I *was* dragged to the chief temple in Shinanomachi. Where I *did* see expensive things a good SGI member purchased and the beehive like drone of the chanting scared the living daylights out of me. I was also dragged to other meetings.
I did know before we were married, and I told her, "I accept your religion for you, but I will never accept it myself." (that was after I googled it and spent some hours reading).
I'm not a Reiser. She committed suicide after divorcing me (my company sent me to Beijing on an emergency trip to get Turbolinux 6.5 ready and she was convinced that it was a standard salaryman sex tour of Taiwan) and I was told through a third party after the fact and I was never told where her grave was (her family hated me and all gaijin) so I could go there to cry and lay flowers on it.
I'm glad you have had happier experiences. I have not and I will always *despise* them.
The LDP are on their way out. They got their butts kicked in the last election and lost the upper house. They haven't been able to sustain a majority of their own in 10 years and have enlisted the help of the Soka Gakkai[1], pardon me I mean the New Komeito Party.
The LDP have had a total monopoly on Japanese politics since WWII. It would be most amusing for this to pass, the to-be-regulated web sites "move" out of Japanese jurisdiction and life goes on as before. Japanese always ignore warning signs[2] when noone is looking, so I wouldn't expect this to amount to much no matter what.
[1] Soka Gakkai and IKEDA Daisuke are to Japan what the Church of Scientology and L. Ron Hubbard are to the US. My source? I was unhappily married to one.
[2] I have a really cool digital photo of the highway bus terminal in Tsukuba. There s a sea of bicycles completely burying a sign in back which reads "no bicycle parking here".
I remember reading that the Soviet Union would go the IP theft route...obtain a computer from another country and totally reverse-engineer it so they could use a similar design. I recall reading something like that too, only it was a bit more blatant. Along the lines that careful examination of a supposedly Soviet made CPU had "Copyright Intel" buried in the guts of it.
You're setup sounds entirely reasonable for a developer. Personally I gave up on virtual desktops back in the Windows 3.1 days, I've had all kinds of strange situations where I've needed a lot of windows simultaneously visible. In the late 80's when I was coding the core of a networked application I had to work at a critical time (a few weeks prior to a personal review by the highest ranking General in the US Army at the time) sans my Sun Workstation and used GNU Emacs as a windowing environment on an 80x24 terminal so I could follow the trace output from the various networked processes.
I just happen to find it easier to set up a desktop with three or more windows dedicated to some activity and keep switching to different ones when different situations arise.
My editor windows all show as the window/frame label the host I'm logged into and the userid. My terminal windows show the window label as the host and current directory and as I use zsh, the $RPS1 shows the host, userid and exit status of the last command I executed and the wonderful command hook lets me keep everything up-to-date no matter whether I ssh/telnet or cd somewhere else. This happens to interact wonderfully with how KDE displays stuff in the summary bar.
I developed all that over years of experience. I don't think any job that I've had in the last 20 years or so has required anything less than being logged into several machines simultaneously. One required being logged into dozens of computers under different userids each day and that's where I did most of the shell stuff to keep from becoming completely confused and typing who am i; pwd; hostname all day.
but I keep plenty of applications open on my current 1GB main work beast as well. I don't think Linux is the only OS that could load what you have loaded I didn't say that it was. My environment also works on CDE, but not as well because CDE is kind of stupid and when I use the Solaris Workstation on my desk, my login directory is NFS mounted and that's rather a pain. Herein lies a lesson that Sun never learned from Microsoft. Having copies of your basic system files local, rather than fetched via network over NFS or the equivalent will always lose. I only need critical dotfiles like.emacs,.z*, etc. propagated over a network. Everything else is pretty much O.K. to have on only one machine.
I'm glad for you that you gave up on virtual desktops in the Microsoft Windows 3.1 days, whenever those were, I can't live without them and to each his or her own. Just curious, but I thought virtual desktops weren't supported under Microsoft Winodws. At least when I was in Microsoft Windows XP appreciation "class" I never found a way to enable them. The answer only matters in a theoretical sense. The Microsoft Windows 2k desktop box they gave me at work (used only as a footrest) was upgraded to RHEL 5 last summer and was described in the previous message and the Lenovo T60 Microsoft Windows XP notebook was also upgraded to RHEL at the same time.
Well, in my experience novices tend to have a grand total of one program open at once, and if you try to leave a second one open they will close it, sometimes even when you have carefully minimized it. Many developers are this way as well -- wanting to squeeze an extra 50msec out of that recompile. Oh, and that one program is almost for sure 99% most likely you-can-bet maximized. That's probably the case with novices. I'm surprised that developers would do something similar.
I'm a developer and I currently have 28 open windows on my desktop in 8 virtual desktops. 10 of them are Eterms, some of which have ssh sessions to other machines on the local net. I have two Firefox windows (for viewing certain internal corporate webpages) one instance local and one running on another machine. One copy of Opera with 3 windows of its own (that I'm posting from now), one copy of FSF Emacs running on another machine in the network, 8 XEmacs windows, 5 of which are unique instances, 1 Konsole, 1 plain vanilla xterm, and 1 copy of Evolution (for reading corporate email). If I left something out, well my desktop is kind of um, cluttered.
I logged in 45 days ago, the system has an uptime of 83 days (I don't have a UPS in my cube), I have only 1GB of memory and I'm slightly over 1GB into swap. Everything runs with acceptable performance except the Firefox running over the network on a Solaris workstation. Oh and this all with the older, piggier and slower KDE 3 *and* this is an "old" HP workstation that isn't likely to be "Vista Capable".
Do you see how someone like me just isn't interested in Vista or indeed any version of Microsoft Windows? I've been able to work like this on Linux since the stable 2.0 kernel was released 12 years ago and then I had a bit less core memory. I've been working with lots of windows open on Unix for over 20 years (scaling up the number of windows as core memory has increased).
By the way, the environment you describe: one application at a time full-screened with maybe another 1 or 2 in the background is exactly how the AT&T Unix PC worked... 25 years ago. Actually, it was a Microsoft Vista of its own. By default it shipped with a noisy slow hard drive and a ridiculous amount of ram, either 256k or 512k. It wasn't until you could buy larger, faster drives and expand the memory up to 4MB (I ended up 3.5MB) near the end of its life that it became a wonderful machine.
You guys are modding this funny, but it's insightful. Cars do indeed promote certain kinds of crime that would be impossible otherwise. Drive by shootings certainly exist only with private cars. Do you think someone could do that out of the back of a taxi, or from the window of a bus?
You can accidentally or intentionally kill someone with a car by running them over. You can use a car as an escape device in an armed robbery or a murder or something like that.
Yes, the car analogy is a good one and illustrates how ridiculous this ex-FBI guy really is.
Proprietary emacsen have died on the vine. The Gosling split (which was really the driving force behind RMS inventing the GPL) - Unipress Emacs never did well. When DEC tried to reinvent Emacs with EDIT/TPU they did a passable job (it was a fantastic editing environment for VMS), but it was so tied to the system that it could never make itself free.
I am certainly not wedded to the command line in and of itself (though zsh is a tool I cannot live without), but I wouldn't be tempted even if they duplicate the Unix open architecture of interchangeable parts. I'm a Linux developer and user because I got extremely pissed off by having my system (the AT&T PC7300 aka the Unix PC) end-of-lifed on me and I never want that to happen again. Never. Those of you who love Microsoft Windows XP, take note. Maybe instead of complaining to Microsoft, you should join up with the ReactOS guys and keep the environment you love so much.
That's an order of magnitude less than 2**63 seconds and so it is wonderful news! Once 64 bit time becomes the norm, we'll have solved the Y2038 problem and indeed time itself forever...
Yeah, like is TECO or EDT the better editor? Or FORTRAN versus PL/I as the better language? Or should CPUs have built-in support for stacks or not? Or can any machine-compiled language be as efficient as hand-coded assembly? Ah, the days when men were men and coded and debugged programs through front panel switches.
I was taught this in high school in the 1970s. I got it in outside reading, my high school apparently wasn't as sophisticated as yours (California schools suck and the more money we seem to spend on them, the more they suck - by the time I graduated in 1980 the (new) physics teacher was asking me for help sometimes). My first thought was "When did they think this wasn't going to happen?"
Actually, I think the moon is more likely to destroy all life on earth long before the sun goes nova and/or red giant. Because of tidal forces, the moon will gradually get farther from the earth and the earth's rotation will slow to conserve centrifugal force. As the earth's rotation slows the days get longer and hotter and the nights get longer and colder to a point where this won't be a very happy home any more.
Heck, 7.6 billion years is ok by me I don't know. It'll probably happen a few months before Duke Nukem Forever is released. Dang, I was wishing I could play that game.
Thanks for the explanation.
And shame on kdawson for posting such a sensationalist FUD piece Ugh. Shame on me. I should have checked who posted this before I wrote anything.
I didn't read the article, but I read the patent and honestly I am amazed. Dominos Pizza has advertised 30 minutes or less or your order is free or something like that for many many years and they appear to fill all the requirements described in the patent.
I've defended some of the so-called stupid patents posted here and this time I am indeed mystified. Will a lawyer type please explain what doesn't make Dominos Pizza trivial prior art?
Hell, much of the overseas market would jump on a Google OS in a heartbeat: Microsoft is not well-liked in many parts of the world. Maybe that's in Europe and I'd love to believe you but... In Japan, Microsoft is pretty much a given even though certain Japanese companies have contributed strongly towards Linux. In the Philippines, Microsoft would be hated because a single license costs more than most people (who are working, the unemployment rate is very high) make in a month but it's tolerated by internet cafe owners who need to peddle computer games and the fact the internet cafe owners can pirate it since they usually can't afford the licenses either.
Microsoft got around the China problem by offering licenses for the equivalent of US$5. Well, they're not going to sell many license at their usual rate (unlike the Philippines, I do not know exactly what Microsoft used to be charging for licenses in China) when it's higher than the average yearly income in China. And that's dumping. Turbolinux when I worked there could not afford to put together a totally Free Turbolinux in China for under US$10 - I think we hit the equivalent of US$12 for Turbolinux 6.5. And oh man, did we work hard to get the cost down that far. Chinese has 3 common coding systems, different sets of characters and insane technical problems. Of course, Red Flag probably brought any sales of non-Chinese distros in China to zero.
Korea is locked into Microsoft due to governmental use of ActiveX that everyone has to use.
At any rate, from what I've seen, Yahoo! has better visibility in Asia than Google and a Google OS if it doesn't play off-the-shelf games that children want to play won't exactly fly there.
people even criticize KDE for being too Windows-like KDE without a doubt has the most horrible defaults of any computer software I have ever used. Beyond horrible actually, it compares to the horrible pain I felt when I had to use GNOME or Microsoft Windows XP. Its redeeming feature is that with a few minutes of customization that they make very easy, it's the best windowing environment I've ever used.
I know some of that has to be politics. I tried to change the defaults of XEmacs that I hated the most and well, I got a lot of rotten fruit and other unmentionable things sent my way.
I also do not know what these guys who are suing are thinking of. Even the Microsoft fanbois who post here admit that initial releases are always buggier and slower than previous ones and the wise wait until SP2 to "upgrade".
They don't. Developers who (try to) break ABIs get handed their heads on a platter by Linus. Internal kernel stuff is different, but userland Shall Not Be Broken is the prime directive and the kernel-userland interface standards followed aren't written by us.
You totally miss the point, as did the Microsoft middle managers who signed off on this. Running any code coming from a wire is unwise in the extreme. Running it without user intervention is worse.
ActiveX could work fine in a totally trusted environment, like inside an isolated company network. On the Internet it's Just Plain Stupid. It was accepted knowledge decades ago that one should just not run executable anythings (scripts or binaries) coming in over a wire.
Microsoft chose to ignore the past. There's nothing "buggy" about ActiveX. It's Just Plain Stupid and the model it uses has been known to be insecure and stupid for decades. Everything I wrote about ActiveX goes about Javascript as well. Javascript may be slightly safer, but not by much.
We had the problem fixed! Unshar was created and accepted and shar scripts became obsolete and then along came Microsoft and popularized the problem with the world. Sigh.
For this to work, somebody has to be able to steal my laptop You didn't even bother to read the summary, let alone the article. The main point is that nothing is secure with physical access to the machine. That's kind of always been the point. Restated, if an attacker is sufficiently interested in the data on your machine, he will be able to take it from your cold dead hands and get it.
I feel secure. So no, you shouldn't feel secure if you have important data on that machine.
BTW, since you claim to be using (presumably US) government security software, you know that disk formatting or dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/whatever is not sufficient to unclassify a disk that formerly contained classified material.
a LOT of people look pretty addicted to electricity and indoor plumbing. This is modded funny, but it's not really funny, it's insightful. Most of the world's people live without one or the other or both. I've lived (very recently) in places with some electricity, but not always and no indoor plumbing and count me as one of the addicts.
When Linux is INTEGRATED and works RIGHT, NOW, as in OUT-OF-THE-FUCKING-BOX, then I'll use it again. If it has the software I need to GET WORK DONE : Adobe Suite and MS Office. Well, it does. We've hashed this over dozens of times. The only O/S (including specific versions of Microsoft Windows) guaranteed to work on any given computer is the one it was bundled with.
The true value of Linux (and any Open Source O/S) is that it can never be end-of-lifed on you. You guys who love Microsoft Windows XP, face it, it's been declared a dead matter and in time it will be taken away from you.
I'll always have Linux, even if I have to write the drivers myself, but hey, I can! I have all the source code. I'm typing this on a MacBook Pro that I bought for my wife and I don't kid myself, Apple can take it away any time they choose.
This is different from a company like Microsoft, that creates and sells other products A curious example. Microsoft is currently trying to get a "standard" adopted with submarine patents and they've never invented anything past a BASIC interpreter, prefering to buy the technology and adapt it. If their Windows monopoly ever (seems to) fails, they are prime candidates for becoming patent trolls.
A better example is Ford, though they have fallen on hard times of late.
Point out the failure of the Xbox to turn a buck if you will, Maybe it didn't, but you are right - it was huge strategic victory. More than ever, console games and Microsoft Windows are linked. The last time I went to a GameStop I asked for games playable on Macintosh. The salesman immediately said there weren't any. I pointed behind him at the display case with World of Warcraft and told him he was wrong and he said he didn't know it could be played on Macintosh.
Go Blizzard! They not only run on Macintosh, they run on Linux with Wine too.
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I *was* dragged to the chief temple in Shinanomachi. Where I *did* see expensive things a good SGI member purchased and the beehive like drone of the chanting scared the living daylights out of me. I was also dragged to other meetings.
I did know before we were married, and I told her, "I accept your religion for you, but I will never accept it myself." (that was after I googled it and spent some hours reading).
I'm not a Reiser. She committed suicide after divorcing me (my company sent me to Beijing on an emergency trip to get Turbolinux 6.5 ready and she was convinced that it was a standard salaryman sex tour of Taiwan) and I was told through a third party after the fact and I was never told where her grave was (her family hated me and all gaijin) so I could go there to cry and lay flowers on it.
I'm glad you have had happier experiences. I have not and I will always *despise* them.
No, my late ex-wife was a Soka Gakkai and she tried to teach me all kinds of stuff I didn't want to know. Made me read all their propaganda, etc. etc.
The TSA insists on going through my dirty laundry every time I enter the US. Turn about is fair play!
I'm going to turn in my low 5 digit id, be daring and read through that email. After all, it's not the first time it's been posted here.
The LDP are on their way out. They got their butts kicked in the last election and lost the upper house. They haven't been able to sustain a majority of their own in 10 years and have enlisted the help of the Soka Gakkai[1], pardon me I mean the New Komeito Party.
The LDP have had a total monopoly on Japanese politics since WWII. It would be most amusing for this to pass, the to-be-regulated web sites "move" out of Japanese jurisdiction and life goes on as before. Japanese always ignore warning signs[2] when noone is looking, so I wouldn't expect this to amount to much no matter what.
[1] Soka Gakkai and IKEDA Daisuke are to Japan what the Church of Scientology and L. Ron Hubbard are to the US. My source? I was unhappily married to one.
[2] I have a really cool digital photo of the highway bus terminal in Tsukuba. There
s a sea of bicycles completely burying a sign in back which reads "no bicycle parking here".
This isn't what I originally read, but here's a reference: http://www.cpushack.net/soviet-cpus.html
I just happen to find it easier to set up a desktop with three or more windows dedicated to some activity and keep switching to different ones when different situations arise.
My editor windows all show as the window/frame label the host I'm logged into and the userid. My terminal windows show the window label as the host and current directory and as I use zsh, the $RPS1 shows the host, userid and exit status of the last command I executed and the wonderful command hook lets me keep everything up-to-date no matter whether I ssh/telnet or cd somewhere else. This happens to interact wonderfully with how KDE displays stuff in the summary bar.
I developed all that over years of experience. I don't think any job that I've had in the last 20 years or so has required anything less than being logged into several machines simultaneously. One required being logged into dozens of computers under different userids each day and that's where I did most of the shell stuff to keep from becoming completely confused and typing who am i; pwd; hostname all day. but I keep plenty of applications open on my current 1GB main work beast as well. I don't think Linux is the only OS that could load what you have loaded I didn't say that it was. My environment also works on CDE, but not as well because CDE is kind of stupid and when I use the Solaris Workstation on my desk, my login directory is NFS mounted and that's rather a pain. Herein lies a lesson that Sun never learned from Microsoft. Having copies of your basic system files local, rather than fetched via network over NFS or the equivalent will always lose. I only need critical dotfiles like
I'm glad for you that you gave up on virtual desktops in the Microsoft Windows 3.1 days, whenever those were, I can't live without them and to each his or her own. Just curious, but I thought virtual desktops weren't supported under Microsoft Winodws. At least when I was in Microsoft Windows XP appreciation "class" I never found a way to enable them. The answer only matters in a theoretical sense. The Microsoft Windows 2k desktop box they gave me at work (used only as a footrest) was upgraded to RHEL 5 last summer and was described in the previous message and the Lenovo T60 Microsoft Windows XP notebook was also upgraded to RHEL at the same time.
I'm a developer and I currently have 28 open windows on my desktop in 8 virtual desktops. 10 of them are Eterms, some of which have ssh sessions to other machines on the local net. I have two Firefox windows (for viewing certain internal corporate webpages) one instance local and one running on another machine. One copy of Opera with 3 windows of its own (that I'm posting from now), one copy of FSF Emacs running on another machine in the network, 8 XEmacs windows, 5 of which are unique instances, 1 Konsole, 1 plain vanilla xterm, and 1 copy of Evolution (for reading corporate email). If I left something out, well my desktop is kind of um, cluttered.
I logged in 45 days ago, the system has an uptime of 83 days (I don't have a UPS in my cube), I have only 1GB of memory and I'm slightly over 1GB into swap. Everything runs with acceptable performance except the Firefox running over the network on a Solaris workstation. Oh and this all with the older, piggier and slower KDE 3 *and* this is an "old" HP workstation that isn't likely to be "Vista Capable".
Do you see how someone like me just isn't interested in Vista or indeed any version of Microsoft Windows? I've been able to work like this on Linux since the stable 2.0 kernel was released 12 years ago and then I had a bit less core memory. I've been working with lots of windows open on Unix for over 20 years (scaling up the number of windows as core memory has increased).
By the way, the environment you describe: one application at a time full-screened with maybe another 1 or 2 in the background is exactly how the AT&T Unix PC worked
You guys are modding this funny, but it's insightful. Cars do indeed promote certain kinds of crime that would be impossible otherwise. Drive by shootings certainly exist only with private cars. Do you think someone could do that out of the back of a taxi, or from the window of a bus?
You can accidentally or intentionally kill someone with a car by running them over. You can use a car as an escape device in an armed robbery or a murder or something like that.
Yes, the car analogy is a good one and illustrates how ridiculous this ex-FBI guy really is.
Proprietary emacsen have died on the vine. The Gosling split (which was really the driving force behind RMS inventing the GPL) - Unipress Emacs never did well. When DEC tried to reinvent Emacs with EDIT/TPU they did a passable job (it was a fantastic editing environment for VMS), but it was so tied to the system that it could never make itself free.
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I am certainly not wedded to the command line in and of itself (though zsh is a tool I cannot live without), but I wouldn't be tempted even if they duplicate the Unix open architecture of interchangeable parts. I'm a Linux developer and user because I got extremely pissed off by having my system (the AT&T PC7300 aka the Unix PC) end-of-lifed on me and I never want that to happen again. Never. Those of you who love Microsoft Windows XP, take note. Maybe instead of complaining to Microsoft, you should join up with the ReactOS guys and keep the environment you love so much.
It worked for us
That's an order of magnitude less than 2**63 seconds and so it is wonderful news! Once 64 bit time becomes the norm, we'll have solved the Y2038 problem and indeed time itself forever ...
Yeah, like is TECO or EDT the better editor? Or FORTRAN versus PL/I as the better language? Or should CPUs have built-in support for stacks or not? Or can any machine-compiled language be as efficient as hand-coded assembly? Ah, the days when men were men and coded and debugged programs through front panel switches.
Actually, I think the moon is more likely to destroy all life on earth long before the sun goes nova and/or red giant. Because of tidal forces, the moon will gradually get farther from the earth and the earth's rotation will slow to conserve centrifugal force. As the earth's rotation slows the days get longer and hotter and the nights get longer and colder to a point where this won't be a very happy home any more.
I didn't read the article, but I read the patent and honestly I am amazed. Dominos Pizza has advertised 30 minutes or less or your order is free or something like that for many many years and they appear to fill all the requirements described in the patent.
I've defended some of the so-called stupid patents posted here and this time I am indeed mystified. Will a lawyer type please explain what doesn't make Dominos Pizza trivial prior art?
Microsoft got around the China problem by offering licenses for the equivalent of US$5. Well, they're not going to sell many license at their usual rate (unlike the Philippines, I do not know exactly what Microsoft used to be charging for licenses in China) when it's higher than the average yearly income in China. And that's dumping. Turbolinux when I worked there could not afford to put together a totally Free Turbolinux in China for under US$10 - I think we hit the equivalent of US$12 for Turbolinux 6.5. And oh man, did we work hard to get the cost down that far. Chinese has 3 common coding systems, different sets of characters and insane technical problems. Of course, Red Flag probably brought any sales of non-Chinese distros in China to zero.
Korea is locked into Microsoft due to governmental use of ActiveX that everyone has to use.
At any rate, from what I've seen, Yahoo! has better visibility in Asia than Google and a Google OS if it doesn't play off-the-shelf games that children want to play won't exactly fly there.
I know some of that has to be politics. I tried to change the defaults of XEmacs that I hated the most and well, I got a lot of rotten fruit and other unmentionable things sent my way.
I also do not know what these guys who are suing are thinking of. Even the Microsoft fanbois who post here admit that initial releases are always buggier and slower than previous ones and the wise wait until SP2 to "upgrade".
They don't. Developers who (try to) break ABIs get handed their heads on a platter by Linus. Internal kernel stuff is different, but userland Shall Not Be Broken is the prime directive and the kernel-userland interface standards followed aren't written by us.
Hmmph. +5 insightful? You are an astroturfer.
You totally miss the point, as did the Microsoft middle managers who signed off on this. Running any code coming from a wire is unwise in the extreme. Running it without user intervention is worse.
ActiveX could work fine in a totally trusted environment, like inside an isolated company network. On the Internet it's Just Plain Stupid. It was accepted knowledge decades ago that one should just not run executable anythings (scripts or binaries) coming in over a wire.
Microsoft chose to ignore the past. There's nothing "buggy" about ActiveX. It's Just Plain Stupid and the model it uses has been known to be insecure and stupid for decades. Everything I wrote about ActiveX goes about Javascript as well. Javascript may be slightly safer, but not by much.
We had the problem fixed! Unshar was created and accepted and shar scripts became obsolete and then along came Microsoft and popularized the problem with the world. Sigh.
BTW, since you claim to be using (presumably US) government security software, you know that disk formatting or dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/whatever is not sufficient to unclassify a disk that formerly contained classified material.
The true value of Linux (and any Open Source O/S) is that it can never be end-of-lifed on you. You guys who love Microsoft Windows XP, face it, it's been declared a dead matter and in time it will be taken away from you.
I'll always have Linux, even if I have to write the drivers myself, but hey, I can! I have all the source code. I'm typing this on a MacBook Pro that I bought for my wife and I don't kid myself, Apple can take it away any time they choose.
A better example is Ford, though they have fallen on hard times of late.
Go Blizzard! They not only run on Macintosh, they run on Linux with Wine too.