The last time I checked, you couldn't stop a suicide bomber by throwing a copy of Fedora 9 at them.
Give her Fedora 9 cds from the point of release. The versions of KDE 4 and Firefox 3 (beta) they used would blow up long before the suicide bomber could get to you. Clearly you have misunderestimated Fedora 9's[1] stability:-(.
Given the fraction of the code base of a complete system that the kernel is, I'd say US$10.8B if anything is on the low side, if one were to do it again from scratch and pay for the development.
Saying programmer A is more valuable then programmer B because programmer A wrote more lines, is of course stupid.
Agreed.
In my own recent case, programmers A and B would be the same person. I've had negative productivity in my current assignment based on SLOC written, however I've identified and removed thousands of lines of source code no one was using and/or was broken for a year or more without anyone noticing.
One must be very careful in assigning critical value to SLOC produced when in the long term, a successful software project will have much, much more time and money spent on maintenance.
It is like the difference of saying. Democrats want to raise your taxes, is in the Macro true. However saying Oboma, a democrat, wants to raise your taxes isn't necessarily true.
Odd, I thought Obama was in trouble because he wants to raise taxes and "spread the money around". Best to keep politics out of a technical discussion.
One thing I don't understand about you free-software guys, sure Linux is great, but a lot of Microsoft's tactics are why your salary is above other fields (and why some of it went overseas sure), but if everything is free why would anyone pay you a dime?
Real programmers, who truly understand software and systems need never worry about their next paycheck even if all the system software is OSS. There will always be plenty of specialized software floating around that will never be open sourced and will need human support.
If my company were all Linux, I'd be more efficient because of a decent mail system and they could afford to pay me more. As it is, I support internal software on Linux and that works.
I am perfectly happy running proprietary software on my Linux systems. RTFC[1] in XEmacs. I supported the proprietary Wnn6 for the entire time I was "Mr. XEmacs".
People say here, "I must use Microsoft Windows because no games run on Linux." The games makers say they do not make games on Linux because there is no demand. When I post a simple question to illustrate that there is demand, I'm modded redundant? Well w00t! Get those Unix -- MacOS X/Linux games out to us right now!
shooting their mouth all over the place about how the game is an accurate representation of evolution
Considering how much evidence we have for mass extinctions in the past and how much evidence we have now for how often EA games crash, I'd say they're doing a smashing job with respect to accuracy.
As long as you are doing it with your own account and character, theft, bribery, stealing, or whatever else is okay as long as it's in-game.
I would agree with that.
Obviously stealing someone's account or password
It also "obviously" depends on your version of the definition of the word "stealing".
The woman in Japan who got so angry did not "steal" anything. Her virtual "husband" and eventual virtual ex gave her his "keys to the kingdom". She is in jail now and that's a most dangerous precedent to set, in my opinion.
By the time you are ready to call someone your significant other, it should be apparent you can trust them.
You must be new here (and by "here", I mean born yesterday).
To use a popular Slashdot example, and although it excuses nothing, Nina Reiser was embezzling money from Namesys before/mnt/reiserfamily had a disk error and/mnt/reiserfamily/wife was irretrievably lost in a ReiserFS filesystem bug.
Of course, nothing makes one cynical like a troubled marriage and subsequent divorce...
On the other hand, she got the password from her virtual ex, so she got the password legally. If the game's policy forbids password sharing (most do), then her ex is also guilty (and none of them are criminally guilty, just broke the policy of the game).
Yes, but... she got moved across almost the whole country (Miyazaki is on the southern side of Kyushu) and put in jail Sapporo (on the northern island of Hokkaido) where her virtual ex lives. Scaling to US terms, that would be like the difference between Los Angeles, CA and somewhere in southern Maine.
I do not condone what she did, but the punishment just seems all wrong to me.
I think they are saying it is more important from a legal and newsworthiness point of view.
Something like that.
Every one of the examples in the linked articles display lack of judgment on the part of the perpetrator and I would agree that punishment is merited. What I will disagree on is that it merits a criminal record and/or jail.
So I can sue someone that destroys my ship in EVE?
Perhaps, if you're living in the right jurisdiction. But at least we know the true reason why Blizzard does not assign durability damage in PvP - you cannot sue the guy who just ganked you.
No doubt. Do note though that it was not an ex-husband, it was an ex-"husband" as the relationship was only in-game.
All of the articles linked are scary in the implications, but the virtual divorce in Japan one was the scariest to me.
I'm embarrassed that an English spelling and grammar nazi[1] like me has to ask this but, what's the opposite term for uxoricide http://www.thefreedictionary.com/uxoricide ?
[1] Do not pound the shift key, you only need to capitalize the "T" in "The" and "warranted" is spelled "warranted". Always proofread through the Preview text when you are posting.
But even in monopoly I can't just pull out a some US currency when I run out of monopoly money to pay the rent on my turn, nor can I head to Toy-R-Us to pick up a pack of extra monopoly money to fund my Boardwalk purchase.
Bad example. Buying WoW gold is like giving real money to someone in the game in exchange for monopoly money to make your Boardwalk purchase. I'm not sure the rules of Monopoly prohibit that. The rules of WoW prohibit the purchase of in-game assets in that fashion.
Coveting your neighbor's wife is not illegal. However, murder is. Are we not worried that allowing the ninth commandment of the Christian Bible to be broken will lead to allowing the seventh commandment (prohibition on murder) to be broken. It's silly, but conceivable.
It's not silly at all. The automatic suspect in a suspicious murder of a married person is the spouse. In an overwhelming number of cases, that is a correct suspicion (hi Hans!).
I'm not sure where you are trying to go in the rest of your post, but that was probably the worst "slippery" slope counterexample I've ever read. Marital infidelity (real and/or perceived) has caused endless hardship and strife. Marital strife often leads to murder.
If I am ever found dead in suspicious circumstances, immediately have my ex-wife extradited - she had someone do it. She threatened to do that often enough when we were married.
Maybe in free countries. In the US, check the fine print on the "Patriot" Act. I do not believe they have to any more.
US banks "froze" accounts in Iran in the 1970s, and accounts of Japanese immigrants in the 1940s to name two examples. It's not like there is any precedent here.
The same simply isn't true of your bank account. Your bank can't just decide you aren't a customer, and close your account. Transfering your funds to another account, or perhaps even just "deleting" them.
That's not how things work any more and haven't for a long time.
They absolutely can lock your money up away from you. On a recent trip home, when I bought my wife a Macbook, I later got a threatening email message (fortunately I was checking email, I do not usually do so) from my Credit Union saying they were going to immediately suspend my account due to suspicious activity on my account[1]. It took a very expensive international phone call to clear things up.
I'd do banking in the Philippines instead of the US, the banks there are probably every bit as sound if not sounder than banks in the US, but they won't let me.:-(
[1] The idiots did not even bother to check their own records to see the PAL tickets I had purchased a few weeks previous. Nor the fact that that was NOT the first computer I had purchased in Manila on that card. Sigh.
There were several articles linked. Go back and read them, they're all worth the time spent.
The shocker for me was the lady in Japan arrested and jailed for griefing a recently "divorced" (the "marriage" was all in-game) partner in a game which I presume is a Japanese equivalent to Second Life. She logged into his account and I presume, deleted all his stuff. That's ++ungood, but jail and after he gave her his password? WTF?
as McCain was without dispute born in the Panama Canal Zone; the Canal Zone was not at that time (or any other time) part of the United States, though it was a territory controlled by the United States.
He was cleared in court and absolutely no one in the government is going to disqualify a person born outside the US to (at least) one parent who was on active military duty at the time, both parents being US citizens.
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The last time I checked, you couldn't stop a suicide bomber by throwing a copy of Fedora 9 at them.
Give her Fedora 9 cds from the point of release. The versions of KDE 4 and Firefox 3 (beta) they used would blow up long before the suicide bomber could get to you. Clearly you have misunderestimated Fedora 9's[1] stability :-(.
[1] I'm typing this on a Fedora 9 system.
I'm having a hard time following what you're saying. Do you have a car analogy handy?
Microsoft Windows is like a kit car put together by one person inside of a big black building with no windows.
Linux is like the US space shuttle built by zillions of different contractors and assembled by NASA in a big building with windows.
Sorry, that's the closest I can get.
What a ridiculous sum pulled completely out of thin air.
It's not out of the question. Given current software development cost models, the Linux kernel will cost about a billion US$ to redevelop soon http://www.dwheeler.com/essays/linux-kernel-cost.html
Given the fraction of the code base of a complete system that the kernel is, I'd say US$10.8B if anything is on the low side, if one were to do it again from scratch and pay for the development.
A clear difference in productivity.
He had the harder job ...
Saying programmer A is more valuable then programmer B because programmer A wrote more lines, is of course stupid.
Agreed.
In my own recent case, programmers A and B would be the same person. I've had negative productivity in my current assignment based on SLOC written, however I've identified and removed thousands of lines of source code no one was using and/or was broken for a year or more without anyone noticing.
One must be very careful in assigning critical value to SLOC produced when in the long term, a successful software project will have much, much more time and money spent on maintenance.
It is like the difference of saying. Democrats want to raise your taxes, is in the Macro true. However saying Oboma, a democrat, wants to raise your taxes isn't necessarily true.
Odd, I thought Obama was in trouble because he wants to raise taxes and "spread the money around". Best to keep politics out of a technical discussion.
One thing I don't understand about you free-software guys, sure Linux is great, but a lot of Microsoft's tactics are why your salary is above other fields (and why some of it went overseas sure), but if everything is free why would anyone pay you a dime?
Real programmers, who truly understand software and systems need never worry about their next paycheck even if all the system software is OSS. There will always be plenty of specialized software floating around that will never be open sourced and will need human support.
If my company were all Linux, I'd be more efficient because of a decent mail system and they could afford to pay me more. As it is, I support internal software on Linux and that works.
I am perfectly happy running proprietary software on my Linux systems. RTFC[1] in XEmacs. I supported the proprietary Wnn6 for the entire time I was "Mr. XEmacs".
People say here, "I must use Microsoft Windows because no games run on Linux." The games makers say they do not make games on Linux because there is no demand. When I post a simple question to illustrate that there is demand, I'm modded redundant? Well w00t! Get those Unix -- MacOS X/Linux games out to us right now!
[1] Read The Fucking ChangeLogs
shooting their mouth all over the place about how the game is an accurate representation of evolution
Considering how much evidence we have for mass extinctions in the past and how much evidence we have now for how often EA games crash, I'd say they're doing a smashing job with respect to accuracy.
Does it run on Unix?
The only thing sillier is the article itself.
Try googling it and see what you come up with. The results are even sadder.
There are no sources in any .jp domain, and every other reference appears to be a rewrite of the AP news release. Compare http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article5002721.ece for example.
It was NOT reported in the Japan Times and I've usually found that to be a decent news source. And yes, I tried searching there first.
Sigh. True journalism is dead.
As long as you are doing it with your own account and character, theft, bribery, stealing, or whatever else is okay as long as it's in-game.
I would agree with that.
Obviously stealing someone's account or password
It also "obviously" depends on your version of the definition of the word "stealing".
The woman in Japan who got so angry did not "steal" anything. Her virtual "husband" and eventual virtual ex gave her his "keys to the kingdom". She is in jail now and that's a most dangerous precedent to set, in my opinion.
By the time you are ready to call someone your significant other, it should be apparent you can trust them.
You must be new here (and by "here", I mean born yesterday).
To use a popular Slashdot example, and although it excuses nothing, Nina Reiser was embezzling money from Namesys before /mnt/reiserfamily had a disk error and /mnt/reiserfamily/wife was irretrievably lost in a ReiserFS filesystem bug.
Of course, nothing makes one cynical like a troubled marriage and subsequent divorce...
On the other hand, she got the password from her virtual ex, so she got the password legally.
If the game's policy forbids password sharing (most do), then her ex is also guilty (and none of them are criminally guilty, just broke the policy of the game).
Yes, but ... she got moved across almost the whole country (Miyazaki is on the southern side of Kyushu) and put in jail Sapporo (on the northern island of Hokkaido) where her virtual ex lives. Scaling to US terms, that would be like the difference between Los Angeles, CA and somewhere in southern Maine.
I do not condone what she did, but the punishment just seems all wrong to me.
What I will disagree on is that it merits a criminal record and/or jail.
Dang. I meant to write "What I will disagree on is that it merits a criminal record and/or jail for the crimes they are being charged with."
I think they are saying it is more important from a legal and newsworthiness point of view.
Something like that.
Every one of the examples in the linked articles display lack of judgment on the part of the perpetrator and I would agree that punishment is merited. What I will disagree on is that it merits a criminal record and/or jail.
You may be new here, but you're working out just fine. Both of those issues are covered in the linked articles which you did not read.
So I can sue someone that destroys my ship in EVE?
Perhaps, if you're living in the right jurisdiction. But at least we know the true reason why Blizzard does not assign durability damage in PvP - you cannot sue the guy who just ganked you.
THe punishment is warrented in both cases.
No doubt. Do note though that it was not an ex-husband, it was an ex-"husband" as the relationship was only in-game.
All of the articles linked are scary in the implications, but the virtual divorce in Japan one was the scariest to me.
I'm embarrassed that an English spelling and grammar nazi[1] like me has to ask this but, what's the opposite term for uxoricide http://www.thefreedictionary.com/uxoricide ?
[1] Do not pound the shift key, you only need to capitalize the "T" in "The" and "warranted" is spelled "warranted". Always proofread through the Preview text when you are posting.
But even in monopoly I can't just pull out a some US currency when I run out of monopoly money to pay the rent on my turn, nor can I head to Toy-R-Us to pick up a pack of extra monopoly money to fund my Boardwalk purchase.
Bad example. Buying WoW gold is like giving real money to someone in the game in exchange for monopoly money to make your Boardwalk purchase. I'm not sure the rules of Monopoly prohibit that. The rules of WoW prohibit the purchase of in-game assets in that fashion.
Coveting your neighbor's wife is not illegal. However, murder is. Are we not worried that allowing the ninth commandment of the Christian Bible to be broken will lead to allowing the seventh commandment (prohibition on murder) to be broken. It's silly, but conceivable.
It's not silly at all. The automatic suspect in a suspicious murder of a married person is the spouse. In an overwhelming number of cases, that is a correct suspicion (hi Hans!).
I'm not sure where you are trying to go in the rest of your post, but that was probably the worst "slippery" slope counterexample I've ever read. Marital infidelity (real and/or perceived) has caused endless hardship and strife. Marital strife often leads to murder.
If I am ever found dead in suspicious circumstances, immediately have my ex-wife extradited - she had someone do it. She threatened to do that often enough when we were married.
They do have to give you your money back though.
Maybe in free countries. In the US, check the fine print on the "Patriot" Act. I do not believe they have to any more.
US banks "froze" accounts in Iran in the 1970s, and accounts of Japanese immigrants in the 1940s to name two examples. It's not like there is any precedent here.
The same simply isn't true of your bank account. Your bank can't just decide you aren't a customer, and close your account. Transfering your funds to another account, or perhaps even just "deleting" them.
That's not how things work any more and haven't for a long time.
They absolutely can lock your money up away from you. On a recent trip home, when I bought my wife a Macbook, I later got a threatening email message (fortunately I was checking email, I do not usually do so) from my Credit Union saying they were going to immediately suspend my account due to suspicious activity on my account[1]. It took a very expensive international phone call to clear things up.
I'd do banking in the Philippines instead of the US, the banks there are probably every bit as sound if not sounder than banks in the US, but they won't let me. :-(
[1] The idiots did not even bother to check their own records to see the PAL tickets I had purchased a few weeks previous. Nor the fact that that was NOT the first computer I had purchased in Manila on that card. Sigh.
Well, I didn't read the FA
There were several articles linked. Go back and read them, they're all worth the time spent.
The shocker for me was the lady in Japan arrested and jailed for griefing a recently "divorced" (the "marriage" was all in-game) partner in a game which I presume is a Japanese equivalent to Second Life. She logged into his account and I presume, deleted all his stuff. That's ++ungood, but jail and after he gave her his password? WTF?
Yeah.
Note to self: Must apologize and buy many presents for real world wife after ganking her in our last WoW duel and change password immediately.
as McCain was without dispute born in the Panama Canal Zone; the Canal Zone was not at that time (or any other time) part of the United States, though it was a territory controlled by the United States.
He was cleared in court and absolutely no one in the government is going to disqualify a person born outside the US to (at least) one parent who was on active military duty at the time, both parents being US citizens.
Obama is not in a similar situation at all.