Neocons are a subset of the neoliberals. Neoliberalism is an old idea. Neocons basically represent the faction of the GOP (and some Dems) that want to rule the Mideast with an iron hand. You might say that necons basically represent the religious or hardcore neoliberals in the USA who are strongly in favor of using the military.
Neoliberalism is the core of American politics. And neoliberalism has been a long tradition in the USA. The USA Constitution is neoliberal.
Both Democratic and GOP parties are staunchly neoliberal, but the GOP is more so.
The nations that are farthest away from neoliberalism are the quasisocialist countries (there are only one or maybe 2 truly socialist countries). Norway is pretty far away from neoliberalism. England is closer to true neoliberalism than France or the Netherlands. A strong welfare state is anathema to neoliberals.
Neoliberalism is centered around looking out for the rights of property and wealth.
Neoliberalism has nothing to do with American liberals, such as Rep. Dennis Kucinich, Cynthia McKinney, et al. Kerry, BTW, is NOT a liberal. He is a neoliberal.
That is what we get for not minding the store, and letting our hired men (the president, the congress, governors, legislators, FBI hierarchy, CIA, etc) have the run of the place, and just do whatever they please. THat is what we get for making them the top of the social hierarchy heap, instead of letting them know that they are just hired help. THey have turned themselves into Kings and The King's Men, and now we are the vassals/serfs.
If you really think we citizens are the owners of America, then we need to vote into office reprsentatives who will take action to let future officeholders know that the citizen is boss. We can do that by indicting, and trying, and then punishing severely the past officeholders and organizational leader for transgressions against citizens, such as this one here, with the tunnels.
Our hired men have clearly stepped over the line with this one. I say we try Bush, Clinton, and the leadership of the FBI for treason on this one. Do it in a court of law. And then punish them appropriately for treason, which in the past has often been death by hanging, firing squad.
You have to let the hired men know who is boss, or otherwise we become their chattel. And you have to do it publicly so as to bring shame down upon the names of those who transgressed.
If a business is jointly owned by multiple owners, who never come in to mind the business, do you think it likely that the hired men will start ripping off the owners? I do, and that is what is happening here. We need to start acting like we own this country, otherwise we will lose it.
As a CS major myself, I am amazed at the number of CS majors these days. Why bother? There are virtually NO entry level jobs for CS majors! There are some for the very experienced, but that is about it. THere are still some jobs for admins. THat would seem a more suitable goal.
Come to think of it, why are so many people still wasting their good young years and mortgaging their future on getting a BA/BS? There is a huge oversupply of such people already.....
Just goes to show you the power to propaganda and the power of inertia.
But what about the monkeys whose heads were transplanted onto the bodies of other monkeys? yes, they were partially paralyzed, but they were able to communicate using their heads in such ways that the researchers were able to confirm that the knowledge they had before transplantation, were still there after transplant. Thus, unless you stipulate that a human has a soul, or something else a monkey does not have, then YOU ARE YOUR BRAIN.
And if you think we have souls, then, well, you have "issues" that make this discussion moot....
Alcor has the better and newer cryopreservatives, which afford vitrification, and Alcor also uses a cryopreservation standby team, who are mainly made up of cryonicists, who have been trained and who fly to remote locations, whereas CI uses morticians for the most part. No standy team for CI....
The degree of information retrieval from a frozen brain is dependent upon the sophistication of the information retrieval technology. Same as retrieving information from a shattered hard drive. It can be done, but you need some good equipment.
Cryonics DOES preserve information, but is it enough for revival?
Well, how much information is preserved depends not so much on the cryopreserative technology used today, but instead on how sophisticated is the information retrieval technology of the future.
But "the future" when it comes to reviving a frozen cryo, is NOT set. If the information retrieval technology at year N is not sufficient to revive, then wait K years.
So, I hope you see that the odds are quite possibly good that there will exist some year N + m*K years from today in which the information retrieval technology is sufficiently sophisticated.
So, in retrospect, destroying information LONGTERM is actually difficult.
That is the REALLY important data--like how it felt to get your first kiss, to drive your first car, to re-read your favorite book, etc etc.
What about maintaining THAT data after you die?
It may be feasible! Check out cryonics, the experimental science of cryopreservation, where as soon as possible after legal death, your brain is perfused with a cryopreservative (to minimize ice crystal formation), and then placed in liquid nitrogen, where all chemical reactions essentially cease.
Hundreds or even thousands of years from now, sophisticated neuroarchaeological techniques may be used to restore that data. And when that data is restored, you will be alive again. Nice work if you can get it, huh? And if revived in a society that is capable of such science, well, you are talking "virtual immortality", my friends.
That is why we need to a more progressive taxation system. Fuck a flat tax all to hell. Anyone who thinks a flat tax is good for most Americans is a propagandized sheeple.
Rich people and high income earners should be highly taxed, e.g., 50% taxation for 200K of income and unearned income, with progressive gradations on up from there. Wealth over a certain amount should also be taxed at a much smaller rate.
...after being found guilty of treason in a court of law, of course.
Until we get rid of the idea that our elected offical are anything other than our goddamn hired men, and start recognizing that the citizen is the owner of America, and that the country should revolve around satisfying the citizen, then this pack animal crap will continue.
We need to start punishing our hired men in a drastic fashion.
...of our govt working for the corporations and investors. If we acted as if we were the OWNERS of this country, instead of employees for the corporations, we could do whatever we want to this country.
Imagine if a jointly owned business hired a manager to handle that business, and then that managers started turning away business, sending customers to the lower priced competitor down the street ("outsourcing"). When confronted by the owners, the manager replies that his behavior is justified because now the managers can get that "outsourced" product/service cheaper, thus benefiting the owners of the joint business.
...to listen to your truth! After decades of media propaganda, they are trained better than Pavlov's dog.
THey will, for the most part, just mutter "Commie" to your remarks, and either mod as troll or move on.
Oh, well, what can ya do? Anyway, here are some links backing up what you are talking about: http://www.geocities.com/cryofan/socialdem .html http://www.pushhamburger.com/edge.htm http ://www.deoxy.org/korten_assault.htm
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I do not use kazaa because of the RIAA lawsuits. But Usenet seems perfectly useful to me....
Neocons are a subset of the neoliberals. Neoliberalism is an old idea. Neocons basically represent the faction of the GOP (and some Dems) that want to rule the Mideast with an iron hand. You might say that necons basically represent the religious or hardcore neoliberals in the USA who are strongly in favor of using the military.
Neoliberalism is the core of American politics. And neoliberalism has been a long tradition in the USA. The USA Constitution is neoliberal.
Both Democratic and GOP parties are staunchly neoliberal, but the GOP is more so.
The nations that are farthest away from neoliberalism are the quasisocialist countries (there are only one or maybe 2 truly socialist countries). Norway is pretty far away from neoliberalism. England is closer to true neoliberalism than France or the Netherlands. A strong welfare state is anathema to neoliberals.
Neoliberalism is centered around looking out for the rights of property and wealth.
Neoliberalism has nothing to do with American liberals, such as Rep. Dennis Kucinich, Cynthia McKinney, et al.
Kerry, BTW, is NOT a liberal. He is a neoliberal.
That is what we get for not minding the store, and letting our hired men (the president, the congress, governors, legislators, FBI hierarchy, CIA, etc) have the run of the place, and just do whatever they please. THat is what we get for making them the top of the social hierarchy heap, instead of letting them know that they are just hired help. THey have turned themselves into Kings and The King's Men, and now we are the vassals/serfs.
If you really think we citizens are the owners of America, then we need to vote into office reprsentatives who will take action to let future officeholders know that the citizen is boss. We can do that by indicting, and trying, and then punishing severely the past officeholders and organizational leader for transgressions against citizens, such as this one here, with the tunnels.
Our hired men have clearly stepped over the line with this one. I say we try Bush, Clinton, and the leadership of the FBI for treason on this one. Do it in a court of law. And then punish them appropriately for treason, which in the past has often been death by hanging, firing squad.
You have to let the hired men know who is boss, or otherwise we become their chattel. And you have to do it publicly so as to bring shame down upon the names of those who transgressed.
If a business is jointly owned by multiple owners, who never come in to mind the business, do you think it likely that the hired men will start ripping off the owners? I do, and that is what is happening here. We need to start acting like we own this country, otherwise we will lose it.
They say the frog in the pot never notices the water getting hotter as the fire is oh so slowly turned up....
Ah, the work-is-heaven neoliberal propaganda cinches down another notch on the proles.....
I think he went the way of the Internet Stock Boom....
As a CS major myself, I am amazed at the number of CS majors these days. Why bother? There are virtually NO entry level jobs for CS majors! There are some for the very experienced, but that is about it. THere are still some jobs for admins. THat would seem a more suitable goal.
Come to think of it, why are so many people still wasting their good young years and mortgaging their future on getting a BA/BS? There is a huge oversupply of such people already.....
Just goes to show you the power to propaganda and the power of inertia.
--cryos are mobile.
--cryos are stored in a stable location, easy to move.
--cryos do not need electricity to stay cool.
We are way ahead of you....
I laughed so hard.....
But what about the monkeys whose heads were transplanted onto the bodies of other monkeys? yes, they were partially paralyzed, but they were able to communicate using their heads in such ways that the researchers were able to confirm that the knowledge they had before transplantation, were still there after transplant. Thus, unless you stipulate that a human has a soul, or something else a monkey does not have, then YOU ARE YOUR BRAIN.
And if you think we have souls, then, well, you have "issues" that make this discussion moot....
Alcor has the better and newer cryopreservatives, which afford vitrification, and Alcor also uses a cryopreservation standby team, who are mainly made up of cryonicists, who have been trained and who fly to remote locations, whereas CI uses morticians for the most part. No standy team for CI....
You are your brain.
Your brain is information.
The degree of information retrieval from a frozen brain is dependent upon the sophistication of the information retrieval technology. Same as retrieving information from a shattered hard drive. It can be done, but you need some good equipment.
Cryonics DOES preserve information, but is it enough for revival?
Well, how much information is preserved depends not so much on the cryopreserative technology used today, but instead on how sophisticated is the information retrieval technology of the future.
But "the future" when it comes to reviving a frozen cryo, is NOT set. If the information retrieval technology at year N is not sufficient to revive, then wait K years.
So, I hope you see that the odds are quite possibly good that there will exist some year N + m*K years from today in which the information retrieval technology is sufficiently sophisticated.
So, in retrospect, destroying information LONGTERM is actually difficult.
For more information on Information Theoretic Death, see Ralph Merkle here and here and here.
That is the REALLY important data--like how it felt to get your first kiss, to drive your first car, to re-read your favorite book, etc etc.
What about maintaining THAT data after you die?
It may be feasible! Check out cryonics, the experimental science of cryopreservation, where as soon as possible after legal death, your brain is perfused with a cryopreservative (to minimize ice crystal formation), and then placed in liquid nitrogen, where all chemical reactions essentially cease.
Hundreds or even thousands of years from now, sophisticated neuroarchaeological techniques may be used to restore that data. And when that data is restored, you will be alive again. Nice work if you can get it, huh? And if revived in a society that is capable of such science, well, you are talking "virtual immortality", my friends.
see Alcor for details....
fucking neurotic as hell, and twice are hardheaded....
Then again, some people feel very little loyalty towards their computer.
he was just another sheeple
Rich people and high income earners should be highly taxed, e.g., 50% taxation for 200K of income and unearned income, with progressive gradations on up from there. Wealth over a certain amount should also be taxed at a much smaller rate.
after a fair trial for treason in a recognized court of law. .....just a suggestion!
humans evolved as pack animals--those at the top of the hierarchy got the social status. And even now they get their way from the sheeple masses.
Plus, the last 100 years of propaganda directed towards the sheeple masses helps get them nice and docile.
Socialism should be the ultimate longterm goal of ANY rational society.
who would of thought that the compassionate conservative would ever put the knife in our back?
...after being found guilty of treason in a court of law, of course.
Until we get rid of the idea that our elected offical are anything other than our goddamn hired men, and start recognizing that the citizen is the owner of America, and that the country should revolve around satisfying the citizen, then this pack animal crap will continue.
We need to start punishing our hired men in a drastic fashion.
moron
...of our govt working for the corporations and investors. If we acted as if we were the OWNERS of this country, instead of employees for the corporations, we could do whatever we want to this country.
Imagine if a jointly owned business hired a manager to handle that business, and then that managers started turning away business, sending customers to the lower priced competitor down the street ("outsourcing"). When confronted by the owners, the manager replies that his behavior is justified because now the managers can get that "outsourced" product/service cheaper, thus benefiting the owners of the joint business.
...to listen to your truth! After decades of media propaganda, they are trained better than Pavlov's dog.
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THey will, for the most part, just mutter "Commie" to your remarks, and either mod as troll or move on.
Oh, well, what can ya do? Anyway, here are some links backing up what you are talking about:
http://www.geocities.com/cryofan/socialde
http://www.pushhamburger.com/edge.htm
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Are you familiar with the mathematical concept of a limit?