that we all were 'self-righteous YABW's'...but anyway...
That's some way of showing no "ill will"...
Regarding your hope that I not connect with any online source...what a ridiculous idea...I hope I can clarify -- I believe in the right for an artist to be compensated for her work. Crucify me...
'Sharing' in today's terms is not really what we term sharing from oh, say 1970. I know it is an unpopular view, but I believe it is accurate. Programs such as this behave like 'corporate veil' defenses..."I just want to share the music with a couple of friends..." really means, "I just want to release the music into the wild without the copyright holders consent..."
Now, I have said it before, I believe most musicians should make their money touring, etc... however, I don't believe that civil disobedience in this case is the practice of consuming copyright content and not compensating those who legally should be compensated...If you don't like the practices of the RIAA, the Record companies and the Artists who sell their rights to said companies, don't listen to the music represented by them. That means don't be two-faced and download the music you enjoy, pretending you are doing something radical or meaningful by doing so...you are not, you are stealing...
p.s. While I wish you no ill, Jesus is Santa Claus...HAND...
...sharing anything with 15 people is wrong...now 'wrong' is a loaded word, I agree, but as I said, this 'feature' existed in iTunes originally, the ability to stream to a limited group of friends...this was removed because programs like iTunesDL broke the agreed upon trust, and allowed people to download the music being broadcast -- not fair...
So, yes, I do think personally you should be able to 'play' your music for a group of friends/co-workers, but that is not what this program is really about...
Most of the fair use provisions are highly specific exemptions from copyright liability that Congress has enacted to encourage, or at least to allow, certain behavior. These specific exemptions from liability can be found in Section 108 through 120 of the Copyright Act. The catch-all provision, which is the provision generally being referred to when the term "fair use" is used, is section 107. This catch-all fair use provision specifically provides a safe harbor for what would otherwise be infringing activities if such activities are engaged in for the purpose of teaching, scholarship and research.
Granted, we have all gotten away with 'sharing' music with friends and co-workers over the years, but realize that the scale and nature of 'sharing' is vastly different today for most people...mind you, I don't care, I am not saying this from a high moral ground, I am simply stating the facts and I don't believe the way to change some laws you do not like is to be unlawful...vote differently, participate in your country's IP dialog, but don't be un-informed.
"I predict that within 48 hours, Apple will release iTunes 4.1.2. The only "feature" that 4.1.2 will add: you guessed it, the disablement of MyTunes."
Filesharing of copyrighted material, in most cases is wrong...end of story...
Sure, limited swapping of music amongst friends (mix tapes, party mixes) is absolutely 'fair use', no question, but no one believes programs like this or iTunesDL have any other use than the wholesale theft of music that the user has not payed for...
I would make one important exception -- something that we had, but lost due to just this type of wrongheaded thinking -- sharing your own music with yourself remotely...iTunes had this originally and it was removed because of abuse...so you already fucked it up for us...
That is kinda what I was aiming at...Something like SPEC2000, but free/open source(a good cross-platform capable suite) or like XBench for OS X(already free, but not cross platfrom). Both types of testing progs seem to give well-rounded complex test results.
I guess the meat of the question regards the dispute over using different compilers in relation to comparative testing...With the recent G5 debate focusing on the fairly noted use of GCC on both platforms instead of an intel-specific compiler, leading to lower SPEC scores for the Dell systems tested, I wonder how such discrepancies could be avoided in the pursuit of fairer/leveled testing scenarios...
I'm not debating the veracity of the actual circumstances of Lynch's situation...I was simply commending the individual who put an end to the beginning of a tasteless thread. I agree the Bush regime is out of control, but that is irrelevant to the lack of humor regarding rape.
I now realize you are a total wanker...do you even comprehend the nature of my post?
I am not debating the claims of performance, I am commenting on the ridiculous nature of British advertising oversight. If you could get that horse dick you call open/free whatever-it-is-you-champion, out of your ass you fucking worthless twat, maybe you could think straight instead of endlessly spouting off your fucking dribble.
Your ideas regarding 'propreietary vs. open' anything are meaningless in the face of your attempts to defend them. You have never once supported your choices with anything other than reactionary, "at least it's not expensive MS/Apple propreitary crap"...I think you are a total poseur...you don't know *nix from your dick, you jerk-off.
I am a big fan of open-source OS and software. I often set up Linux solutions for friends and associates with old PCs and limited funds. I also have enough money to treat myself, so I know when to use closed-source solutions. If you are so incapable of rationally seeing the merits of both, and of seeing the differences between MS and Apple, then you are simply thick and blindly dogmatic. I never have to defend my purchases except on/. -- why do you care what I spend on myself? What part of that threatens you? Do I hold it over your head? I didn't think so.
And regarding performance, I am not sequencing the genome or running BLAST , but those sure seem like impressive real-world performance figures. But of course, you'll just assume they faked the whole genome sequencing thing -- you probably don't believe in evolution as well.
Thank you for your kind response regarding my post. As you can imagine, I receive so many positive responses regarding my posts, that I cannot possibly reply to them all. But once again, thank you for your kind remarks regarding my post.
Claims of product's performance are always subject to verification by consumers...As I said above, BMW claims to offer the "Ultimate Driving Machine"...now I can attest that is not true. Now this might be subjective, but it is still my claim. I can show 0-60 specs to support my claim, however, should I be able to bar them from advertising in this manner? Obviously not.
This is hardly snake oil Apple is selling...I have no interest in debating the specific merit of Apple's claims other than to say that if you cannot see this as absurd(and not in a conspiratorial way mind you), then you are fooling yourself. Apple supplied independant performance data that supports their claim. The blustery sales pitch is just that, a sales pitch. If every product was held to such standards as is this case, nothing would be advertised...not that I mind that option necessarily.
"DMCA will not allow you to circumvent this encryption (even for files you have bought)"
Other than burning them to CD and re-importing them as MP3 or non-protected AAC? While I won't argue that re-compressing lossy-compressed files leads to high-fidelity recordings, what more do you expect from a first-generation service? I know many people want the stars and the moon, but I don't think it is so outrageous to take baby steps...Besides there are still these places you can go and buy little round discs with full quality recordings on them. Sure you can't pick and choose individual songs, but you can pick what kind of encoding you'd like to utilize.
Thank you for your kind response regarding my post. As you can imagine, I receive so many positive responses regarding my posts, that I cannot possibly reply to them all. But once again, thank you for your kind remarks regarding my post.
Sincerely,
ErnstKompressor
P.S. I think that is the most impressive pumpkin I have ever seen:)
"People who like a product defend that product against wrongheaded criticism"..."If it were a product that they though sucked, they would agree that it sucked"...you're a quick one.
You may want to believe 'mac zealots' are delusional, but the fact is they simply believe in the superiority of their choices in products -- as does CNet if you read the whole article. When presented with perpetual heckling and FUD, they are bound to reply with corrections and defenses. Maybe if non-Apple users would shut the fuck up about things they don't know about, there would be less zealous mac users around here, but until then, I think we will always have to listen to both sides slug it out.
Also, why does criticism of Mac users always devolve into name-calling matches? "inferiority complex"? I'll never argue the "price perception" issue, but I don't really think other arguments have legs...
Might be exactly what you are looking for...but I would personally get a new 10 gig at least -- the new design and extra features make it more worthwhile -- besides, who couldn't use an extra firewire hard drive for back-ups and portability?
Thank you for your kind response regarding my post. As you can imagine, I receive so many positive responses regarding my posts, that I cannot possibly reply to them all. But once again, thank you for your kind remarks regarding my post.
"You have to remember, Apple traditionally markets themselves to people who don't know much about computers."
I have never understood the logical assumption that gets to that thought...Apple might make the things we need to do on computers simpler, but that does not therefore mean the users of Apple computers are simple themselves...please no trolls...my point is that simplifying the complex things is generally a 'good thing'. There is no point in doing things the hard way just for sake of doing them the hard way -- and I don't mean new and different difficult things, but rather the previously charted territory-type things -- set-up, consistency of use, configuration of new hard and software...
I don't think Apple has ever targeted grandmas and newbies...I think they targeted people who wanted their computer to get out of the way when they want to get work done. I love that Linux exists. I would rather chew off my foot than use it on a day to day basis. I don't have a personal jihad against MS...I would rather chew off my foot than use any MS products on a day to day basis...Not for reasons of philosophy, but because I find their products to be consistenly troublesome. Also, I don't use spreadsheets and I don't work with.doc files(RTF baby:))
I just set up my grandfather(a writer & a very computer literate PC-guy for many years) on a new 17" powerbook -- ridding him of the laptops and towers he had that had always plagued him with problems -- if one of his printers wasn't working, then it was his Clie. If it wasn't his Clie, it was Windows itself. Thankfully I did not have to support his previous system -- that was the job of my PC-championing uncle. Needless to say, my G-father, after having watched me for years on my Macs, was floored at how well his new system worked -- an HP all-in-one unit that never worked properly, worked instantly...his screenwriting software was cross-platform and looked and worked better than ever. I set him up with Word(blech) and it too looked better and worked better than ever.
Again, I feel there is a difference between choosing a system that simplifies the commonly difficult things and one that keeps the commonly difficult things difficult...
Also, "Marketing" is most definitely the provenence of MS. While Apple may have 'saucier' marketing, MS absolutely relies on Marketing and spin to keep itself where it is. Why else would new users by percentage, choose MS products if they weren't presented as 'easier to use' -- Most Apple user I know are vastly more technically adept than the PC users I know -- if for no other reason than that there are so many PC users and they could not possibly all be savvy.
I agree Porsches are cool. While it is not a good example of market share, it is a good example of mindshare -- Ford owners don't usually criticize Porsche owners for driving Porsches -- I really don't want to equate Macs with Porsches BTW, it opens up a new can of worms -- Ford owners for the most part probably respect Porsche vehicles.
The point is, as a previous Porsche owner, I didn't buy mine because it was cool. I bought it because I felt it was the best car on the road for my needs/desires. There were cars that were more expensive and less expensive. Ones that were faster per dollar and slower per dollar. No one ever accused me of trying to be cool, or aligning myself with a cool brand.
More to the point, I think most Linux users are like Ford owners who have read about Saleen/Shelby models...have memorized the specs, but have never driven the car if you know what I mean. They like to align themselves with the Shelbys(the coders, the kernel hackers) but in fact couldn't tell you if Linux is monolithic or a microkernel...then they come here and start holy wars between people whose interests and passions are closer to each other than they are far.
It is as if it were designed for the newest AlPBs. No drivers even...just set it up in 'sys prefs' and assign the 3,4 and 5 buttons to expose...really sweet.
This has been gone over many times...Apple is not a monopoly in the way MS is. I don't have the energy to go into this right now, but needless to say, you are mistaken.
This is a sentiment I have never understood..."Apple is cool, so people only use Apple computers to be cool"...It almost defies logic...If Apple were "cool" why wouldn't they have more market share, or at least mindshare?...As a long time Apple user, I can say, anecdotally, that I have never once had a conversation with another Apple user regarding how much cooler our computers are than others.
People who choose to use Macs have always dealt with 'less' options...I don't see how being on the fringe is cool...If anything we have generally felt marginalized -- sure we have steeled our resolve with a belief that we get more done, or that we work more efficiently, but that really just helps to fortify our own conclusions...does that make us 'different'...I could care less...does being 'different' make us 'cool'? Again I could care less.
It always seems like it is the people who do not use Apple computers who have an obsession with being 'cool' or not. I myself, just continue to do my work on my Macs as I have done for many years now.
BTW, do you really think Apple users think they are 'cooler' than Linux user think themselves. If you cannot acknowledge that there are vastly more Linux poseurs out there than Apple poseurs, you are fooling yourself. I can support this simply by the fact that Mac users, as lame as you want to see them, by the lowest common denominator, at least run productivity/creativity apps most of the time. Most Linux wanabees just spend their time installing the latest release, do no coding, no produuctivity/creative app work, and then post AC drivel on/. spewing fictitious nonsense about a platform they know nothing about -- and I'm not talking about Apple either...
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that we all were 'self-righteous YABW's'...but anyway...
That's some way of showing no "ill will"...
Regarding your hope that I not connect with any online source...what a ridiculous idea...I hope I can clarify -- I believe in the right for an artist to be compensated for her work. Crucify me...
'Sharing' in today's terms is not really what we term sharing from oh, say 1970. I know it is an unpopular view, but I believe it is accurate. Programs such as this behave like 'corporate veil' defenses..."I just want to share the music with a couple of friends..." really means, "I just want to release the music into the wild without the copyright holders consent..."
Now, I have said it before, I believe most musicians should make their money touring, etc... however, I don't believe that civil disobedience in this case is the practice of consuming copyright content and not compensating those who legally should be compensated...If you don't like the practices of the RIAA, the Record companies and the Artists who sell their rights to said companies, don't listen to the music represented by them. That means don't be two-faced and download the music you enjoy, pretending you are doing something radical or meaningful by doing so...you are not, you are stealing...
p.s. While I wish you no ill, Jesus is Santa Claus...HAND...
I was hurriedly 'opine-ing' as my wife was giving me the 'It's time to go look'...Thanks for looking out ;)...
...sharing anything with 15 people is wrong...now 'wrong' is a loaded word, I agree, but as I said, this 'feature' existed in iTunes originally, the ability to stream to a limited group of friends...this was removed because programs like iTunesDL broke the agreed upon trust, and allowed people to download the music being broadcast -- not fair...
So, yes, I do think personally you should be able to 'play' your music for a group of friends/co-workers, but that is not what this program is really about...
Granted, we have all gotten away with 'sharing' music with friends and co-workers over the years, but realize that the scale and nature of 'sharing' is vastly different today for most people...mind you, I don't care, I am not saying this from a high moral ground, I am simply stating the facts and I don't believe the way to change some laws you do not like is to be unlawful...vote differently, participate in your country's IP dialog, but don't be un-informed.
Filesharing of copyrighted material, in most cases is wrong...end of story...
Sure, limited swapping of music amongst friends (mix tapes, party mixes) is absolutely 'fair use', no question, but no one believes programs like this or iTunesDL have any other use than the wholesale theft of music that the user has not payed for...
I would make one important exception -- something that we had, but lost due to just this type of wrongheaded thinking -- sharing your own music with yourself remotely...iTunes had this originally and it was removed because of abuse...so you already fucked it up for us...
That is kinda what I was aiming at...Something like SPEC2000, but free/open source(a good cross-platform capable suite) or like XBench for OS X(already free, but not cross platfrom). Both types of testing progs seem to give well-rounded complex test results.
I guess the meat of the question regards the dispute over using different compilers in relation to comparative testing...With the recent G5 debate focusing on the fairly noted use of GCC on both platforms instead of an intel-specific compiler, leading to lower SPEC scores for the Dell systems tested, I wonder how such discrepancies could be avoided in the pursuit of fairer/leveled testing scenarios...
I'm not debating the veracity of the actual circumstances of Lynch's situation...I was simply commending the individual who put an end to the beginning of a tasteless thread. I agree the Bush regime is out of control, but that is irrelevant to the lack of humor regarding rape.
Sorry for the confusion...
\Loud Round Of Applause\...
What an amazing variety of people skulk about these parts. Me thinks a number of "/.-ers" could use a good ass-raping...The humor in it escapes me...
I now realize you are a total wanker...do you even comprehend the nature of my post?
/. -- why do you care what I spend on myself? What part of that threatens you? Do I hold it over your head? I didn't think so.
I am not debating the claims of performance, I am commenting on the ridiculous nature of British advertising oversight. If you could get that horse dick you call open/free whatever-it-is-you-champion, out of your ass you fucking worthless twat, maybe you could think straight instead of endlessly spouting off your fucking dribble.
Your ideas regarding 'propreietary vs. open' anything are meaningless in the face of your attempts to defend them. You have never once supported your choices with anything other than reactionary, "at least it's not expensive MS/Apple propreitary crap"...I think you are a total poseur...you don't know *nix from your dick, you jerk-off.
I am a big fan of open-source OS and software. I often set up Linux solutions for friends and associates with old PCs and limited funds. I also have enough money to treat myself, so I know when to use closed-source solutions. If you are so incapable of rationally seeing the merits of both, and of seeing the differences between MS and Apple, then you are simply thick and blindly dogmatic. I never have to defend my purchases except on
And regarding performance, I am not sequencing the genome or running BLAST , but those sure seem like impressive real-world performance figures. But of course, you'll just assume they faked the whole genome sequencing thing -- you probably don't believe in evolution as well.
Dear Anonymous Coward,
Thank you for your kind response regarding my post. As you can imagine, I receive so many positive responses regarding my posts, that I cannot possibly reply to them all. But once again, thank you for your kind remarks regarding my post.
Sincerely,
ErnstKompressor
Claims of product's performance are always subject to verification by consumers...As I said above, BMW claims to offer the "Ultimate Driving Machine"...now I can attest that is not true. Now this might be subjective, but it is still my claim. I can show 0-60 specs to support my claim, however, should I be able to bar them from advertising in this manner? Obviously not.
This is hardly snake oil Apple is selling...I have no interest in debating the specific merit of Apple's claims other than to say that if you cannot see this as absurd(and not in a conspiratorial way mind you), then you are fooling yourself. Apple supplied independant performance data that supports their claim. The blustery sales pitch is just that, a sales pitch. If every product was held to such standards as is this case, nothing would be advertised...not that I mind that option necessarily.
Eight complaints??? are they out of their minds? I believe that is why they call it advertising.
Sheesh..."The New G5 -- quite possibly, almost nearly, on a good day, the fastest desktop computer in some part of the world."
Wow...I am overcome by a desire to buy...can't stop looking at it...please someone...unplug my computer...
"DMCA will not allow you to circumvent this encryption (even for files you have bought)"
Other than burning them to CD and re-importing them as MP3 or non-protected AAC? While I won't argue that re-compressing lossy-compressed files leads to high-fidelity recordings, what more do you expect from a first-generation service? I know many people want the stars and the moon, but I don't think it is so outrageous to take baby steps...Besides there are still these places you can go and buy little round discs with full quality recordings on them. Sure you can't pick and choose individual songs, but you can pick what kind of encoding you'd like to utilize.
Dear Anonymous Coward,
:)
Thank you for your kind response regarding my post. As you can imagine, I receive so many positive responses regarding my posts, that I cannot possibly reply to them all. But once again, thank you for your kind remarks regarding my post.
Sincerely,
ErnstKompressor
P.S. I think that is the most impressive pumpkin I have ever seen
"People who like a product defend that product against wrongheaded criticism"..."If it were a product that they though sucked, they would agree that it sucked"...you're a quick one.
You may want to believe 'mac zealots' are delusional, but the fact is they simply believe in the superiority of their choices in products -- as does CNet if you read the whole article. When presented with perpetual heckling and FUD, they are bound to reply with corrections and defenses. Maybe if non-Apple users would shut the fuck up about things they don't know about, there would be less zealous mac users around here, but until then, I think we will always have to listen to both sides slug it out.
Also, why does criticism of Mac users always devolve into name-calling matches? "inferiority complex"? I'll never argue the "price perception" issue, but I don't really think other arguments have legs...
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Might be exactly what you are looking for...but I would personally get a new 10 gig at least -- the new design and extra features make it more worthwhile -- besides, who couldn't use an extra firewire hard drive for back-ups and portability?
Dear Anonymous Coward,
Thank you for your kind response regarding my post. As you can imagine, I receive so many positive responses regarding my posts, that I cannot possibly reply to them all. But once again, thank you for your kind remarks regarding my post.
Sincerely,
ErnstKompressor
"You have to remember, Apple traditionally markets themselves to people who don't know much about computers."
.doc files(RTF baby:))
I have never understood the logical assumption that gets to that thought...Apple might make the things we need to do on computers simpler, but that does not therefore mean the users of Apple computers are simple themselves...please no trolls...my point is that simplifying the complex things is generally a 'good thing'. There is no point in doing things the hard way just for sake of doing them the hard way -- and I don't mean new and different difficult things, but rather the previously charted territory-type things -- set-up, consistency of use, configuration of new hard and software...
I don't think Apple has ever targeted grandmas and newbies...I think they targeted people who wanted their computer to get out of the way when they want to get work done. I love that Linux exists. I would rather chew off my foot than use it on a day to day basis. I don't have a personal jihad against MS...I would rather chew off my foot than use any MS products on a day to day basis...Not for reasons of philosophy, but because I find their products to be consistenly troublesome. Also, I don't use spreadsheets and I don't work with
I just set up my grandfather(a writer & a very computer literate PC-guy for many years) on a new 17" powerbook -- ridding him of the laptops and towers he had that had always plagued him with problems -- if one of his printers wasn't working, then it was his Clie. If it wasn't his Clie, it was Windows itself. Thankfully I did not have to support his previous system -- that was the job of my PC-championing uncle. Needless to say, my G-father, after having watched me for years on my Macs, was floored at how well his new system worked -- an HP all-in-one unit that never worked properly, worked instantly...his screenwriting software was cross-platform and looked and worked better than ever. I set him up with Word(blech) and it too looked better and worked better than ever.
Again, I feel there is a difference between choosing a system that simplifies the commonly difficult things and one that keeps the commonly difficult things difficult...
Also, "Marketing" is most definitely the provenence of MS. While Apple may have 'saucier' marketing, MS absolutely relies on Marketing and spin to keep itself where it is. Why else would new users by percentage, choose MS products if they weren't presented as 'easier to use' -- Most Apple user I know are vastly more technically adept than the PC users I know -- if for no other reason than that there are so many PC users and they could not possibly all be savvy.
I agree Porsches are cool. While it is not a good example of market share, it is a good example of mindshare -- Ford owners don't usually criticize Porsche owners for driving Porsches -- I really don't want to equate Macs with Porsches BTW, it opens up a new can of worms -- Ford owners for the most part probably respect Porsche vehicles.
The point is, as a previous Porsche owner, I didn't buy mine because it was cool. I bought it because I felt it was the best car on the road for my needs/desires. There were cars that were more expensive and less expensive. Ones that were faster per dollar and slower per dollar. No one ever accused me of trying to be cool, or aligning myself with a cool brand.
More to the point, I think most Linux users are like Ford owners who have read about Saleen/Shelby models...have memorized the specs, but have never driven the car if you know what I mean. They like to align themselves with the Shelbys(the coders, the kernel hackers) but in fact couldn't tell you if Linux is monolithic or a microkernel...then they come here and start holy wars between people whose interests and passions are closer to each other than they are far.
P.S. thanks for the thoughtful response.
It is as if it were designed for the newest AlPBs. No drivers even...just set it up in 'sys prefs' and assign the 3,4 and 5 buttons to expose...really sweet.
This has been gone over many times...Apple is not a monopoly in the way MS is. I don't have the energy to go into this right now, but needless to say, you are mistaken.
This is a sentiment I have never understood..."Apple is cool, so people only use Apple computers to be cool"...It almost defies logic...If Apple were "cool" why wouldn't they have more market share, or at least mindshare?...As a long time Apple user, I can say, anecdotally, that I have never once had a conversation with another Apple user regarding how much cooler our computers are than others.
/. spewing fictitious nonsense about a platform they know nothing about -- and I'm not talking about Apple either...
People who choose to use Macs have always dealt with 'less' options...I don't see how being on the fringe is cool...If anything we have generally felt marginalized -- sure we have steeled our resolve with a belief that we get more done, or that we work more efficiently, but that really just helps to fortify our own conclusions...does that make us 'different'...I could care less...does being 'different' make us 'cool'? Again I could care less.
It always seems like it is the people who do not use Apple computers who have an obsession with being 'cool' or not. I myself, just continue to do my work on my Macs as I have done for many years now.
BTW, do you really think Apple users think they are 'cooler' than Linux user think themselves. If you cannot acknowledge that there are vastly more Linux poseurs out there than Apple poseurs, you are fooling yourself. I can support this simply by the fact that Mac users, as lame as you want to see them, by the lowest common denominator, at least run productivity/creativity apps most of the time. Most Linux wanabees just spend their time installing the latest release, do no coding, no produuctivity/creative app work, and then post AC drivel on
"timewarp"..."subsidize my private jew"?...
I don't want to know what you're doing with a private jew...I just hope you're treating him nicely...;)