It's more like "You can make about the same food as that hip restaurant in LA at your home in NYC, if you've got the time and inclination and a few raw materials..Here's a few recipes..."
But note that to make it look and taste exactly like our example.. you'll need to use a smoking gun, and immersion heater and a blast chiller.
They're not saying they could build Nest for $70 in parts, they're saying they built a nest-clone device in less than 24 hours for about $70 in parts. Their time was theirs to spend, and they're not "marketing" this.
Which is like saying that if you live in NYC that its cheap to buy takeout food for $70 from a hip restaurant in LA.. but not mentioning the private jet you used to fly you there.
But how much of the CNC machine, the laser cutter, their time and also the time needed to come up to speed to know how to combine these items into one product? (and thats not even allowing for the design and marketing time that should be credited to Nest of actually coming up with a concept that sells)
If anything I'd say the real cost of this prototype is in the range of $20k at the very least.
"Oh I'm sorry, I thought I gave you guys the correct password for the deadman's switch after you broke down my door and made your polite request. I guess all the stress of the whole incident must have led me to make some small error. After all typing it in is just muscle memory now, I struggle to remember the characters out loud!"
If you think that smoke and mirrors is going to protect you from the wrath of the gubmint then I think you are severely deluded. The act of throwing the deadmans switch is not the issue, its is the information that throwing it conveys.
They have to have an indicator somewhere saying they have not allowed any government access.
Which by changing the status of it shows that they have had government access and then someone gets into trouble with the government.
This idea of a magical deadman's switch is a complete crock and totally untenable after you consider it for more than one second. Just because the computer threw the switch won't stop the government coming after the owners of the computer.
But if you want to persist with that idea anyway, just take a look at what hoops Jews could jump through with their Kosher light switches in order to get around doing (their definition of) work on the Sabbath (although it does look like that this product never actually did get off the ground). Then take a look at the path you want to go down and see how similar it is.
Samzenpus asked two questions? Not the worst questions, but they're the same questions and answers in pretty much every interview, party small talk, or post-sex chit chat for Alan. More interesting and off-the-wall questions didn't make it.
Just more indication that this shark has been jumped. Like others before me I am starting to get my news from other websites (Hi Ars!) well before it turns up here.
he failed to predict they would have rounded corners, which everyone knows is the true genius of the smartphone.
He actually wanted to say they had rounded corners - but his lawyers advised him against that. It was something to do about a time travel machine, a patent application and being sued or some such.
So I was watching this whole thing on the news and they never mentioned once that this expedition was meant to show the melting ice and such in hopes of showing the effects of global warming on the icepack.
I'd suggest that you change the news outlets that you read/watch. Plenty of places reported the aim of the scientific experiments.
Why??? Snowden did far more harm than good. Nothing has been done about anything he revealed, courts have been ruling it's legal.
So you are totally skipping over the whole "lying to congress" thing as if its inconsequential?
Snowden may have pulled the curtain away to reveal what was suspected with regards to who spies on who, but in doing so he also showed that the intelligence services were out of control and arrogant in their stance.
When programming that celebrates anti-intellectualism is the hottest thing on teevee
For a moment there I thought you were going to call out a specific news channel. But then I saw the rest of the comment and realized you weren't going to be fair and balanced.
Read Stefan Esser's Twitter feed for some off the problems with this jailbreak relating to a mandatory Chinese app store that get installed for some users (featuring pirated apps). They also left other members of the community like Saurik out, which is just odd. I wouldn't trust my devices with personal information with the current jailbreak.
While you may agree or disagree with Apples stance on controlling the apps in iDevices, one thing is certain is that "Jailbreaks" are Security Exploits with all the ramifications that that entails.
I found it easier to start my own company. Yes there are painful trade-offs (wearer of many hats), but if I'm putting sweat equity into something, I'd like to be the beneficiary. I get to dictate direction and scope, and feel so much better about my future.
I am doing this too. The down side is that there is NO natural separation between Church and State. You have to work to set aside free time - and when you work from home even doubly so.
Get with it, its all about meeting up with people in real-time. Awesome. You make a call, talk to a person and arrange to meet up somewhere. Say for dinner or a drink. Maybe even a hook-up.
Ok.. I have friends and family on 4 continents, spread across numerous timezones. Can you please suggest how I am supposed to meet up with them all in real time, and in a timely manner, and without having to be independent wealthy?
Sometimes people don't think too far past the end of their noses. I mean they don't pronounce bowling like howling in the U.S. so it shouldn't be much of a stretch to pronounce Rowling like bowling instead of howling. sheesh.
Actually this one interests me a bit. Not that I care about JK's name (and BTW the end of the last HP novel sucked big time), but the way that the pronunciation/spelling of words are changed by "the media" to suit their audience.
One of the biggest examples of this is the terrorist group formally known as Al Qa'ida. If you listen to news reports from 10 years ago the name was given as Qa'ida and pronounced with 3 syllables, but over time it slowly morphed into Qaeda*, with only 2 syllables. I don't know if this is because the news media thinks their audience can't handle funny sounding words, or if there is some conspiracy to subtly change the name as a way of giving the middle finger to the members of the group.
* I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I think that the pronunciation change is more noticeable in US media.
Just out of curiosity: Given a "black box" implementation of any device, is it possible to test its output sufficiently to gain some faith in its proper operation?
Why do you stop at randomness? You are trusting a lot more hardware than just that when you use a computer.
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In effect they used the Voyager data as a random number generator, whose output they then turned into 'music'?
It's more like "You can make about the same food as that hip restaurant in LA at your home in NYC, if you've got the time and inclination and a few raw materials..Here's a few recipes..."
But note that to make it look and taste exactly like our example .. you'll need to use a smoking gun, and immersion heater and a blast chiller.
Or, you know, use hand tools...
They're not saying they could build Nest for $70 in parts, they're saying they built a nest-clone device in less than 24 hours for about $70 in parts. Their time was theirs to spend, and they're not "marketing" this.
Which is like saying that if you live in NYC that its cheap to buy takeout food for $70 from a hip restaurant in LA .. but not mentioning the private jet you used to fly you there.
Yes .. the raw materials cost $70.
But how much of the CNC machine, the laser cutter, their time and also the time needed to come up to speed to know how to combine these items into one product? (and thats not even allowing for the design and marketing time that should be credited to Nest of actually coming up with a concept that sells)
If anything I'd say the real cost of this prototype is in the range of $20k at the very least.
"Oh I'm sorry, I thought I gave you guys the correct password for the deadman's switch after you broke down my door and made your polite request. I guess all the stress of the whole incident must have led me to make some small error. After all typing it in is just muscle memory now, I struggle to remember the characters out loud!"
If you think that smoke and mirrors is going to protect you from the wrath of the gubmint then I think you are severely deluded. The act of throwing the deadmans switch is not the issue, its is the information that throwing it conveys.
They have to have an indicator somewhere saying they have not allowed any government access.
Which by changing the status of it shows that they have had government access and then someone gets into trouble with the government.
This idea of a magical deadman's switch is a complete crock and totally untenable after you consider it for more than one second. Just because the computer threw the switch won't stop the government coming after the owners of the computer.
But if you want to persist with that idea anyway, just take a look at what hoops Jews could jump through with their Kosher light switches in order to get around doing (their definition of) work on the Sabbath (although it does look like that this product never actually did get off the ground). Then take a look at the path you want to go down and see how similar it is.
Samzenpus asked two questions? Not the worst questions, but they're the same questions and answers in pretty much every interview, party small talk, or post-sex chit chat for Alan. More interesting and off-the-wall questions didn't make it.
Just more indication that this shark has been jumped. Like others before me I am starting to get my news from other websites (Hi Ars!) well before it turns up here.
'nuff sad
he failed to predict they would have rounded corners, which everyone knows is the true genius of the smartphone.
He actually wanted to say they had rounded corners - but his lawyers advised him against that. It was something to do about a time travel machine, a patent application and being sued or some such.
That time traveler in the documentary "Looper" was right .. I should learn Chinese.
So I was watching this whole thing on the news and they never mentioned once that this expedition was meant to show the melting ice and such in hopes of showing the effects of global warming on the icepack.
I'd suggest that you change the news outlets that you read/watch. Plenty of places reported the aim of the scientific experiments.
Why??? Snowden did far more harm than good. Nothing has been done about anything he revealed, courts have been ruling it's legal.
So you are totally skipping over the whole "lying to congress" thing as if its inconsequential?
Snowden may have pulled the curtain away to reveal what was suspected with regards to who spies on who, but in doing so he also showed that the intelligence services were out of control and arrogant in their stance.
When programming that celebrates anti-intellectualism is the hottest thing on teevee
For a moment there I thought you were going to call out a specific news channel. But then I saw the rest of the comment and realized you weren't going to be fair and balanced.
That's great but how about we teach the average American how to spot Europe on a map first.
I think finding Europe is the least of their problems: The Chaser: War on Everything - Americans
(Yes I know it was probably all in the editing .. still .. you've got to be elfin joking)
paying Apple's RIDICULOUS prices for SSD, RAM, processors, is just insane.
Which is why my next Apple desktop will most likely be a mac mini and not an iMac, and I doubt I will get another MacBook Pro (even a refurbed one)
There is a major difference between a couple of days off school and 8 months in prison and a permanent criminal record.
The OP was basically referring to the joke's punchline of Now we are just haggling over the price
Read Stefan Esser's Twitter feed for some off the problems with this jailbreak relating to a mandatory Chinese app store that get installed for some users (featuring pirated apps). They also left other members of the community like Saurik out, which is just odd. I wouldn't trust my devices with personal information with the current jailbreak.
While you may agree or disagree with Apples stance on controlling the apps in iDevices, one thing is certain is that "Jailbreaks" are Security Exploits with all the ramifications that that entails.
I found it easier to start my own company. Yes there are painful trade-offs (wearer of many hats), but if I'm putting sweat equity into something, I'd like to be the beneficiary. I get to dictate direction and scope, and feel so much better about my future.
I am doing this too. The down side is that there is NO natural separation between Church and State. You have to work to set aside free time - and when you work from home even doubly so.
What are the fucking electrical engineering doing??? Make some fucking sensors!!!
Proptip .. designing robust, reliable and cheap sensors is hard.
Social Media was so 2013.
Get with it, its all about meeting up with people in real-time. Awesome. You make a call, talk to a person and arrange to meet up somewhere. Say for dinner or a drink. Maybe even a hook-up.
Ok .. I have friends and family on 4 continents, spread across numerous timezones. Can you please suggest how I am supposed to meet up with them all in real time, and in a timely manner, and without having to be independent wealthy?
Sometimes people don't think too far past the end of their noses. I mean they don't pronounce bowling like howling in the U.S. so it shouldn't be much of a stretch to pronounce Rowling like bowling instead of howling. sheesh.
Actually this one interests me a bit. Not that I care about JK's name (and BTW the end of the last HP novel sucked big time), but the way that the pronunciation/spelling of words are changed by "the media" to suit their audience.
One of the biggest examples of this is the terrorist group formally known as Al Qa'ida. If you listen to news reports from 10 years ago the name was given as Qa'ida and pronounced with 3 syllables, but over time it slowly morphed into Qaeda*, with only 2 syllables. I don't know if this is because the news media thinks their audience can't handle funny sounding words, or if there is some conspiracy to subtly change the name as a way of giving the middle finger to the members of the group.
* I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I think that the pronunciation change is more noticeable in US media.
Its like super sized BYOD except in this case it is bring your own load flattening system.
The company is only saving money on its power bill because its employees are freely lending them the hardware that they invested their own money in.
Not only that the company is not even paying depreciation on the reduced number of battery charge cycles the employees will see.
Just out of curiosity: Given a "black box" implementation of any device, is it possible to test its output sufficiently to gain some faith in its proper operation?
Why do you stop at randomness? You are trusting a lot more hardware than just that when you use a computer.
And I guarantee that all your problems will be solved very quickly by the dedicate volunteers who visit this site.
But you may need to brush up your resume first.
The maker of mediocre printers and scanners? Suddenly has a competitive product and infrastructure to Google Glass?
They're repurposing their old dot matrix printer technology - it brings new meaning to stabbing your eyes with hot pins.