Dont' you mean Darth Mouse...or Darth White & the Seven Jedi...?:)
On the one hand, this might be more terrifying than any hurricane could ever be! On the other, can Disney fubar up the franchise any worse than Lucas has done...? At least Disney knows how to tell a story, if nothing else. And after all, SW is just a fairy tale with a slap of space opera sci-fi on top.
Hey, so long as there are no muppets & the main actors are over 10, I'll probably see it. I saw my 1st Imperial Star Destroyer explode onto the screen at 12, so Disney may just take me back to that galaxy that now seems so far, far away, after Lucas got through with it *grumble*...
I rather like the _idea_ of the Venus Project, with its resource-based economic model, but don't let any holier-than-thou atheists around here hear you using that 'Z' word!;) Even so, we can't be sure that neo-socialist, resource-based, uber-techno societies won't implode under some other weight. Imagine a society of sociopaths who want for *nothing*, never have to leave the safety of their zero-G couches, where everything is dished out via the Matrix (under our control of course)...what would be left for these simians to aspire to, why would they create art, or do anything altruistic for the betterment of mankind or even just employ rational/critical reasoning I ask you? More likely we would all become serial killers or torture each other just for our hedonistic pleasure, as history has shown us time & time again.
Even though I personally don't believe that Man can save himself any longer (or ever could - hey it's Biblical!;), I continue to place some measure of faith in our species, for no other reason than that I can't except a universe that a creator may have created, 14+ billion LYs across, that we were never meant to explore or experience, anthropic principle be damned! <G>
Why? He's an AC & an apathetic/cynical dimwit. Soulskill does well to remind us of our lost humanity & the soullessness our western society is headed towards, if not already there. Quoting bullshit wikipedia 'laws' at us also doesn't change the facts or change anything in actual fact.
In any case, SV is just a reflection & extension of our society as a whole, just another symptom of what may be the beginning of the end, if we're not past the point of no return already..??? (who says every discussion post can't end with a ? ?:)
Enterprise was watered down, sanitised crap, which is why it died the death it deserved halfway thru S4. Also, it's 'retro' tech, which was just like TOS/TNG tech, except in slightly older, antiquated looking wrappers, was just too hard to swallow. Now, T'Pol vs 7of9 - there's an argument no one is going to win!;) (I agree on the doctor in Ent, especially after the masterful job Picardo did in Voyager).
Of course, we dodged the 'Star Fleet Academy 90210' bullet with Enterprise, so perhaps we should be thankful for at least that! *shudder*
Oh yes! Now, did anyone else find Kes almost as annoying by association...?
Just started watching it from start again recently with the Mrs (for about the 7th time!). There are just so many things good/great about it, that one can overlook & forgive the necessity for a Jar Jar counterpoint in Neelix. Virtually every character is interesting & fun to watch, even if annoying at times, whereas in TNG I found half the cast annoying as hell! DS9 was ok from about season 4, but I tried going back to S1 about a year ago & nearly lost an eye!:)
Is this an opportune time to mention the many superior qualities of B5, or...ARRRGGHHHHHhhhhh!@#$%^&*() *choke* *splutter*...---------
Speaking from experience (I have one love child that I know of in my long distant past:), once you start trading bodily fluids as an early teenager, ain't no amount of sex education videos showing single-parenthood or the horrible results of various STDs going to stop you from that sinusoidal rhythm & inevitable culmination very shortly thereafter!;)
BUT, I concede that the world was a bit different & less 'open' or switched on about sex some 30+ years ago *sigh*. At the risk of getting stoned (the biblical kind), it's almost a shame HIV doesn't have a number of visible symptoms before it turns to AIDS, such as blue pimples all over your face, or turning your hair really dorky...THAT would probably do a helluva lot more to educate the young popsicles than any efforts of us old farts trying to pass on our wisdom or experience heh.
There's an inherent fallacy in your argument - you've made the assumption that teaching kids how & where to buy & use condoms/contraception & exercise safe sex is easier than just getting them to say no. Or that they'll listen to one more than the other. Just sayin...;)
Lawn-mowers don't kill people. People kill people. And for a great many reasons other than the religion they hide behind. What's yer excuse for Stalin & Mao...?
>Decent atheists would never want to interfere with your quest.
I'll let you know when I meet one that didn't think he was God lol!;-p
(I did like your QM metaphors though - very HGTTG;).
Smells of fatalism to me. And the would-be scientists are happy to accept such a circular 'principle' or axiom rather, with no evidence whatsoever (in fact the SAME evidence for God's existence i.e. "just look around you!"), but not a sight-unseen creator...? Aha.
Here's a parallel principal: I've never been to the US, in fact I only have other people's (who may or may not in fact exist) word & indirect evidence/observation that it does exist. I will call this the memethropic principle, so because it now has a fancy name, it must be true! QED.
This whole argument is more about epistemology than science really, bleh.
So it's quite reasonable to believe in M-Theory & an infinite, eternal multiverse, based only on mathematical masturbation & very little to no direct evidence...but not an infinite, eternal creator that half the world seems to believe in...?
I'd give your logic 0 out of 10. Don't bother.:)
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Does anyone else agree/think that Dawkins is the only one with the God delusion here & that this entire thread is in fact just another giant troll of his (as is most of his derivative drek) & you know boyz n girlz, we're not supposed to feed da trolls, mkay?;)
Atheism, just like Darwinian evolution, seems to be far more an article of faith these days than most spiritual beliefs (note I didn't use the ancient Hebrew term 'religio(n)'). It also seems to be the principal source of *spiritual pride* aka hubris amongst the angsty hipster crowd who just don't want to grow up. Eh.
"In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters."
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We're about 68 steps ahead of you there sparky! <EG>
Dont' you mean Darth Mouse...or Darth White & the Seven Jedi...? :)
On the one hand, this might be more terrifying than any hurricane could ever be! On the other, can Disney fubar up the franchise any worse than Lucas has done...?
At least Disney knows how to tell a story, if nothing else. And after all, SW is just a fairy tale with a slap of space opera sci-fi on top.
Hey, so long as there are no muppets & the main actors are over 10, I'll probably see it. I saw my 1st Imperial Star Destroyer explode onto the screen at 12, so Disney may just take me back to that galaxy that now seems so far, far away, after Lucas got through with it *grumble*...
At least 3 citations needed (that aren't wiki pages! ;-p).
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"Pavlovian knuckleheads" he he, *chuckle*
I rather like the _idea_ of the Venus Project, with its resource-based economic model, but don't let any holier-than-thou atheists around here hear you using that 'Z' word! ;)
Even so, we can't be sure that neo-socialist, resource-based, uber-techno societies won't implode under some other weight. Imagine a society of sociopaths who want for *nothing*, never have to leave the safety of their zero-G couches, where everything is dished out via the Matrix (under our control of course)...what would be left for these simians to aspire to, why would they create art, or do anything altruistic for the betterment of mankind or even just employ rational/critical reasoning I ask you? More likely we would all become serial killers or torture each other just for our hedonistic pleasure, as history has shown us time & time again.
Even though I personally don't believe that Man can save himself any longer (or ever could - hey it's Biblical! ;), I continue to place some measure of faith in our species, for no other reason than that I can't except a universe that a creator may have created, 14+ billion LYs across, that we were never meant to explore or experience, anthropic principle be damned! <G>
Hey, at least there's only one of me...last time I checked. ;-p
ROFLMAO! What is this thing called 'free market' you talk about? And I do not think 'Capitalism' means what you think it means (any more). <BFG>
It was a diatribe. Come back when you learn how to summarise. ;-p
Why? He's an AC & an apathetic/cynical dimwit. Soulskill does well to remind us of our lost humanity & the soullessness our western society is headed towards, if not already there. Quoting bullshit wikipedia 'laws' at us also doesn't change the facts or change anything in actual fact.
In any case, SV is just a reflection & extension of our society as a whole, just another symptom of what may be the beginning of the end, if we're not past the point of no return already..??? (who says every discussion post can't end with a ? ? :)
Enterprise was watered down, sanitised crap, which is why it died the death it deserved halfway thru S4. ;)
Also, it's 'retro' tech, which was just like TOS/TNG tech, except in slightly older, antiquated looking wrappers, was just too hard to swallow.
Now, T'Pol vs 7of9 - there's an argument no one is going to win!
(I agree on the doctor in Ent, especially after the masterful job Picardo did in Voyager).
Of course, we dodged the 'Star Fleet Academy 90210' bullet with Enterprise, so perhaps we should be thankful for at least that! *shudder*
Any news of another series on any horizon...?
Oh yes! Now, did anyone else find Kes almost as annoying by association...?
Just started watching it from start again recently with the Mrs (for about the 7th time!). There are just so many things good/great about it, that one can overlook & forgive the necessity for a Jar Jar counterpoint in Neelix. Virtually every character is interesting & fun to watch, even if annoying at times, whereas in TNG I found half the cast annoying as hell! DS9 was ok from about season 4, but I tried going back to S1 about a year ago & nearly lost an eye! :)
Is this an opportune time to mention the many superior qualities of B5, or...ARRRGGHHHHHhhhhh!@#$%^&*() *choke* *splutter*...---------
I SWEAR that the original concept name was 6 of 9, but was changed for obvious reasons :).
Picard was a dweeb & well past his due date start of season 1 lol! (only time I got a sense of real authority from him was when he was Locutus, eh).
Now Worf - he could have made a fine captain I tell ya!
He's just sore that she has bigger balls than him (& most of the other ST captains! :).
If you're looking for annoying in Voyager, you don't have to look past Neelix. Him I could have done without, or with a whole lot less.
And Voyager is my favourite ST series. There I said it. *duck & dodge*
Yer being far too articulate & rational for a /. regular (assuming that you are).
Stop it or I may grow fond of your work, even if you are more eloquent & smarter than me ;-p.
Speaking from experience (I have one love child that I know of in my long distant past :), once you start trading bodily fluids as an early teenager, ain't no amount of sex education videos showing single-parenthood or the horrible results of various STDs going to stop you from that sinusoidal rhythm & inevitable culmination very shortly thereafter! ;)
BUT, I concede that the world was a bit different & less 'open' or switched on about sex some 30+ years ago *sigh*. At the risk of getting stoned (the biblical kind), it's almost a shame HIV doesn't have a number of visible symptoms before it turns to AIDS, such as blue pimples all over your face, or turning your hair really dorky...THAT would probably do a helluva lot more to educate the young popsicles than any efforts of us old farts trying to pass on our wisdom or experience heh.
There's an inherent fallacy in your argument - you've made the assumption that teaching kids how & where to buy & use condoms/contraception & exercise safe sex is easier than just getting them to say no. Or that they'll listen to one more than the other. Just sayin... ;)
Easy answer: porn for everyone & lotsa masturbation is the most practical method of avoiding HIV! :)
Is it an irony or a tragedy that someone called tragedy thinks they're smarter than everyone else in this cesspool?
Lawn-mowers don't kill people. People kill people. And for a great many reasons other than the religion they hide behind. What's yer excuse for Stalin & Mao...?
>Decent atheists would never want to interfere with your quest.
I'll let you know when I meet one that didn't think he was God lol! ;-p
(I did like your QM metaphors though - very HGTTG ;).
Smells of fatalism to me. And the would-be scientists are happy to accept such a circular 'principle' or axiom rather, with no evidence whatsoever (in fact the SAME evidence for God's existence i.e. "just look around you!"), but not a sight-unseen creator...? Aha.
Here's a parallel principal: I've never been to the US, in fact I only have other people's (who may or may not in fact exist) word & indirect evidence/observation that it does exist. I will call this the memethropic principle, so because it now has a fancy name, it must be true! QED.
This whole argument is more about epistemology than science really, bleh.
So it's quite reasonable to believe in M-Theory & an infinite, eternal multiverse, based only on mathematical masturbation & very little to no direct evidence...but not an infinite, eternal creator that half the world seems to believe in...?
I'd give your logic 0 out of 10. Don't bother. :)
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Does anyone else agree/think that Dawkins is the only one with the God delusion here & that this entire thread is in fact just another giant troll of his (as is most of his derivative drek) & you know boyz n girlz, we're not supposed to feed da trolls, mkay? ;)
Atheism, just like Darwinian evolution, seems to be far more an article of faith these days than most spiritual beliefs (note I didn't use the ancient Hebrew term 'religio(n)'). It also seems to be the principal source of *spiritual pride* aka hubris amongst the angsty hipster crowd who just don't want to grow up. Eh.
I knew we had real pros on /. !!! :)))
(sorry, no mod points...blow it...errr fuckit ...errr...nm. :-/)
Well, it's depriving the 'John' of quite a few bucks...and his health if he wasn't really careful. :)
...is what I'd like to know!? No doubt only available on some Red Bull(shite) pay-per-view site, pfft!
Call me when someone jumps from the *true* edge of space, 100k+ (or better yet, from the upper Thermo/Exosphere 700+ kms! :).
Yeah, I just made that 'independent' observation further up. Coincidence or inevitability...? Believe it or not!
"In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters."
Flame away. <BFG>