and from the article: Blue Origin's team has been laying the groundwork for the hush-hush project from a 53,000-square-foot warehouse in Seattle, but this week's announcement fills out a puzzle that previously could only be guessed on the basis of isolated rumors.
Yeah, sounds like an engineered ploy all the way. Feed the lapdog corporate media a line about how hush hush it is, even while you are making a public announcement about it.
What an excellent place to be. Go to jail for sharing files, and get rich by forcing 13 year school girls to work as bargirls to pay off family debts (don't tell me otherwise; I have been there....).
The neoliberals want to make America like Hong Kong. How thoughtful of them!
....we really don't know all that much YET about biology and about how the universe works. We will someday, but as of today, science and medicine is rather "oversold", meaning we have been led to believe that it is more capable than it really is. And this story is a perfect example of that. A major signaling pathway that we were not even aware. Children at play, even still.....
Look around at what is happening in other western countries. Most other countries are ahead of us in many ways, mainly because America is and always has been in many ways operated for the benefit of the investor, as opposed to being operated for the benefit of the citizen.
You see it everywhere: telco, telecommunications, healthcare, pharmaceuticals, mass transportation, television, radio. Anytime there is a decision to be made, it always seem to be made so as to force Americans to spend more, and that means work more.
But...but...but...I thought American science was so much more advanced than anywhere else in the world, especially in places like Canada, where they have "socialized" medicine....eewwww---> COMMIES!
I thought America was carrying the rest of the world on its back when it came to Real Science....
I propose a new Constitutional Amendment, the 28th Amendment to the American Constitution: For the crime of treason, for selling out to the enemy of the people, i.e., selling out his high governmental office to corporate power, Secretary of Commerce Don Evans shall be hanged by his neck in a public location until he is dead.
Write your Congressperson today in support of my proposed 28th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America! Do your proud and patriotic duty as an America citizen! The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of tyrants!
do you agree that there is a large segment of the population who think that what passes for politics in America is complete bullshit? I would say about 50% or so.
Don't you think there is a niche available for some sort of politics-oriented show that looks at all that from a different perspective?
I myself am working on a public-domain (copylefted) political documentary which I hope to distribute via p2p.
Once I get a peercasting station to distribute my documentary, I hope that it will be passed on via other p2p networks.
I have seen reports that many of the well known charites and nonprofits spend a egregious amount of money on so-called administrative costs, with only a small percent eventually going to those in need.
Apparently these "administrative costs" are often things like new cars and fat bonuses for the nonprofits' management...
maybe because rightwingers are greedy hypocrites without any principles? Ever heard of publicly funded projects leading to private profits? You're soaking in it right now....
To digress, I think almost every human is a greedy hypocrite. I just think we ought to admit and build governmental and administrative infrastructure to deal with it.
Yeah, well, most humans don't really care what the content of whatever it is that the rich and powerful are saying--it's enough for them to just be able to bask in their glow...
Our elected representatives already know what public opinion is on this subject. THey already know that most citizens do not approve of the BSA et al, buying laws from congress. But our elected representatives go ahead and do it anyway. They know that we have no real power. If we throw the bums out of office, they just go to their corporate masters to get a fat payback for doing their bidding. So, if they already KNOW that we do not like what they are doing, and if we vote them out of office, they can then REALLY cash in, why would it matter if we write them and let them know what we think? THat is useless to us.
The only thing that will stop our politicians from selling out is negative consequences. Why don't you run all the traffic lights on the way home from work tonight? You would get home faster! But there would be negative consequences for you if you did that, right? Like getting killed by cross traffic! That would be a Very Bad Thing, and so you would NOT run all those traffic lights.
We need to make sure our elected representatives do our bidding and not that of corporations. We can do that by making sure that extreme bad things happen to them if they do such a thing.
But how do we do that?
Here is a suggestion: kill them if they sell out. Now, I am not suggesting any sort of illegal activity, but instead we should implements a legal infrastructure and laws that subject ALL elected representatives to periodic and intense scrutiny. In other words, subject them all the a quasi-prosecution on a regular basis. Try them, and if found guilty, hang them publicly. After that happens a couple of times, no politician would want to bring on such shame and humiliation on his/her family, which could last for generations.
Oh, but you will now say that then all those wonderful and talented politicians would never bother to run for office. Gee, what a loss...I mean, they have done so much for us....
Oh, but you will now say that why should public servants be subjected to possible death? Well, they ARE public servants, after all. It is supopsed to be a "special calling" right? A honor to serve, and all that. What about all the soldiers who gave their innocent lives just for a measly little paycheck?
THe main thing is that we need to turn the tables on the top end of the social hierarchy. Make THEM the focus of a criminal justice system built especially for them. If they are good and honest, they have nothing to fear.....
I have seen the same things you describe as happening in Indymedia, happening in every other large online politcal forum. There is a group dynamic that takes over and bullying and banning becomes the order to the day. THe moderators and admins allow longtime regulars to gang up on newcomners and less frequent posters. Banning and gang-down-modding often is a consequence.
It probably has something to do with regulars making donations to the operating funds of the forums.
so, if you reduce the situation to its inevitable end, the citizens of this country will have nothing to do? What about the return on our nationbuilding investment?
You forget that we compete for resources
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we are all competing for resources and social status. If I elect to buy a more expensive American made product, then I have less money left over for other things, such as rent.
Right now my govt is allowing countries with a much lower standard of living to compete with me for labor. If I buy the expensive American car (or the cheap outsourced software, etc) I may have to live in a hovel because the better homes are going to the people who bought the cheap Asian car, and they have more money now than I do. So they outcompete me, outbid me on the good house.
But if my govt makes a law to outlaw such competition, then everyone will have to buy the more expensive American product, and I no longer am forced to compete by finding the cheap overseas product. Now everyone buys the more expensive product and has less money left over, so the other resources such as housing get less money thrown at them. I can now afford a nice house, and I do not have to live in the hovel (all other things being equal).
There is also one other consequence of my govt outlawing this labor arbitrage--there are now more jobs in America, so there is more tax revenue, which we could use to improve infrastructure, social services, offer universal healthcare, etc.
Sometimes, it helps to actually think for yourself.
maybe trying to outsourcing blame on terrorism
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No matter whether it makes all that much sense, if corporate lobbyists (who probably are paying money to authors and media people to conflate terrorism with job loss) can make an association between job loss and terrorism, that opens the gates for more and easier manipulation of the American public. They can justify more imperialism.
It's ALL good, for them, that is. No conspiracy needed or called for. Just everyday business in the corporatist empire. All sorts of businesses pay regular money to industry lobbyists, and then the lobbyists spend that money on things like propaganda/PR, stuff that is calculated to increase revenues and profits for the businesses that pay their lobbyist fees. And the subject of this slashdot post may well be one example of such lobbyist propaganda.....
"no end in sight"? Nonsense! Try a hanging rope!
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I guarantee you that if we took some of the politicians responible for outsourcing, and tried them for treason in a court of law, and then executed the ones found guilty (as traitors should be executed, by precedent of law), 90% of that outsourcing would disappear toot-sweet....
I am not advocating any unlawful behavior. I just think that when powerful individuals such as Gates (or CEOs of Big Corporations) make these kind of anti-egalitarian, neoliberal statements, they ought to be tried for treason in a court of law and if guilty, hung by their necks (publicly) until they are dead. We put marijuana smugglers in jail for life, but when ultra powerful creatures such as Gates are warring on us, we do nothing?
....as they climbed into their planes: "I am just glad I have a chance to give my life for my country. I just love my work."
And that same dynamic has played itself out down through the years as people did stupid things at the behest of those at the top of the social hierarchy. The young men running headlong into a hail of enemy bullets at places like Gallipoli, and hundreds of other foreign fields.....
And if you said to them that they were crazy, they would either look at you like YOU were crazy, or else denounce you as a traitor.
If the word "brainwashing" gets your knickers in a twist, then you can use the word "enculturation" instead. This aint some stupid cold war, POW cliche I am talking about here. I am talking about something that started almost 100 years ago. This corporatist, neoliberal culture has been evolved like a speciality livestock, manicured like a dwarf bonsai tree, and we are its end product.
Just look at cultures throughout history. Look at all the wacky shit that went on: japanese kamikaze pilots & European fascism just this century are the best examples of propaganda-hothouse artifical cultures. We are just a variant of those two. But go back into history and look that wackiness of various cultures, especially isolated ones. We are isolated from reason, in a way.
"love your work!" LOL! Cargo cult culture, anyone?
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bezos was involved in that one, too, as I recall....
and from the article:
Blue Origin's team has been laying the groundwork for the hush-hush project from a 53,000-square-foot warehouse in Seattle, but this week's announcement fills out a puzzle that previously could only be guessed on the basis of isolated rumors.
Yeah, sounds like an engineered ploy all the way. Feed the lapdog corporate media a line about how hush hush it is, even while you are making a public announcement about it.
Are Americans EVER going to catch on?
Our freedom to tell lawyer jokes....oh, wait....
What an excellent place to be. Go to jail for sharing files, and get rich by forcing 13 year school girls to work as bargirls to pay off family debts (don't tell me otherwise; I have been there....).
The neoliberals want to make America like Hong Kong. How thoughtful of them!
we still have a way to go.
....we really don't know all that much YET about biology and about how the universe works. We will someday, but as of today, science and medicine is rather "oversold", meaning we have been led to believe that it is more capable than it really is. And this story is a perfect example of that. A major signaling pathway that we were not even aware. Children at play, even still.....
Look around at what is happening in other western countries. Most other countries are ahead of us in many ways, mainly because America is and always has been in many ways operated for the benefit of the investor, as opposed to being operated for the benefit of the citizen.
You see it everywhere: telco, telecommunications, healthcare, pharmaceuticals, mass transportation, television, radio. Anytime there is a decision to be made, it always seem to be made so as to force Americans to spend more, and that means work more.
Swing low, sweet chariot....
Declan sure does have that corporate line down pat, don't he?
Declan, your wallet gonna be gettin' mmmmmiiiiighty fat, dude!
The telcos and entertainment industry won't forget you when it comes time for payback. Or has that part already gone?
You sly dog!
But...but...but...I thought American science was so much more advanced than anywhere else in the world, especially in places like Canada, where they have "socialized" medicine....eewwww---> COMMIES!
I thought America was carrying the rest of the world on its back when it came to Real Science....
I propose a new Constitutional Amendment, the 28th Amendment to the American Constitution:
For the crime of treason, for selling out to the enemy of the people, i.e., selling out his high governmental office to corporate power, Secretary of Commerce Don Evans shall be hanged by his neck in a public location until he is dead.
Write your Congressperson today in support of my proposed 28th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America! Do your proud and patriotic duty as an America citizen! The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of tyrants!
do you agree that there is a large segment of the population who think that what passes for politics in America is complete bullshit? I would say about 50% or so.
Don't you think there is a niche available for some sort of politics-oriented show that looks at all that from a different perspective?
I myself am working on a public-domain (copylefted) political documentary which I hope to distribute via p2p.
Once I get a peercasting station to distribute my documentary, I hope that it will be passed on via other p2p networks.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A553 54-2004Aug10.html
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http://www.mailtribune.com/archive/2004/1124/lo
I have seen reports that many of the well known charites and nonprofits spend a egregious amount of money on so-called administrative costs, with only a small percent eventually going to those in need.
Apparently these "administrative costs" are often things like new cars and fat bonuses for the nonprofits' management...
maybe because rightwingers are greedy hypocrites without any principles? Ever heard of publicly funded projects leading to private profits? You're soaking in it right now....
To digress, I think almost every human is a greedy hypocrite. I just think we ought to admit and build governmental and administrative infrastructure to deal with it.
Admitting it is the first part.
I am thinking about boycotting Wikipedia until there are more leftwing wikipedia admins
Yeah, well, most humans don't really care what the content of whatever it is that the rich and powerful are saying--it's enough for them to just be able to bask in their glow...
stupid humans!
Our elected representatives already know what public opinion is on this subject. THey already know that most citizens do not approve of the BSA et al, buying laws from congress. But our elected representatives go ahead and do it anyway. They know that we have no real power. If we throw the bums out of office, they just go to their corporate masters to get a fat payback for doing their bidding. So, if they already KNOW that we do not like what they are doing, and if we vote them out of office, they can then REALLY cash in, why would it matter if we write them and let them know what we think? THat is useless to us.
The only thing that will stop our politicians from selling out is negative consequences. Why don't you run all the traffic lights on the way home from work tonight? You would get home faster! But there would be negative consequences for you if you did that, right? Like getting killed by cross traffic! That would be a Very Bad Thing, and so you would NOT run all those traffic lights.
We need to make sure our elected representatives do our bidding and not that of corporations. We can do that by making sure that extreme bad things happen to them if they do such a thing.
But how do we do that?
Here is a suggestion: kill them if they sell out. Now, I am not suggesting any sort of illegal activity, but instead we should implements a legal infrastructure and laws that subject ALL elected representatives to periodic and intense scrutiny. In other words, subject them all the a quasi-prosecution on a regular basis. Try them, and if found guilty, hang them publicly. After that happens a couple of times, no politician would want to bring on such shame and humiliation on his/her family, which could last for generations.
Oh, but you will now say that then all those wonderful and talented politicians would never bother to run for office. Gee, what a loss...I mean, they have done so much for us....
Oh, but you will now say that why should public servants be subjected to possible death? Well, they ARE public servants, after all. It is supopsed to be a "special calling" right? A honor to serve, and all that. What about all the soldiers who gave their innocent lives just for a measly little paycheck?
THe main thing is that we need to turn the tables on the top end of the social hierarchy. Make THEM the focus of a criminal justice system built especially for them. If they are good and honest, they have nothing to fear.....
Just an idea.
I have seen the same things you describe as happening in Indymedia, happening in every other large online politcal forum. There is a group dynamic that takes over and bullying and banning becomes the order to the day. THe moderators and admins allow longtime regulars to gang up on newcomners and less frequent posters. Banning and gang-down-modding often is a consequence.
It probably has something to do with regulars making donations to the operating funds of the forums.
so, if you reduce the situation to its inevitable end, the citizens of this country will have nothing to do? What about the return on our nationbuilding investment?
we are all competing for resources and social status. If I elect to buy a more expensive American made product, then I have less money left over for other things, such as rent.
Right now my govt is allowing countries with a much lower standard of living to compete with me for labor. If I buy the expensive American car (or the cheap outsourced software, etc) I may have to live in a hovel because the better homes are going to the people who bought the cheap Asian car, and they have more money now than I do. So they outcompete me, outbid me on the good house.
But if my govt makes a law to outlaw such competition, then everyone will have to buy the more expensive American product, and I no longer am forced to compete by finding the cheap overseas product. Now everyone buys the more expensive product and has less money left over, so the other resources such as housing get less money thrown at them. I can now afford a nice house, and I do not have to live in the hovel (all other things being equal).
There is also one other consequence of my govt outlawing this labor arbitrage--there are now more jobs in America, so there is more tax revenue, which we could use to improve infrastructure, social services, offer universal healthcare, etc.
Sometimes, it helps to actually think for yourself.
No matter whether it makes all that much sense, if corporate lobbyists (who probably are paying money to authors and media people to conflate terrorism with job loss) can make an association between job loss and terrorism, that opens the gates for more and easier manipulation of the American public. They can justify more imperialism.
It's ALL good, for them, that is. No conspiracy needed or called for. Just everyday business in the corporatist empire. All sorts of businesses pay regular money to industry lobbyists, and then the lobbyists spend that money on things like propaganda/PR, stuff that is calculated to increase revenues and profits for the businesses that pay their lobbyist fees. And the subject of this slashdot post may well be one example of such lobbyist propaganda.....
I guarantee you that if we took some of the politicians responible for outsourcing, and tried them for treason in a court of law, and then executed the ones found guilty (as traitors should be executed, by precedent of law), 90% of that outsourcing would disappear toot-sweet....
I am not advocating any unlawful behavior. I just think that when powerful individuals such as Gates (or CEOs of Big Corporations) make these kind of anti-egalitarian, neoliberal statements, they ought to be tried for treason in a court of law and if guilty, hung by their necks (publicly) until they are dead. We put marijuana smugglers in jail for life, but when ultra powerful creatures such as Gates are warring on us, we do nothing?
Try him for treason and HANG GATES!
Just my ever-humble opinion....
....as they climbed into their planes: "I am just glad I have a chance to give my life for my country. I just love my work."
And that same dynamic has played itself out down through the years as people did stupid things at the behest of those at the top of the social hierarchy. The young men running headlong into a hail of enemy bullets at places like Gallipoli, and hundreds of other foreign fields.....
And if you said to them that they were crazy, they would either look at you like YOU were crazy, or else denounce you as a traitor.
If the word "brainwashing" gets your knickers in a twist, then you can use the word "enculturation" instead. This aint some stupid cold war, POW cliche I am talking about here. I am talking about something that started almost 100 years ago. This corporatist, neoliberal culture has been evolved like a speciality livestock, manicured like a dwarf bonsai tree, and we are its end product.
Just look at cultures throughout history. Look at all the wacky shit that went on: japanese kamikaze pilots & European fascism just this century are the best examples of propaganda-hothouse artifical cultures. We are just a variant of those two. But go back into history and look that wackiness of various cultures, especially isolated ones. We are isolated from reason, in a way.
"love your work!" LOL! Cargo cult culture, anyone?