I never wan't to listen to the radio and I never want to record voice notes...so...I guess the iPod is a perfect design for me, and obviously for hundreds of thousands of other similar individuals. On the other hand, I do use it as an extra hard drive, a contact manager/calendar as well as a VoodooPad/wiki notepad.
Just goes to show that designs can actually be perfect without you even knowing it.:)
I am sure there are plenty of batteries that would fit in an iPod and would last ten hours that Apple could have purchased of the shelf...yeah...and I bet if those batteries were replaceable, they would be available at every 7/11 near the checkout counter...
Bottom line, there is NOTHING wrong with Apple's iPod design...things break occasionally, batteries die when mistreated(bad discharge, over charging)...Surely there aren't more than 1% of the total sold iPods that have suffered such fates. I have had three so far(all still in the family) and know of a dozen others, only one of which needed repair in two years, and that was for a broken HD due to a run in with gravity and asphalt.
Mind you, I agree that you may think there are problems with the design, but in that case, build your own MP3 player.
The guy's anecdote is wrong? His father wasn't sucessful during those 'dark middle ages' when his Mac 'wasn't good'? His artist friend should arbitrarily change platforms to 'save' a couple hundred bucks(money lost after purchasing new software)?
I don't want anyone to switch to Macs -- trust me. Apple will be around a long, long time. They do not need to be the most ubiquitous platform -- If I never bought another computer, I could be happy with my last Apple laptop and my present software collection for a few decades - if not forever. Sure I'll fall behind the 'gaming world' somewhere around 'Doom 6' but I never said I wouldn't buy a new console...
Thank you for your kind response regarding my post. As you can imagine, I receive so many positive responses regarding my posts, that I cannot possibly reply to them all. But once again, thank you for your kind remarks regarding my post.
FACE!! SCRATCH!! You are so moded. You fucking loser. Worthless lemming robot. "Spoken like a true copycat pussy".
Suck my big dick you little pansy fag. "I would kick the shit out of you if I ever..."(R) Blah, Blah, Blah!
I win, you lose, no matter how many times you reply...Hah, hah, hah!
And it has nothing to do with my 'brand' of computer you wanabee...doh! You are and will always be a LOOOOOOOOSSEEEEEEEEEER. Live with it. Bitch.
P.S. Thanks for the reply. Come back soon with some lame response...oh, wait, I got it already -- "Apple fanboy...something, something...Teh ghey...Get a real computer...HA HA HA HA HA
Toshiba unit, no less. I don't see how anecdotal 'evidence' supported by a biased movie-rant is the basis for an assault on Apple's integrity. I have been an Apple user for decades, and have only had great experiences (except once, that damn 1400c, which while being a peice of crap, was still replaced immediately with an alternate 3400c, IIRC).
Again, It's anecdotal, but I could just as easily go make some lame "Underground, rebelious" movie about how great my experiences have been, but I'm a little busier than those worthless college dweebs with too much time on their hands and too much of their parents money...
Shit breaks, grow up. Probably mistreated the thing anyways and are trying to get something for nothing...
You may not like the **AA's, but I don't see why, unless you are a fan of the artists they represent, in which case they are correct. If you do not listen to music whose owners are represented by the RIAA, then you are not a target of their persecution. Otherwise, you are a cheap, whinning git who likes Britney Spears but can't bring themselves to admit it. let alone support the 'artists'(a loose term) who provide you your listening enjoyment...blech...
The service iTMS provides is specialized. It is without a doubt best-of-breed amongst it's competition. Your 'cute math' is irrelevant (not to mention that most albums on iTMS top out at $9.99).
The alternative is obviously exactly what you say -- go to the store/go to Amazon. Buy entire CD (including tracks you don't want). Convert CD to alternate format (ideally unprotected AAC for quality/efficiency). Factor in gas or shipping and your time required to convert your music, plus your having paid for music you don't want and you probably end up on the losing side of the equation.
to this compromise as it occured on a wednesday of an odd month, and was devised by a malicious user who never even worked at Apple, in the hopes that this would prod Debian users to cross-grade to 10.3...and then buy the PDA that Apple are developing with the help of a homeless guy who has been dumpster diving...and they are not even going to support the 'compromise' on anything before 10.4...CONSPIRACY!!!
while your points have merit, the illegal act of distributing copywritten material is NOT an act of civil disobedience, just as shoplifting is not civil disobedience in response to the high price of impulse-buy items. If you want to send a message to the copyright holders, DON'T LISTEN TO ARTISTS WHO HAVE SOLD THE RIGHTS TO THEIR MUSIC TO LABELS AND DISTRIBUTORS!!!
was the skill one had to learn, not pre-disposing kids to using MS software. The greatest fallacy I hear is how different 'other' OS's are from Windows...what a crock. Kids would be better served if they were taught word processing and spreadsheet skills independant of branding their skill-set as being profecient in 'MS Office.'
Hell, the majority of working-age adults cut their teeth on Apple II's, and they seemed to transition to Windows units without much trouble, so I think the 'wisdom' of teaching kids to use Windows is really just marketing spin and 'lock-in tactics.
Thank you for your kind response regarding my post. As you can imagine, I receive so many positive responses regarding my posts, that I cannot possibly reply to them all. But once again, thank you for your kind remarks regarding my post.
I heard from a homeless guy on the street who said he was dumpster diving near the Apple campus, where he overheard Jobs talking loudly on a cell phone about some "big plan to integrate Netflix into 10.4 thereby completing their nefarious conspiracy to force users to upgrade to the next revision of OS X...We'll trick those bastards yet..."
Needless to say, Jobs noticed the guy eavesdropping, and immediately hired him to work on an up-and-coming Apple branded PDA/cell phone...
A girl doing it with a horse...unless your dad was pretty whacked out. I followed a link in someones sig once...Holy crap!...
Now, don't get me wrong. If it's not illegal in your state, and your of legal age, I say enjoy what you like;), but the nature of porn we had access to before the net is vastly different than what kids today could happen upon. Rape sites, murder sites, beastiality, etc... again, if it's simulated or legal, and your an adult, enjoy your fantasies, but realize that what required a lot of hunting through adult video stores before is now one click away.
"I've been holding off on getting a new iPod for exactly the reason that Apple only cares about the first sale"
I find this to be so opposite the experience of myself and a number of aquaintances, not that that negates your experience...My brother-in-law had problems a few months deep with his 2nd gen iPod and Apple replaced the unit two times, until he had one that worked well, no charge. I have had three iPods and not one of them has been problematic. But like I said, anecdotal evidence at best.
Seriously, Apple made the most recent iPods cross-platform capable out of the box -- I'd call that an improvement over the earlier models...what do you want them to do, go back in time and implant old iPods with the ASICs that will allow them to accept firmware flashing that will allow them to be cross-platform capable?
I hardly think this ranks as a grand conspiritorial strategy on Apple's part.
P.S. Getting rid of people who call other people 'zealots' would really save everyone a lot of time in the future...
I don't want to immediately have this devolve into a shouting match so I will try to systematicaly address your points because I am not a self-righteous person and would like to understand your position, as it has never been persuasively explained to me...maybe you don't care, but anyways
People are not at the mercy of corporations...you are free to not participate, to not support those who choose to participate, eg. artists who don't 'sell out' -- they will not have sold their rights to their works, and you will never infringe upon anyone's rights in sharing/enjoying their labors and consequently you will never be in a position to be persecuted(reasonably) for your activities. Think indy rock/underground/local punk scene/etc...To think otherwise is unneccesarily defeatist/alarmist.
55MPH -- Should we have no speed limits? I say that facetiously, obviously...surely there are times where we need 25MPH zones, eg. around schools, on narrow roads. Conversely, while I agree that 55MPH might be ten or twenty miles slower than what today might seem reasonable, I see the merit in having some law regarding speed and safety. Also, having known a number of Police over the years, I know that They are generally forgiving within that reasonable range ( +10-15 MPH) -- similarly, no one is going after reasonable fair use -- generally, it is egregious 'sharers' who are targeted for fines and litigation.
Copying your buddy's CD -- I agree, see above...Historically, such use while not technically 'legal' was tolerated. I would NOT call it stealing, I am reasonable, and have, like you copied the occasional CD and vice-versa. Today, that is not the same as 'file-sharing' -- the wholesale free-distribution of content that is not paid for.
As a quick side note, I am a vocal supporter of legalizing low-fidelity (aka radio quality or
Artists getting hurt -- Brittany, Phil, Beoncey, Puff...If you are not the one downloading their works then you are not hurting them...but what are you downloading? -- whose labor are you enjoying for free? They are the artists whose work you enjoy and yet you actively choose to harm them...with fans like you who needs enemies? At least the labels and RIAA pretend to pay them for their work (occasionally they do get a check or two).
Me being a windbag -- I guess...I am writing this reply, so you are probably right -- your reasons are not right though...I do not pretend to hold the high ground -- I have the artists (many of whom I know) best interests in mind -- I want to make sure they are compensated for their work TODAY...I also believe in changing the system, but boy, todays artists sure make good cannon foder for most other folks in this war for tomorrow...
You are the bullshiter...you simply want something for nothing and provide no improved model or means for artists to make a living. You are the one who's views should be ignored.
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I never wan't to listen to the radio and I never want to record voice notes...so...I guess the iPod is a perfect design for me, and obviously for hundreds of thousands of other similar individuals. On the other hand, I do use it as an extra hard drive, a contact manager/calendar as well as a VoodooPad/wiki notepad.
:)
Just goes to show that designs can actually be perfect without you even knowing it.
"Apple should have sourced the batteries..."
I am sure there are plenty of batteries that would fit in an iPod and would last ten hours that Apple could have purchased of the shelf...yeah...and I bet if those batteries were replaceable, they would be available at every 7/11 near the checkout counter...
Bottom line, there is NOTHING wrong with Apple's iPod design...things break occasionally, batteries die when mistreated(bad discharge, over charging)...Surely there aren't more than 1% of the total sold iPods that have suffered such fates. I have had three so far(all still in the family) and know of a dozen others, only one of which needed repair in two years, and that was for a broken HD due to a run in with gravity and asphalt.
Mind you, I agree that you may think there are problems with the design, but in that case, build your own MP3 player.
The guy's anecdote is wrong? His father wasn't sucessful during those 'dark middle ages' when his Mac 'wasn't good'? His artist friend should arbitrarily change platforms to 'save' a couple hundred bucks(money lost after purchasing new software)?
I don't want anyone to switch to Macs -- trust me. Apple will be around a long, long time. They do not need to be the most ubiquitous platform -- If I never bought another computer, I could be happy with my last Apple laptop and my present software collection for a few decades - if not forever. Sure I'll fall behind the 'gaming world' somewhere around 'Doom 6' but I never said I wouldn't buy a new console...
Dear Anonymous Coward,
Thank you for your kind response regarding my post. As you can imagine, I receive so many positive responses regarding my posts, that I cannot possibly reply to them all. But once again, thank you for your kind remarks regarding my post.
Sincerely,
ErnstKompressor
FACE!! SCRATCH!! You are so moded. You fucking loser. Worthless lemming robot. "Spoken like a true copycat pussy".
Suck my big dick you little pansy fag. "I would kick the shit out of you if I ever..."(R) Blah, Blah, Blah!
I win, you lose, no matter how many times you reply...Hah, hah, hah!
And it has nothing to do with my 'brand' of computer you wanabee...doh! You are and will always be a LOOOOOOOOSSEEEEEEEEEER. Live with it. Bitch.
P.S. Thanks for the reply. Come back soon with some lame response...oh, wait, I got it already -- "Apple fanboy...something, something...Teh ghey...Get a real computer...HA HA HA HA HA
...or do they moan when Jobs fucks'em in the ass.
...Buy a PC and get used to getting it in the ass?...no...thank...you...
Buy a PC and get used to it...
Toshiba unit, no less. I don't see how anecdotal 'evidence' supported by a biased movie-rant is the basis for an assault on Apple's integrity. I have been an Apple user for decades, and have only had great experiences (except once, that damn 1400c, which while being a peice of crap, was still replaced immediately with an alternate 3400c, IIRC).
Again, It's anecdotal, but I could just as easily go make some lame "Underground, rebelious" movie about how great my experiences have been, but I'm a little busier than those worthless college dweebs with too much time on their hands and too much of their parents money...
Shit breaks, grow up. Probably mistreated the thing anyways and are trying to get something for nothing...
but not pay for it...
You may not like the **AA's, but I don't see why, unless you are a fan of the artists they represent, in which case they are correct. If you do not listen to music whose owners are represented by the RIAA, then you are not a target of their persecution. Otherwise, you are a cheap, whinning git who likes Britney Spears but can't bring themselves to admit it. let alone support the 'artists'(a loose term) who provide you your listening enjoyment...blech...
The service iTMS provides is specialized. It is without a doubt best-of-breed amongst it's competition. Your 'cute math' is irrelevant (not to mention that most albums on iTMS top out at $9.99).
The alternative is obviously exactly what you say -- go to the store/go to Amazon. Buy entire CD (including tracks you don't want). Convert CD to alternate format (ideally unprotected AAC for quality/efficiency). Factor in gas or shipping and your time required to convert your music, plus your having paid for music you don't want and you probably end up on the losing side of the equation.
Mod parent up...Mod parent up...
I hope...
MP3.com's iPod...
I guess it was a bad case of 'peer-to-peer goggles'...
Answer: Nothing, cause they got no pockets...
to this compromise as it occured on a wednesday of an odd month, and was devised by a malicious user who never even worked at Apple, in the hopes that this would prod Debian users to cross-grade to 10.3...and then buy the PDA that Apple are developing with the help of a homeless guy who has been dumpster diving...and they are not even going to support the 'compromise' on anything before 10.4...CONSPIRACY!!!
;)
or so says CNet
Sorry...
while your points have merit, the illegal act of distributing copywritten material is NOT an act of civil disobedience, just as shoplifting is not civil disobedience in response to the high price of impulse-buy items. If you want to send a message to the copyright holders, DON'T LISTEN TO ARTISTS WHO HAVE SOLD THE RIGHTS TO THEIR MUSIC TO LABELS AND DISTRIBUTORS!!!
was the skill one had to learn, not pre-disposing kids to using MS software. The greatest fallacy I hear is how different 'other' OS's are from Windows...what a crock. Kids would be better served if they were taught word processing and spreadsheet skills independant of branding their skill-set as being profecient in 'MS Office.'
Hell, the majority of working-age adults cut their teeth on Apple II's, and they seemed to transition to Windows units without much trouble, so I think the 'wisdom' of teaching kids to use Windows is really just marketing spin and 'lock-in tactics.
Go back to watching Jerry Springer you jackass.
p.s. You are reading what I wrote.
Dear Anonymous Coward,
Thank you for your kind response regarding my post. As you can imagine, I receive so many positive responses regarding my posts, that I cannot possibly reply to them all. But once again, thank you for your kind remarks regarding my post.
Sincerely,
ErnstKompressor
I heard from a homeless guy on the street who said he was dumpster diving near the Apple campus, where he overheard Jobs talking loudly on a cell phone about some "big plan to integrate Netflix into 10.4 thereby completing their nefarious conspiracy to force users to upgrade to the next revision of OS X...We'll trick those bastards yet..."
Needless to say, Jobs noticed the guy eavesdropping, and immediately hired him to work on an up-and-coming Apple branded PDA/cell phone...
A girl doing it with a horse...unless your dad was pretty whacked out. I followed a link in someones sig once...Holy crap!...
;), but the nature of porn we had access to before the net is vastly different than what kids today could happen upon. Rape sites, murder sites, beastiality, etc... again, if it's simulated or legal, and your an adult, enjoy your fantasies, but realize that what required a lot of hunting through adult video stores before is now one click away.
Now, don't get me wrong. If it's not illegal in your state, and your of legal age, I say enjoy what you like
"I've been holding off on getting a new iPod for exactly the reason that Apple only cares about the first sale"
I find this to be so opposite the experience of myself and a number of aquaintances, not that that negates your experience...My brother-in-law had problems a few months deep with his 2nd gen iPod and Apple replaced the unit two times, until he had one that worked well, no charge. I have had three iPods and not one of them has been problematic. But like I said, anecdotal evidence at best.
...improve them after four years...
Seriously, Apple made the most recent iPods cross-platform capable out of the box -- I'd call that an improvement over the earlier models...what do you want them to do, go back in time and implant old iPods with the ASICs that will allow them to accept firmware flashing that will allow them to be cross-platform capable?
I hardly think this ranks as a grand conspiritorial strategy on Apple's part.
P.S. Getting rid of people who call other people 'zealots' would really save everyone a lot of time in the future...
Gen 1 -- Mac only
Gen 2 -- specific Mac and PC versions
Gen 3 -- Both types of support with included USB2 adaptor
I don't want to immediately have this devolve into a shouting match so I will try to systematicaly address your points because I am not a self-righteous person and would like to understand your position, as it has never been persuasively explained to me...maybe you don't care, but anyways
People are not at the mercy of corporations...you are free to not participate, to not support those who choose to participate, eg. artists who don't 'sell out' -- they will not have sold their rights to their works, and you will never infringe upon anyone's rights in sharing/enjoying their labors and consequently you will never be in a position to be persecuted(reasonably) for your activities. Think indy rock/underground/local punk scene/etc...To think otherwise is unneccesarily defeatist/alarmist.
55MPH -- Should we have no speed limits? I say that facetiously, obviously...surely there are times where we need 25MPH zones, eg. around schools, on narrow roads. Conversely, while I agree that 55MPH might be ten or twenty miles slower than what today might seem reasonable, I see the merit in having some law regarding speed and safety. Also, having known a number of Police over the years, I know that They are generally forgiving within that reasonable range ( +10-15 MPH) -- similarly, no one is going after reasonable fair use -- generally, it is egregious 'sharers' who are targeted for fines and litigation.
Copying your buddy's CD -- I agree, see above...Historically, such use while not technically 'legal' was tolerated. I would NOT call it stealing, I am reasonable, and have, like you copied the occasional CD and vice-versa. Today, that is not the same as 'file-sharing' -- the wholesale free-distribution of content that is not paid for.
As a quick side note, I am a vocal supporter of legalizing low-fidelity (aka radio quality or
Artists getting hurt -- Brittany, Phil, Beoncey, Puff...If you are not the one downloading their works then you are not hurting them...but what are you downloading? -- whose labor are you enjoying for free? They are the artists whose work you enjoy and yet you actively choose to harm them...with fans like you who needs enemies? At least the labels and RIAA pretend to pay them for their work (occasionally they do get a check or two).
Me being a windbag -- I guess...I am writing this reply, so you are probably right -- your reasons are not right though...I do not pretend to hold the high ground -- I have the artists (many of whom I know) best interests in mind -- I want to make sure they are compensated for their work TODAY...I also believe in changing the system, but boy, todays artists sure make good cannon foder for most other folks in this war for tomorrow...
You are the bullshiter...you simply want something for nothing and provide no improved model or means for artists to make a living. You are the one who's views should be ignored.
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