's a defense more than anything- "We met with John Doe to discuss what we could legally do".
Besides, intentionally ignoring these acts is apparently a solid legal position, based on how many ISPs (esp. NSPs) will not act except on a very specific complaint (i.e. they pretend it doesn't exist, unless it would jeopardize their common carrier status). This is on the advice of their (sometimes huge) legal departments.
This is also a bug on x86. Wrote a brief bit of Javascript to do some math for me at one point.
<script language="JavaScript"> <!-- var data = window.prompt("How much?",""); var free = 4.37 - data; document.write("4.37 - "+ data +" = "+ free +". Weird."); // --> </script>
I remember this failing on my AthlonXP (IIRC, the value entered had to be above ~3.3), and now my Athlon64, and just verified that it also exists on PPro running Linux. Same results in IE and Firefox. However, Windows Calculator remains accurate, as does gcalctool.
I don't see the UI being an issue- as long as the styles are well-designed, and used PROPERLY, it will appear as native. I'm typing this on XP, but killed the fischer-price theme and went with classic windows. Most apps follow my choice of theme without a problem.
As for WINE, it would need A LOT of development, and constant maintenance to keep up with MS breaking everything (technically, Windows doesn't rely on IE- IE relies on Windows having a number of APIs available- which is why installing IE on WINE greatly improves compatability)
"Fat binaries", as already mentioned earlier, would create a more OS-agnostic market. If it's only a simple compiler option to allow the same software to work on Windows, Mac, and (maybe) even Linux, most would. This would do a lot to eliminate the Windows monopoly, but might not help Apple, since everyone could move to Linux without a problem.
I would disagree, the EFF is usually much more on the Chicken Little side of things (and with good cause). If they thought the MPAA was up to anything, this would be a call to arms.
VIA is not a problem anymore, I know from experience the KT266 works great, and apparently so do all the rest now. (Granted, a few years back, they were all craptacular. Not anymore).
I haven't tried this on XP, but is it always that hard? I've just recently dealt with 98SE, and the only hard thing is getting the 98 CD on the HD (because, for some reason, the IDE drivers in safe mode are good enough to get to the HD, but not to the CD. Stupid MS). If the 98 CD is on the HD (knoppix can be a life saver here), then there is no trouble. Oh yeah, it wasn't a small change, either- Asus A7V to Asus K8N- and no real problems.
Granted, I've since tried A7V266 to K8N on XP, and it went BSOD instantly, no negotiating. That made for an unexpected reinstall.
Not necessarily, some software can do it. For a very common example, Azureus 2.2.0.0 was a FREQUENT source of BSODs. Went back to 2.1.0.4 and haven't had an issue since.
As a side note, Although drivers are a common issue, they don't have to be seriously buggy to be a serious problem- The standard Netgear FA311 drivers work very well, except in combination with ANY BitTorrent client, which result in freezes and requiring reboots. The nForce3 250 IDE drivers work well, but cause conflicts (e.g. BSOD when combined with ZoneAlarm).
Is that really a good solution? Once it becomes commonplace, the zombies that can no longer spam will just become DDoS bots (or whatever the next big thing is). Better to make it known early.
you're assuming that all those SMTP servers are legit.
I don't run a mail server. If a worm started spamming, I wouldn't even know if my ISP blocked port 25. But I'd sure as hell know if they blocked port 80.
Solution: Block both. Hell, block everything until it's fixed. Make it go to a simple page that says "Your system's fucked. Use these tools to fix it..."
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Maybe it's not reimplemenation of WINE, but a good installer for it, similar to Crossover Office. Last I checked, WINE does not have an installer, and free solutions aren't very good. And $10k for a set of good config files and an installer seems to actually be generous.
Actually, I was just in Toronto a few weeks back, and they have caffeine now- look for something called Mountain Dew Energy (dunno if you guys have Mountain Dew Amp, that's the Red Bull-like stuff. Not that.) It'll contain all sorts of fun drug information about the caffeine and say it's for active people.
It's the same stuff the other 50 states have been enjoying for years.
A friend of mine just got a dell laptop. I wiped it and installed XP SP2 on it. If I hadn't remembered to backup the drivers, it wouldn't have done ANYTHING (wireless networking, wired networking, SVGA, etc).
i.e. to get it working, it needed manual intervention (oh and, it didn't even tell me during install that it couldn't find drivers- it just listed the devices and marked them as broken in device manager. Not what I call friendly.)
Now, I don't know how many wireless cards are supported by the manufacturer, but most companies should include detailed enough instructions (i.e. if you can find the windows drivers, you can find what you need to do a linux install)
thing is, mineral oil is just to transfer the heat, it doesn't actually get cold. What they used to make the mineral oil cold enough to freeze?
A standard window A/C.
1. MS doesn't do this now, never has. Recently, they started offering a service of certification. Vendors still write the drivers.
2. The agreement in place is that they can't ship a system with NO operating system. A while back, one of the big players was offering a system designed to be customized by the consumer, and shipped with a blank drive. Due to this agreement, it shipped with FreeDOS, on a floppy, and not installed.
Now, it would be avoided, since (IIRC) Dell allows you to get no OS, but it's more expensive than OEM Windows, because it's a nonstandard choice that breaks their assembly line. Most whitebox vendors don't give you much choice, because people don't want much choice.
However, if OSx86 catches on, you'll be able to get your $300 Dell with your choice of XP Home, XP Pro, or OSX.
3. Yeah, but that gains marketshare. Double-edged sword.
I was thinking about how well my current system is running, especially compared to olden days. Did Microsoft get so much better at supporting all my hardware? I don't think so. The makers of my hardware got their act together. nVidia released excellent drivers. Via released excellent drivers. ATi released excellent drivers. Promise released excellent drivers...
Mac only supports a few configurations, so they only have to make good drivers for a few things. And some of them aren't even done by them (see ATi).
Any driver/configuration issues would be related to the manufacturer. Just as we all know that nVidia released great Linux drivers and ATi hasn't, and that a Linux user should buy an nVidia graphics card, we might soon know that Mac OSx86 users should buy ATi and not nVidia.
Apple's moved rather heavily to components that are standard in the x86 world. PCI, IDE, etc is now standard, even on PPC Macs. The only things that would be really new are things relating to the x86 CPU itself- mainly the chipset. There are only a handful of chipset makers out there, and most use the same drivers for all the variations of a line (e.g. all forms of GeForce). I can't see nVidia refusing to release drivers for OSX/x86 when it could open themselves up to an entirely new market. Sure, the "Mactel" systems might be Intel board/chipset/CPU, but why limit it artificially?
Too big a market to skip for no good reason. Anyone that has a decent Linux driver would release a good OSX driver. Apple could even certify a few alternatives, like "Asus M5N, certified to work with MacOSX" for whitebox builders. Everything on the board would be as supported as the official boards.
OOo isn't putting much effort into it, but Apple might. They've already turned Konqueror into Safari, and that caught on. Fork OOo and call it AppleOffice, and there wouldn't be much of a problem.
Thing is, most stuff in macs are standard PC hardware anyway. Last I checked, the Superdrive was the Pioneer A0x series. The video cards are ATI.
I also can't imagine that the demo machine was non-standard, that would be way too complicated and would've led to more leaks. IIRC, it was announced that it was a P4, Intel board, Intel chipset. It should run on a select few configurations.
A simple stretch wouldn't. However, there are many programs that will smooth the edges, and thus improve quality.
Either you have never tried to copy an encrypted DVD, or you have never used a consumer model. Only DVD-R for Authoring has any support for CSS key (and that seems poor).
You also do need to decrypt the data to play it- hell, old DVD ripping techniques involved using PowerDVD/WinDVD to get the decryption key off the disc!
Quality can be improved. Through A/V filters, or HD upconversion.
Your money is a drop in the bucket. The unwashed masses will complain about shit like this in the same breath as they talk about buying more CDs. People have short attention spans, try what I do- don't refer to it as buying a CD or DVD. Give it a better term, such as mine: Funding more lawsuits. Kinda keeps things in front of them.
You're missing something very important:
DVD Jon is from Norway. Norway has a *VERY* different legal system than the US and the UK. He also claims to have not written the offending code, and been law-abiding. And he was taken to court. Twice.
AFAIK, DVD Decrypter is illegal under UK Law, and Lightning UK wrote it all himself.
Simply being different seems like a poor reason to choose an OS, or hardware, or anything for that matter.
(Besides, for openness and liberty, x86 seems to have that one better anyway- much less vendor lock-in, and several major competing vendors for every piece. No independence when locked in.)
So they know he had a meeting with John Doe, Attorney at Law, and you think that's evidence that they are willfully infringing? There are so many things they could've discussed- such as licensing issues for the multiplayer games they officially run- that it wouldn't even be noticed. Hell, it's a defense more than anything- "We met with John Doe to discuss what we could legally do".
Besides, intentionally ignoring these acts is apparently a solid legal position, based on how many ISPs (esp. NSPs) will not act except on a very specific complaint (i.e. they pretend it doesn't exist, unless it would jeopardize their common carrier status). This is on the advice of their (sometimes huge) legal departments.
This is also a bug on x86. Wrote a brief bit of Javascript to do some math for me at one point.
// -->
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
var data = window.prompt("How much?","");
var free = 4.37 - data;
document.write("4.37 - "+ data +" = "+ free +". Weird.");
</script>
I remember this failing on my AthlonXP (IIRC, the value entered had to be above ~3.3), and now my Athlon64, and just verified that it also exists on PPro running Linux. Same results in IE and Firefox. However, Windows Calculator remains accurate, as does gcalctool.
I don't see the UI being an issue- as long as the styles are well-designed, and used PROPERLY, it will appear as native. I'm typing this on XP, but killed the fischer-price theme and went with classic windows. Most apps follow my choice of theme without a problem.
As for WINE, it would need A LOT of development, and constant maintenance to keep up with MS breaking everything (technically, Windows doesn't rely on IE- IE relies on Windows having a number of APIs available- which is why installing IE on WINE greatly improves compatability)
"Fat binaries", as already mentioned earlier, would create a more OS-agnostic market. If it's only a simple compiler option to allow the same software to work on Windows, Mac, and (maybe) even Linux, most would. This would do a lot to eliminate the Windows monopoly, but might not help Apple, since everyone could move to Linux without a problem.
From the TVTool website:
System requirements:
* nVidia graphics cards with TV output (TNT-1 or later)
I would disagree, the EFF is usually much more on the Chicken Little side of things (and with good cause). If they thought the MPAA was up to anything, this would be a call to arms.
Disclaimer: I'm a proud member of EFF.
VIA is not a problem anymore, I know from experience the KT266 works great, and apparently so do all the rest now. (Granted, a few years back, they were all craptacular. Not anymore).
I haven't tried this on XP, but is it always that hard? I've just recently dealt with 98SE, and the only hard thing is getting the 98 CD on the HD (because, for some reason, the IDE drivers in safe mode are good enough to get to the HD, but not to the CD. Stupid MS). If the 98 CD is on the HD (knoppix can be a life saver here), then there is no trouble. Oh yeah, it wasn't a small change, either- Asus A7V to Asus K8N- and no real problems.
Granted, I've since tried A7V266 to K8N on XP, and it went BSOD instantly, no negotiating. That made for an unexpected reinstall.
Not necessarily, some software can do it. For a very common example, Azureus 2.2.0.0 was a FREQUENT source of BSODs. Went back to 2.1.0.4 and haven't had an issue since.
As a side note, Although drivers are a common issue, they don't have to be seriously buggy to be a serious problem- The standard Netgear FA311 drivers work very well, except in combination with ANY BitTorrent client, which result in freezes and requiring reboots. The nForce3 250 IDE drivers work well, but cause conflicts (e.g. BSOD when combined with ZoneAlarm).
Is that really a good solution? Once it becomes commonplace, the zombies that can no longer spam will just become DDoS bots (or whatever the next big thing is). Better to make it known early.
you're assuming that all those SMTP servers are legit.
I don't run a mail server. If a worm started spamming, I wouldn't even know if my ISP blocked port 25. But I'd sure as hell know if they blocked port 80.
Solution: Block both. Hell, block everything until it's fixed. Make it go to a simple page that says "Your system's fucked. Use these tools to fix it..."