Looking at their ftp site (ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/SuSE-Linux/), there is an ISO of apparently a 6.0 evaluation. I'm not sure what the evaluation bit means, but maybe they'll replace it with 6.1 soon...
It's been a while since I looked through the CODA pages, but there was something about defining a cache size on the client for disconnected use. Is there anything to specify what directory to backup to the cache, or does it just put the last 500mb or whatever in there?
Heh, volunteers making a Linux screen saver. I wonder if they'd actually had anyone sign up for it?
Obviously though, Algore's trying for our vote which is interesting. Politicians never go for the geek vote, just mainstream, generalized crap. Not that I would vote for him or anything.
Intel keeps the market satisfied by charging several grand for processors. AMD's become what it is today for having nice, lower cost CPUs. Naturally, when a cheaper product comes into a market monopolized by an expensive product, they have much more demand. It's nice to see that AMD isn't succombing to this and keeps their new CPUs at $2-300.
By the way, I caught on AMD's web page that they introduced a 475 Mhz K6-2 (why it wasn't a K6-3, I don't know).
It probably wouldn't be too hard to make up a little app that uses the number pad as someone else mentioned. But, can an X program send keyboard signals to another app? Say you have this app running, type the strokes on the number pad, than have it send the letters to a vt window.
At work recently someone bought a writing tablet (Crosspad I believe was it's name) that does handwriting OCR. It's just a legal paper sized tablet on a platform, and you just take it to meetings or whatever and write away. Then when you get back to your computer, hook it into the serial port and it uploads & OCRs the handwriting.
Anyway, has anyone used these sort of things much? Do they work reasonably well with decent handwriting. This guy's biggest problem was his horrible handwriting. I print mostly, so it shouldn't be that hard for it to recognize, but I want opinions before I spring a few hundred for one. Of course, Linux support would be nice, but I'd imagine not many developers have one to test and write the drivers for it.
I remember that Cool Site of the Year award was going pretty crazily. I checked it when it first appeared on Slashdot, and it was up to like $500. By about 4:00pm it was over $10,000. I wonder what it finally went for and whether they actually paid money for it.
It's like Alan Cox said in the Salon article, they hope to be able to say something like, "NT beats Linux by 600x with aid from Linus Torvalds himself!!" conveniently not mentioning that it was limited access, not full information, and Linus only able to give guesses and suggestions.
I haven't even gotten around to building up an OpenLinux 2.2 box yet, and now this. Maybe I'll just wait two or three weeks for venders to make CDs before getting i. Or if I'm bored at work, I could download...
Half-Life has been ported to Linux?? Many a day has been spent wandering that game, and now with TFC I can barely tear myself away from my computer. Or did you just mean "should be ported" to Linux?
I bought a year-old copy of ViaVoice for like $10 or $15 recently. It was able to handle natural speech just fine. You may be thinking of an earlier product line, VoiceType maybe.
But any voice recognition program for Linux should come with some sort of SDK so we can then make macros/scripts to interface with any program. If a company provides us with a decent shell, I'll be more than willing to help in and develop some of these interfaces.
Is there any sort of programmable IR devices that can control TV/Stereo/etc remote controls? There just never is any of those "universal" remotes that can do all my devices. Either they handle the VCR, but not the TV, etc. If there was some device (and programming API) for Linux, we could just add new devices easily. Are there any?
Get Half Life. The best 3d first person single player missions I've seen, beautiful scenery, and with Team Fortress Classic, excellent multiplayer play. Or Tribes, that was a fun multiplayer only game, and didn't cause as much, $29.95 or so maybe.
Q3 looks nice and all, but it ain't no Half Life.:)
Aww, not worth it to convert VHS tapes to VCD? This thread got me to thinking about that. What about live broadcast recording, then, to bypass VHS's problems?
Do VCD recorders let you have multiple files (perhaps on multiple tracks, or have it combine them all on the fly), or do you have to compile the mpeg as one huge file beforehand?
Is it just that some DVDs won't play with CDRs? I considered making some VCDs with CDR discs, but I wondered about this. I put an audio CDR in the dvd player, and it didn't recognize it at all. Am I hopeless that, short of buying another DVD player? And this was with a tv type dvd player, not a dvd-rom.
As the guy above said, a quad-cpu machine isn't terribly high end, but more than the average desktop certainly.
But with regards to the study, wouldn't it have been more truthful to tune the Linux box appropriately? Then if the results showed that NT was better, a point could be made that Linux needs more work in these areas. I really believe people would accept that as honest criticism (again, IF the results showed that NT was faster, I have my doubts that would happen:)).
Mindcraft obviously didn't make much of an effort in tuning the box (ie hire a decent Linux admin), posted a message to a couple newsgroups (lacking sufficient details, and not responding when someone requested more details), one call to RedHat (which was directed to the wrong group as ESR stated). And yet, they build an entire study around these points, making claims that Linux support is bad and all. For these reasons they were blasted, not for saying NT is better than Linux (as some people I've talked to think is the motive for Linux people's outrage).
With the recent report on the untuned NT vs Linux with Oracle server, many of the marks were 20 times faster on Linux than NT. So, I got to wondering, wouldn't it be funny if someone was able to achieve similar/better scores in a Linux system with a less powerful machine (how many of us have quad xeons?). If it were shown that a dual-p2 or something running Linux was just as good as their xeon beefed up NT box, that would make quite the statement, both on the study and on NT.
In the Performance Testing section on their web page, second paragraph they say flat out:
"...we work with you to define test goals. Then we put together the necessary tools and do the testing. We report the results back to you in a form that satisfies the test goals."
Since they say Microsoft sponsored the test, we can replace "you" with "Microsoft." So they worked with MS to define the test goals (NT is 2 or more times better than Linux). Then they put together the tools to do that, hacking the registry and all to beef NT up, slowing Linux apache/samba servers. And finally, report the results back in a form that satisfies the test goals, lo and behold NT is 2-3 time faster than Linux. Such a surprise, right?
For what it's worth, Caldera's OpenLinux 2.2 installer will be released under the GPL in a month or two according to Caldera folks at thier Comdex booth. That will certainly give this (and similar) projects a good start at some code.
And to those that say a text mode one should be done first, it's easy to run just a VGA16 X server to do the installer. I'm not sure how OL2.2 does it, but they have a nice, graphical program doing all the installation. It's prettier to look at, but not critical. Either mode is fine by me. The actual function is more important than the look.
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The problem with them is politics get in the way.:)
US today is so flakey, it's depressing. Everyone gives the highest priorities to emotions (like our #1 problem as a country, being offended -- scarey, huh?) and making sure oneself is not to blame for anything. Things like tobacco rise up, people feel the companies should be punished, despite the fact that warning have been around for ages, and people decide to go to the gas station, buy a pack, light up, etc. What'll happen if you go to politicians? Most likely they'd nod their head when you're there and forget about it the moment you leave. All it would take is one person crying on TV that simple-key encryption is vital or else your kids will be killed in a high school. There is no logic, just cry and make people feel for ya.:)
There are certain kinds of people that hate learning thing too new/different on their computers. Where I work, they tend to be older, and just want to live through the day so they can retire soon.
Certainly it's possible to learn, just that many people in corporations are stubborn about it. Every effort to make them that much more comfortable during a transition is appreciated.
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Looking at their ftp site (ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/SuSE-Linux/), there is an ISO of apparently a 6.0 evaluation. I'm not sure what the evaluation bit means, but maybe they'll replace it with 6.1 soon...
I'm picturing an eBay for kidnappers.
It's been a while since I looked through the CODA pages, but there was something about defining a cache size on the client for disconnected use. Is there anything to specify what directory to backup to the cache, or does it just put the last 500mb or whatever in there?
I've seen a few of the RH6 ISOs around, are they official RedHat images, bootable and all, or just all the files slapped together for convenience?
Heh, volunteers making a Linux screen saver. I wonder if they'd actually had anyone sign up for it?
Obviously though, Algore's trying for our vote which is interesting. Politicians never go for the geek vote, just mainstream, generalized crap. Not that I would vote for him or anything.
Intel keeps the market satisfied by charging several grand for processors. AMD's become what it is today for having nice, lower cost CPUs. Naturally, when a cheaper product comes into a market monopolized by an expensive product, they have much more demand. It's nice to see that AMD isn't succombing to this and keeps their new CPUs at $2-300.
By the way, I caught on AMD's web page that they introduced a 475 Mhz K6-2 (why it wasn't a K6-3, I don't know).
It probably wouldn't be too hard to make up a little app that uses the number pad as someone else mentioned. But, can an X program send keyboard signals to another app? Say you have this app running, type the strokes on the number pad, than have it send the letters to a vt window.
At work recently someone bought a writing tablet (Crosspad I believe was it's name) that does handwriting OCR. It's just a legal paper sized tablet on a platform, and you just take it to meetings or whatever and write away. Then when you get back to your computer, hook it into the serial port and it uploads & OCRs the handwriting.
Anyway, has anyone used these sort of things much? Do they work reasonably well with decent handwriting. This guy's biggest problem was his horrible handwriting. I print mostly, so it shouldn't be that hard for it to recognize, but I want opinions before I spring a few hundred for one. Of course, Linux support would be nice, but I'd imagine not many developers have one to test and write the drivers for it.
Yeah, the hardest thing with the applet was keeping the mouse in the center, and not accidentally moving into one of the zones...
I remember that Cool Site of the Year award was going pretty crazily. I checked it when it first appeared on Slashdot, and it was up to like $500. By about 4:00pm it was over $10,000. I wonder what it finally went for and whether they actually paid money for it.
It's like Alan Cox said in the Salon article, they hope to be able to say something like, "NT beats Linux by 600x with aid from Linus Torvalds himself!!" conveniently not mentioning that it was limited access, not full information, and Linus only able to give guesses and suggestions.
I haven't even gotten around to building up an OpenLinux 2.2 box yet, and now this. Maybe I'll just wait two or three weeks for venders to make CDs before getting i. Or if I'm bored at work, I could download...
Sweet, definately. Hopefully it'll be a nice long beta period too :).
Half-Life has been ported to Linux?? Many a day has been spent wandering that game, and now with TFC I can barely tear myself away from my computer. Or did you just mean "should be ported" to Linux?
I bought a year-old copy of ViaVoice for like $10 or $15 recently. It was able to handle natural speech just fine. You may be thinking of an earlier product line, VoiceType maybe.
But any voice recognition program for Linux should come with some sort of SDK so we can then make macros/scripts to interface with any program. If a company provides us with a decent shell, I'll be more than willing to help in and develop some of these interfaces.
Is there any sort of programmable IR devices that can control TV/Stereo/etc remote controls? There just never is any of those "universal" remotes that can do all my devices. Either they handle the VCR, but not the TV, etc. If there was some device (and programming API) for Linux, we could just add new devices easily. Are there any?
Get Half Life. The best 3d first person single player missions I've seen, beautiful scenery, and with Team Fortress Classic, excellent multiplayer play. Or Tribes, that was a fun multiplayer only game, and didn't cause as much, $29.95 or so maybe.
:)
Q3 looks nice and all, but it ain't no Half Life.
Aww, not worth it to convert VHS tapes to VCD? This thread got me to thinking about that. What about live broadcast recording, then, to bypass VHS's problems?
Do VCD recorders let you have multiple files (perhaps on multiple tracks, or have it combine them all on the fly), or do you have to compile the mpeg as one huge file beforehand?
Is it just that some DVDs won't play with CDRs? I considered making some VCDs with CDR discs, but I wondered about this. I put an audio CDR in the dvd player, and it didn't recognize it at all. Am I hopeless that, short of buying another DVD player? And this was with a tv type dvd player, not a dvd-rom.
As the guy above said, a quad-cpu machine isn't terribly high end, but more than the average desktop certainly.
:)).
But with regards to the study, wouldn't it have been more truthful to tune the Linux box appropriately? Then if the results showed that NT was better, a point could be made that Linux needs more work in these areas. I really believe people would accept that as honest criticism (again, IF the results showed that NT was faster, I have my doubts that would happen
Mindcraft obviously didn't make much of an effort in tuning the box (ie hire a decent Linux admin), posted a message to a couple newsgroups (lacking sufficient details, and not responding when someone requested more details), one call to RedHat (which was directed to the wrong group as ESR stated). And yet, they build an entire study around these points, making claims that Linux support is bad and all. For these reasons they were blasted, not for saying NT is better than Linux (as some people I've talked to think is the motive for Linux people's outrage).
With the recent report on the untuned NT vs Linux with Oracle server, many of the marks were 20 times faster on Linux than NT. So, I got to wondering, wouldn't it be funny if someone was able to achieve similar/better scores in a Linux system with a less powerful machine (how many of us have quad xeons?). If it were shown that a dual-p2 or something running Linux was just as good as their xeon beefed up NT box, that would make quite the statement, both on the study and on NT.
In the Performance Testing section on their web page, second paragraph they say flat out:
"...we work with you to define test goals. Then we put together the necessary tools and do the testing. We report the results back to you in a form that satisfies the test goals."
Since they say Microsoft sponsored the test, we can replace "you" with "Microsoft." So they worked with MS to define the test goals (NT is 2 or more times better than Linux). Then they put together the tools to do that, hacking the registry and all to beef NT up, slowing Linux apache/samba servers. And finally, report the results back in a form that satisfies the test goals, lo and behold NT is 2-3 time faster than Linux. Such a surprise, right?
For what it's worth, Caldera's OpenLinux 2.2 installer will be released under the GPL in a month or two according to Caldera folks at thier Comdex booth. That will certainly give this (and similar) projects a good start at some code.
And to those that say a text mode one should be done first, it's easy to run just a VGA16 X server to do the installer. I'm not sure how OL2.2 does it, but they have a nice, graphical program doing all the installation. It's prettier to look at, but not critical. Either mode is fine by me. The actual function is more important than the look.
The problem with them is politics get in the way. :)
:)
US today is so flakey, it's depressing. Everyone gives the highest priorities to emotions (like our #1 problem as a country, being offended -- scarey, huh?) and making sure oneself is not to blame for anything. Things like tobacco rise up, people feel the companies should be punished, despite the fact that warning have been around for ages, and people decide to go to the gas station, buy a pack, light up, etc. What'll happen if you go to politicians? Most likely they'd nod their head when you're there and forget about it the moment you leave. All it would take is one person crying on TV that simple-key encryption is vital or else your kids will be killed in a high school. There is no logic, just cry and make people feel for ya.
There are certain kinds of people that hate learning thing too new/different on their computers. Where I work, they tend to be older, and just want to live through the day so they can retire soon.
Certainly it's possible to learn, just that many people in corporations are stubborn about it. Every effort to make them that much more comfortable during a transition is appreciated.