I must be a moron, I grab the ISO's when i'm at Linux user group meetings, and then bring them home to do the updates on the 3 other machines I have here. If I was to do that via the net connection I have at home (each machine uses a different variety of packages) I'd probably end up downloading about 200-300Mb of stuff. On my lousy connection (Sucks to live in Aust, no viable bandwidth solutions), that equals about 3 days of continious downloading. Pull your head out of your arse. Not everyone wants to do network installs, or has the capablility.
hehe, yeah, thank you Virgin (airlines), that's what brought that new rule in here.
Gotta suck doesn't it, when you've got a small clothing shop or something and and some damm airline comes and stomps a big case on you for using their name, eg Virgin Clothes, or something like that.
It has a video/audio in jack right? Buy a normal DVD player and plug the jacks in.. Easy DVD for linux.. That what I do when I want DVD on Linux..
Why fork out the extra cash? and I do it the reverse way, with Riva TNT2 and put it to the TV. it works, just have to reboot *shudder* to windows. Linux will catch up on DVD eventually, it's out there, just not as advanced as windows support is atm.
3 faults with that, 1. i can't get it here. 2. They won't give me a static ip, and 3. I can't get a block of 8 ip's for my network. These services I believe in the states are significantly cheaper, eg I pay $180/month now for 56k permanent with 8 ip's, and 800mb download limit. I have a choice between that and same price and only a 300mb download limit. Not bad for my area, just on the regional outskirts of a capital city.
well, chew on this, 50 Internet service providers available to me at local call rates if i moved a mere 10km either way from where I live now. Either toward Brisbane, or Toward the Sunshine Coast. Does it make sense? That to get to the Sunshine Coast you have go thru our area, yet, we don't enjoy the benifits that either Brisbane or Sunshine Coast do? Great for Telstra, everything from here is rated Long distance. And as a result the local ISP's are forced to drive their prices up because they can't operate at the same margins that city ISP's do, due to Line costs that can sometimes be 5 times more than city rates. Work that one out.
that converts to $938 australian per month, if that's line and internet access, that's cheaper than the major providers in Aust. For me to get 64k ISDN here it's $1000 setup and $900/month for the Internet access (not including hardware costs on my end, that's the ISP charges), and $295 setup and $135/month minimum on the ISDN line.
Bah, yeah they've got cable in Sydney Brisbane and Melbourne etc. Even the Sunshine Coast. (100 km north of Brisbane) BUT consider this. I live midway between Brisbane and the Sunshine Coast. The FASTEST connection I can get here is 64k ISDN at approximately $1400/month. (and No I'm not joking, visit the Cynosure ISP website to check). We are 4km (lousy isn't it) over the boundary to Brisbane or Sunshine Coast either way, Cable (according to Telstra and Optus), is not slated for rollout here in the next 5 years, and DSL is not slated for here for another 2 years at least. Plus, what good will cable do the average web hoster like me? Telstra and Optus's policy is NO SERVERS AT ALL. Telstra will let you run a server, but it's 1.6GB download limit per month on the cable, and 27c/Mb afterwards, and no, not a standard Mb either, (1000000 not 1048576). 1.6Gb? jeez, cable could knock that over in about a week without trying. Work that out. lets see, say you did 1.6GB a week Thats, 4.8GB over your limit, which is, (according to them), 4800Mb, multiply by 0.27 = $1296. Add your basic monthly cable rental $70, for a total cost per month of $1366. I may as well get ISDN, may be slower, but at least it's unlimited.
Sucks to be Australian (when it comes to the internet).
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I must be a moron, I grab the ISO's when i'm at Linux user group meetings, and then bring them home to do the updates on the 3 other machines I have here. If I was to do that via the net connection I have at home (each machine uses a different variety of packages) I'd probably end up downloading about 200-300Mb of stuff. On my lousy connection (Sucks to live in Aust, no viable bandwidth solutions), that equals about 3 days of continious downloading. Pull your head out of your arse. Not everyone wants to do network installs, or has the capablility.
hehe, yeah, thank you Virgin (airlines), that's what brought that new rule in here. Gotta suck doesn't it, when you've got a small clothing shop or something and and some damm airline comes and stomps a big case on you for using their name, eg Virgin Clothes, or something like that.
Pardon the expression but *tug* *tug* *tug*, man what a troll, heh
It has a video/audio in jack right? Buy a normal DVD player and plug the jacks in.. Easy DVD for linux.. That what I do when I want DVD on Linux..
Why fork out the extra cash? and I do it the reverse way, with Riva TNT2 and put it to the TV. it works, just have to reboot *shudder* to windows. Linux will catch up on DVD eventually, it's out there, just not as advanced as windows support is atm.
3 faults with that, 1. i can't get it here. 2. They won't give me a static ip, and 3. I can't get a block of 8 ip's for my network. These services I believe in the states are significantly cheaper, eg I pay $180/month now for 56k permanent with 8 ip's, and 800mb download limit. I have a choice between that and same price and only a 300mb download limit. Not bad for my area, just on the regional outskirts of a capital city.
Bah, what about me? just outside (and i'm talking 5km at most) the local ISDN call boundary in 2 directions? Gotta wonder bout Telstra sometimes.
well, chew on this, 50 Internet service providers available to me at local call rates if i moved a mere 10km either way from where I live now. Either toward Brisbane, or Toward the Sunshine Coast. Does it make sense? That to get to the Sunshine Coast you have go thru our area, yet, we don't enjoy the benifits that either Brisbane or Sunshine Coast do? Great for Telstra, everything from here is rated Long distance. And as a result the local ISP's are forced to drive their prices up because they can't operate at the same margins that city ISP's do, due to Line costs that can sometimes be 5 times more than city rates. Work that one out.
I think he's referring to the 64k of Bandwidth, which is indeed $900/month, then add your NDD1 on top of that.
that converts to $938 australian per month, if that's line and internet access, that's cheaper than the major providers in Aust. For me to get 64k ISDN here it's $1000 setup and $900/month for the Internet access (not including hardware costs on my end, that's the ISP charges), and $295 setup and $135/month minimum on the ISDN line.
bah, do you get kicked off after 4 hours online no matter what? do you have a 200 or 300mb download limit with excess costing at least 19c/mb?
Bah, yeah they've got cable in Sydney Brisbane and Melbourne etc. Even the Sunshine Coast. (100 km north of Brisbane) BUT consider this. I live midway between Brisbane and the Sunshine Coast. The FASTEST connection I can get here is 64k ISDN at approximately $1400/month. (and No I'm not joking, visit the Cynosure ISP website to check). We are 4km (lousy isn't it) over the boundary to Brisbane or Sunshine Coast either way, Cable (according to Telstra and Optus), is not slated for rollout here in the next 5 years, and DSL is not slated for here for another 2 years at least. Plus, what good will cable do the average web hoster like me? Telstra and Optus's policy is NO SERVERS AT ALL. Telstra will let you run a server, but it's 1.6GB download limit per month on the cable, and 27c/Mb afterwards, and no, not a standard Mb either, (1000000 not 1048576). 1.6Gb? jeez, cable could knock that over in about a week without trying. Work that out. lets see, say you did 1.6GB a week Thats, 4.8GB over your limit, which is, (according to them), 4800Mb, multiply by 0.27 = $1296. Add your basic monthly cable rental $70, for a total cost per month of $1366. I may as well get ISDN, may be slower, but at least it's unlimited.
Sucks to be Australian (when it comes to the internet).
Hardware is hugely expensive in australia anyway, what sort of difference is a few cents going to make?