We are forgetting that Lamar Smith, a Republican first proposed this thing, correct? Face it, it wasn't Tea Party supporters or Republicans that stopped this. It was all of us that wanted Internet freedom. It was the threat of being voted out of office that made these politicians reject it, not one party or another. You bet your ass either side would pass it if they thought they could get away with it.
I was mostly making a joke, but it is true that eight months from now some will start to wait for next gen rather than buy current gen at a good price. The way I do it is to just buy whenever I think I need it. Like that there is no remorse.
I sure hope so. I have a 6950 that I flashed. I wanted to get another, but I could not find any more. Still, I might just get the normal 7970 because it just overclocks so well. Still waiting on nvidia so that we can get some price drops, though.
Yes, but at that point these cards will be old and busted and the new hotness will have been announced. It does backfire sometimes, though, you know Fermi and all.
At some point, that DLC will no longer be available. So if I ever want to play the game that I bough new today, five years from now it won't work. Or would you say Ford was completely correct in putting sponges in cars that were purchased near sea areas? This is just breaking a game for no just reason.
Bravo, my good sir. Bravo. Couldn't have put it better myself. Yes, this confusion over digital downloads has gotten some people to form arguments against their interests. The "you don't own it, you just have a license" argument falls flat on its face once you realize that you both bought a product and were granted a license that is directly attached to the product. It seems that gamers no longer have a sense of ownership and think that it all should belong to game companies.
The problem with that is that when I want to play my game some years from now, I will have a reduced experience. How long until the whole game is locked out like this? They're just trying to see how much crap people that play games will take.
A collection of digital files is no collection at all. I could easily just pirate the same games, DLC and all, and it would be the same thing. Steam is a service, not a retailer of products. You own nothing, and thus can never let a friend borrow your games or give them away to other people when you are done with them. This was the biggest part of gaming for me and without that buying games has no meaning or purpose.
How are games from steam new? There's no box art or manuals or anything that's remotely collectible. The minute that I am unable to buy games in boxes with collector's editions and stuff is the moment that I turn to piracy if I ever play a game, or just buy indie titles. Hell, at that point, I can't even let my friends borrow games or give them away when I'm done, which sucks because I give away a lot of games to my brother and my cousins.
What's the big deal? It had to happen at some point, so we'll just have to find better ways to fight criminals. Plus I'm sure you can't manufacture ammunition like this, and who's to say that these guns will even take the stress of putting a round through them?
I don't know, if you're implying you can download things from others' brains, then it would be cool if you could download mad guitar skills, or better yet, how to be an awesome programmer/engineer.
True, but you might also be able to download molds for whole engines and things that are simply not milled. The fact that you can preserve these things means that cars will never go truly out of production because you will always be able to recreate them from digital files. I heard that the dies for the DeLorean are no longer with us, so no one will ever be able to make one that is a 'true' DeLorean. With this kind of thing, one will always be able to recreate these stamping dies and make a new car with the same specifications, even if it is a bit more expensive.
People have already built printed RC planes. And I think I saw one video where a guy printed rotor blades. So printing your own UAV might not be too far off.
When it became apparent that people would not have certain cervices unless the government subsidized them. Or would you rather that rural America be without electricity still?
As long as you do not redistribute the code, then there is no problem. I like the BSD license, and for certain projects it just works better. I don't think that one should just use one or the other, but so far, I have only needed to use the GPL license. I don't believe either one is more "free." If companies want to be misinformed, then let them be misinformed.
Using BSD or other license won't mitigate this. So why change it? Yes, this is a weakness in the GPL, but one that must be tolerated because otherwise the license would be too cumbersome.
Well, I'm not against them profiting from my code. If they used the code and never made an improvement, the end result would be the same. It's one 'bug' in the GPL license, but I don't see a need to pursue it. They are using the code internally and not distributing. Anyone that wants to make improvement and distribute, well those people will have to give back to the community. I'm not too worried about that.
I think the purpose of the GPL is to ensure that those that profit from your work also give back. Everyone needs to be paid, some of us just want to be paid in code. For that reason I use GPL, but BSD, MIT, Apache are all good, free, licenses, so I really don't see an issue here.
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We are forgetting that Lamar Smith, a Republican first proposed this thing, correct? Face it, it wasn't Tea Party supporters or Republicans that stopped this. It was all of us that wanted Internet freedom. It was the threat of being voted out of office that made these politicians reject it, not one party or another. You bet your ass either side would pass it if they thought they could get away with it.
I was mostly making a joke, but it is true that eight months from now some will start to wait for next gen rather than buy current gen at a good price. The way I do it is to just buy whenever I think I need it. Like that there is no remorse.
I sure hope so. I have a 6950 that I flashed. I wanted to get another, but I could not find any more. Still, I might just get the normal 7970 because it just overclocks so well. Still waiting on nvidia so that we can get some price drops, though.
Yes, but at that point these cards will be old and busted and the new hotness will have been announced. It does backfire sometimes, though, you know Fermi and all.
He meant at mining bitcoins, you dolt. These new cards just don't perform well in that area.
At some point, that DLC will no longer be available. So if I ever want to play the game that I bough new today, five years from now it won't work. Or would you say Ford was completely correct in putting sponges in cars that were purchased near sea areas? This is just breaking a game for no just reason.
Bravo, my good sir. Bravo. Couldn't have put it better myself. Yes, this confusion over digital downloads has gotten some people to form arguments against their interests. The "you don't own it, you just have a license" argument falls flat on its face once you realize that you both bought a product and were granted a license that is directly attached to the product. It seems that gamers no longer have a sense of ownership and think that it all should belong to game companies.
The problem with that is that when I want to play my game some years from now, I will have a reduced experience. How long until the whole game is locked out like this? They're just trying to see how much crap people that play games will take.
A collection of digital files is no collection at all. I could easily just pirate the same games, DLC and all, and it would be the same thing. Steam is a service, not a retailer of products. You own nothing, and thus can never let a friend borrow your games or give them away to other people when you are done with them. This was the biggest part of gaming for me and without that buying games has no meaning or purpose.
How are games from steam new? There's no box art or manuals or anything that's remotely collectible. The minute that I am unable to buy games in boxes with collector's editions and stuff is the moment that I turn to piracy if I ever play a game, or just buy indie titles. Hell, at that point, I can't even let my friends borrow games or give them away when I'm done, which sucks because I give away a lot of games to my brother and my cousins.
to death. Then again, I am more interested in FPV flights and UAVs than balloons.
What's the big deal? It had to happen at some point, so we'll just have to find better ways to fight criminals. Plus I'm sure you can't manufacture ammunition like this, and who's to say that these guns will even take the stress of putting a round through them?
I don't know, if you're implying you can download things from others' brains, then it would be cool if you could download mad guitar skills, or better yet, how to be an awesome programmer/engineer.
True, but you might also be able to download molds for whole engines and things that are simply not milled. The fact that you can preserve these things means that cars will never go truly out of production because you will always be able to recreate them from digital files. I heard that the dies for the DeLorean are no longer with us, so no one will ever be able to make one that is a 'true' DeLorean. With this kind of thing, one will always be able to recreate these stamping dies and make a new car with the same specifications, even if it is a bit more expensive.
People have already built printed RC planes. And I think I saw one video where a guy printed rotor blades. So printing your own UAV might not be too far off.
When it became apparent that people would not have certain cervices unless the government subsidized them. Or would you rather that rural America be without electricity still?
You know the Germans always make good stuff.
It's for charity.
Just another example of the blatant abuse that is possible with these laws. SOPA will only make it worse if it passes.
You can't pirate electricity. Those electrons want to be free.
It would be cool if that were the case, then we would just have to make some ships or probes from that. Indestructible space-craft. Might be nice.
As long as you do not redistribute the code, then there is no problem. I like the BSD license, and for certain projects it just works better. I don't think that one should just use one or the other, but so far, I have only needed to use the GPL license. I don't believe either one is more "free." If companies want to be misinformed, then let them be misinformed.
Using BSD or other license won't mitigate this. So why change it? Yes, this is a weakness in the GPL, but one that must be tolerated because otherwise the license would be too cumbersome.
Well, I'm not against them profiting from my code. If they used the code and never made an improvement, the end result would be the same. It's one 'bug' in the GPL license, but I don't see a need to pursue it. They are using the code internally and not distributing. Anyone that wants to make improvement and distribute, well those people will have to give back to the community. I'm not too worried about that.
I think the purpose of the GPL is to ensure that those that profit from your work also give back. Everyone needs to be paid, some of us just want to be paid in code. For that reason I use GPL, but BSD, MIT, Apache are all good, free, licenses, so I really don't see an issue here.